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[Q] Possible to backup the Stock firmware on Z3?

Since we have no root, is it possible to backup the Stock 23.0.A.2.93 firmware?
I did try a adb backup command on the Z1, but dont know if it works on Z3.

Nepturion said:
Since we have no root, is it possible to backup the Stock 23.0.A.2.93 firmware?
I did try a adb backup command on the Z1, but dont know if it works on Z3.
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Follow this great GUIDE by Apollo89 and be sure to hit him a thanks!

Flava0ne said:
Follow this great GUIDE by Apollo89 and be sure to hit him a thanks!
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Sorry dude, but im not thanking him, this is changing the build.prop so i need to be rooted....
This is not what im looking for.

Nepturion said:
Sorry dude, but im not thanking him, this is changing the build.prop so i need to be rooted....
This is not what im looking for.
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You don't need to be rooted, I backed up my carrier's stock firmware using his method with PC Companion and Flashtool before flashing my Z3 with a Generic firmware.

Flava0ne said:
You don't need to be rooted, I backed up my carrier's stock firmware using his method with PC Companion and Flashtool before flashing my Z3 with a Generic firmware.
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Well there is no point in using it since there is a new update for this phone.
Available: 23.0.1.A.5.77
Current: 23.0.1.A.2.93
Since I just bought the phone I havent been able to use the repair function on Companion to create an FTF.
I have created an FTF on 23.0.1.A.5.77, but I need the Stock Factory firmware that came with the phone.

Nepturion said:
Well there is no point in using it since there is a new update for this phone.
Available: 23.0.1.A.5.77
Current: 23.0.1.A.2.93
Since I just bought the phone I havent been able to use the repair function on Companion to create an FTF.
I have created an FTF on 23.0.1.A.5.77, but I need the Stock Factory firmware that came with the phone.
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Ahh okay, for 23.0.1.A.2.93 then? If PC Companion is only showing you 23.0.1.A.5.77 now then yeah that guide won't be much help.

Flava0ne said:
Ahh okay, for 23.0.1.A.2.93 then? If PC Companion is only showing you 23.0.1.A.5.77 now then yeah that guide won't be much help.
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Yes, it wont help at all, the only way is to make a full copy by rooting 23.0.1.A.2.93 + Recovery or use an adb backup on this firmware.
But I cant find that software again and would like to have a firmware from my region in case I need this firmware to root.

Nepturion said:
Yes, it wont help at all, the only way is to make a full copy by rooting 23.0.1.A.2.93 + Recovery or use an adb backup on this firmware.
But I cant find that software again and would like to have a firmware from my region in case I need this firmware to root.
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hyelton's Stock Firmware Thread in the General section doesn't have it?

Flava0ne said:
hyelton's Stock Firmware Thread in the General section doesn't have it?
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It does, but when I flash like I did with Z1, my WiFi is ****, my 3G signal sucks and get updates late.
So would like to have a phone that isnt downloaded from a Telenor provider, would like to have it by region.
The cust codes and signals doesnt match my stock, which is a lot better than Telenor provider.

Nepturion said:
It does, but when I flash like I did with Z1, my WiFi is ****, my 3G signal sucks and get updates late.
So would like to have a phone that isnt downloaded from a Telenor provider, would like to have it by region.
The cust codes and signals doesnt match my stock, which is a lot better than Telenor provider.
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Yeah, I know what you mean, after I flashed my Z3 with the Global Generic fw from his thread my signals weren't as good as when I had my carriers fw. So it was a good thing that I backed it up cause that's what I'm using again ATM.

You might want to check out this thread.

Couple of questions about Lollipop update

Hi guys,
so as you are receiving Android 5.0.2 I spoke with my carrier today to find you that they are still waiting for Sony to provide the test software. This means more waiting for me. I'm thinking of updating following this manual - http://techbeasts.com/2015/03/16/update-sony-xperia-z3-compact-d5803-official-android-502-lollipop-231a0690-firmware-how-to/
Before I do it I have a few questions:
1. When I update using this method am I going to lose all the apps and setting that I'm using now?
2. If I choose sets say the german version of 5.0.2, does this mean that in the future I will receive OTA updates alongside the phones running this version out of the box?
Thanks in advace.

