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[Q] Reason vs oneplus

Hi guys, so my friend needs a new phone but he also has a Dell chrome book which he carries around all the time. The problem is that he is very rational. He definitely wants a smartphone and loves stock Android... So he was going to buy a moto g 4g. After telling my friend about the miracle phone from one plus he really started doubting the moto but now he still wants to buy the moto because he has a got a chrome book and the one plus adds nothing to him over the moto g especially because it is so hard to get an invite and the first preorder ducked and it is 100 euro more... Can someone help me convince him to buy a one plus... Or is he right about his moto g being the smarter buy? Thanks!! Ps you got an invite you don't need, he is your guy

ollielol said:
Hi guys, so my friend needs a new phone but he also has a Dell chrome book which he carries around all the time. The problem is that he is very rational. He definitely wants a smartphone and loves stock Android... So he was going to buy a moto g 4g. After telling my friend about the miracle phone from one plus he really started doubting the moto but now he still wants to buy the moto because he has a got a chrome book and the one plus adds nothing to him over the moto g especially because it is so hard to get an invite and the first preorder ducked and it is 100 euro more... Can someone help me convince him to buy a one plus... Or is he right about his moto g being the smarter buy? Thanks!! Ps you got an invite you don't need, he is your guy
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The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.

this late in the game I would suspect that there are much better buys than the one plus one and the moto g for that matter.

Relayers said:
The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.
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You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?

Negen+1 said:
this late in the game I would suspect that there are much better buys than the one plus one and the moto g for that matter.
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Yeah? Like what? In Belgium, even the s4 and nexus 5 cost more than a oneplus-one

ollielol said:
You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.

Relayers said:
I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.
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sorry to hear your misfortune

OnePlusOne will soon get a upgrade to android L
And it's the smartphone with the best design on the market

ollielol said:
You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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ollielol said:
Yeah? Like what? In Belgium, even the s4 and nexus 5 cost more than a oneplus-one
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Even the S5 ? What do you expect ? Are you for real ? The Oneplus One is a huge defect toy, thats why its only US$350.00. Its fast, it has an amazing battery life, but that's it.

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ollielol said:
You mean like the yellow band and the touch screen responsiveness? I thought they fixed those?
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Not really. My rma'd phone still has a very slight yellow band and touch issues, although its much better now (on acceptable grade), is still far from perfect. My old s3 is far better regarding touch sensitivity.
Its still a beast of a phone in everything else - battery for 2 days and 3gb ram are a whole new level for me.
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Relayers said:
I got my phone in october and it has a big yellow band at the bottom of the sreen. It cant be fix.
I also have various touchscreen problems, random reboots, app crash, custom settings that disappear, same for some widgets, terrible signal reception. Some people have a lot of problem with LTE (I dont). Some people have problem with battery draining (I dont).
They have a terrible customer service, Im still waiting for an RMA (2 weeks ), some people waited 6 weeks for an RMA.
This phone is ONE big mistake.
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Sorry to hear that... Hope you get a new functioning phone soon. Thanks for warning me

Relayers said:
Even the S5 ? What do you expect ? Are you for real ? The Oneplus One is a huge defect toy, thats why its only US$350.00. Its fast, it has an amazing battery life, but that's it.
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I said s4, of course the s5 is a lot more expensive, are you going to ditch the one plus? Or give it a last try?

I guess I am lucky to get a one plus one with no known issues. I only have access to lte band 4 but I did use the Qualcomm tools to enable the other bands and should be getting access to band 2 soon. I have no yellow colors and touch screen works great. I think most users that do not have issues are not posting in XDA or one plus forums. Only real issue I have is how slow it charges.
Other options might be a zte phone or Dell or other higher end China brands

I came form a N5 and my OPO build date is Oct. No issues what so ever. Love the phone, I still have my N5 to play with the dev version of L. The N5 runs fantastic with L, but I've not used it since I got my OPO. If you can afford the N6, I would certainly get it, but if you don't want to be under the thumb of the carriers, I don't think you can do much better for near the price/features of the One. Also, I got my N5 when it first came out and you would of thought it was the worst made phone in the history of phones. I remember the same thing with the IP5, antenna gate! Most of the people who complain, are very vocal. Most of the people who don't have an issue don't really post. Any of the Samsung have so much bloat on them and its such a pita to get the same functionality you get out of the box with the One.

