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I can't update my phone to Windows Mobile 6.1.
I have just spent about 2 hours with Verizons tech support. I'm able to download 6.1 and the phone accepts it, but the phone will not update. Verizon referred me to Microsoft who will help me for a fee, but they're only open M-F.
Does anyone know how to get this update through. I'm sure Verizon has blocked something because I am unable to directly do a Windows update option from my phone. It gives me an error, and the tech told me I had to use Verizon's Windows Mobile Device, which indicates to me that they have it blocked so that any type of upgrade has to be approved by them.
My guess is to force you to buy a new phone rather than simply update the phone you have. Newer phones have the 6.1 but you are also forced to purchase the data plan. I simply use the wifi on my phone at my leisure not Verizon's.
Anyway, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. If not I will pay Microsoft and you better beleive I will post the fix if I am able to.
mthrf569 said:
I can't update my phone to Windows Mobile 6.1.
I have just spent about 2 hours with Verizons tech support. I'm able to download 6.1 and the phone accepts it, but the phone will not update. Verizon referred me to Microsoft who will help me for a fee, but they're only open M-F.
Does anyone know how to get this update through. I'm sure Verizon has blocked something because I am unable to directly do a Windows update option from my phone. It gives me an error, and the tech told me I had to use Verizon's Windows Mobile Device, which indicates to me that they have it blocked so that any type of upgrade has to be approved by them.
My guess is to force you to buy a new phone rather than simply update the phone you have. Newer phones have the 6.1 but you are also forced to purchase the data plan. I simply use the wifi on my phone at my leisure not Verizon's.
Anyway, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. If not I will pay Microsoft and you better beleive I will post the fix if I am able to.
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How are you trying to " update " your phone.You cannot just download any WM 6.1 and unzip it to your phone. ( I apologize if I am insulting your intelligence, I am just trying to start from step one.) You must connect your phone to a PC with activesync 4.5 or windows mobile device center. And then run the Rom Udate Utility and nbh file from the PC.
Windows Update on the phone is a hold over from desktop Windows and has never done anything on a Mobile OS.
First off what file are you trying to run? And where did you get it.
None taken. I did it thru the desktop, and it did download the file onto my phone. The 1st Verizon tech couldn't figure out why it wasn't updating. The cab downloads, but for some reason it won't update to 6.1, & that's when she referred me to Microsoft. I called Verizon back, and he told me it wouldn't update because Verizon hasn't approved it yet and they didn't support it.
The first tech asked me to try the update that would be similar to your PC. When you go to your start menu, All Programs and click Windows Update. The phone has the same thing. The 2nd tech told me Verizon blocks that one and that you have to use get updates through Windows Mobile Device similar to activesync, but for Windows Vista. You can't choose your updates, they have approved updates & you can't stray from that.
mthrf569 said:
I can't update my phone to Windows Mobile 6.1.
I have just spent about 2 hours with Verizons tech support. I'm able to download 6.1 and the phone accepts it, but the phone will not update. Verizon referred me to Microsoft who will help me for a fee, but they're only open M-F.
Does anyone know how to get this update through. I'm sure Verizon has blocked something because I am unable to directly do a Windows update option from my phone. It gives me an error, and the tech told me I had to use Verizon's Windows Mobile Device, which indicates to me that they have it blocked so that any type of upgrade has to be approved by them.
My guess is to force you to buy a new phone rather than simply update the phone you have. Newer phones have the 6.1 but you are also forced to purchase the data plan. I simply use the wifi on my phone at my leisure not Verizon's.
Anyway, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. If not I will pay Microsoft and you better beleive I will post the fix if I am able to.
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Welcome to forums
Have a deep read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
You´ll be able to upgrade to 6.1 or even 6.5 cooked ROM´s that are much much better than the "official" ones!
Hope it helped,
Before I start, yes I did look around, and the best I found were unanswered questions, but if someone can link me to some answers I would much appreciate it.
Anyway my questions mostly deal with unlocking. Now I've heard about ChevronWP7, but, as far as I can tell, it's only for a jailbreak type of 'unlock' rather than the traditional carrier unlocking, is that correct?
If so, is there a free way to unlock phones to use on different carriers?
Also, if a phone is already carrier unlocked, will the lock return when syncing with a computer?
Finally, if I were to get a phone just for development, would I need to use it as a phone at all (meaning have a SIM card inserted), or could I just treat it like an iPhone's iPod Touch?
Thanks in advanced
ChevronWP7 unlocks a phone, so you can install applications from other sources than marketplace. For example, develop your own application, and install it on phone.
Official way: Pay 99$ for MS, to be able to do that.
