[Advice]ROMs, Bootloaders, and Knox - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
It's been a while since I've lurked through the forums, so I'm a bit rusty. This 4.1.2 is starting to get long in the tooth, so I'm looking around for a new KitKat ROM. Do I need a new Bootloader for KitKat Roms on the note? If so, is there a way to avoid Knox? What Roms do you recommend for KitKat and up? If I go custom instead of stock, what apps do you recommend to replace Touchwiz's own? What's the flashing/rooting/odining process like again?

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New owner question

Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
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Okay. Sorry to have asked.
Don't be sorry. I understand, but there are a ton of threads that show how to do everything.
Don't update to the stock 2.2 cause it will give you the new 3e recovery issue.
Just flash to a custom 2.2 custom rom.
Thanks all. I used Android about 1 year ago, but then jumped to the dark side. Trying to pick up a few things again.
A wealth of active information over here. Great to see!
Stock 2.2 is no problem to root / whatever you want to do.
Go to the Developer section of these forums and you'll find all the info you want.
Basically the general idea is this:
The program that can flash these phones directly is available (Odin 1.3)
Therefore you can always do what you want. the 2e recovery is technically easier to root, but gaining this back is as simple as downloading a 6mb kernel and flashing with Odin, and poof you are in Clockwork mod and can do what you want.
Basically, upgrade away, you're never stuck with a captivate provided you dont screw up the boot or sbl. (Search those for explanation)
iFalcon said:
Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
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if you definitely plan on installing a custom rom, i'd stay on stock eclair. I recently installed Serendipity 6.2 (my first custom rom), and it required an ODIN back to stock 2.1 (unfortunately i had updated to stock froyo). i'm not sure if all roms require this, but it certainly would have saved a few steps if i was on stock eclair. nothing really exciting in stock froyo, especially if you plan on going the custom rom route anyway.
also, i highly recommend Serendipity (now 6.3)
Thanks for the replies.
I was able to root cand flash a custom rom - firefly last night. It's really fun to be back in the game again. Can't say I miss the iPhone so far, but we'll see.
Thanks.
I was disappointed with official the froyo update. Custom roms are much better than stock. You'll also gain a deeper appreciation for what the devs do.
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Which to choose?

Hi all,
Just got my nexus 5 and my friend told me to flash it. "Its my first"
But look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475401
There are so many links and i dont know which one is which.
AOSP means custom? Google means original?
And which one to choose there's so many, what's the difference between original android and android development?
And reading a thread about nexus 5 defect updating to 4.4.2 the battery life is terrible. So if that's the case if i wanna root, which do you recommend? which ROM is widely use now?
Sorry for the bad english.
Take a deep breath, look around the forums and read post, and you will get a different answer from every user here by asking these questions.
ASOP means vanilla android.
To answer original versus android development http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/
It's a nexus 5, it was born to be rooted.
Battery life is what you make it out to be.
Until you are sure what's going on I would recommend rooting and stay stock. There are many options out there by the first step is always knowing what your doing. Check out this link it's everything you need to know about unlocking bootloader flashing custom recovery and rooting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47025283
Personally I am stock rooted 4.4.2 with xposed gravity box installed which gives me all the customization I need. I haven't noticed any issues with battery life and the camera updates were well worth the update.
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Rooted, now installing a rom

Hey guys converter from iPhone over here. Last time I rooted it was fairly straightforward and was able to get going quickly. This newer stuff is a little new to me.
I rooted my sprint s5 using towel root. Now what? I see roms like omega but none really say anything about the sprint model.
What should i do next to install a boottloader then a rom?
Thanks
kwwood said:
Hey guys converter from iPhone over here. Last time I rooted it was fairly straightforward and was able to get going quickly. This newer stuff is a little new to me.
I rooted my sprint s5 using towel root. Now what? I see roms like omega but none really say anything about the sprint model.
What should i do next to install a boottloader then a rom?
Thanks
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Assuming you are a new XDA user. Welcome to the forum and be sure to read over the forum rules. They might save you some headache in the future. For example, this post should of been in the Q&A section but no biggie. A mod will move it if need be.
Anyways, about your question, this is the Sprint specific forum so all the roms here should be compatible with the Sprint S5 (900P). Some of the roms will be based off of Touchwiz (these will keep almost 100% of stock functionality while adding some extras) and AOSP roms (custom based on CM, MIUI, etc.) The first post of each rom thread will give you a good idea of what the rom has included, instructions to flash, what works and doesn't, and so on.
If you just rooted get a custom recovery on there and do a backup of the system and EFS first thing. As for bootloader, that is preference and may depend on what rom you flash but I would think you will be fine with what version you have now.
This is also a good thread to take a look at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52456762&postcount=1