Yeah certainly true, thanks man! But still they only sold half a million and I keep seeing these complaints pop up since the launch of the OPO in July, maybe part of it is true... And how is your battery life, is it consistent? I a almost planning on selling my LG g2 to my friend and buying the one plus myself if I can get an invite

With so many people having issues, I wonder why I don't have any issues, NEVER had a random reboot. No touch issues whatsoever with any ROM/KERNEL.
I have a very slight yellow band, but its not really noticable compared some of the pictures that I've seen
Hands down the best phone I've ever used

Relayers said:
The OnePlus One a miacle phone ? Are you serious ?
The only miracle here is people still buying this phone with all the known problems it has.
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You mean those problems that only affect a small percentage of the total units sold? The problems that have been blown way out of proportion? It's ridiculous to say the things you're saying about this phone just because you're having a bad experience. You're the minority.
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naeem76 said:
With so many people having issues, I wonder why I don't have any issues, NEVER had a random reboot. No touch issues whatsoever with any ROM/KERNEL.
I have a very slight yellow band, but its not really noticable compared some of the pictures that I've seen
Hands down the best phone I've ever used
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That's because the overwhelming majority of these phones are perfect, just like any other smartphone, the problems only affect a small number of the overall devices sold.
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ollielol said:
Yeah certainly true, thanks man! But still they only sold half a million and I keep seeing these complaints pop up since the launch of the OPO in July, maybe part of it is true... And how is your battery life, is it consistent? I a almost planning on selling my LG g2 to my friend and buying the one plus myself if I can get an invite
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The battery life is fantastic. The phone is fantastic. Don't listen to the whiners, they make it sound so much worse than it actually is. Every single smartphone on the market encounters bugs and the like. The fact is the people who have problems always stomp their feet and carry on like children, while the majority of the owners who have zero issues just enjoy their device. You don't see people creating threads just to say that their phone is working the way it should, and that's why the overly vocal complainers give the false impression that this phone is a lemon.
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small percentage of the total units sold? Good one... Sad fanboys.

Relayers said:
small percentage of the total units sold? Good one... Sad fanboys.
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Got proof? Didn't think so.
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I once did a poll, only about 5 percent of people couldn't use the phone at all, another 30 percent had small bugs but that's CM

LG G Flex 2 lags like crazy

I came from a G2, this phone is tons slower. Unlock after pattern takes a whole second. It's terrible.

Try removing unwanted widgets on your home screen, I tried to make mine very minimalist and it's working fine. Battery life is terrible though

No widgets. There is something very wrong here. Battery life is ultra terrible, you're right. If they don't update the firmware then it'll be a disaster and LG will lose whatever goodwill they built the last few years with the g2 and G3
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This phone seemed rushed and not polished hope a 5.1 update fix this issue with the phone. For a 1080p screen battery drains to much considering the battery size.

I had the same problem with the g3. Laggy and very poor battery life be lucky to have 20% left after 5hrs

this will help with lag
If you do an immediate factory reset after the initial startup when getting it it helps immensely with the lagging issues mine is crazy fast now

The Verge tech site did a review and they observed same lags:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/13/8206953/lg-g-flex-2-review
From the review:
"Did I mention that the scrolling is laggy? That chronic lag also spoils the other jewels in Android’s crown"

DaverBeaver said:
If you do an immediate factory reset after the initial startup when getting it it helps immensely with the lagging issues mine is crazy fast now
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You're not kidding, right? Maybe a dalvik cache flush would work for me. How do you enter recovery on this thing?
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Now that I'm rooted and able to change my gov from interactive to ondemand i see the phone i paid for!

Yes, there is a lag here and there but I don't have any complaints about battery life. It's not as good as G3 but a whole league better than my previous Galaxy S5.

Stank0 said:
Yes, there is a lag here and there but I don't have any complaints about battery life. It's not as good as G3 but a whole league better than my previous Galaxy S5.
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I seriously doubt that, like how I doubt that you only get little lag.
No need to lie, man. We all hate it when we dump $700 on a "premium" phone that feels and responds like something out of Fischer Price. I've been there too.

Applesexual said:
I seriously doubt that, like how I doubt that you only get little lag.
No need to lie, man. We all hate it when we dump $700 on a "premium" phone that feels and responds like something out of Fischer Price. I've been there too.
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YMMV but I don't have any need to lie. My S5 would go from 100 to 20% in 8 hours with screen off.
G3 under the same conditions, same config/apps 2 days easy.
Flex 2 100 to 50% in 24 hrs.
Edit: Last time I took my wife to a dinner and used my S5 for navigation there. When we left, the phone was 100% charged. When we got back home after approx 3 hrs, the battery was at 15%. That's when I decided I need to try something different (again)
The lag I would compare to my old Note 2 (I still use) which I agree, is unacceptable considering Flex 2 has much better hardware.
I also had a few FCs on contacts which seems to be a common bug of L. (had the same thing with S5 after I upgraded to lollipop)
Lets hope it'll get ironed out with next update.
Oh and it looks like the signal strength is considerably better compared to any of my Galaxies BUT the handoff is slower.

This is the lag you'd get, after running geekbench 3 times in a row.
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And here's the ****ty battery life.
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Well I don't know why but these are my results:
Three times in row. The first two were much better (about 2x better) but the third one... not that stellar. Maybe the much discussed heat throttling? But the phone didn't feel especially hot.
I still cannot complain about the battery.

