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Im in no way shape or form a noob to rooting or installing custom roms. However, I do have a question about the effects of installing custom roms... I'm a install a custom rom tonight just to give it a go on my nexus before I send it in for an exchange but I don't want to do this if this is gonna hinder the update process entirely for my NEXT nexus s as well. So can anyone tell me if it does or not it would be greatly appreciated. Pretty much I still want to be able get OTA's on my soon to be new Nexus but am unsure if Custom Roming the original device will also affect the OTA process for my New nexus.
P.s. I feel its kinda lets say "weird" to have to make 10 posts before posting in the Dev area
yes Custom ROM will pretty much conflict with any OTA
if you want OTA stay stock
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P.s. I feel its kinda lets say "weird" to have to make 10 posts before posting in the Dev area
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you are NOT supposed to post in the DEV area to begin with...
only DEV should post in the DEV area
it should be noted that chances are the ROM devs will include the OTA in the ROM far before it actually gets pushed to your phone
slowz3r said:
it should be noted that chances are the ROM devs will include the OTA in the ROM far before it actually gets pushed to your phone
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that is usually true with all other Custom ROMs, except with Bionix ROMs
Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
The search function is your friend. Use it.
Okay. Sorry to have asked.
Don't be sorry. I understand, but there are a ton of threads that show how to do everything.
Don't update to the stock 2.2 cause it will give you the new 3e recovery issue.
Just flash to a custom 2.2 custom rom.
Thanks all. I used Android about 1 year ago, but then jumped to the dark side. Trying to pick up a few things again.
A wealth of active information over here. Great to see!
Stock 2.2 is no problem to root / whatever you want to do.
Go to the Developer section of these forums and you'll find all the info you want.
Basically the general idea is this:
The program that can flash these phones directly is available (Odin 1.3)
Therefore you can always do what you want. the 2e recovery is technically easier to root, but gaining this back is as simple as downloading a 6mb kernel and flashing with Odin, and poof you are in Clockwork mod and can do what you want.
Basically, upgrade away, you're never stuck with a captivate provided you dont screw up the boot or sbl. (Search those for explanation)
iFalcon said:
Hi -
I just purchased a new Captivate...mint condition. It's still on 2.1.
I'm interested to just getting it updated to the official 2.2 software release. However, at the same time I plan to spend several days studying how to root and installing custom roms.
My question is if I install the official 2.2 update then would I still be able to apply custom roms. I learned the hard way that once 2.2 was applied to the HTC Aria, rooting was out of the question.
Anyway, thanks everyone. By the way, I came from the 3GS. Captivate is really a nice change.
Thanks.
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if you definitely plan on installing a custom rom, i'd stay on stock eclair. I recently installed Serendipity 6.2 (my first custom rom), and it required an ODIN back to stock 2.1 (unfortunately i had updated to stock froyo). i'm not sure if all roms require this, but it certainly would have saved a few steps if i was on stock eclair. nothing really exciting in stock froyo, especially if you plan on going the custom rom route anyway.
also, i highly recommend Serendipity (now 6.3)
Thanks for the replies.
I was able to root cand flash a custom rom - firefly last night. It's really fun to be back in the game again. Can't say I miss the iPhone so far, but we'll see.
Thanks.
I was disappointed with official the froyo update. Custom roms are much better than stock. You'll also gain a deeper appreciation for what the devs do.
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thread closed, please use the search feature before you post.
Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
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The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
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Hi All:
This is my first time here, I've been looking for a Rom for my S3 which can make it more similar to S4 with all its featuers.
I flashed many Rom and most of them has the 4.2.2 update but it has the nexus touch which I didnt like on my S3.
Any recommendations for a good Rom which is stable and have no issues..
Thanks in advance
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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im sure that a dev will port the s4 touchwiz rom to the s3 soon. Just be patient.
