Hi, to all. Greetings from Argentina.
I want to change the Rom of my tablet and get out from Samsung's Jelly Bean, and I am thinking about going the custom rom way.
I own a N8010 from early 2013, and lately I don’t use it a lot, but suddenly the rest of my family (wife and children) want to start using it, and honestly I do too.
The main use would be:
Surfing the web (Firefox)
Play games
Read e-books
Listening music (local and streaming)
Watching Movies/Youtube videos (not a lot)
Take pictures and record videos (ocasionally).
All the online activities are done via WIFI (because it is an N8010, only wifi model).
I don't mind losing the following functionalities
S-Pen, and all the apps related to it
S-Apps
Samsung multiwindow
I almost don’t use Bluetooth at all, neither advanced networking, just wifi access.
I need (if exists) a rom that provides this key functions:
Multiuser
Posibility to move apps to sd card (without root or link2sd, etc.)
A friend of mine have an LG G Pad 7 with LG stock Kitkat and it does have those 2 options.
So, I want to ask you, which would be the best rom that can fulfill these requirments:
Stock Samsung Kitkat - I guess not
A custom Rom based on Kitkat?
A custom Rom based on Lollipop?
CyanogenMod 11? (I know it's Kitkat too)
CyanogenMod 12 ?(I know it's Lollipop too)
Thanks in advance, and excuse my poor english.
Plurit said:
Hi, to all. Greetings from Argentina.
I want to change the Rom of my tablet and get out from Samsung's Jelly Bean, and I am thinking about going the custom rom way.
I own a N8010 from early 2013, and lately I don’t use it a lot, but suddenly the rest of my family (wife and children) want to start using it, and honestly I do too.
The main use would be:
Surfing the web (Firefox)
Play games
Read e-books
Listening music (local and streaming)
Watching Movies/Youtube videos (not a lot)
Take pictures and record videos (ocasionally).
All the online activities are done via WIFI (because it is an N8010, only wifi model).
I don't mind losing the following functionalities
S-Pen, and all the apps related to it
S-Apps
Samsung multiwindow
I almost don’t use Bluetooth at all, neither advanced networking, just wifi access.
I need (if exists) a rom that provides this key functions:
Multiuser
Posibility to move apps to sd card (without root or link2sd, etc.)
A friend of mine have an LG G Pad 7 with LG stock Kitkat and it does have those 2 options.
So, I want to ask you, which would be the best rom that can fulfill these requirments:
Stock Samsung Kitkat - I guess not
A custom Rom based on Kitkat?
A custom Rom based on Lollipop?
CyanogenMod 11? (I know it's Kitkat too)
CyanogenMod 12 ?(I know it's Lollipop too)
Thanks in advance, and excuse my poor english.
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To answer your questions:
There are no BEST ROM here.
Every ROM/Custom ROM has its own advantages.
Just try one & if it's good for you then stick with it.
If not, then try another.
"Every" Android version has multiuser ability as Android=Linux fork (At least Jelly bean is proven has multiuser, but without UI).
The only problem is the UI(User Interface) as not all Android version/ROM provide it.
I've tried multiuser in my GT-N8000 but then decided to remove it back to single user.
It consume my internal memory space too much.
Moving "apps" into microSD is a built in feature in Android, but not all app support this.
I also seen some ROM disabled it, so....again....try it yourself.
This built in "move to SD" feature has it own disadvantages though as some files are needed to be installed into internal memory it can cause the app size after moving it to SD will become slightly or significantly bigger around 10% - 40%.
And widget apps will be broken if you move it to SD.
By using ROOT,you can move it to SD without additional 10% - 40% size.
The method is called Mount Binding Folder.
Conclusion:
Read carefully before flashing any ROM
Avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight
Try it & if it suits you, use it as your daily driver
If not, try another
If you have any questions, ASK
....Again....avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight
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Hi,
Firstly I'm new to Android. I had an old Samsung Galaxy Ace (2.2) which was a piece of stink a few years ago. I moved over to Windows Phone for a bit buy I just killed my Lumia 820. So couple of days ago I grabbed a retail SIM-free 16 Gig Moto G from Amazon in the UK.
