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I've heard that magnetic fields can influence the semiconductors' operations and electricity as a whole. What do you think, can cases with magnetic closures harm phones?
No, there is negligible if any effect on phones. If that was the case, why would RIM provide magnetic cases for their own devices? There is no magnetic media and all of the solid state components will be unharmed by normal magnetism.
They will not harm the phone, but as some of them contain quite powerful magnets, I would keep the phone well away from your credit cards when it's in its case. That's if you have to rely on the magnetic strip at ATM machines or point of sale terminals.
Magnetic fields does not affect the operation of your device. (Always referred to normal magnets not super strong ones capable to mechanically damage the components). At the other hand static electricity may affect the flash memory ("rom") of your device. I had this problem several years ago with my m515 Palm. I was storing it in my car, under the driver seat. I was lucky it hasn't permanently damaged.
About the static electricity - can a case with microfiber inner lining damage the phone, because the microfiber acumulates static electricity?
And watch out for gremlins and leprechauns and the boogey-man. Seriously, you are a little too paranoid. Phones are just like any other electronic device. Handle with care and keep away from liquids and don't drop it.
The probability that you will accumulate static electricity, and that you will discharge it into the phone, and that it will pass through the battery cover, jump the lining to the metal pieces, and then jump over the plastic inner shell to the internal electronics is EXTREMELY small. Besides if you have a cloth case it won't build up static electricity anyway unless you continuously pull it in and out of the case (like 20+ times per minute).
The potential for damage comes from handled exposed electronic parts while being ungrounded, and the only way you should experience that is if you open up the housing of your phone, which for you I would say you should not attempt since it is only for more experienced users.
i've never had any issues with magnetic cases. in fact, thats the only thing i use.
I like to clean my Note but don't know if the ingredient in it will eventually damage the quality of the glass or screen.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lys...=X&ei=ZhprVMePBuSQigLHroCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#
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I like to clean my Note but don't know if the ingredient in it will eventually damage the quality of the glass or screen.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lys...=X&ei=ZhprVMePBuSQigLHroCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#
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I wouldn't worry bout it, but why don't you simply use a glass cleaner or those wipes for reading glasses
Coz they don't have antibac. Mobile phones carry e.coli or fecal matter. Just using the handrails, pushing elevator doors, shaking hands, holding cream mugs at Starbucks, it's our poor phones that had to collect all that virus
I have a film type screen protector and a new UAG case on mine.
To wipe off screen I just use a microfibre cloth and some rubbing alcohol which is 70% isopropyl alcohol and 30% water.
Works great , no reside, no damage and its cheap. I use it on my glasses too.
Will kill bacteria just as well as the alcohol handwash gel you can buy which is basically the same 70% alcohol..
Hope that helps.
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Coz they don't have antibac. Mobile phones carry e.coli or fecal matter. Just using the handrails, pushing elevator doors, shaking hands, holding cream mugs at Starbucks, it's our poor phones that had to collect all that virus
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Alcohol is the prime ingredient in screen cleaners and is also a great anti-bacterial agent.
If you are worried about stuff it can't kill... wear gloves or a Haz-Mat suit.
You should absolutely under no account EVER clean ANY display screens with normal household cleaners. Harsh chemicals like ammonia, bleach, or for that matter even alcohol can severely damage the coatings on electronics displays, causing them to become foggy, cloudy, and scratched. I'm not all that familiar with the active ingredient in Lysol (benzalkonium chloride), but I personally wouldn't let it anywhere near my phone. There are countless cleaning sprays and wipes on the market that are formulated specifically for electronics displays, and I wouldn't use anything to clean any of mine unless it stated explicitly that it is made for displays. Even most eyeglass lens cleaners contain alcohol, so be very careful to read the ingredients and intended use! This goes not just for phones, but for computer monitors, televisions, laptops, basically any and all electronic displays.
If you're really worried about bacteria and want a disinfectant, there do exist several options that ARE made for displays, such as this:
http://www.monsterproducts.com/Monster_CleanTouch_for_iPad_iPhone_and_iPod?pin=5930
A little googling will turn up many more as well.
