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Adreo 220 vs Mali-400..which one is faster and more powerful ??

guys..which one is faster and more powerful..Mali-400 or Adreno220 ??
my sensation running Android Revolution HD.. CPU overclocked to 1.5GHz and GPU overclocked..
i can't get scores like GS2 (stockROM) or better than him !!

If I'm not mistaken, the Areno 220 can push 1080p stereoscopic 3D.
The question is whether the manufacturers wrote drivers to help with the hardware acceleration, which is what Samsung did with the Exynos-Mali400. =)

PoisonWolf said:
If I'm not mistaken, the Areno 220 can push 1080p stereoscopic 3D.
The question is whether the manufacturers wrote drivers to help with the hardware acceleration, which is what Samsung did with the Exynos-Mali400. =)
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so Adreno 220 have great power ?? but i don't see the improve in games !!

-juanito- said:
so Adreno 220 have great power ?? but i don't see the improve in games !!
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Drivers. Like I said, drivers.

Read this, pretty informative http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined

jlevy73 said:
Read this, pretty informative http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined
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So Mali-400 better than Adreno 220 ??
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This site is also very informative http://www.droidgamers.com/index.ph...1661-dual-core-beasts-the-decision-to-buy-one

Mali-400 MP4 is better.

i have htc Sensation and i think Mali-400 is more powerful and faster
i installed Fruit Ninja HD Crazy (modded version to get alot from fruit in arcade mod) so in htc Sensation even with overclock i get lag..in SGS2 without custom rom it's so smooth
in quadrant i use advanced edition in 2D always i get like 330 and 3D i get from 600 to 1000 with overclock..in SGS2 without anything in 2D get 800 and 3D 1200 !!!

Is the Adreno 225 GPU up to the task?

Since we dont have the Tegra 3 Geoforce GPU for the fancy gaming, how is the new Adreno 225 handling high end games? Im interested to see if it plays Modern Combat 3 smoothly since my las phone (HTC Vivid 4.0 ICS) choked making it lag. If anyone has high end / graphically intensive games, please post the name and if it plays smoothly, decent, or lags, so the rest of us has an idea of what to expect. Thanks
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Only benches slightly lower then the tegra3, but with the extra power from the cpu I would say it balances out.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5779/htc-one-x-for-att-review/4

My older evo 3d with the adreno 220 had no problem with modern combat 3.. No lag whatsoever. 225 should be good for that and more
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Loneeagle14 said:
My older evo 3d with the adreno 220 had no problem with modern combat 3.. No lag whatsoever. 225 should be good for that and more
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The 225 and the 220 are basically the exact same, with DirectX support added to the 225. What makes the 225 in the S4 more powerful than the 220 used in many devices such as the evo 3d and the hp touchpad is the higher clock. Thanks to the 28nm process, the adreno can be clocked at 400mhz rather than 266. Nearly double.

ThisWasATriumph said:
The 225 and the 220 are basically the exact same, with DirectX support added to the 225. What makes the 225 in the S4 more powerful than the 220 used in many devices such as the evo 3d and the hp touchpad is the higher clock. Thanks to the 28nm process, the adreno can be clocked at 400mhz rather than 266. Nearly double.
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Soo, at what clock did HTC set adreno 225 at? Cause in S3 adreno 220 could perform at 320MHz, yet HTC underclocked it
Also have u tried playing Tegra 3 version of Shadowgun and Glow ball on it? How was the framerate?

Xdenwarrior said:
Soo, at what clock did HTC set adreno 225 at? Cause in S3 adreno 220 could perform at 320MHz, yet HTC underclocked it
Also have u tried playing Tegra 3 version of Shadowgun and Glow ball on it? How was the framerate?
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I think THD games are blocked in the market from installing on non Tegra devices.

I have played a few high end games and I have had no issues. I had a lot problems with Grand Theft Auto in the past. Some devices I had in the past played it but the game would be slower than it should be. With the LTE One X it played GTA on the highest settings without any issue. I played Ride Racer I think its called with the Jet skies and that played and looked great. Although my Galaxy Nexus played that game great too. I played Shadow Warrior with no problem either.
I'm not sure if I'm going to keep my One X though. It works great but I hate how locked down it is. I was spoiled by my Galaxy Nexus.
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i dont know about everyone else.. but it lags on temple run. fps drops when boosted, significantly.. sometimes when taking a turn it lagged so bad that my directional swipes are not even registered.