Both our results are very very bad for an 810 chip
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caysman said:
This is the lag you'd get, after running geekbench 3 times in a row.
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And here's the ****ty battery life.
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Out of curiosity, why did you buy the device and why haven't you returned it yet?
Your lagging issues and battery problems are very common with the Flex 2 because of the power-hungry 810 processor.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/17/lg-g-flex-2-review/
Performance is unbelievably terrible
I could potentially overlook some of the missing Lollipop features and broken system tools (that’s a lie, I probably couldn’t), but the level of jank and lag in this phone is something you just can’t avoid. I don’t know if LG had to throttle the hell out of the Snapdragon 810 to keep it from melting all of this plastic and so it just can’t keep up, or if Lollipop’s memory leak is to blame, but what I do know is that this phone is the worst performing phone I have used in probably four years. It stutters while swiping between screens. It also needs to be rebooted multiple times per day to function properly. It gets so bad some times that it can’t even load websites properly in Chrome without completely freezing up. I can’t even tell you the number of times that I got so frustrated that I went from hammering on back, home, and app switcher buttons to try to kill current tasks, to being moments away from throwing the phone against a wall. It simply cannot be understated how terrible this phone is to try to complete anything on.
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I bought the flex2 because I didn't believe that it was as terrible as the press claimed, and had to see for myself. What I saw is worse than the press said.
In my country we can't just return things, it has to be defective to return things. Singapore.
Based on some accounts we read here, saying that it's just a batch problem, I can then build a case for return.
I also like to buy bleeding edge devices and see what can be done to redress their problems.
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caysman said:
I bought the flex2 because I didn't believe that it was as terrible as the press claimed, and had to see for myself. What I saw is worse than the press said.
In my country we can't just return things, it has to be defective to return things. Singapore.
Based on some accounts we read here, saying that it's just a batch problem, I can then build a case for return.
I also like to buy bleeding edge devices and see what can be done to redress their problems.
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I think the press was too lenient with this device. It seems like all of them were trying to downplay the lagging issue to get on Qualcomm and LG's good side.
Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, and if you plan on buying another high-end phone this year, I suggest you stick with Samsung.
It seems all the bad rumors about the 810 are true, so it's logical to assume that any phone from LG, htc, SONY, and other OEMs not named Samsung will have the same problems as the G FLex 2.

Applesexual said:
I think the press was too lenient with this device. It seems like all of them were trying to downplay the lagging issue to get on Qualcomm and LG's good side.
Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, and if you plan on buying another high-end phone this year, I suggest you stick with Samsung.
It seems all the bad rumors about the 810 are true, so it's logical to assume that any phone from LG, htc, SONY, and other OEMs not named Samsung will have the same problems as the G FLex 2.
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Hi Apple, I dislike Touchwiz intensely. My family has myriad Samsung devices, they suck. The G2 and G3 were masterpieces. I hope that LG can fix this. I'll try switching the device tomorrow but I hope that I will get some information on WHAT serial number works and what doesn't.
My serial number for sucky Flex 2 is 502KPCA003579 LG-H959

Demo models different?

Working in a phone shop I have noticed that the demo g flex 2 has a very different screen. There is no graininess, or greyish hue. And battery seems to be so much better. Left the demo video playing on full brightness on for 8 hours before it conked out. And seem to be getting much better benchmarking scores even though it is full of bloat ware.
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Well i have the Sprint flex 2 and the screen seems just as good as my g3. Idk why this phone is hated so much i love my flex 2 alot better than my nexus 6 i got rid of. Better specs and more software that utilizes the screen is a win in my book. People complain about to much gimmicks or bloat but ain't no way in hell i will ever touch a nexus device again. The nexus 6 has way more issues than this device but people enjoy it. So with that said if you don't like it don't buy it. This phone was not made for everyone, but for the people that it's made for they will find it more than adequate for daily use.

I had a Sprint flex 2. The screen was great. I had no problem at all with over heating. Battery was bad the first day, but after a reset, it was much better. Had some occasional lag, and hot spot wouldn't work. But I read all the bad reports on the forums, and returned it. Now I wish I had it back. I keep checking swappa for a used one at a good price. When I find one, I will be back on it.

It will only become more popular! I'm impressed with its specs (except ram) and considering an unlocked one for my T-Mobile usa.
Also, US Cellular will be getting it 3/26/15: http://www.androidauthority.com/us-cellular-g-flex-2-march-26-596394/

Apparently... there are batches of s%itty phones and batches of good ones. I'm the lucky one with a good one. The software is clearly not fully optimized hence the (in my case) occasional lag.
I think the thermal throttling is set to be too safe, but on the other hand... considering how some phones heat up, it's quite understandable. I wish I could change the throttling settings because mine doesn't heat up AT ALL. I was running Antutu and Geekbench about 7 times back to back. It just got kinda warm. The only time I noticed it getting warm-er was when I did the factory reset and was downloading all (68) apps over 4G with one bar. So I believe it was the radio what contributed to the increased temperature.
Btw, I found that Geekbench is the only benchmark (I tried) that drops score significantly at the third run. With Antutu I found, the drop isn't that significant even after 5 runs back to back.
Edit: Actually, I take that back. Antutu drops about 8000 points (from 53000 to 45000) the third run (64bit mode)
But as with everything and this phone especially, YMMV.