Jefis said:
ChevronWP7 unlocks a phone, so you can install applications from other sources than marketplace. For example, develop your own application, and install it on phone.
Official way: Pay 99$ for MS, to be able to do that.
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Thanks, that's what I figured. But as a student, I get it free anyway. Do you know the answers to my other questions?
Also, if I were to get an HD2 and install Windows Phone 7 on that, would I be able to use the marketplace and develop applications on that?
To develop apps you dont need the phone just the SDK and the emulator.
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To develop apps you dont need the phone just the SDK and the emulator.
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I know, I actually have a few apps up already. But the emulator only goes so far, you don't get to see how your apps look in the marketplace and you don't get to try out competing apps. The main reason I want a device now is because I'm working on a game and the emulator doesn't have multi-touch capabilities and in general it can be sluggish
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I know, I actually have a few apps up already. But the emulator only goes so far, you don't get to see how your apps look in the marketplace and you don't get to try out competing apps. The main reason I want a device now is because I'm working on a game and the emulator doesn't have multi-touch capabilities and in general it can be sluggish
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If you're saying the game performs sluggishly in the emulator, it's much more likely that you have a memory leak or performance problem with your game, assuming your computer isn't slow.
If you want the apps on the phone you're going to either need to use ChevronWP7 (which will stop working after this next patch although apparently Microsoft will release or allow some sort of homerbrew solution after that patch) or get the dev unlock. Unfortunately, if you're in the App Hub through DreamSpark, they don't check your ID (which is required to get an unlock) until you try to submit your first app. This means you either have to upload a dummy app (which counts against your 5 free submissions) or you have to build an app entirely based on the emulator.
In terms of carrier unlock, I don't believe there is a free solution, but I'm entirely unsure about that.
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If you're saying the game performs sluggishly in the emulator, it's much more likely that you have a memory leak or performance problem with your game, assuming your computer isn't slow.
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It runs okay, but not as smooth as when I run it natively in Windows. This one is just a board game, I ran a more complex game I was working on in the past and it also ran fullspeed in Windows but was quite sluggish in the emulator. I know there are differences in the way the platforms handle memory, but I'm a pretty careful coder, I'm pretty sure it's more to do with the fact that the whole Windows Phone 7 dev kit is still quite new.
Anyway, I'm still thinking of going with the HD2 option. Would I be able to register that as a dev phone? If not how about ChevronWP7?
i think it was suggested earlier but you register your windows live account as a dev account (to activiate requires you to submit an app). once that's done, the phone automatically unlocks and works as a dev phone. i still don't agree on using HD2 as the basis of your dev phone, but i understand your lack of finances.
The Gate Keeper said:
i think it was suggested earlier but you register your windows live account as a dev account (to activiate requires you to submit an app). once that's done, the phone automatically unlocks and works as a dev phone. i still don't agree on using HD2 as the basis of your dev phone, but i understand your lack of finances.
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I like the idea of getting an HD2 just because of it's versatility, I could put Android on it if I wanted to try developing for that platform, the only thing stopping me is the fact that WP7 for HD2 will probably hit a snag when 7.1 comes out and I'd be stuck on the emulator again.
Actually I could get a proper Windows Phone, I just don't like paying for data. I just want to run it on WiFi and use it like an iPod touch. That's why I wanted to know if the device works fine without a SIM card or will it not let you do anything until you insert one? Surely owners of a device could answer this question.
DrederickTatum said:
I like the idea of getting an HD2 just because of it's versatility, I could put Android on it if I wanted to try developing for that platform, the only thing stopping me is the fact that WP7 for HD2 will probably hit a snag when 7.1 comes out and I'd be stuck on the emulator again.
Actually I could get a proper Windows Phone, I just don't like paying for data. I just want to run it on WiFi and use it like an iPod touch. That's why I wanted to know if the device works fine without a SIM card or will it not let you do anything until you insert one? Surely owners of a device could answer this question.
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yes it can be used wifi only.
Now I'm reading from some places that you need to be on 3G to install Apps from the marketplace, true?
Never had a data plan as we have city wide wifi and i have all the apps I want
z33dev33l said:
Never had a data plan as we have city wide wifi and i have all the apps I want
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Out of curiosity, what phones are you guys using?
Edit: Doh, just saw the Venue in your signature. Has T-Mobile ever bothered you about not having data?
Not once, they can't tell... I have an HD7, a venue pro, 2 focus' one quantum, and one surround. I'm a major fan
Hello xda! , newbie WP7 user here, getting my first WP7 device here, I am switching from iPhone 4,
I have a pretty simple question but searched all over the place and didn't seem to find a straight answer - is the OS updates for WP7 done via Zune (like itunes with iphone) or like most Android devices via Carrier OTA? I'm getting a HTC Surround and it's going to replace my ATT iphone line, that's why I am concerned.