Inevitably this is stuffed full of Moto and Google crapware I'd like to get rid of so I'll probably unlock it, root it and install CM11 on it. I have very few app requirements - mainly an IMAP client, firefox, mp3 player, SSH terminal, calculator and offline OSM app. I don't want to sign into any accounts other than what I control (no google!) and will be deploying APKs directly. Few questions first:
1. Is there a known list of issues/bugs/problems with CM11 against this device? Can't find anything anywhere.
2. If I do this, can I get the existing moto firmware and bootloader back and lock it. If I have to do a warranty return due to a hardware problem I want to be able to return it despite the big scary warnings all over the Moto site
3. Is there a possibility I can brick the device or destroy the lowest level firmware/bootstrap. If so is there a recovery option for this. I don't want a paperweight?
4. Does USB OTG still work after CM11 update?
5. CM11 asks you to sign in looking at a couple of videos on startup. Do I need to do this?
6. Default CM11 after install - does it have a media player/music player or do I have to go find one?
7. Any gotchas I need to know about?
I've got a number of years experience with embedded ARM systems and known Linux inside out (including kernel) and write software for a living so this isn't something I'm going into blind so please don't hit me with the n00b stick.
chrissmeuk said:
Hi,
Firstly I'm new to Android. I had an old Samsung Galaxy Ace (2.2) which was a piece of stink a few years ago. I moved over to Windows Phone for a bit buy I just killed my Lumia 820. So couple of days ago I grabbed a retail SIM-free 16 Gig Moto G from Amazon in the UK.
Inevitably this is stuffed full of Moto and Google crapware I'd like to get rid of so I'll probably unlock it, root it and install CM11 on it. I have very few app requirements - mainly an IMAP client, firefox, mp3 player, SSH terminal, calculator and offline OSM app. I don't want to sign into any accounts other than what I control (no google!) and will be deploying APKs directly. Few questions first:
1. Is there a known list of issues/bugs/problems with CM11 against this device? Can't find anything anywhere.
2. If I do this, can I get the existing moto firmware and bootloader back and lock it. If I have to do a warranty return due to a hardware problem I want to be able to return it despite the big scary warnings all over the Moto site
3. Is there a possibility I can brick the device or destroy the lowest level firmware/bootstrap. If so is there a recovery option for this. I don't want a paperweight?
4. Does USB OTG still work after CM11 update?
5. CM11 asks you to sign in looking at a couple of videos on startup. Do I need to do this?
6. Default CM11 after install - does it have a media player/music player or do I have to go find one?
7. Any gotchas I need to know about?
I've got a number of years experience with embedded ARM systems and known Linux inside out (including kernel) and write software for a living so this isn't something I'm going into blind so please don't hit me with the n00b stick.
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1.Known issues for CM11 M5 here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon
2.You can relock the bootloader after flashing a stock ROM image.Anyway, if they want to deny you a warranty service, they will no matter what you do.
3.If you know what you're doing, you can't brick it by any means.Many ppl lacking the knowledge have got bootloops/bad fs on partitions and various other stuff, but as I said, it's mainly their fault.
4.OTG works on CM11, but it's buggy yet (kernel related), so it may be fixed sometime soon (it's in their known issues list).
5.CM(11) has Apollo as default music player, it's an OK one, but nothing that good.You can always get a Walkman port and use it.
7.hmmm.... don't go CM imo, just root the stock ROM and use it, it's way better than CM atm.Maybe someday CM11 will get better for the Moto G, but at this point it's not really worth it.
Thanks for your replies. I've unlocked and rooted it now. Decided I'm not concerned about the warranty. Spent the entire evening removing the Moto and Google crud from the stock 4.4.2 image it and it's working pretty well now. Will avoid CM11 until stable then will upgrade it.
chrissmeuk said:
Thanks for your replies. I've unlocked and rooted it now. Decided I'm not concerned about the warranty. Spent the entire evening removing the Moto and Google crud from the stock 4.4.2 image it and it's working pretty well now. Will avoid CM11 until stable then will upgrade it.
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you might find this useful. http://www.stargw.eu/1e8e1f20e4441f57b
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I have searched for this and I realize there are ROM managers but I'm definitely new to them. I'm expecting this to KIND of be a repeat question or something not specific to the Pro 12.2 but here goes.