This guy....
Bacteria and fecal matter. Lol. Must be hard being OCD/germ phobic.
I'm all for being hygienic, but I don't see this as a real issue. I've never gotten sick from touching my own phone.
Back on topic, the screens do have a coating. So harsh chemicals could remove that making it less oleophobic.
And in rare circumstances you CAN cloud some screens, but that is mainly on plastic not glass.
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I like to clean my Note but don't know if the ingredient in it will eventually damage the quality of the glass or screen.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lys...=X&ei=ZhprVMePBuSQigLHroCAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#
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Unfortunately, cant say for sure but I routinely use cavi-wipes and chlorox wipes on my phones (I am not just OCD, but work in a hospital...)
I do usually have a screen protector on my phone (cheapo tempered glass on the note right now)
I use these same wipes and have done it for years with no issue on the original gorilla glass that I had on the Sprint Galaxy Epic. I don't use them frequently but more as needed. Had the same phone for three years and the only screen damage I had was from dropping the phone without a case; the glass had some minor scratches.
OT; all the criticism of OLED screens burning out, failed pixels or burn-in never happened that I could tell. Aside from sunlight visibility and the scratches that only seemed visible when oil or debris got in them, the screen was pristine the day I traded it for the Note 4. I expect more from this screen in the next two years.
I've read that screen protectors defeat some of the advantages of OLED with increased density of view. Some of OLED's advantages are wrought by bringing images nearer to the surface than LCD screens, if I understood that well enough. Hence, for me, the case with raised bezel lip should provide adequate drop protection unless throwing phone to prove its ruggedness with case and screen protector or dropping it from a moving vehicle. I don't recommend trying either. Thankfully, I've only needed drop protection for trying to carry too many loose items at once or being butter fingers and try to catch a dropped phone only to increase its velocity or drag it on pavement trying to scoop it on a bounce. It happens occasionally; I've been fortunate but will keep it in a case.
For a Lysol wipe's disinfectant properties to work the surface has to be kept wet with the wipe's moisture for I think 60 seconds (may be longer). The instructions will be on the packaging. If you just wipe the phone there are no disinfectant properties using the Lysol wipe.
You have to be extremely careful with some of these cleaning wipes. I use to work on medical equipment and some of the devices that came back to the repair center had there housings weakened by various disinfecting agents.
For example many of these cleaning products have dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride which in small doses is fine but in larger concentrations it's not good.
I would find something labeled for electronic devices that is safe for plastics and metal. Don't assume that these products are safe for everything. Worst case call the company and ask.
http://www.saniscreenwipes.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Wipes-Cell-Phone-Peppermint/dp/B003CJWIG0
http://www.amazon.com/Advantus-Right-PhoneKleen-Cleaning-REARR1303/dp/B000FNCYW4 (Noticed how this one has dimethyl benzyl ammonium chloride)
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Coz they don't have antibac. Mobile phones carry e.coli or fecal matter. Just using the handrails, pushing elevator doors, shaking hands, holding cream mugs at Starbucks, it's our poor phones that had to collect all that virus
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Your immune system will take care of all that. And it's just as well, because it needs the exercise to stay fit! You won't get sick from touching your phone, if that were possible, we'd all be dead by now.
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The easy solution should be the back cover in plastic. But chinese makers are not making this. No idea why not. So we have to find solution our selves. Do you have a 3d printer? Or are you expert at doing craft projects? Can you make plastic back covers for those of us who want one?
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(anybody who wants to know - I made a cover with a plastic $1 folder. The plastic is soft but its tough stuff. Not easily punctured. Phone feels great on the hand and it feels slimmer. I still have to add some modifications to make it sturdier and make sure that it can withstand a fall without damaging the battery. No idea how to do that. I'll figure it out. The plastic works fine as a shock absorber but if something were to hit the battery area directly then that might transfer some force on the battery. So I'll have to find some way to make that area of the cover slightly more rigid. or place a shock absorbent material directly on top of the battery. Gotta find the right material that doesn't insulate the heat in.)