Thanks for any input.
You get the update notification on your phone (or Zune if you hook up before you phone tells you) and then the update is done through Zune on the computer as it allows a back up of your phone to be made and makes the update process more reliable... Fairly easy though, does all the work for you
FiyaFleye said:
You get the update notification on your phone (or Zune if you hook up before you phone tells you) and then the update is done through Zune on the computer as it allows a back up of your phone to be made and makes the update process more reliable... Fairly easy though, does all the work for you
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thanks! that's exactly what I needed to know sounds quite straight forward, I'm concerned because a lot of android devices can be a PITA when it comes to OS updates.
Oh nohs...
Today i updated my phone with the new security update from zune.
from: v7.0.7000.8 to v7.0.7392.0
and now i cant unlock my phone anymore?!?!??!
FIX MS the chevronwp7 Hack??????
oh nos.... :/
why i updated my phone ((((
hope anybody can help me???
if i want to update i became the notice:
Sorry, I'm having trouble communicationg with the phone.
-Please make sure it's connected using USB
-Please start the Zune application
but it worked nice after the update....?
NEEED HELP! and have any other the same problem???
big thx
Yeah just flash your ROM there are some posts about that in here, but be carefull and chose the right ROM for the right device PS i have not test this but i belive its safe as long you know what your doing by reading every step. i hope that this will help you out
MS fixed the hole that the ChevronWP7 unlocker was using in the NoDo update (7390). You seem to have skipped NoDo and gone straight to the minor security update (7392) but updates are cumulative, so you will have gotten the Chevron hole closed too.
There are a few options here, though.
1) Get an official unlock. If you're a student with a .edu email address, this is free (through Dreamspark, I think). Otherwise, it costs $99. http://create.msdn.com has more info.
2) Restore your phone to 7008 using the Zune software (Settings -> Device -> Update). Then unlock using Chevron, and apply the hacks to prevent it from re-locking. Then re-update.
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
We need another method
What we need, especially those of us running Windows XP on disk space restricted PC's, with a Samsung Focus, is a method to unlock that does not require the installation and use of that disk hog Windows Phone Developers Tools. There must be another method that does not require this full install, but possible just some of the connectivity files. Wish someone would come up with it. I have no interest in stealing apps or anything like that. I would just like to be able to load custom ringtones and make some registry changes. Such a simple thing that has proven to be a nightmare using Windows XP.
@JamesAllen:
*WHY* would you run a 10-year-old OS, on a computer with such a restricted disk space that the tools are a burden (agreed they're large, but hard drives are about $0.04 USD / GB right now), and then want to hack on a cutting-edge smartphone OS?
Working to provide a low-footprint, downlevel-OS-compatible tool yourself is great, and I'm sure some people would love to have it. If you want somebody else to do it, though, you may get a better response if you provide a better reason than "my computer is so out-of-date that I could get a 3x better one for less than the cost of my new smartphone."
Oh, and for the record, I'm pretty sure the Developer Registration tool (used for official unlock) and its dependencies, including Zune, comes to less than 200 MB (the Zune install folder is <80 MB).
gore23 said:
thx for your fast reply's !
that are bad news for me -.-
is anybody here who have also the same problem like me and have a solution witch worked?
or is it maybe possible to unlock the phone with the new update?
i dont't want to hard reset my phone -.-
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What phone do you have?
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
Elanguescence said:
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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I heard my company is planning to go with these soon for entry level supervisors such as myself. I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is. All the specs and brochures from Motorola keep calling it a mobile computer in a smartphone "form factor" but never actually call it a phone. I didn't see anything in any of the specs to lead me to believe for sure that it was a phone or if it was just an Android computer in a smartphone form factor.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
Thanks.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
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Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
Elanguescence said:
Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
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Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
Sort of a let-down really. Yes, it "can" be a phone. Or without a sim card it can be a really powerful Android based mobile computer. That's what it is going to be for most of us. Only a few supervisors with area management approval are going to get units with the phone features working. Still cool. Just not as cool as I'd thought it was going to be.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
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I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
Elanguescence said:
I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
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I don't think they're doing anything all that special to cripple it. They just won't all have sim cards or a cell plan. Pretty much as simple as that.
I won't be doing anything to circumvent that though or rooting it or anything like that. It's not like it's a gift and it belongs to me or anything. After almost 22 years, I've kind of grown to like my job and getting a paycheck every two weeks.I'd kind of like to keep it for another 15 or 20 years. Who knows, maybe my manager will decide that I need cell service with mine.