Do you think we could compile a list of graphically intensive games to test our handsets with?

tian105 said:
i dont know about everyone else.. but it lags on temple run. fps drops when boosted, significantly.. sometimes when taking a turn it lagged so bad that my directional swipes are not even registered.
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Just played Temple Run for 15 minutes straight, no lag whatsoever. Literally runs as good on my One X as it did on my iPhone 4S.
Modern Combat 3 runs pretty good as well, I have only noticed a couple very very slight stutters in about 2 hours of playing the campaign.

How did you get modern combat running? I can't even download it from market to be denied by the not compatible message lol
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irishnation09 said:
How did you get modern combat running? I can't even download it from market to be denied by the not compatible message lol
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go to www.gameloft.com from your phone. They have MC3, NOVA 2, DH2 and a couple other games.
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jeremyshaw said:
I think THD games are blocked in the market from installing on non Tegra devices.
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Cant u modify the apk file or install directly without use of android market cause im sure I've seen some overclocked Galaxy S2s running them on youtube?!

ThisWasATriumph said:
The 225 and the 220 are basically the exact same, with DirectX support added to the 225. What makes the 225 in the S4 more powerful than the 220 used in many devices such as the evo 3d and the hp touchpad is the higher clock. Thanks to the 28nm process, the adreno can be clocked at 400mhz rather than 266. Nearly double.
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Clocks are only 50% up but memory bandwidth which holding the 220 back is doubled. Meaning in practice the 225 is usually 60% - almost double of the 220 performance. Even my adreno 205 handles all games play with ease. 225 is frankly overkill for existing games at the moment. However the tegra3 and samsungs mali400 are far ahead when comes to decoding flash videos on youtube desktop page. They play 1080p flawlessly while the adreno 225 chokes on 480p.

Xdenwarrior said:
Cant u modify the apk file or install directly without use of android market cause im sure I've seen some overclocked Galaxy S2s running them on youtube?!
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They were probably using Chainfire 3D. It allows you to trick games and the market into thinking you have a tegra.
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I played Modern Combat 3 and had no problems.
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nativestranger said:
Clocks are only 50% up but memory bandwidth which holding the 220 back is doubled. Meaning in practice the 225 is usually 60% - almost double of the 220 performance. Even my adreno 205 handles all games play with ease. 225 is frankly overkill for existing games at the moment. However the tegra3 and samsungs mali400 are far ahead when comes to decoding flash videos on youtube desktop page. They play 1080p flawlessly while the adreno 225 chokes on 480p.
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its not that the 225 cant handle 1080p it sure can its just its just not being utilized properly due to crappy drivers/lack of proper hardware acceleration

joeyzadoe said:
its not that the 225 cant handle 1080p it sure can its just its just not being utilized properly due to crappy drivers/lack of proper hardware acceleration
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It can be due to the reasons you mentioned but it does not really matter. What we want is the end result and its not delivering in terms of flash performance.

nativestranger said:
Clocks are only 50% up but memory bandwidth which holding the 220 back is doubled. Meaning in practice the 225 is usually 60% - almost double of the 220 performance. Even my adreno 205 handles all games play with ease. 225 is frankly overkill for existing games at the moment. However the tegra3 and samsungs mali400 are far ahead when comes to decoding flash videos on youtube desktop page. They play 1080p flawlessly while the adreno 225 chokes on 480p.
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Whaat?? not even 720p videos that my 3 year old Symbian can play - if true then brutal!! it cant be hardware. must be drivers but why didn't anyone complain on this issue yet so that qualcomm hurries on fixing it
@Metalhead can u use Chainfire 3D and report on how well it runs on adreno

Gaming Phone

Dear Friends
I have HTC HD7 and i love it . I'm planning to buy a new gaming phone. Please suggest me a gaming phone which will cost in the range Rs.10k to Rs20k (180$ to 360$) or even more than that ?
Regards,
Karthikeyan (KaRty)

karthikeyan1990 said:
Dear Friends
I have HTC HD7 and i love it . I'm planning to buy a new gaming phone. Please suggest me a gaming phone which will cost in the range Rs.10k to Rs20k (180$ to 360$) or even more than that ?
Regards,
Karthikeyan (KaRty)
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Get the galaxy s3. Trust me. You will regret not getting it! In america, it has 1.5 GHz processor with 1 gig of ram. It's also quad core. Everywhere else in the world, it's 1.5 GHz with 2 gigs of ram. This one is dual core. This is currently the greatest phone available.
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Actually, the american version of the S3 has a dual-core and 2GB of RAM. The international version is the one with the quad-core and 1GB of RAM.
As for a gaming mobile, I guess the S3 would be a great choice. And there is also the Xperia Play, which is more like a real gaming cellphone and there are many games optimized for it, including PlayStation games. But I think it has a single core processor.