I want to install CM 12 to use with my music apps for the low latency Samsung Pro Audio stuff (hoping CM includes that, I know it's a lollipop thing and it's on my Note4 which has stock L)
I want to run either hyperdrive or stock-rooted ROM for content consumption and everything else (since there's no 4-app multi window for CM 12) I'm often watching netflix while reading emails and copying/pasting between Chrome and Browser, so I really do use the 4 window thing all the time) Plus s-pen, s-note, etc.
But audio latency has been unusable for real-time MIDI keyboards and guitar amp modelling software with any ROMs I've tried so far (hoping CM will work, my Note 4's stock Lollipop works pretty good with audio stuff)
So I wanna know what is the easiest way to switch between ROMs. Ideally I don't want to manually create a full backup in Titanium right before flashing, I'm actually hoping there is something akin to "users" on Windows, where I can boot into one Rom and everything I have done, any files, any settings, all come back from the last time I shut it down, so I never have to actually back it up. So more like a dual boot. I want files and settings to be saved like they normally would. I'm guessing this would require a lot of room and I'd need to enable boot-from-sd-card if such a thing exists. I have a 128gb micro SD so I should have enough room.
I have the 64gb wifi version Note Pro (or I would have flashed the official lollipop already)
Not going to happen on the Note 12.2. What you need is TWRP with the MultiRom patch and a multirom patched kernel. It was tried for the 12.2 and abandoned. The problem is that is device has a very small user base so it does not get much development.
the problem that cost to much......
Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
The poor man's version of this, via TWRP, is to do restore/backups of one or more roms. It really does not take long to restore or to back up an entire setup, and doing it to an external microsd is the way to make it extra safe (in case you wipe your user data in error while installing a rom the first time). I don't even have my just-purchased Note Pro in hand yet, but have extensively rommed away on both my trusty Galaxy Note II phone and Asus TF700 tablet. In the phone's case, it is a tmobile phone stuck in jelly bean (ack!). So I have the jelly bean rom in case I want to play with the s-pen and a nice Oct-O lollipop rom I can switch to. Five minutes or so and I'm good. No idea what such an approach would work like on the Note Pro, but suspect it would be faster than the phone. If you knew all this, I apologize.
Blessings.
Friends,
Its been long while I turned my replacement tablet on. My requirements are clear:
1. I would like to use it as android box. Always connect through HDMI
2. Root the tab to get more control and include patch for my gamepad
3. OS should support HDMI and OTG Y CABLE
4. Always connected to WiFi - internet
5. Kill switch should never get activated
So, for these requirements, will a CUSTOM ROM works??? Will a custom ROM stop killing my tab. If so, plz suggest a custom ROM, if anyone is using.
I installed linux4tegra on this tab for now. I would like to install android in it.
Appreciate ur help in providing the answer.
I hope this thread can be useful to others.
Thanks,
SRIHARI
If you use HDMI then no custom ROM will work for you. Read the kill switch thread and be safe.
Thanks for your reply...
Hmmm... In that case, I use good one with HDMI and old one with custom ROM... Will that work.
I want internet on both laptops... And none should get killed...
Old tab with Custom ROM (it should not get killed at any time)
New tab with Stock ROM
I have my recalled Shield Tablet mounted in my truck as a music / video / audiobook / navigation device. It is currently running Trafalgar Square's AICP 7.1 N nightly ROM. Its constantly plugged in to USB power and I have had absolutely no issues with overheating. I made sure that there is plenty of airflow around it, and I never use it for resource hungry applications so I don't really worry about it. YMMV, but its a pretty awesome device for what I'm using it for.
The only way you'll get HDMI support as far as I know is to use Nvidia's original ROM, read the thread on killing the kill switch to find out which file to delete so your tablet doesn't get wiped. The only other thing I could think of if you want a custom ROM is to use DLNA to stream content...
HDMI out works fine on blisspop custom rom
Wow that's great to hear....
As of now I'm using cm13. And HDMI works as well, but no sound...
Nice 2 play with two tabs at once ...