I work for a large automaker in the U.S. We have over 2.8 million square feet under roof. Personally, I can be anywhere on in the plant, on the roof, in pits & sub-basements underneath or anywhere on or near the 50 acre plant site at any given time. A lot of what I need to do on a daily basis is through our intranet portal. They're putting in something like 500 new wi-fi repeaters/extenders all around the plant as well. They're purchasing these for over 300 first line supervisors at my site alone. I'm pretty sure they're doing this corporate-wide so I hate to think what they're spending on these things as a corporation. I'm sure it would bankrupt many small nations! In addition to giving us portal access away from the desk, these are meant to replace our aging industrial radio system. As expensive as these are, they're still much cheaper than $1.5 to $2k per person for a radio that has no other built-in functionality and these do seem pretty ruggedized.
Still a shame about the phone functionality though.
- Byron
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
FYI, in case anyone's wondering, there is a version with Google apps on the way (if it isn't already orderable).
Sent from my Moto X
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Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
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Browser is a standard one, which comes with other devices. Name is Browser.apk and version is 1.0.9
It's possible to install unsigned APK's without rooting.
google account
Hi,
I got stucked with trying to get google calendars from my google account to TC55.
I found one solution to setup google account as a corporate one, but it's not available anymore due to change in google policy.
I can setup google mail via email account, but that doesn't bring me my calendars to the device.
I tried to install gapps but without success.
Is there any other way?
Thanks.
Motorola work on google apps for TC55.There is in beta.
Elanguescence said:
... here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
RjCode said:
Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
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No idea, I haven't tried. As far as I understand gapps are usually installed via flashing a zip from recovery, and the stock recovery of the TC55 does not have that option, it only allows reflashing a whole image, if I understand it correctly. Either way, I have come to appreciate the open source alternatives and do not want to get Google on my phone, so I will not try, sorry.
However, going by this thread over at the Motorola support forum, it seems it won't take long until there is official gapps support:
https://developer.motorolasolutions.com/thread/4989
Motorola has now released a TC55-firmware with Google apps. Here are the release notes:
https://atgsupportcentral.motorolasolutions.com/content/emb/docs/ReleaseNotes/Release%20Notes%20-%20%20TC55_RevAPlus_GMS_01%2074G_v10.htm
According to the support email they sent me, to get the actual release you need to perform the following arcane ritual:
Resolution Type is : Software Download
Resolution Id is : 95562
Resolution Title is : TC55 Update Image v1.74 with GMS (Google Mobile Service) Release Note & Factory Reset & Enterprise Enabler package
restrictedSW :
T55N0JGMVRUEN17400.zip 321 MB TC55 OS Recovery Update package
T55N0JGMVAUEN17400.apf 321 MB TC55 OS update package file for deployment using MSP
If you require access to OS files for TC55 1.74 GMS then call the local Support Desk and provide following information:
a. Site ID
b. Serial #(s)
c. Phone #
d. Customer name (First and Last)
e. E-mail address
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Don't ask me what the local support desk number is, or the site ID, or why they have to make this so complicated.
Hi Elanguescence,
I think I screwed up my tc55 by enabling the multiuser function without first creating the white list. Now all the users (with admin rights) does not have access to all the programs, including Applock Administrator and Multiuser administrator.
To cut things short, do you know of a way to reset the device? I don't mind setting it to factory default and start over. I've googled it and some said to launch Rapid Deployment and scan a barcode from there... but my Rapid Deployment just says "Service Not Ready, Please Wait" and get stuck there.
Any help appreciated. Thank you.
Any TC55 users here? Should be getting my unit w/ GMS soon... How do you guys like it?
Is the bootloader locked?
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Hey!
I want to Buy one TC55 for me. Normally i hate Android and the Google stuff on the Phone but some Motorola Salesman told me there is a version with out.
Now i use an Sybian Device. That mean i am "offline" the hole time and when i need Internet the Phone connect the the Internet.
So how about that phone can i work "offline" to?
I will also use an VPN Tunnel to block on my backend all Connnection i dont want. Does all Data trough this VPN Tunnel ?
How about the Barcode Scanning does it work good?
I know for 2D i need to use the Cam but how works it when i am in some other Application?
Nobody?
Ok. I just bought a TC55 from a Friend and I was wondering if someone would post the update to get GSM and the Factory Reset packages. I went to the page and it requires all the information posted above before. Mine is rooted, but i am trying to install GAPS but the recovery is the basic and cannot. I manually installed Google Play and the Google Play Services but Google Play services keep crashing and the Play Store will not connect, any ideas ?
the are 2 versions one with google s... service and the other without.
So i belive you have the first?
(Can i ask you some question about that phone?)