I have searched for this and I realize there are ROM managers but I'm definitely new to them. I'm expecting this to KIND of be a repeat question or something not specific to the Pro 12.2 but here goes.
I want to install CM 12 to use with my music apps for the low latency Samsung Pro Audio stuff (hoping CM includes that, I know it's a lollipop thing and it's on my Note4 which has stock L)
I want to run either hyperdrive or stock-rooted ROM for content consumption and everything else (since there's no 4-app multi window for CM 12) I'm often watching netflix while reading emails and copying/pasting between Chrome and Browser, so I really do use the 4 window thing all the time) Plus s-pen, s-note, etc.
But audio latency has been unusable for real-time MIDI keyboards and guitar amp modelling software with any ROMs I've tried so far (hoping CM will work, my Note 4's stock Lollipop works pretty good with audio stuff)
So I wanna know what is the easiest way to switch between ROMs. Ideally I don't want to manually create a full backup in Titanium right before flashing, I'm actually hoping there is something akin to "users" on Windows, where I can boot into one Rom and everything I have done, any files, any settings, all come back from the last time I shut it down, so I never have to actually back it up. So more like a dual boot. I want files and settings to be saved like they normally would. I'm guessing this would require a lot of room and I'd need to enable boot-from-sd-card if such a thing exists. I have a 128gb micro SD so I should have enough room.
I have the 64gb wifi version Note Pro (or I would have flashed the official lollipop already)
Not going to happen on the Note 12.2. What you need is TWRP with the MultiRom patch and a multirom patched kernel. It was tried for the 12.2 and abandoned. The problem is that is device has a very small user base so it does not get much development.
the problem that cost to much......
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The poor man's version of this, via TWRP, is to do restore/backups of one or more roms. It really does not take long to restore or to back up an entire setup, and doing it to an external microsd is the way to make it extra safe (in case you wipe your user data in error while installing a rom the first time). I don't even have my just-purchased Note Pro in hand yet, but have extensively rommed away on both my trusty Galaxy Note II phone and Asus TF700 tablet. In the phone's case, it is a tmobile phone stuck in jelly bean (ack!). So I have the jelly bean rom in case I want to play with the s-pen and a nice Oct-O lollipop rom I can switch to. Five minutes or so and I'm good. No idea what such an approach would work like on the Note Pro, but suspect it would be faster than the phone. If you knew all this, I apologize.
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Hello all!
Over the past few months, I've noticed a few quirks that came with the ics os on the tablet (Camera freezing, usb drama, ect.); So I rooted it, and loaded cyanogen 9.1. The only problem now is that I enjoyed the stock samsung media player better than apollo or any of the other music apps out there. I've tried to load the .apk and system files, but it fails to install every time.
Any information why or why not this is possible is greatly appreciated.
(If it matters, its the GT-P5113, but I doubt that has anything to do with it)
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Hello all!
Over the past few months, I've noticed a few quirks that came with the ics os on the tablet (Camera freezing, usb drama, ect.); So I rooted it, and loaded cyanogen 9.1. The only problem now is that I enjoyed the stock samsung media player better than apollo or any of the other music apps out there. I've tried to load the .apk and system files, but it fails to install every time.
Any information why or why not this is possible is greatly appreciated.
(If it matters, its the GT-P5113, but I doubt that has anything to do with it)
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The stock rom and the CM rom have different framework.
The stock apps tend to need custom libs added to the ROM in order to run the apps. This is done on purpose to specifically prevent you from doing what you're trying to do, which is take Samsung's apps and put them on another device. (I know it's the same device, but it's no longer a Samsung device for all intents and purposes.) They didn't do this to stop you from using their apps on custom ROMs so as much as to stop you from taking their apps and putting them on say an HTC device. Their apps only work on stock Samsung ROM's so you hav eto buy a Samsung device in order to use their apps that you want. All phones and tablets with custom version of Android are set up like this, with the exception of the Google Nexus devices that are bone stock Android.
Apps from stock roms can be ported sometimes, but it takes a lot of work and a lot of developer know how to figure our how to port the libs and make them compatible with the customer ROM. It's not as simple and just copying files.
In other words, get used to a different media player. You're not ever going to see the stock one on a CM rom.
Thta said, you don't have to use the one that came with CM either. There are like 9 billion media players on the Play Store. Try a bunch out. You may find one you like even better than the stock Samsung one.
I got my S2 on Tuesday and thought that the default firmware had a few shortcomings. Hence I took the stock English firmware and tweaked it to my needs.
Maybe you will find my ROM useful too.