4.2.2 for s3 (S4 original framework) doubts
Kombian said:
The only answer I can give you is: Take a look in the developers forum. If you see something you like, try it. Maybe go for a rom with a stock (Samsung/TouchWiz) look, since that's what you're used to from the stock ROM. Actually, I'd start off by rooting your phone(you've already done that, since you've flashed a lot of ROMs), and remove all the bloatware you never use from stock ROM. Maybe replace a few of the stock apps with better alternatives. This makes the phone faster, and frees up memory.
You can also freeze apps, if you're not comfortable with removing them from the stock ROM. This thread discusses which apps are safe to freeze/remove. The OP links to this document showing a spreadsheet of apps that are safe/not safe to freeze/remove.
If you're not familiar with the term "freezing apps", you should do a forum search(or just Google) Titanium Backup. It's a feature LOADED (you guessed it...) backup-app, which allows you to freeze apps if you don't want to uninstall them completely. In short, it "disables" the app, removing it from the drawer, but keeping it installed. You can easily unfreeze the apps if you need them to work for you again.
Hope this helped you on you way. The world of custom ROMs is huge, so you're guaranteed to find somehing you like.
Regards,
Kombian
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Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
The first thing, what you guys mean by Stock Rom? does it mean the original android framework that was not modified yet?
2nd: how to remove all the bloatware? and what do you mean by bloatware?
3rd: is it bad for the handset to be flashed again and again with many different ROMs? I always follow the steps which the developers mention in flashing any new ROM, so is there any right ways to do that without damaging my phone?
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
I hope you guys can help me in getting more knowledge about it, and thanks a lot for your precious time that you are giving me
Thanks again
KhaldounCG said:
Thanks a lot for all the information that you've shared with me, I am still not familiar with many things in rooting which I might need your help with that.
for now these are all the doubts that I have about rooting, but I might come up with many points in the future,
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For all doubts you have now and may have in the future, please follow the first rule of XDA:
"Search before asking"
And may I suggest you read through many of the fine guides and tutorials here on this forum. Look up the stickies in the section for ur device too.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
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Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
1. I noticed people are already posting new ROMs and kernels. Do I need them? I mean, I like the stock and everything but there are a few things I can't do. Why do YOU root and change ROMs?
2. I found a lot of kernels, and I understood that it can improve my performance and battery life. I would very much like to improve my battery life. The thing is, I don't know how. I do know that people are UVing and OCing their CPU, etc but what can a noob do who is not only a noob but also just bought a phone that the rooting thing is new to it. So no everything is fully developed, optimized and ready to go in a few clicks. Do I still need to wait a couple more weeks to change my kernel? I always read kernel threads and their changelogs but it is like jibarish to me. I can't even decide which one to pick.
3. I would really like to change my icons in the quick settings panel. Am I able to do that? How?
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
5. Is there anyone who is willing to recommend personally some ROMs, mods, apps or any modifications at all?
Thank you in advance!
Bei60 said:
Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
1. I noticed people are already posting new ROMs and kernels. Do I need them? I mean, I like the stock and everything but there are a few things I can't do. Why do YOU root and change ROMs?
2. I found a lot of kernels, and I understood that it can improve my performance and battery life. I would very much like to improve my battery life. The thing is, I don't know how. I do know that people are UVing and OCing their CPU, etc but what can a noob do who is not only a noob but also just bought a phone that the rooting thing is new to it. So no everything is fully developed, optimized and ready to go in a few clicks. Do I still need to wait a couple more weeks to change my kernel? I always read kernel threads and their changelogs but it is like jibarish to me. I can't even decide which one to pick.
3. I would really like to change my icons in the quick settings panel. Am I able to do that? How?
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
5. Is there anyone who is willing to recommend personally some ROMs, mods, apps or any modifications at all?
Thank you in advance!
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1 & 2 - I recommend reading the FAQ first, stickied at the top of this Q&A Section. This should give you a good starting knowledge
3 - would need an AOSP based ROM with this feature (CM / AOKP perhaps?)
4 - sorry, can't help
5 - No. This is against what XDA stands for. Read "No best rom threads" sticky in this forum.