I'd buy a 3d printed plastic back cover if anyone made it available.
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I'd buy a 3d printed plastic back cover if anyone made it available.
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replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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They are $10. But we don't want the glass back. :S I can put a vinyl wrap on it and manage the slippery surface. But I also know how ridiculously fragile it is. It also shatters and you get glass particles everywhere. So its not usable. I have thought about reinforcing the glass back with some sort of specialized tape like gorilla tape or glass filament tape or tent repair tape. You could use it that way. The glass would still be fragile. It'll crack under the circumstances it would have cracked otherwise. Basically the glass is very low quality. Motorola is likely lying if they say its some sort gorilla glass or something.
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They are $10. But we don't want the glass back. :S I can put a vinyl wrap on it and manage the slippery surface. But I also know how ridiculously fragile it is. It also shatters and you get glass particles everywhere. So its not usable. I have thought about reinforcing the glass back with some sort of specialized tape like gorilla tape or glass filament tape or tent repair tape. You could use it that way. The glass would still be fragile. It'll crack under the circumstances it would have cracked otherwise. Basically the glass is very low quality. Motorola is likely lying if they say its some sort gorilla glass or something.
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I don't know what you mean by "we" don't want the glass back. I like the glass back. I think it looks good and provides a good surface with which to grip the phone.
Dadud said:
replacement glass backs are like 10$, its probably going to cost more to get something designed and printed if you dont have the skills yourself.
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Yeah, I would expect custom 3d print to cost more than the mass produced Chinese replacements.
It's worth it. Glass backs are insane imo. It pushes design over function much too far. I don't need to show off with a my phone. Rather have a phone that isn't so fragile.
case? seems to keep mine in one piece lol
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I don't know what you mean by "we" don't want the glass back. I like the glass back. I think it looks good and provides a good surface with which to grip the phone.
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You know there are owners of this phone who don't like the glass back.
Also, there is a heat factor with the glass back. I removed the glass and using a poorly made plastic cover right now and heat dropped by like 10 degrees. lol. It charges with normal charger at below 30c. With turbo charger it goes up to around 35c. Phone running for hours streaming hulu or something at max may be 37c. What's the temp like with the glass back on? 45c+?
buschris said:
case? seems to keep mine in one piece lol
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True. But don't use a case a lot of the times.
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You know there are owners of this phone who don't like the glass back.
Also, there is a heat factor with the glass back. I removed the glass and using a poorly made plastic cover right now and heat dropped by like 10 degrees. lol. It charges with normal charger at below 30c. With turbo charger it goes up to around 35c. Phone running for hours streaming hulu or something at max may be 37c. What's the temp like with the glass back on? 45c+?
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But one man does not an entire consumer base make.
As for the temperatures, right now I'm at 28c with glass back and a case. Temperatures have never quite been a worry for me.
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But one man does not an entire consumer base make.
As for the temperatures, right now I'm at 28c with glass back and a case. Temperatures have never quite been a worry for me.
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I guess you are saying not enough people demand it so its not a category of product yet.
Temp would be around 5-10c less than glass back the way I have it set up. One of the beneficial aspect I have seen is phone cools down much quicker. It'll have an effect on longevity of the phone but its really not that big of an issue anyway with the higher temps on a glass back. I think the most important factor is the satisfaction of not having that dumb fragile glass back.
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I guess you are saying not enough people demand it so its not a category of product yet.
Temp would be around 5-10c less than glass back the way I have it set up. One of the beneficial aspect I have seen is phone cools down much quicker. It'll have an effect on longevity of the phone but its really not that big of an issue anyway with the higher temps on a glass back. I think the most important factor is the satisfaction of not having that dumb fragile glass back.
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To each their own, apparently.
If you're treating your phone respectfully, then the glass back should not be an issue. It is, after all, gorilla-glass, not just ordinary window-glass. If you're treating your phone roughly, then get a case or buy a different non-glass phone.