So, what I changed:
Enlarged the data partition to 2.5GiB. I did this for two reasons. Obviously one is so we can get more space for apps. The other is that inside the /data partition are not only stored apk files, but the application's data files (which get written and read frequently). When a partition on a flash disk gets full, it also gets slow. So hopefully with 2.5GiB you will always have enough free space to keep performance up.
Rooted and the new, open source Superuser included.
Replaced the default launcher with the latest Nova Launcher.
Included Titanium Backup.
Changed the read ahead of the flash memroy to 1024KiB from the default 128KiB. While there isn't an overall best setting, I feel that this helps a lot with Chrome, which had huge delays while trying to load a page from its cache.
Changed the default io_scheduler to deadline. it gives better responsiness.
Default notification ringtone changed to something that won't cause heart attacks.
I added proper OTG support. Our tablet supported usb devices only on the OS level and not on the Android apps' level. So while a hardware keyboard would work, camera tethering with DSLR Controller wouldn't. Maybe Pipo did that because the tablet's usb system isn't solid. USB OTG doesn't work always, but at least it always works after a reboot for me and it is awesome to control my DSLR from the tablet.
Added support for cifs (smb).
Removed some apps and widgets which I think aren't that useful.
You can flash it with RKBatchTool. The first boot will take a bit more time until it gets to the launcher screen.
There may be some S2 tablets with a newer front camera module. If that's your case, your front camera may not work.
Pipo-S2-20121123-DS803H-mrsaccess-v1.40
Part1: http://hotfile.com/dl/197646869/89622a6/Pipo-S2-20121123-DS803H-mrsaccess-v1.40.part1.rar.html
Part2: http://hotfile.com/dl/197645382/049223e/Pipo-S2-20121123-DS803H-mrsaccess-v1.40.part2.rar.html
if you know a better host, please suggest
Disclaimer: If you break it, you keep it. I won't take responsibility for broken tablets.
I got CWM on my Pipo s2. I can install the ROM through there, yes?
Also, think we can see CM 10 on it anytime soon?
This ROM can only be flashed with the official tools, it doesn't support CWM, nor it installs it. If you flash it, you will lose CWM.
As for CM, I don't think we will ever see it. Chinese vendors do not give much information or any source code, so it is practially impossible to do a port.
Some guy started working on a CM port for RK3066 devices, but as far as I know he hadn't much success other than a very alpha rom for his device (not the S2).
Ah I see. Well thank you very much for providing this ROM! Is there any way you can provide a short step by step tutorial? I've downloaded the rkbatchtool but alittle unsure of how to proceed.
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hi mrsaccess, still possible to get new links for the custom S2 rom ? thx in advance.
Hi, to all. Greetings from Argentina.
I want to change the Rom of my tablet and get out from Samsung's Jelly Bean, and I am thinking about going the custom rom way.
I own a N8010 from early 2013, and lately I don’t use it a lot, but suddenly the rest of my family (wife and children) want to start using it, and honestly I do too.
The main use would be:
Surfing the web (Firefox)
Play games
Read e-books
Listening music (local and streaming)
Watching Movies/Youtube videos (not a lot)
Take pictures and record videos (ocasionally).
All the online activities are done via WIFI (because it is an N8010, only wifi model).
I don't mind losing the following functionalities
S-Pen, and all the apps related to it
S-Apps
Samsung multiwindow
I almost don’t use Bluetooth at all, neither advanced networking, just wifi access.
I need (if exists) a rom that provides this key functions:
Multiuser
Posibility to move apps to sd card (without root or link2sd, etc.)
A friend of mine have an LG G Pad 7 with LG stock Kitkat and it does have those 2 options.
So, I want to ask you, which would be the best rom that can fulfill these requirments:
Stock Samsung Kitkat - I guess not
A custom Rom based on Kitkat?
A custom Rom based on Lollipop?
CyanogenMod 11? (I know it's Kitkat too)
CyanogenMod 12 ?(I know it's Lollipop too)
Thanks in advance, and excuse my poor english.
Plurit said:
Hi, to all. Greetings from Argentina.
I want to change the Rom of my tablet and get out from Samsung's Jelly Bean, and I am thinking about going the custom rom way.
I own a N8010 from early 2013, and lately I don’t use it a lot, but suddenly the rest of my family (wife and children) want to start using it, and honestly I do too.
The main use would be:
Surfing the web (Firefox)
Play games
Read e-books
Listening music (local and streaming)
Watching Movies/Youtube videos (not a lot)
Take pictures and record videos (ocasionally).
All the online activities are done via WIFI (because it is an N8010, only wifi model).
I don't mind losing the following functionalities
S-Pen, and all the apps related to it
S-Apps
Samsung multiwindow
I almost don’t use Bluetooth at all, neither advanced networking, just wifi access.