1. All your answers can be found here for why you should root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966 or http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
2. Franco Kernel is very friendly to use and once rooted everything can be done from his paid google play app. check it out
3. Once rooted and with customer rom installed like cyanogenmod or paranoid android the themes you download from the google play store will sometimes change the settings icons too
4. i believe cyanogen mod roms have a good hebrew compatibility
5. Just start off very simply. use the cyanogenmod installer from the playstore and wait for the nexus 5 to become compatible. wait for the device to get into more peoples hands and youll see an influx of great roms and mods
good luck and welcome to the nexus community.
rootSU said:
1 & 2 - I recommend reading the FAQ first, stickied at the top of this Q&A Section. This should give you a good starting knowledge
3 - would need an AOSP based ROM with this feature (CM / AOKP perhaps?)
4 - sorry, can't help
5 - No. This is against what XDA stands for. Read "No best rom threads" sticky in this forum.
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bigballa said:
1. All your answers can be found here for why you should root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2510966 or http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
2. Franco Kernel is very friendly to use and once rooted everything can be done from his paid google play app. check it out
3. Once rooted and with customer rom installed like cyanogenmod or paranoid android the themes you download from the google play store will sometimes change the settings icons too
4. i believe cyanogen mod roms have a good hebrew compatibility
5. Just start off very simply. use the cyanogenmod installer from the playstore and wait for the nexus 5 to become compatible. wait for the device to get into more peoples hands and youll see an influx of great roms and mods
good luck and welcome to the nexus community.
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Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
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Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
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Still rocking stock. Waiting for PA to release
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Bei60 said:
Thank you for your comments.
Kinda hard to decide wether to flash a different ROM or not. Hell, I haven't even rooted my device because I got it 7 hours ago
I'll be rooting it for sure, but I guess I'll wait a bit till CM or PA will come out. What did you guys install?
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My choice was to stay with Stock ROM. I am new to Nexus devices so I wanted to see the subtleties between stock and AOSP.
That said, De-odexed roms are easier to modifiy so I flashed one of those
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My choice was to stay with Stock ROM. I am new to Nexus devices so I wanted to see the subtleties between stock and AOSP.
That said, De-odexed roms are easier to modifiy so I flashed one of those
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How are they easier to modify? I mean, how does it come to use? Can you give me an example?
Also, I see you wrote your ROM, kernel and UVing settings in your signature. How is your battery life?
Bei60 said:
Since Im a complete newbie I wanted to ask a few questions before doing anything stupid.
4. I tried setting Hebrew as my default language but that just moves the whole interface left. Because in Hebrew we write right to left. It wasn't like this when I had my GS3. I used a few CM Roms on my s3 and they were fine until the update to 4.3. Then it did the same thing on the S3 but I didn't know it would be like this on the N5. Is it something that can be fixed? Can I email Google or call them about this?
Thank you in advance!
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Go to settings > About > tap build version 10 times to enable developer options.
Go in to developer options and you can change the screen alignment.
I second the FAQ at the top of this forum. Incredibly helpful and informative for anyone new to rooting. That should have everything you need, but I guess if I were to add anything to what the above guys (or girls) said, it would be to root FIRST before playing around with your N5 too much. Not sure if it's really obvious or not yet, but the rooting process will result in wiping your device, so it's generally recommended to get that out of the way.
That being said, once you're rooted, I can't recommend Titanium Backup enough for making sure all your stuff is available after any future ROM changes.
Lastly, welcome to the Nexus family =) Glad to have ya
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Go to settings > About > tap build version 10 times to enable developer options.
Go in to developer options and you can change the screen alignment.
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it didn't work
it works when my system is in English but not when its in Hebrew.. It still shows left to right and I need right to left
b.spec said:
I second the FAQ at the top of this forum. Incredibly helpful and informative for anyone new to rooting. That should have everything you need, but I guess if I were to add anything to what the above guys (or girls) said, it would be to root FIRST before playing around with your N5 too much. Not sure if it's really obvious or not yet, but the rooting process will result in wiping your device, so it's generally recommended to get that out of the way.
That being said, once you're rooted, I can't recommend Titanium Backup enough for making sure all your stuff is available after any future ROM changes.