Right now glass and ceramic is en vogue in phone design. (see the top-end S10+ with its custom ceramic backplate) Particularly because it enables wireless charging without a buildup of static electricity. In a year or two they'll probably be on to a new trend, maybe leather as foldable phones start to mature. I actually miss those leather-backed phones that were around about 5 odd years ago.
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If you're treating your phone respectfully, then the glass back should not be an issue. It is, after all, gorilla-glass, not just ordinary window-glass. If you're treating your phone roughly, then get a case or buy a different non-glass phone.
Right now glass and ceramic is en vogue in phone design. (see the top-end S10+ with its custom ceramic backplate) Particularly because it enables wireless charging without a buildup of static electricity. In a year or two they'll probably be on to a new trend, maybe leather as foldable phones start to mature. I actually miss those leather-backed phones that were around about 5 odd years ago.
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You are right. But I'm not looking for top end glass back on my g6. :S TBH even on s10 I would probably want to switch out the glass back. It seems absurd to me that I'm carrying around something so fragile. I would predict if there is a new trend, it'll be some sort of durable material like plastic. When people hear plastic, they think its cheap and reduces the vibe of the device. But there are different types of plastic. Phone companies could do fancy and functional phone body and back covers easily. I have no idea why they don't. They could use tough rubbery material for the body too where you largely won't need a case. But they don't. Some aspects of design isn't evolving at all with phones.
Mine shattered after fall from stairs, but I won't expect any phone to survive this with no damage taken.
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Mine shattered after fall from stairs, but I won't expect any phone to survive this with no damage taken.
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That's true. But a back cover made of any other material wouldn't shatter.
It was probably only a matter of time before the structural weakness of the ROG5 started showing in accidents and broken devices. My device is officially broken from damage around the mid section between the 2 batteries and the side USB/cooler port and antenna soft spot - exactly as highlighted on some videos. As a result, connectivity goes on and off and reception is extremely weak.
To be clear, the device has not been bent violently, dropped, smashed or anyhting like that, there are no physical bends visible other than I noticed one corner of the glass back plate looks a tiny tiny bit detached from the body of the phone. I'm guessing the device might have been bent just enough while in a pocket to damage it. No broken glass plates.
Up to you if go for this device but everyone should be aware of this. The device is with ASUS, if they don't fix it under the warranty and the price for fixing it isn't on the low side, I'll take the loss and switch to another brand.
If you're absolutely going for ASUS, the ROG 3 might be a much better choice - It's better built, has better tempretures/battery life, does custom reccovery like TWRP without pain, probably cheaper now and I bet it performs exactly as well as ROG 5 for 99.5% of games/apps during the remaining lifetime of both devices.
I have feeling the ROG 5 is the device ASUS will regret... It's basically an overheated, inefficient,badly tuned version of ROG 3 with a weak body and some overpriced expanded memory..
Thanks for the hint: however I'm really sceptical to be honest. I can't believe this can happen due to bending in normal pocket (or maybe I don't want to believe it because I like the phone)
I really wish you best of luck that Asus repairs it for free and I would like to know the outcome.
What does your pockets look like? Are they too small/tight because I tried it and whatever I do my current phone isn't under pressure at any time when it's in my pockets.
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Thanks for the hint: however I'm really sceptical to be honest. I can't believe this can happen due to bending in normal pocket (or maybe I don't want to believe it because I like the phone)
I really wish you best of luck that Asus repairs it for free and I would like to know the outcome.
What does your pockets look like? Are they too small/tight because I tried it and whatever I do my current phone isn't under pressure at any time when it's in my pockets.
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I didn't believe it either. Normal pocket size and I never carry my phone in the back pocket where you risk sitting on it. My best guess is the device was in a front pocket while wearing jeans and has bent at an angle on the weak point while sitting down or something just enough for some internal circuit or antenna lines to bend or break. Don't put this to test with your own device - you'll wreck it...