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I had a Sprint flex 2. The screen was great. I had no problem at all with over heating. Battery was bad the first day, but after a reset, it was much better. Had some occasional lag, and hot spot wouldn't work. But I read all the bad reports on the forums, and returned it. Now I wish I had it back. I keep checking swappa for a used one at a good price. When I find one, I will be back on it.
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Same here. Swapped it over twice and then got a note edge. Since then have got another g flex which so far has been suprisingly good.
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I also have a Demo unit which was supplied by LG and Sprint and I find it runs quite well except that there is no Wi-Fi Calling. Everytime I try to enable wi-fi calling, it goes into Device Self Service and tries to load something then gives a me a network error message to call customer service. Everything else works fine.
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[Q] Talk me out of getting a G Flex 2

So we've all read and watched review after review of the laggy, thermal throttling, flop of a device the G Flex 2 is. Nonetheless, I'm still interested in this device, and I do not know why. Maybe because I enjoy tinkering and using tech that others don't. Maybe because reading some owners' reviews here seem to paint a different picture.
Are you happy with this device and feel a lot of the issues were addressed?
The only thing holding me back is the total lack of a dev community. This seems to be held up by a current un-unlockable bootloader, correct? I really don't like skinned Android, but have honestly never used LG's skin before. If a CM or stock port could be guaranteed I think I'd pull the trigger on this.
Thoughts?

dimex said:
So we've all read and watched review after review of the laggy, thermal throttling, flop of a device the G Flex 2 is. Nonetheless, I'm still interested in this device, and I do not know why. Maybe because I enjoy tinkering and using tech that others don't. Maybe because reading some owners' reviews here seem to paint a different picture.
Are you happy with this device and feel a lot of the issues were addressed?
The only thing holding me back is the total lack of a dev community. This seems to be held up by a current un-unlockable bootloader, correct? I really don't like skinned Android, but have honestly never used LG's skin before. If a CM or stock port could be guaranteed I think I'd pull the trigger on this.
Thoughts?
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There are no guarantees but I am happy with my choice. I use the us model which has 3 GB of ram. Never even had one stutter. It also does not get very warm like my nexus 6 did. The only downfall I have is being on at&t I will likely never see an update.
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Well, here it goes..
First of all, I have H955 version ( 16gb/2gb).
A couple of days ago , I read that a 5.1.1 update is starting to roll out, which is pretty great, taking the fact that many MANY other devices are still on 4.4 and 5.0. That said, a user that got the update , said that now we have an option for OEM unlock, which is a step closer for getting custom roms ( at least, I think ). Also, update also brings some under the hood optimizations , such is less buggy home and lower temperature while using the phone.
Now, my opinions with the current 5.0.1 - and you have to believe me on this - I have no lags. At all. Those slow downs are just not there - luncher gets reset sometimes after using chrome, and the phone gets hotter when using it for a long period of time, but other than that.. Phone works awesome, apps open instantly, launcher is not buggy etc..
Next the heating issue - it is only there when I play games, browse in chrome for some time (although, sometimes faster , after 2,3 minutes of browsing - dont know why).
The screen - this is very IMPORTANT . Some users, like me, have yellow spots on display when there is a grey background - only visible on that and maybe some greyish bcgrnds AND with brightness turned to 0%.. A say this is important because it can be annoying from time to time - IF YOU CAN SEE IT! Some users have no such issue (if it is an issue). It is a part of production process etc etc etc.
To summarize - I like my g flex 2 . You can see that from all the above. It is great looking, fast phone with great camera. What else is there not to like? It is a personal preference though. There are many great phones out there, like the upcoming LG G4, SG Note 4, HTC OneM9 and many other phones. If you ask me , I would always choose flex 2, and with the upcoming 5.1 android (I cant wait for it) it is a win. I am aware that many users are reporting lags and issues with the phone but I dont have them.
Take your time. Take in consideration , for example , new LG G4. Talk to someone else who has this phone. But in the end, dont let someone convince you in to buying any phone - you will be using it, and you will have to live with its pros and cons. Big text, I know, live long and prosper.