Lastly, welcome to the Nexus family =) Glad to have ya
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thank! yea I watched a couple of videos and tutorials about rooting. I'll use Chainfire's tool that unlocks the BL + roots the device.
I'll stick to stock in the meanwhile, I'll just install Franco Kernel.
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How are they easier to modify? I mean, how does it come to use? Can you give me an example?
Also, I see you wrote your ROM, kernel and UVing settings in your signature. How is your battery life?
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Its just easier. Every system app has an .odex file too that requires extra modification by a themer / developer. Deodexed systems don't need that
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Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?
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Hey guys I've had my g3 rooted for a couple months now and I have yet to find a really good ROM to use cm12 was to buggy and grew tired of nightlies. Liquidsmooth was really good only issue I had was Skype and hangouts. I'm on candy5 latest build now and I'm getting a lot of glitches, force closes, etc. I've clean installed the last 2 roms and experience problems. If Liquidsmooth didn't have that Skype issue I would probably stuck to it. Any ROM suggestions?
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For the most part, all the AOSP Roms like the ones you received will have similar bugs until they are ironed out over time. The least buggy Roms are those based of the lg ROM. Right now there are only 2 stock lg lollipop Roms. Both of them are very stable however they're basically just rooted versions of the stock lollipop ROM.
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
Nexus.S said:
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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Seriously..... Go to Android Development section
2SHAYNEZ
Nexus.S said:
I see thanks for the reply can you link me 2 the 2.
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[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.
I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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It's because the development took and still takes lots of work. The devs had a lot of work just to root Lollipop, then to flash twrp. But I also do think that between all roms available (including KK roms and LP roms) we don't have as many as other devices from the same gen have. Heck, I had my Galaxy S3 and there were ports for everything. Can't complain though, between the stock ones and illusion (talking my preferences), I feel complete.
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I'm surprised we don't have more roms. It's a great phone but I feel that support is lacking.
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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.
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For KitKat, there's plenty of ROMs available, partially due to the fact that porting D855 ROMs was cake (swap out kernel and modules, and you're golden). That's why there weren't too many D850-specific ROMs.
On LP, there's a new handshake process between ROM and kernel, so we can't do that...yet. I feel like "development" on ROMs as a result is going to be hindered, since there's hope that the process will get cracked, then we can just port straight from D855 with little effort. Otherwise, if we have to mess about with the D85020f base, it'll take much more time.
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Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?
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Gotcha, I wonder if this is being worked on. If so do you know of a thread where progress could be tracked?
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@Spz0 has been talking about this as of late in his OA855-5 ROM thread, as he is readying to move the ROM to Lollipop.
The defacto LG standard ROM of many, CloudyG3 by @Cloudyfa, also will inevitably jump on this bandwagon, but he hasn't been spotted in a while. He's probably just busy or something.
Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.
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[ROM][STOCK][BUMP'd] LG D850 20F Lollipop 5.0.1 (+ extras)
TekROM - D850 - Stock 20f - Lollipop - Deodex/Root/Busybox
Keep in mind both still have all that carrier bloat we love to hate. I use the first rom without issue and debloated it myself using titanium backup.
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I can also vouch for the first one. In fact, I was far less aggressive with debloating and have skipped xposed for now... and it's more stable, better battery life and (IMO) a better UI.
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Beanstalk. Enough said.
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TonyStark said:
Not sure why this thread even exists.. this subject has been discussed ad nauseam in the Lounge.
@Nexus.S the question you've asked is one that will never offer ONE end all solid answer. It is truly a case of "to each his own". You need to continue doing what you were doing and try obe that fits all of your needs.
There are literally hundreds of users that have commented on every rom available for this device. Asking there will get you quicker answers, rather then waiting for people to find your thread and post something witty.
Threads of this type end up being nothing more then, OT threads.
Please check the index (found HERE) which lists all the roms for this device.
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True. For some it's more the 'personal process' of discussion with others that seems important, and less the strict data/direct content of the discussion.
resurrection remix 5.0.2 is a really great rom i had doubts because it was based off of cm but i was impressed