Honestly, the device is meant to be used almost exclusively with the cooler. This is the same reason I never take it off, but turn it off, when putting it in a pocket. Beyond the obvious improvements to heat concerns, it also reinforces the center of the device to prevent bending.
Sure, it does make it a bit bulkier and isn't going to prevent the device from pressure if you wear skinny jeans a size smaller than they should be for proper circulation, but it will definitely stop it from randomly folding in half without breaking that first.
I get dragged into a lot of unplanned physical activity without thinking about preventing stress on the phone. I've been unable to confirm that the phone will simply break over time.
I can only assume it was one of those perfect scenarios, not unlike the Note 7 fires. It is obviously a possibility, but the actual number of people that will ever experience it is probably too low and it's just not enough of a safety concern to justify a recall or discontinuation.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I actually tried to use a Pelican G40 case to store the phone and cooler during travel (and add water protection). The case is just slightly too short and the device had to be angled for a tight fit. This would be a lot like placing the phone in a tight pocket. I would be interested to see bend tests done with the cooler.
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Honestly, the device is meant to be used almost exclusively with the cooler. This is the same reason I never take it off, but turn it off, when putting it in a pocket. Beyond the obvious improvements to heat concerns, it also reinforces the center of the device to prevent bending.
Sure, it does make it a bit bulkier and isn't going to prevent the device from bending if you wear skinny jeans a size smaller than they should be for proper circulation, but it will definitely stop it from randomly folding in half from normal use.
I've mentioned before that I only use my device with WiFi, but I live in an area where a lot of neighbors share their connections and get together often. I play Nerf war, skateboard, and all the other stuff that the younger parents get dragged into by being close with them. I should also mention that I have no kids, so it's not something I consider in my own purchases. Knock on wood that I've never been able to confirm that the phone will simply break over time.
I can only assume it was one of those perfect scenarios, not unlike the Note 7 fires. It is obviously a possibility, but the actual number of people that will ever experience it is probably too low and it's just not enough of a safety concern to justify a recall or discontinuation.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I actually tried to use a Pelican G40 case to store the phone during travel (and add water protection). The case is just slightly too short and the device had to be angled for the latch to work. This would be a lot like placing the phone in a tight pocket and the cooler kept it rigid. I would be interested to see those bend tests done with the cooler.
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If the device is meant to be used exclusively with the cooler, ASUS should explicitly make that clear and include one with every phone, in which case the design of the Lenovo Legion is probably better - i.e just build a cooler hump into the phone regardless of the looks. The ROG 5 cooler is waay to bulky for pocket use for most people.
I think the weak mid body pf ROG5 is just due to sloppy design - which is unacceptable for what is meant to be a flagship device.
Either way, keep this phone in a bag or jacket pocket and make sure it's not at a bending angle at any time. Seems you don't need a big squeeze to break stuff inside the phone. I don't know what's under the mid section, it could be some antenna rails or other connectors that easily break or bend out of function. Again, I don't recommend testing any of this, the risk of breaking your device is high...
Andrologic said:
If the device is meant to be used exclusively with the cooler, ASUS should explicitly make that clear and include one with every phone, in which case the design of the Lenovo Legion is probably better - i.e just build a cooler hump into the phone regardless of the looks. The ROG 5 cooler is waay to bulky for pocket use for most people.
I think the weak mid body pf ROG5 is just due to sloppy design - which is unacceptable for what is meant to be a flagship device.
Either way, keep this phone in a bag or jacket pocket and make sure it's not at a bending angle at any time. Seems you don't need a big squeeze to break stuff inside the phone. I don't know what's under the mid section, it could be some antenna rails or other connectors that easily break or bend out of function. Again, I don't recommend testing any of this, the risk of breaking your device is high...
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Both Pro and Ultimate versions DO come with one, but one of the ways to make a cheaper version is to leave out some accessories and sell them separately. They may still expect you to buy it and may not prioritize the concerns of those that don't. Besides, building something prone to burning out and breaking down into the phone is a terrible decision. Lenovo will no doubt get their own backlash for that down the road.