I need (if exists) a rom that provides this key functions:
Multiuser
Posibility to move apps to sd card (without root or link2sd, etc.)
A friend of mine have an LG G Pad 7 with LG stock Kitkat and it does have those 2 options.
So, I want to ask you, which would be the best rom that can fulfill these requirments:
Stock Samsung Kitkat - I guess not
A custom Rom based on Kitkat?
A custom Rom based on Lollipop?
CyanogenMod 11? (I know it's Kitkat too)
CyanogenMod 12 ?(I know it's Lollipop too)
Thanks in advance, and excuse my poor english.
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To answer your questions:
There are no BEST ROM here.
Every ROM/Custom ROM has its own advantages.
Just try one & if it's good for you then stick with it.
If not, then try another.
"Every" Android version has multiuser ability as Android=Linux fork (At least Jelly bean is proven has multiuser, but without UI).
The only problem is the UI(User Interface) as not all Android version/ROM provide it.
I've tried multiuser in my GT-N8000 but then decided to remove it back to single user.
It consume my internal memory space too much.
Moving "apps" into microSD is a built in feature in Android, but not all app support this.
I also seen some ROM disabled it, so....again....try it yourself.
This built in "move to SD" feature has it own disadvantages though as some files are needed to be installed into internal memory it can cause the app size after moving it to SD will become slightly or significantly bigger around 10% - 40%.
And widget apps will be broken if you move it to SD.
By using ROOT,you can move it to SD without additional 10% - 40% size.
The method is called Mount Binding Folder.
Conclusion:
Read carefully before flashing any ROM
Avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight
Try it & if it suits you, use it as your daily driver
If not, try another
If you have any questions, ASK
....Again....avoid turning your device into an expensive paperweight
Hi all. I have had my Note Pro 12.2 (wifi version) for about a week now and am planning on rooting/wipe/flash etc this weekend. I'm not sure which ROM would be the best for me, as I don't see much about audio performance mentioned in the custom ROM threads.
I want a ROM that will allow me to do a lot of customization and changing around of settings, but pretty much like stock when I first load it in terms of appearance. I want to be able to get rid of unwanted bloatware (or have it already removed) but i still want to use the pen window and 4-app multi window (but with ability to add any program to the list). Want to add sound on/off setting to the camera (not just replace the sound file with a silent dummy file but actually add the switch to the menu).
I use both the s-pen and a bluetooth mouse frequently and looks like cynogen 12 might not be a good choice because of this, but everyone is raving about the speed and lack of lags. Would be great to get a bit of a performance increase with a new ROM.
But my main concern is audio latency. I'm using Caustic, ntrack, audio evolution etc. Supposedly latency is supposed to be improved again in 5.1 kernel? Not sure if the samsung pro audio sdk is included in any of these ROMs (didn't see anything about that). I'm hoping to try out soundcamp but haven't yet searched for a version of it ported to the note pro.
So are there any good ROMs available which keep the stock functions of the s-pen, bluetooth mouse, multi window, etc, but on a newer kernel with better audio performance? I also use a few of the samsung bundled apps, the hancome office, remote pc, etc. but I want to be able to remove all the bloatware stuff like businessweek, and a lot of the google stuff like music, games, etc.
Any tips on which ROM might be the best for me?
I decided to try out simplifying my phone and reduce issues that I've come across when using various custom ROMs, modified stock ROMs, etc... and used the Restore-To-Stock tool found in these forums. I then updated the phone via Settings, About, System Updates... then once that was done (Several times...) I was fully updated and ready to go. I flashed the latest TWRP & then installed the latest SuperSU for MM via TWRP... went into the file system and removed the APPs I did not want or need on my phone, wiped the caches and rebooted... I did this a few days ago and am insanely impressed by it. I forgot what stable and issue-free felt like... There's no fancy custom edits, no oddball quirks randomly from whatever was modified from various ROMs and after I installed xPosed, a few basic modules, setup Nova Launcher and all my APPs (Did a full fresh no restore of anything run through of it all)... I am the happiest I've ever been with my Moto X Pure (XT1575).
Once N pops in, I'll go through the whole process again, of course... but I think I might start sticking out simplified setups from here on out. I wanted to get the next Google "Nexus" phones released this year, but after seeing the Pixels and the prices... no thank you, I'm staying with my Pure for a while. I'm VERY happy with it... Dual front facing speakers are pretty much a necessity now for me. Internal Storage and Removable Batteries (prior to my Pure) are no longer my requirement. I've adjusted to pretty much using Google Drive and Google Play Music for all of my Files & Music with T-Mobile's no-data-cost of Google Play Music Streaming, I download my favorites (All I ever need would fit on a 32GB phone easily)... and Google Photos auto-backup has prevented me needing tons of storage options anymore... Battery you say though? No... I've YET to have a phone I wasn't able to charge on-the-go or even have a battery go bad.