[Completed] Root, Custom Rom, Update, Kernel, Bootloader - procedures I don't know

Hi XDA experts
I am newly registered in the forum, but experienced in modding (more or less). But I am (for now) strictly a user, not developer.
So far I got along very well, with my beloved Galaxy S4 jfltexx. I got from stock to rooted stock, from there to cm, instantly back to stock, used it for a long time and am just now on cm13 nightly, which is truly awesome!
It is so awesome that I would really like to help other people out, even if they have no idea about this. Meaning I wish to modify other peoples phones for them. However, when it comes to other peoples property I can't really fight my way through technical terms I don't understand anymore, hoping that the outcome will be as I wished. I pretty much know what most of all these technical terms mean, but I don't always understand how they are related to each other. I know, explaining this will take a while, but I would REALLY appreciate it if someone would take the time...
The bootloader, can it be replaced? What would be the purpose of that?
What do custom ROMs typically consist of? An entire working system? Parts of a working system? Sometimes this sometimes that?
I'm asking the question because I got the impression that some custom ROMs require the user to have a certain (usually stock) ROM in order to flash it. For example, if I had a Galaxy S6 edge running 5.1.1, could I upgrade to noble ROM Marshmallow?
I also have the feeling that the ROM or system or whatever is somewhat seperate from the kernel. What is this relation? Do custom ROMs not always come with a compatible kernel? Is there only one kernel compatible to the rest of the system, or is there a chance to run a system with a kernel not particularly designed for it? How to get a 'wrong' kernel?
My Nandroids only run on my phone, right? I couldn't just flash them on my friends (same model) phone!?
Where to get stock ROMs and who provides them? If I wanted to upgrade from Lollipop to Marshmallow, but am rooted and don't get OTA updates, what do I do? Assuming that Nandroids are bound to a single device (e.g. MY phone) who can provide a stock ROM that runs on my device and how does he get it?
Can I run pure Android on any phone, or is it (always?) necessary to adjust it? I understand that my hardware buttons of the S4 would probably not work on pure Android, but the rest?
Thanks guys
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[Completed] I need a basic rundown of rooting benefits.

I recently bought a Moto X Pure from an XDA Member which should be here at the beginning of next week.
I used to own a GS5 which as you know is pretty locked down. Locked bootloader, hard to root, if you updated you're screwed, ect. So! I've been out of the rooting game for a while now and only really dipped my toes in to begin with.
My question is, can anyone explain the basics and benefits of a rooted device? Specifically, Xposed Framework/Modules, Root detection with Android Pay, and maybe some things that i've gotta try out with a fully unlocked android device. I plan to install an AOSP ROM but im gonna try out stock Moto X first and see how i like it.
Another short question I have regarding Android Pay, i've heard that some root techniques make Android Pay not work, some are fine, some custom ROMs wont work, AOSP roms will, can somebody clarify all this for me?
Thanks guys, you're always helpful. Glad to be back.
grisly grizzly said:
I recently bought a Moto X Pure from an XDA Member which should be here at the beginning of next week.
I used to own a GS5 which as you know is pretty locked down. Locked bootloader, hard to root, if you updated you're screwed, ect. So! I've been out of the rooting game for a while now and only really dipped my toes in to begin with.
My question is, can anyone explain the basics and benefits of a rooted device? Specifically, Xposed Framework/Modules, Root detection with Android Pay, and maybe some things that i've gotta try out with a fully unlocked android device. I plan to install an AOSP ROM but im gonna try out stock Moto X first and see how i like it.
Another short question I have regarding Android Pay, i've heard that some root techniques make Android Pay not work, some are fine, some custom ROMs wont work, AOSP roms will, can somebody clarify all this for me?
Thanks guys, you're always helpful. Glad to be back.
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