I feel like carrying the phone in a bag or jacket is just as big of a risk. It would make more sense to get a rigid holster or sleeve. I don't feel like the design was sloppy, but definitely not as durable as typical phones. Much like the Nvidia Shield, I am sure there are a lot of things they wanted to make possible that ended up being a lot of compromises.
I'll be interested to see how widespread this becomes and how Asus goes about handling it. The number of imports / exports mean a lot of people are running around without proper warranty coverage.
Wow it makes my Note 10+'s battery replacement look like a cakewalk.
Yeah you don't want to flex this phone...
Update >> ASUS fixed the device. There was damage to both reception as well as reading the SIM slots. The main board had to be replaced. They did it free of charge under the warranty, no questions asked. I think they know they've messed up..
It sounds like Asus covered exactly what is written in the terms of the warranty, which is hardware failure without any obvious signs of abuse. I don't know that I would call it Asus knowing they messed up, but it's good they fixed it and hopefully you will have better luck this time around.
Thank you very much for letting us know. That might at least mean we don't have to worry too much
My display damaged and i wanna to ask you smth guys.
How difficulty is it to change it by myself?
I watch this video "
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Tell me your opinion. Is it easy to do?
Can't tell if it's easy, but in other situations that I needed a heat gun and didn't have one, I used a hair dryer, which is way more common to have at home, or at least easier to borrow from a neighbor or something like that
Watch tear down and repair vids.
If a repair shop will let you watch them do it.
ESD, learn and understand what it is. Discreet components ie the display and mobo are very susceptible to it out of circuit.
Bare minimum protection is a bare wood surface to work on and a relative room humidity of 50% or better. A earth grounded ESD mat and wrist strap is best
Disconnect the battery as soon as possible in the disassembly process. Discharge below 40% if possible before starting.
Have all the drivers, picks, fine precision tweezers, and tools needed. Excellent light and a 2X or so optical visor be nice.
Inspect for additional damage*.
Have a set of OEM seals and now's a good time to replace the battery if it's performance has noticably dropped.
Take pictures disassembling if needed. It must be put back together exactly as it was.
Do Not over torgue screws... less is better.
Be very careful not to damage the ribbon microconnectors.
Take your time, no rush.
*any impact that can break the display or bend the frame can damage the mobo. High G loads or direct impacts can damage chipsets internally, fracture solder joints and internally damaged multilayered mobo PCB internal traces.
I did it three days ago, bc my mix 3 had contact with water.
Its kind of easy to do with a hairdryer and a small plastic tool.
The hardest part is to glue it back together.
(But I have to say my screen didn't work afterwards. The expert in the phone repair store said its maybe a problem on the motherboard)
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I did it three days ago, bc my mix 3 had contact with water.
Its kind of easy to do with a hairdryer and a small plastic tool.
The hardest part is to glue it back together.
(But I have to say my screen didn't work afterwards. The expert in the phone repair store said its maybe a problem on the motherboard)
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If the battery isn't promptly removed and especially if it's not immediately powered down the current can cause corrosion and short out circuits. The power section is particularly vulnerable. Try again, inspect mobo and the ribbon connectors for signs of corrosion and moisture. Use bright light and magnification.
Is it completely dry? A good soaking with anhydrous isopropyl will help remove hidden water. Again dry completely afterwards. Getting the underside of BGA chipsets dry is imperative.
The micro connectors tend to trap moisture too.
Careful use of compressed air can be very useful but the key word here is careful. Don't stick a nozzle with 100 psi an inch or two from the mobo! Either use low pressure clean, dry air or back it up for high pressure air.
Use your best judgment... it's a bit of an art.
After you dry it as good as possible let it sit in a warm, dry room with a fan on it. Complete drying may take days without disassembly.
Thank you for the tips! I will try it like you described
The same is true with flooded cars, promptly pulling the battery can limit the damage even save the vehicle.
Be wary on flood damage vehicles for sale now, always check for water lines/marks
Most will suffer impossible electrical problems forever. Brine water always kills...