Rambling here, this post was probably more for me than anyone who might read it, lol... I wanted the Moto Z so bad... but if I can't get an unlocked one that has the shatterproof display to use on T-Mobile... I don't see myself getting one at all. I want my next phone to have a fancy AMOLED hopefully shatterproof display with dual-front facing or at least a mod for sound / speakers like the Z and perhaps smaller top / bottom bezels. Not sure if I care about a fingerprint sensor yet or not. Anyway, have a great day everyone!!!
Have you compared debloated stock to tru pure x?
I've been thinking about doing something similar for the last few days. I've been running the latest TruPure since it came out several months ago. It might be the longest I've ever had an Android device without doing a clean flash of something, and things are degenerating.
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
CJ-Wylde said:
I've always been a huge fan of TruPureXMM but have run into a few minor quirks here and then over time and definitely feel this is proving to be a much more stable experience. I removed (debloated) pretty much everything TruPureX did when it comes to APPs, but I believe TruPureX had a lot more going on than just that, which is what prompted me to go this route.
Since we're all sort of waiting for the official N, and we all know it won't be here amazingly fast... I've opted for this route to stay with the official run of things until N is stable and available through the official channel. I'll go through the full official update process and then TWRP and Root after... I'll be able to stay away from xPosed at first simply because the only things I'm using now are making MM more like N and I won't need to do that with N. I'm hoping once I can TWRP, Root and debloat by deleting the many APPs I don't like... things will be great!
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You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
HaggisIV said:
You've made me interested in trying this out as well. Is titanium backup the best way to remove system apps or is there a better alternative?
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What I've always done is go into TWRP and remove them myself. Going full fresh no restore means no real need for Titanium. Return-To-Stock first, then OTA your way up to current... THEN TWRP and SuperSU... then boot in, make sure everything is working and jot down on a piece of paper or Google Keep from your computer a list of the APPs you don't want.
Then power off, get into TWRP and mount /System, go into Advanced, File Manager and within /system/APPs and /system/PrivAPPs (Or something like that, memory just blanked) and find what was on your personal list... enter the folder for it, hit button bottom right, choose delete, done, go back and do the others... then wipe Cache / Dalvik and power off / boot up for the absolute freshest experience you can have with a stock ROM.
The trick is to NOT restore ANYTHING... install all your preferred Google APPs first, do the whole Google Phone install if you removed the stock Phone app, etc... (I remove it and the messenger, and a bunch of other stuff like the gallery, mail, etc... because I solely use Google services now).
I removed my case cover and have been carrying the phone around bare.
It's like I bought a whole new phone.
Have you guys tried a quality AOSP based ROM like Dirty Unicorn or BrokenOS?
Super stability. Nothing at all like running a CM ROM.
Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
nobreak1970 said:
Testing cm14 now. Hashbang is doing a great job getting it daily worthy.
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cant get it to recognize my sim
unitz0mbie said:
cant get it to recognize my sim
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10/11 build will I bet. :highfive:
What apps/services did you remove? I'm running stock rooted myself and honestly I only see a couple of things I'd get rid of, nothing that would have any real impact on battery/storage though. This phone's stock ROM really is close to AOSP.
same too what apps did you remove tnx.. im not rooted .. tried uninstalling apps and guess what it got temp bootloop.. did hard reset using stock recovery and got fix again started tru welcome menu.... may i know guys what apps not to unistall tnx
Did a side by side comparison of apps in TruePure and stock. I counted 39 apps deleted from TruePure.
Android Live Wallpaper, Basic Daydreams
Bubbles, Calculator
Cloud Print, Com.Android.wallpaper.holospiral
Com.Motorola.audiomonitor.helper
Com.Motorola.bug2go
Com.Motorola.motgeofencesvc
Com.qualcomm.atfwd
Config Updater, CQATest
Demo mode, Device help
DiagMdlog Settings , Entitlement
Google Indic Keyboard , Japanese Input
Google Launcher Config , Korean Input
Pinyin Input , Play Movies
Play Music , Hangouts
Input Devices , Messaging
Moto Care , Moto Care int
Motorola Boot Services , Motorola Checkin
Motorola Notifications , Motorola One Time Init
Motorola Update Services
Native Drop Box Agent , Phase Beam
Rescue Add-on: Motorola
Sheets , Slides , Talk Back
I only deleted the extra Keyboards, Play Movies, Music, Hangouts, Sheets, Slides and Talk Back to be sure I had enough space for Xposed.