shtepsel said:
Hi guys,
so as you are receiving Android 5.0.2 I spoke with my carrier today to find you that they are still waiting for Sony to provide the test software. This means more waiting for me. I'm thinking of updating following this manual - http://techbeasts.com/2015/03/16/update-sony-xperia-z3-compact-d5803-official-android-502-lollipop-231a0690-firmware-how-to/
Before I do it I have a few questions:
1. When I update using this method am I going to lose all the apps and setting that I'm using now?
2. If I choose sets say the german version of 5.0.2, does this mean that in the future I will receive OTA updates alongside the phones running this version out of the box?
Thanks in advace.
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I would just point out that that thread you linked to states that it is specifically for the Z3c. That is a different device to the Z3
However, you can just flash a FTF for the Z3 found in flashtool (Or the mega collection thread) using flashtool.
You will lose all data on your phone unless you choose to not wipe data.
You will receive updates as if you had the phone with the firmware you install on it.
But you can always flash the FTF for your carrier once it comes out
Greg

Thanks Greg.
So there is a way to avoid wiping the phone when updating with flashtool ?

shtepsel said:
Thanks Greg.
So there is a way to avoid wiping the phone when updating with flashtool ?
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Untick the box that says wipe data
If you get a load of FCs after the phone boots you will have to re-flash and then wipe data

I think I got it, but I would have to read a bit more before flashing.
Thanks again

Are there any disadvantages to flashing a different version of the firmware?
For example, I'm with Three, and although they now pride themselves on their phones being unlocked, they've still put their bloody splashscreen and other bits and pieces on the provided firmware on the phone! I'd rather have the generic UK version, but just making sure there'd be no issues with that.

None for me, My phone was with ROM for Mtel ( a Bulgarian carrier)that also claims the phone is unlocked. I flashed the central Europe ROM without any issues. Even kept all the files and apps from 4.4.4

Thanks for that, I'll have a look at some of the various firmwares available and make my choice!

XPERIA Z3v Unrooting Issues

So I recently rooted my XPERIA Z3v device, and I have decided to unroot it (don't bother trying to convince me to keep the root, I am far beyond your rhetorical questions) and I rooted with the mobile version of kingoapp.com root. When I attempt to unroot my device, neither the computer software nor the app itself are unable to unroot the device. Honestly, I regret ever rooting, and being the rookie I am, I just want to unroot my device so I can go about normal life.
Can someone please help me? I am on the edge of **** right now.

Flash a stock FTF using flashtool or force a software repair using PCCompanion

gregbradley said:
Flash a stock FTF using flashtool or force a software repair using PCCompanion
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Can you provide links for FTF and such? Sorry for the pestering, it's late at night and I just want to go to bed.
PC Companion refuses to acknowledge that the Z3v exists, Sony lacks support for it.

http://www.flashtool.net/index.php
You can download the FTF using flashtool as well.
I am pretty sure PCCompanion provides support for the Z3v

Trust me, the XPERIA Z3v lacks any support from Sony. It is basically the basterd child of the Sony smartphone division. Pc Companion won't work for this, I have tried many times.
As for the FTF, I don't see any D6708 model firmwares there, is my feeble newbie mind missing something?
On another note again, I will be willing to keep the root access, it's just that I attempt to replace the Kinguser SU app, and superSU can't seem to update it's binary to do so. Any help there?

NeonSuperWalrus said:
Trust me, the XPERIA Z3v lacks any support from Sony. It is basically the basterd child of the Sony smartphone division. Pc Companion won't work for this, I have tried many times.
As for the FTF, I don't see any D6708 model firmwares there, is my feeble newbie mind missing something?
On another note again, I will be willing to keep the root access, it's just that I attempt to replace the Kinguser SU app, and superSU can't seem to update it's binary to do so. Any help there?
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what firmware version are you looking for? LL or LP
Original KK firmware here: http://firmwaremobile.com/index.php/xperiadownload/file/262-z3-v
I can't find the LP leaked firmware. I believe you can download it using xperifirm and create the ftf using the flash tool.