And I think the same way. Is it possible that the G Flex 2 so bad? I have a G3 with CM based rom and I am very pleased with it. But the design of the G Flex 2 like very much. Weak development support for it worries me and if so I'll probably have to skip it.

dimex said:
So we've all read and watched review after review of the laggy, thermal throttling, flop of a device the G Flex 2 is. Nonetheless, I'm still interested in this device, and I do not know why. Maybe because I enjoy tinkering and using tech that others don't. Maybe because reading some owners' reviews here seem to paint a different picture.
Are you happy with this device and feel a lot of the issues were addressed?
The only thing holding me back is the total lack of a dev community. This seems to be held up by a current un-unlockable bootloader, correct? I really don't like skinned Android, but have honestly never used LG's skin before. If a CM or stock port could be guaranteed I think I'd pull the trigger on this.
Thoughts?
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If you can, i suggest that you wait 2-3 months. Not only for price drop but to see how the other 810 phones settle down. If you read reviews of other810 phones and check their performance all seem to suffer fron the same problems. For example xiaomi mi note pro, nubia z9,htc m9, even oneplus 2. If you like big dev community oneplus 2 is your choise.
I personally bought flex2 because we had in greece a big discount for only one day 300euro unlocked. If i had missed the discount i would have waited 2-3 months

dimex said:
So we've all read and watched review after review of the laggy, thermal throttling, flop of a device the G Flex 2 is. Nonetheless, I'm still interested in this device, and I do not know why. Maybe because I enjoy tinkering and using tech that others don't. Maybe because reading some owners' reviews here seem to paint a different picture.
Are you happy with this device and feel a lot of the issues were addressed?
The only thing holding me back is the total lack of a dev community. This seems to be held up by a current un-unlockable bootloader, correct? I really don't like skinned Android, but have honestly never used LG's skin before. If a CM or stock port could be guaranteed I think I'd pull the trigger on this.
Thoughts?
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For me this is my 6th phone in one year so I can compare pretty good.
I must say it is not a bad phone. Have some lag here and there but it is manageable. It is not that smooth as an oneplus one for instance.
The heating is there, don't expect to play games for long, as the heating eats the battery.
General Battery performance is ok, I have there no complaints.
I also like the camera it is one of the best I used so far.
I think this is a solid phone but the standard price is just to high. If you pay the full price I would not go for the Flex. For that money you are better of with a more standard phone like the G4. It is more reliable and will get more attention during the years.
I got my for 400USD, for that I think it is okay, but still not that good value as an oneplus one.
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I really love mine although I had my problems with it at first. Mine had a tendency to thermal throttle fairly easily but even then it was quite fast and smooth. After adding a copper shim and modifying the thermal configuration file I like it a lot more. Although it wasn't slow before it's now even smoother and faster. I have the AT&T 3GB version which seems to not suffer from the kind of lag the 2GB version initially had. I'm also really impressed at how many apps I can open without them closing in the background. Battery life is about the same as my Galaxy S4 with a 3000mah battery. It really depends on what you do. It has great standby time but if you push it really hard like a complex 3d game it may not be so great. On normal use I get about 4 to 5 hours of on screen time. Mine also came with light yellowish tint that really wasn't very obvious unless I had a white or grey background. I still asked AT&T for a replacement and the new one came with a much even toned display and no more yellow.

dimex said:
So we've all read and watched review after review of the laggy, thermal throttling, flop of a device the G Flex 2 is. Nonetheless, I'm still interested in this device, and I do not know why. Maybe because I enjoy tinkering and using tech that others don't. Maybe because reading some owners' reviews here seem to paint a different picture.
Are you happy with this device and feel a lot of the issues were addressed?
The only thing holding me back is the total lack of a dev community. This seems to be held up by a current un-unlockable bootloader, correct? I really don't like skinned Android, but have honestly never used LG's skin before. If a CM or stock port could be guaranteed I think I'd pull the trigger on this.
Thoughts?
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Best thing to do is wait a bit if you can, just to see if development picks up.

Thanks everyone for your feedback. Ya, this phone interested me for some reason.
I'll keep checking back.

My 50 cent's
G3 is a little smaller with same screen size, a lot better resolution (i can see pixels on G Flex2 from close distance) on a nearly half the price, so it is up to You
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G3 is looking better (but this is personal teist)
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I have G3 and from 2 days is using Flex2

I love the Flex 2. it's a great phone. i am using it since release in Germany and in the first two weeks it gets very fast very hot, but since an update everything is fine. Great battery life, a lot of Power. But if i can change it, i would pick the 3GB RAM model

I dont have the phone either so im in the same boat as you. I would wait for the g4 to come out not just because its going to be an amazing phone. But if lg is using some unlockable bootloader they will probably use it on the g4 as well and if that happens it will get unlocked much faster since its a flag ship. With any luck then that can be applied to the g flex and cm for all.

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I love the Flex 2. it's a great phone. i am using it since release in Germany and in the first two weeks it gets very fast very hot, but since an update everything is fine. Great battery life, a lot of Power. But if i can change it, i would pick the 3GB RAM model
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I also have the 2gb ddr4 version. The 3gb version has ddr3 or ddr4?