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
Did you change the ROM in your device or only de-bloated it? Tell me your experience. Easy to install, need to root, unblock the bootloader, update, what is NOT working, speed, battery, ...?
I own a Samung Tablet S5e LTE few months old, under guaranty and would like to de-google it. I was thinking to change the ROM, is tit the best way?
What is your advice? If needed, what ROM to use? What way, software to de-bloat?
Many thanks
MrNice said:
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
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Fully agree with this.
Thank you for your fast answer.
Could you be more specific and tell me why, how (big picture) and if you have experience what tools did you use?
People most times use terms "De-google" and "De-bloat" not knowing what they are really speaking of.
The Vanilla Android ( read: AOSP - today often called GSI ) is totally free of apps developed by Google ( topic: GMS ) and the service ( GFS ) they need to run, this because NOBODY basically needs these to operate a phone. But the overwhelming majority of the users of mobile devices want an Android what is extended by features, so they can download & install more apps, play games, listen to music, watch porn videos. OEMs respect this wish - they want to sell their products - and therefore typically add GMS & GFS to their Android OS, so it in reality becomes a Custom ROM.
Resume: Vanilla Android - and all ROMS that are based on Vanilla Android ( like Lineage OS and many others ) must not get "De-googled".
Bloatware ( or Potentially Unwanted Programs - PUP ) is software users don’t want, that burdens and slows down a mobile device. It usually comes pre-installed by vendors, manufacturers or carriers. IMO "De-bloating" is the first thing a user should do when starting up a new device.
Bloatware typically is installed as system-app, hence phone's Android must got rooted before you can start "De-bloating".
As I am not very skilled in Android, I appreciate your post.
I installed LineageOS 17.1 on my Samsung S6, it working fine, I am happy for the usage but the only issue I have is that I can't update. This is another story in another XDA forum.
My need are usual plus
Read books, music sheets, social networks, Internet TV, news, training, conference (low bit-rate), email, messaging, GPS travel, basic pictures,
some specific app for music practice (tuner, metronome), veg gardening (I need to find one suitable for me).
but no game, no HD movie (download or stream), no large download
Backup locally (I need to learn more), no cloud usage.
As I run GNU/Linux for around 20 y, I hate to have to register for account in any app from GAFAM and I don't want as much as possible give them my data. I try to select the app without tracker, FOSS and I block the permissions as much as possible.
If I can de-google this is the best for my mindset.
I understand that de-google or de-bloat, I 'll have to root so break Knox. Right?
I don't know if I need GMS and/or GFS for my use. Could you tell me? For what app it is mandatory?
With my S5e I want to be more cautious, I need a way as secure as possible to not brick it.
With all these info, what do you advice?
MrNice said:
Hi there,
Few months ago, I was told in XDA site that nowadays changing the ROM is not anymore the best way to de-google a device. Now it is better to de-bloat and tweak the device.
Do you agree with this statement?
Did you change the ROM in your device or only de-bloated it? Tell me your experience. Easy to install, need to root, unblock the bootloader, update, what is NOT working, speed, battery, ...?
I own a Samung Tablet S5e LTE few months old, under guaranty and would like to de-google it. I was thinking to change the ROM, is tit the best way?
What is your advice? If needed, what ROM to use? What way, software to de-bloat?
Many thanks
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For the Tab S5e de-googling it is next to impossible with stock samsung rom. LOS works great on it and not too difficult to install, CRDroid works well on it but is better with google installed, /e/ rom was being developed for it but I don't know if they are still working on it. I built an /e/ rom locally for my Tab S5e last year and it worked very well. If you want to get away from google you need to ditch the OneUI or whatever they are calling it.
tek3195 said:
For the Tab S5e de-googling it is next to impossible with stock samsung rom. LOS works great on it and not too difficult to install, CRDroid works well on it but is better with google installed, /e/ rom was being developed for it but I don't know if they are still working on it. I built an /e/ rom locally for my Tab S5e last year and it worked very well. If you want to get away from google you need to ditch the OneUI or whatever they are calling it.
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Thanks for you advice, I'll work on it soon.
I am using Samsung A51 running on Android 12. My device is lagging since last few days. I want to debloat my device. I had debloated once, but it stopped working settings app when it was running on android 11.