I am looking for firmware 23.0.E.1.44. I found a supposed compatible firmware on Sony's website, but the boot unlocking and flashing seems to be a bit out of my range when it comes to understanding. (Kitkat 4.4.4)

NeonSuperWalrus said:
I am looking for firmware 23.0.E.1.44. I found a supposed compatible firmware on Sony's website, but the boot unlocking and flashing seems to be a bit out of my range when it comes to understanding. (Kitkat 4.4.4)
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can't unlock the bootloader on the z3v so don't worry about that. You'll have to use the flashtool to flash the KK firmware I linked above then take the OTA to .44

D6653 won't allow update to 6.0.1

Im in japan. my phone doesn't show ota for marshmallow, only for Sony bloatware. and pc companion on Mac says yes there is an update available... But then after about ten seconds the dialog box is replaced saying that I am running latest version available (though i have 5).
Same results when I tried VPN.
My phone is unlocked as originally purchased. I have a data sim.
Does it refuse because I have only 500mb on internal? There is no error message-it just changes its mind.
Any ideas? Just wait?
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gnormal said:
Im in japan. my phone doesn't show ota for marshmallow, only for Sony bloatware. and pc companion on Mac says yes there is an update available... But then after about ten seconds the dialog box is replaced saying that I am running latest version available (though i have 5).
Same results when I tried VPN.
My phone is unlocked as originally purchased. I have a data sim.
Does it refuse because I have only 500mb on internal? There is no error message-it just changes its mind.
Any ideas? Just wait?
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There is actually a mac version of Flashtool, but maybe not xpirifirm so you might have to find a pre-made FTF.
I guess you don't have root?
Update manually with Flashtool? Lots of guides available. Might not even have to make your own FTF file, but I recommend doing so if you can as then you know what is in it.
Essentially this is the same as using Sony software to do it, but you have more manual options. Download the files with xpirifirm, decrypt them with flashtool (not as complicated as it sounds), then it will make an ftf file for you which is the bit that contains all the system for the phone / update, then follow instructions to flash it onto the phone.
I'll look for a decent guide link.
My top tip is to make sure the TA partition stuff is excluded when you select what components to add to the ftf file to be safe, but flashtool should exclude this by default. And to make sure you download the software for your exact device so double check it when you choose
It really isn't as overwhelming as it may seem when you first look at it.
How to make the ftf: http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/08/1...re-files-using-xperifirm-and-flashtool-guide/
How to flash it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2697277
(Just ignore the parts telling you to download anything in the flashing guide as you got it from the "how to make" and obviously just replace that phone and firmware with your own)

Thanks. I have rooted and flashed a couple other phones but not Sony. I guess I would do that if it came down to it, but it shouldn't be necessary. With the z3 don't see the payoff for the risk. I can live with the bloatware.
More to the point this update should just work! Why isn't it?
If I use PC companion doesn't that get the update straight from Sony regardless of carrier? (I have no carrier, just a 3 month data sim)
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gnormal said:
Thanks. I have rooted and flashed a couple other phones but not Sony. I guess I would do that if it came down to it, but it shouldn't be necessary. With the z3 don't see the payoff for the risk. I can live with the bloatware.
More to the point this update should just work! Why isn't it?
If I use PC companion doesn't that get the update straight from Sony regardless of carrier? (I have no carrier, just a 3 month data sim)
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If I helped hit thanks
Something along the way is causing the problem. Tried reinstalling PC companion?
I say manual flash because that eliminates the variable that it's your phone causing the problem and also gets you updated as you wanted soooooo two birds with one stone
If you can't so it by PC I hope the phone eventually sorts itself out

Did you use xperia companion? If you used that, then there might be no update available yet for your phone, because xperia companion have a bug that shows an update is available, but there really is no update available.

Yes I'm using xperia companion. I guess I'm experiencing that bug you mention.
How can I establish if an update is available when I have no carrier? If I have no carrier then is it still dependant on the country I'm in? I know others have received the update for d6653 in other countries.
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DON'T upgrade to Nougat by OTA!

This has already discussed in other posts here BUT I continue to see A LOT of people waiting for Nougat OTA like Santa Claus should bring to them... (or, even worse, trying to push it in their phones... )
So, I make this post just to give more visibility to all...
I'll try to write it clear...
Don't update your Z to Nougat by OTA!
Is it clear enough? :laugh:
Now some explainations...
Over the the common generic motivations (difficulties when not in full stock conditions, risk to brick it during process, OTAs that are the Evil... ), there is a strong one in this case: Nougat OTA for Moto Z (silently...) upgrades your bootloader too, from v. 90.xx to v. 91.xx...
This isn't really needed (Nougat runs flawlessly on v.90.xx too... ) BUT it introduces some tighter rules on what you can and what you can't anymore boot on it, limiting hacking and upgrading (to developed third part ROMs...) possibilities...
One of this rules is that with v. 91.xx bootloader you can't anymore boot to MM ROM!
Considering that as of today it seems that bootloader can't be donwgraded (some have soft/hard bricked their Z trying to downgrade it...), Nougat upgrade by OTA is a one way process.
If you consider that stock Nougat seems to have some bugs and issues (and, as of today, no Xposed available...!) and that some (all?) third part Nougat ROMs requires "MM" (v. 90.xx) bootloader to work, it seems not to be a great idea leave that Motorola upgrades silently your bootloader...
So?
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...