AnnS said:
Actually, the american version of the S3 has a dual-core and 2GB of RAM. The international version is the one with the quad-core and 1GB of RAM.
As for a gaming mobile, I guess the S3 would be a great choice. And there is also the Xperia Play, which is more like a real gaming cellphone and there are many games optimized for it, including PlayStation games. But I think it has a single core processor.
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I had the xperia play before this s3 and can guarentee that the s3 can play any game the xperia can if not as well, better.
Call of duty black ops zombies was released as "xperia play optimized" yet i have it on my s3 and xperia..s3 runs its so much smoother.
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Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.

u can try HTC evo 3D or SGSIII or HTC One X

vx117 said:
Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.
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Not true. tegra games actually make themselves play worse or with worse graphics when they detect you are not using a tegra CPU. If you trick the game into believing your processor is a tegra, then it will play with all the spoils.
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vx117 said:
Go with a HTC One X with the Tegra 3. Many games are optimized for Tegra processors as Nvidia has exclusive connections with them.
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.+1
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Adreno 225 at 720p and mali400?

Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy note (1) and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?

death_relic0 said:
Hey guys was hoping you could help me out since I am a big newbie when it comes to the mobile world
I am looking to buy a new phone, and one of the phones I've choosen to buy has adreno 225, 1.5ghz krait and 720p 4.7" screen (its the pantech (or SKY) a830l ).
Was hoping you guys could help me and let me know which games and/or apps (if any) I wont be able to run because of gpu bottle-neck on this resolution, and how future proof the adreno 225 will prove to be..
additionally, my alternative choice is htc One X
One X is almost twice the price of the pantechm , so I want to know whether its really worth it in terms of cpu and gpu power (ignoring the better screen for a bit).
Also, I've noticed that many 'very' powerful cell phones have mali400 (including galaxy nexus and SIII). I've heard people say that adreno 225 is better than mali400 AND that SIII outperforms in games cell phones with much more powerful graphics card. So now im really confused. Am I missing something?
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mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!

js2892 said:
mali 400 easily outperforms adreno 225... that's why it is in galaxy s3
and it has capability upto 4 cores so it is better
more comparable to it would be adreno 320!
the "pantech" one is a good choice if pricing suits you! You'll be able to play many games but i assume 1.5 ghz krait is either dual/quad core!! If yes you are good to go!
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thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)

death_relic0 said:
thanks for the reply, really appreciate the clarification.
Ive seen a couple of benchmarks but benchmarks are just benchmarks. Based on current games an apps, how many games and apps are there that wont be able to run because of the gpu? and can you give me some examples? hope I'm not asking too much :angel:
the pantech 830 is Super IPS LCD 720p (4.8"), krait dual core 1.5ghz and adreno 225
Samsung galaxy Note (N7000) is Super Amoled 720p (5.3"), cortex A-9, mali400, about 25% more expensive than the pantech
HTC One X is about twice the price of the pantech (and I really doubt I need the quad core)
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Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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js2892 said:
Well the pantech phone will run almost all games.. Games which have state of the art graphics like nova3,wild blood and latest nfs, asphalt releases might be a problem.. But those can also be made working by rooting and enabling hardware acceleration
Note and one x will run all games but i understand they are costly
Then again it comes to u, how much u want to pay!
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thanks for the reply..Im willing to spend more but I just dont want spend money on hardware which I wont be utilizing. Id like to game on my mobile, but not dying do and dont mind if a few games dont work. Prefer gaming on my PC in any case.
Just want to confirm that all apps would work and I could run 720p videos on the pantech smoothly.

Gta sa huge lag

hey guys im new here...
i just got my new phone zenfone go 5.5"
and downloaded ALOT of games and they all run lag free
so i decided to install gta sa on my phone that I saved on my pc
2 years ago and it installed perfectly....
when i open gta sa i was so excited but when i got in to the game it lags alot
even though my phone is powerful and my gpu is adreno 305
help me fix this
pls notice me....