I need the debloating list which don't crash any essential app.
Please help me.
hello, for more comfortable debloating i will recommend you to use ADBAppControl.
i do not know by what way i debloadted my phone, but in that programm you have a feature of backing up the .apk file of the application you uninstalled.
You can debloat your phone by this tactic
1. Debloat your phone without uninstalling system applications;
2. Debloat your phone by uninstalling samsung applications (samsung free, samsung galaxy friends);
* If you want more, you can follow this site: https://www.alliancex.org/shield/apps.html
or (i do not think, really) flash a custom ROM, like elementary OS
If it was help, let me know)
vmirrimv said:
hello, for more comfortable debloating i will recommend you to use ADBAppControl.
i do not know by what way i debloadted my phone, but in that programm you have a feature of backing up the .apk file of the application you uninstalled.
You can debloat your phone by this tactic
1. Debloat your phone without uninstalling system applications;
2. Debloat your phone by uninstalling samsung applications (samsung free, samsung galaxy friends);
* If you want more, you can follow this site: https://www.alliancex.org/shield/apps.html
or (i do not think, really) flash a custom ROM, like elementary OS
If it was help, let me know)
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Thanks a lot. I'll give a try.
Hello, by the way, now I want to go back to the custom ROM, and I may make a video about what I will be able to remove from the phone avoiding future bugs and problems. if you want
vmirrimv said:
Hello, by the way, now I want to go back to the custom ROM, and I may make a video about what I will be able to remove from the phone avoiding future bugs and problems. if you want
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Ok, give me the video link.
hello, wait about 30 minutes
THE video is done! But I am sorry about its quality
Leave a feedback, if it helps)
Just debloated by this way. But the ram usage is same.
i would say it is the problem of the ROM, because it uses another frameworks for modules of wi-fi, for example or of mobile communication.
When I used SuperiorOS, where the most programm part has been built as open-source, the usage was at least 2 times less.
But you should not only focus on RAM usage, because those apps drain you battery and internet traffic, too
vmirrimv said:
i would say it is the problem of the ROM, because it uses another frameworks for modules of wi-fi, for example or of mobile communication.
When I used SuperiorOS, where the most programm part has been built as open-source, the usage was at least 2 times less.
But you should not only focus on RAM usage, because those apps drain you battery and internet traffic, too
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Any bug free custom rom?
Sorry i did not get you, can you type it in another words?
Do you have any custom rom without any error/faults?
If you ask me, I do not have, but I can advise ROMs from another users of XDA
They are like SuperiorOS (with custom kernel installed, for avoiding MTP issue, with GAPPS), ElemantaryOS or Refined UI
Other ROMs I simply do not perceive as something needed to do so (because of its quality).
But you need understand, that nobody except of the manufacturer will create a bug-free OS for the certain phone, I think.
But custom ROMs like ElementaryOS and Refined UI ones seem to be a good choice, because they has been created by modifying the stock ROM
And there is also the question you need to ask youself: why do I need it?
If answers are like I want a faster experience or new features then I would say that it's not worth it
I think the problem is, that you do not want to use your device as it was intented to be, but you want to play with it by modifying and so one.
If it is, then I would say that this way of spending time is void and meaningless
vmirrimv said:
And there is also the question you need to ask youself: why do I need it?
If answers are like I want a faster experience or new features then I would say that it's not worth it
I think the problem is, that you do not want to use your device as it was intented to be, but you want to play with it by modifying and so one.
If it is, then I would say that this way of spending time is void and meaningless
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U didn't get me. I want a minimalistic lightweight OS with less ram and battery usage. I used elementary os running on android 11. I have come to stock rom for android 12. And i did very wrong.
So then, I will recommend you SuperiorOS, but there are some bugs with Bluetooth and MTP. Although, I think, there are no official supported custom ROMs for SM-A515F.
But if you want to flash this ROM on your phone, you will need to downgrade (roll back) your Android version to 11 (as I tried on 12th, it did not work).
vmirrimv said:
So then, I will recommend you SuperiorOS, but there are some bugs with Bluetooth and MTP. Although, I think, there are no official supported custom ROMs for SM-A515F.
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Can you give me the link please !!