I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?

xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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Considering we on the Moto Z droid don't have an unlockable bootloader and/or ability to root I don't see it effecting you negatively, other than an exploit that may be discovered for marshmallow that would allow for root. We are at the mercy of a kind developer taking on the task. I really miss my hotspot without a fee... But I can go back to my Moto X if it is necessary.

xterminater07 said:
I already did nougat via ota for my moto z droid... Does this affect anything? Also how do i flash a factory nougat on my moto z droid if i want to stsrt fresh?
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I agree with dap... proposed solution can't be used since of unlocked bootloader, BUT if I had a Droid I would have remained sticky to first SW release as long as possible because of the higher probabilities of a flaw to hack and root it...
With Nougat and newer (even more "locked"...) bootloader it will be harder...

those are a lot of steps... is there a way to just hide the nag/update screen that pops up? it keeps wanting to update or ask for a time to update or reminds me to update etc

enetec said:
So, at present, the best method (IMHO...) to upgrade to Nougat is that one which is described in OP of this thread: you will have a full stock Nougat BUT with older bootloader and the possibility to easily return to MM or to whatever ROM you want...
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Does the method you linked to even work with the VZW variant? It looks like it used to, but the Verizon stuff is all marked through and I'm not clear on the process.

hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...

aatjitra said:
hmmmfff... I have updated mine using OTA.. now I want to back to MM... but no way to do that...
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Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards

iron maiden said:
Hello did you try to get down to MM? Thank you
regards
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No. I didn't.
I read in other thread that bootloader v91 won't work with MM.

Moto Z ( UAE ) no OTA yet
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?

How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?

yanniclord said:
How can i disable the OTA Update app opening all the god damn time? I mean seriously, every time i lock the screen and turn it back on, it annoys me by saying i need to update to Android 7, I DON'T ****ING WANT TO! Can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable this?
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You can't. The only thing you *can* do is tap the "Later" and then "Done" buttons. That will defer it for another 24 hours since it automatically fills in the phone's current time for the next check.
It's annoying, but it's only once a day.
EDIT: I thought you were referring to the VZW variant. If you're not and your phone is rooted, you might be able to disable or remove "Motorola Update Services". To do so, go to Settings > Apps > select "Show system" from menu (3 dots at top right) > scroll down and tap "Motorola Update Services"
I can't disable it on my VZW unit, but you might be able to. Or maybe you can remove the app via root (though I have no idea if that will cause further problems).

I too can confirm thr disabling motoservice in settings method. But you have to do it everytime you reboot your phone, it does t hurt me doing that.

I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.

yanniclord said:
I found a simple fix, get Titanium Backup and freeze that crap app, done.
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There is another way for users with root eventually...

saif_khans said:
HI,
can anyone suggest which android 7 update is to be used for UAE users and how to install manually ?
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Simply use the method linked in OP. It uses retmx sw.

True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?

sam564 said:
True, I updated via Ota and now I can not install custom roms, will in the future have a solution to this problem? Because we all know that by unlocking the bootloader we lose the warranty, but we do this because we want to have options to install on our devices.
Could any dev have managed to fix this in the future roms?
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Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.

rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Variants doesn't matter all moto z is using same kernel source (I have Chinese moto z)
Let me explain, I'm trying to port farm-root for moto z
Here's the source : https://github.com/freddierice/farm-root
If anyone knows how to deal with ndk and other Stuffs, can install TWRP with this version of farm-root
But I'm trying to make it easier and here's big barrier called SELinux

rczrider said:
Which variant do you have? @erfanoabdi suggested in another thread that they might have root figured out for the VZW variant in the next couple of days. No idea if what they're working on will be applicable to the Nougat.
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Hope it happens. The phone (accidentally?) Downloaded the update and is now asking to install. I'm afraid one day it'll just automatically update on it's own.. I can't seem to find where the system update got downloaded to, otherwise I'd delete it