Sorry to say this, but GTA SA is completely unplayable on your device. You have a device with a Snapdragon 400 CPU which is very low end by today's standards, your phone is definitely not powerful. You'll need a device with at least a Snapdragon 600 series CPU for a smoother experience.
Of all phones, why did you pick the Zenfone Go? For the same price or cheaper you can get a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro which has a Snapdragon 650.

Try lowering the graphical settings a bit. If it's even possible.

i lowered the settings as possible and its horrible but it gives me more fps thanks btw

SirSoviet said:
Sorry to say this, but GTA SA is completely unplayable on your device. You have a device with a Snapdragon 400 CPU which is very low end by today's standards, your phone is definitely not powerful. You'll need a device with at least a Snapdragon 600 series CPU for a smoother experience.
Of all phones, why did you pick the Zenfone Go? For the same price or cheaper you can get a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro which has a Snapdragon 650.
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i want to buy a powerful phone that can play all games but my uncle gave this phone as a gift for me this christmas so i dont want to spend money but im planning to buy another cheap phone which is lenovo a396i and it can run gta sa on the highest settings

SirSoviet said:
Sorry to say this, but GTA SA is completely unplayable on your device. You have a device with a Snapdragon 400 CPU which is very low end by today's standards, your phone is definitely not powerful. You'll need a device with at least a Snapdragon 600 series CPU for a smoother experience.
Of all phones, why did you pick the Zenfone Go? For the same price or cheaper you can get a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro which has a Snapdragon 650.
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I played GTA SA smoothly on single core 1ghz sp8810 processor.(mali 300 gpu)
I don't think there's a problem with processor.
Maybe there's a problem with the game or how he handles his phone.(maybe he has a lot of apppp installed which consumes huge ram)

BatDroid said:
I played GTA SA smoothly on single core 1ghz sp8810 processor.(mali 300 gpu)
I don't think there's a problem with processor.
Maybe there's a problem with the game or how he handles his phone.(maybe he has a lot of apppp installed which consumes huge ram)
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when i got the phone gta is the first game that i install and the gamr instantly lags alot

BatDroid said:
I played GTA SA smoothly on single core 1ghz sp8810 processor.(mali 300 gpu)
I don't think there's a problem with processor.
Maybe there's a problem with the game or how he handles his phone.(maybe he has a lot of apppp installed which consumes huge ram)
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http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Adreno-305.110715.0.html
Scroll down and see game performance benchmarks. If those games don't run that well, then GTA SA will run even worse.
Mali-300 is superior to the Adreno 305 too.

red22red said:
when i got the phone gta is the first game that i install and the gamr instantly lags alot
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please unistall and disable unnecessary apps to keep the phone clean and fast.
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SirSoviet said:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualcomm-Adreno-305.110715.0.html
Scroll down and see game performance benchmarks. If those games don't run that well, then GTA SA will run even worse.
Mali-300 is superior to the Adreno 305 too.
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Thanks for the info.
I guess I was wrong!
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red22red said:
hey guys im new here...
i just got my new phone zenfone go 5.5"
and downloaded ALOT of games and they all run lag free
so i decided to install gta sa on my phone that I saved on my pc
2 years ago and it installed perfectly....
when i open gta sa i was so excited but when i got in to the game it lags alot
even though my phone is powerful and my gpu is adreno 305
help me fix this
pls notice me....
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try gta sa older versions.
New versions will lag like hell.

i installed gta sa on my samsung galaxy v plus and it works perfectly i dont know why weaker phones can run this game

SirSoviet said:
Sorry to say this, but GTA SA is completely unplayable on your device. You have a device with a Snapdragon 400 CPU which is very low end by today's standards, your phone is definitely not powerful. You'll need a device with at least a Snapdragon 600 series CPU for a smoother experience.
Of all phones, why did you pick the Zenfone Go? For the same price or cheaper you can get a Xiaomi Redmi 3 Note Pro which has a Snapdragon 650.
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well it is surprising that it runs very smooth even on high graphics on my nokia 3 (which is cheaper than redmi notes 3 btw) but it terribly lags on my redmi 4a which has a better processor with higher clock speeds
i think the issue is that gta san andreas isnt optimised for snapdragon SoCs and only for meditek