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I also have the 2gb ddr4 version. The 3gb version has ddr3 or ddr4?
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I didn't think the Snapdragon 810 could use anything but DDR4. Honestly I don't think there's a way to tell but considering how much the 3GB version costs as well I would assume it does have DDR4.

you are probably right! I just couldn't confirm it 100% the reason that the difference doesn't show up in benchmarks maybe be fault in memory controller. lol

I got a really good price for the phone so I'm biased. That being said I did go for the phone because of the design itself and it's not a choice that I regret.
For the first couple of days having the phone I did experience the overheating issue. I tend to back up my devices and reset them often and in this case I found that a full factory restore solved the overheating issue.
As for the lag it's noticeable from time to time if you have multiple things going on at once like playing a game while downloading files while streaming music.
As stated earlier with the g4 right around the corner I was certainly wait and see how that one pans out giving its going to have that much better of a system on the inside, and possibly the ability to use custom roms, which I do miss.
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I had the LS996 (32GB/2GB) version of G Flex 2. It is freakin terrible. If I wasn't so busy this past month, I would've traded it in. It was so bad that I spent a hundred dollars and got a GS5. Even after the ZV5 update and the thermal and hotplug mods I've made, it still over heated, froze, and lagged... I called it quits when I started having to do a force shut down (holding the power button until the phone turns off).

I have the 32GB / 2GB model. In my experience, the screen is a little grainy, but I'm fine with it. With the latest 10d update, the phone is a lot cooler, although it will still thermal throttle after some usage. Performance is a lot better as well, but it still can be improved. It continues to freeze in Chrome, so I use the stock web browser that comes with it. When the phone is hot, browsing through menus becomes sluggish and slow, something I really hope they will fix. Battery life is okay, but when you start playing games, or do any processor intensive stuff, it becomes real bad. (Probably the Snapdragon 810's fault) Camera photos are a little washed out, not as sharp as other phone cameras out there, but it produces very vibrant colours. Focusing is a little slow at times, laser focus not working too well, especially up close to an object. The self-healing back isn't doing a very good job. Just being in my pocket (with nothing else) and placing the phone on some tables, it has collected up many scratches. Screen brightness doesn't go very low, so I use an app called Lux to take care of that.
The Dual Window feature is limited to certain apps, unlike Samsung's Multi-Window, but at least it's there. QSlide is useless for me, and so is Quick Memo. Knockcode, on the other hand, is nice to have, very convenient to unlock the phone with one hand. But if you happen to use face unlock, it might interfere with knock code, and you might end up just locking the phone by using the double tap feature, since the phone unlocks when you are still knocking the code.
It's still running Android 5.0.1, so I hope all of this can change with the 5.1 update or when Android M gets released in the future.
I got this phone, because I wanted to try something new. It's a curved screen that can bend, of course it would catch my eye. Even hearing about all the overheating problems, I decided to invest in this two years journey with this phone. Overall, I regretted, an S6 is a better choice in my opinion, it runs a lot better. But if you are all-in for the curved screen, I suggest you wait a while more to see how this phone performs in future updates.

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I have the 32GB / 2GB model. In my experience, the screen is a little grainy, but I'm fine with it. With the latest 10d update, the phone is a lot cooler, although it will still thermal throttle after some usage. Performance is a lot better as well, but it still can be improved. It continues to freeze in Chrome, so I use the stock web browser that comes with it. When the phone is hot, browsing through menus becomes sluggish and slow, something I really hope they will fix. Battery life is okay, but when you start playing games, or do any processor intensive stuff, it becomes real bad. (Probably the Snapdragon 810's fault) Camera photos are a little washed out, not as sharp as other phone cameras out there, but it produces very vibrant colours. Focusing is a little slow at times, laser focus not working too well, especially up close to an object. The self-healing back isn't doing a very good job. Just being in my pocket (with nothing else) and placing the phone on some tables, it has collected up many scratches. Screen brightness doesn't go very low, so I use an app called Lux to take care of that.
The Dual Window feature is limited to certain apps, unlike Samsung's Multi-Window, but at least it's there. QSlide is useless for me, and so is Quick Memo. Knockcode, on the other hand, is nice to have, very convenient to unlock the phone with one hand. But if you happen to use face unlock, it might interfere with knock code, and you might end up just locking the phone by using the double tap feature, since the phone unlocks when you are still knocking the code.
It's still running Android 5.0.1, so I hope all of this can change with the 5.1 update or when Android M gets released in the future.
I got this phone, because I wanted to try something new. It's a curved screen that can bend, of course it would catch my eye. Even hearing about all the overheating problems, I decided to invest in this two years journey with this phone. Overall, I regretted, an S6 is a better choice in my opinion, it runs a lot better. But if you are all-in for the curved screen, I suggest you wait a while more to see how this phone performs in future updates.
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For the dual window there is a mod if you check the android developement thread. It needs editing build. prop. It works ok as far as i experienced.

kutulu32 said:
For the dual window there is a mod if you check the android developement thread. It needs editing build. prop. It works ok as far as i experienced.
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Yeah, was using it until the 10d update. There seems to be a problem during the rooting process after the update, so I can't use the mod now.

Me and my S6 " The love hate love relationship"

I've always had an android phone. My love relationship with them started with Verizon and the Moto Droid. Needless to say flashing roms and rooting phones is part of the reason I but phones.
I'm not a big fan of the progressive size increase in cell phones, but I owned a fee large phones. My wife got and iphone 6 dividing our house a few months ago and while I would not get an iPhone, I marvelled at how is was small and manageable. Yet able to perform any task and take great pictures.
So I sold MY white LG g3 to get a blue 64gb S6. I rooted it immediately and it was quite impressive. It offered all of the things I like about the iPhone 6 and a great fingerprint scanner. I have two young boys and a selfish obsessed wife and the cameras on this phone are great. So great my wife takes pictures with my phone when we are out.
One day I decide I want a white S6. So I purchased one on Swappa.com and sold mine there as well. I confirmed that it still had a root able version of lollipop, but when I get the phone the seller upgraded the phone the day he shipped it. So I tried to rock with the unrootable S6 checking everyday to see if OF1 version of lollipop had been rooted. I hated the phone. For anyone that is stuck with a S6 on stock OF1, I understand your pain. In my opinion Samsung is losing money because of restrictions on the stock version of this phone. So I'm currently selling that phone on Swappa.com for reasonable price.
I went and purchased a gold 64gb S6 and it came rooted and the feel if the phone is night and day. The speed it just how I remember the phone a drunken my battery life is sick. With stock OF1 I would only average 11-14 hours with maybe 2-3 hours of screen time. This is my first day with the rooted s6 and I'm currently at 11 hours and 2 hours of screen time with a few restarts to flash different themed items and I still have over 40% of battery life left.
My recommendation is that of you love the form factor of this phone and everything else it has to offer and you are stuck on OF1 version of lollipop, sell your phone to get a root able version of the s6. You will practically break even with the swap.
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I've always had an android phone. My love relationship with them started with Verizon and the Moto Droid. Needless to say flashing roms and rooting phones is part of the reason I but phones.
I'm not a big fan of the progressive size increase in cell phones, but I owned a fee large phones. My wife got and iphone 6 dividing our house a few months ago and while I would not get an iPhone, I marvelled at how is was small and manageable. Yet able to perform any task and take great pictures.
So I sold MY white LG g3 to get a blue 64gb S6. I rooted it immediately and it was quite impressive. It offered all of the things I like about the iPhone 6 and a great fingerprint scanner. I have two young boys and a selfish obsessed wife and the cameras on this phone are great. So great my wife takes pictures with my phone when we are out.
One day I decide I want a white S6. So I purchased one on Swappa.com and sold mine there as well. I confirmed that it still had a root able version of lollipop, but when I get the phone the seller upgraded the phone the day he shipped it. So I tried to rock with the unrootable S6 checking everyday to see if OF1 version of lollipop had been rooted. I hated the phone. For anyone that is stuck with a S6 on stock OF1, I understand your pain. In my opinion Samsung is losing money because of restrictions on the stock version of this phone. So I'm currently selling that phone on Swappa.com for reasonable price.
I went and purchased a gold 64gb S6 and it came rooted and the feel if the phone is night and day. The speed it just how I remember the phone a drunken my battery life is sick. With stock OF1 I would only average 11-14 hours with maybe 2-3 hours of screen time. This is my first day with the rooted s6 and I'm currently at 11 hours and 2 hours of screen time with a few restarts to flash different themed items and I still have over 40% of battery life left.
My recommendation is that of you love the form factor of this phone and everything else it has to offer and you are stuck on OF1 version of lollipop, sell your phone to get a root able version of the s6. You will practically break even with the swap.
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I've been thinking of selling my rooted S6 so I can leave Verizon. I didn't see any other White 64GB S6s that were rooted on Swappa so I wonder if there's a decent demand.

I love almost e everything about the phone and it is rooted the biggest main issue i have is it lags alot for me. Yes i have a decent amount of apps but my m8 is set up exactly the same and it doesn't lag at all even with just 2 gigs of ram. And my other issues which this is mainly because of verizon is development is almost not there. I am grateful for the roms we do have but it still takes away from the phone for me somewhat.
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I HATE my s6. The cell reception is fine, I'm lucky enough to be rooted as well, but this thing is junk IMO. Don't get me wrong, the camera is ok and it was the primary reason to get this phone. I use it daily for pictures and it performs pretty well actually. The fingerprint reader works pretty fast most of the time as well, but I would absolutely 100% not buy this phone again or recommend it to anyone else. Even during pictures this thing is hot and battery life is unimpressive. Yes wireless charging is included, but once again super hot while charging as well.
Battery life got much better after root and the screen is amazing, but I'm jumping ship here in a few months, I actually consider it a downgrade from my LG G2 except for the camera

I miss my HTC ONE M8. Totally rootable, totally customizable. Love the specs on the S6, but Verizon is making a huge mistake locking their phones down. It's the antithesis of Android, Linux, and open source in general.
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I HATE my s6. The cell reception is fine, I'm lucky enough to be rooted as well, but this thing is junk IMO. Don't get me wrong, the camera is ok and it was the primary reason to get this phone. I use it daily for pictures and it performs pretty well actually. The fingerprint reader works pretty fast most of the time as well, but I would absolutely 100% not buy this phone again or recommend it to anyone else. Even during pictures this thing is hot and battery life is unimpressive. Yes wireless charging is included, but once again super hot while charging as well.
Battery life got much better after root and the screen is amazing, but I'm jumping ship here in a few months, I actually consider it a downgrade from my LG G2 except for the camera
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Lol wat? You absolutely hate the phone because it gets hot? That's like the only negative thing you said

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Lol wat? You absolutely hate the phone because it gets hot? That's like the only negative thing you said
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Yea I guess I should of clarified on that one, it was a long day
-The lack of a removable battery is a killer. My battery drain is pretty serious and needs charging throughout the day. Eventually I will need to swap that battery....
-My two S6s have both lagged from day 1. Removing bloatware helped but still laggy. Have to clear our app caches once a week or so.
-The camera lens is elevated from the back of the phone and makes it not lay flat well. Not a biggie, but annoying.
-Touchwiz.... I hoped we would have CM by now or something close but its a big setback.
Most of the other issues I have are software related and would be fine when/if we can unlock the bootloader. I've come to learn over the years that a waterproof phone is a big advantage here in Florida too, my gf's old S5 was actually just used during the last flood we had and was great. I guess I agree with the OP, it is a love/hate, just mine is more hate than love.

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Yea I guess I should of clarified on that one, it was a long day
-The lack of a removable battery is a killer. My battery drain is pretty serious and needs charging throughout the day. Eventually I will need to swap that battery....
-My two S6s have both lagged from day 1. Removing bloatware helped but still laggy. Have to clear our app caches once a week or so.
-The camera lens is elevated from the back of the phone and makes it not lay flat well. Not a biggie, but annoying.
-Touchwiz.... I hoped we would have CM by now or something close but its a big setback.
Most of the other issues I have are software related and would be fine when/if we can unlock the bootloader. I've come to learn over the years that a waterproof phone is a big advantage here in Florida too, my gf's old S5 was actually just used during the last flood we had and was great. I guess I agree with the OP, it is a love/hate, just mine is more hate than love.
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I agree with the camera lens. I like cases but hate that I need a case to protect that.
My battery gets me through and average day. But that is always a user experience. I can see how it wouldn't be enough for many users.
I've never hated it but there are days where I am less impressed than others. Where TouchWiz shows its ugly side. Hopefully whenever you get next works out better for you

dispozable said:
Yea I guess I should of clarified on that one, it was a long day
-The lack of a removable battery is a killer. My battery drain is pretty serious and needs charging throughout the day. Eventually I will need to swap that battery....
-My two S6s have both lagged from day 1. Removing bloatware helped but still laggy. Have to clear our app caches once a week or so.
-The camera lens is elevated from the back of the phone and makes it not lay flat well. Not a biggie, but annoying.
-Touchwiz.... I hoped we would have CM by now or something close but its a big setback.
Most of the other issues I have are software related and would be fine when/if we can unlock the bootloader. I've come to learn over the years that a waterproof phone is a big advantage here in Florida too, my gf's old S5 was actually just used during the last flood we had and was great. I guess I agree with the OP, it is a love/hate, just mine is more hate than love.
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Get a battery case. It's the only way.
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Yea it seems so I'm only stuck with it for a few more months and the gf and I are both bailing. Its a shame too because these phones are damn sexy too lol. Right now I'm stocked up on wireless chargers and have them strategically placed around work and home and it seems to be working out ok. Its not too terrible since there are no plugs to charge.

Came from a rooted s4 with xposed to the g6 and I feel lost. The g6 gets good battery life and works just fine but I am having major Bluetooth issues between that and sync for my car that I never had with the s4. I will do better research before making my next purchase. I don't care how good the camera is etc... If the boot loader is locked down I will purchase a different phone. Not everyone wants to use samsungs bloat ware. Also if I want to turn the volume up and blow my ear drums out I don't need a visible warning to appear telling me I might do that....I can hear just fine Samsung....

PhallusOfGod said:
Get a battery case. It's the only way.
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Came from a rooted s4 with xposed to the g6 and I feel lost. The g6 gets good battery life and works just fine but I am having major Bluetooth issues between that and sync for my car that I never had with the s4. I will do better research before making my next purchase. I don't care how good the camera is etc... If the boot loader is locked down I will purchase a different phone. Not everyone wants to use samsungs bloat ware. Also if I want to turn the volume up and blow my ear drums out I don't need a visible warning to appear telling me I might do that....I can hear just fine Samsung....
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I'm pretty sure the BT is a known issue. Does anyone know if the update fixes that? I know I cant get more than 5m or so from my phone before it cuts out. I used to get almost double that with my G2. I agree with you on the headphones warning too lol. Almost as bad is the Verizon crap it tries to install each time you hook it up to a computer. I flashed the fix but it sure was annoying waiting on root first. Guess we can blame V for the bloatware too.