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I'm looking to get my first Android tablet. I've always rooted and run custom firmware on my Android phones, so I need a "cheap" Android tablet with a healthy developer community and a lot of support.
My first thought was to go for the $250 Nook Tablet, spec for spec it's better than the Kindle Fire; but didn't an update come out for it recently that made rooting it near impossible or so highly difficult that it hasn't been done yet?
Then the $200 Kindle Fire came to mind, very popular tablet must mean a very healthy/active hacking/dev community right? But isn't it also locked down in such a way it can't be rooted or modified anymore?
Then I see a $189 Lenovo A1 Tablet at Best Buy with decent specs. It's running Android 2.3 which I'd normally prefer over Android 3.0/Honeycomb but now that ICS/Android 4.0 is out, I'd definately want to run that on my tablet. So is ICS running very good/stable on any sub $300 Android tablet?
I wonder when the $250 Tegra3 based tablet from Asus (or is it Acer...) comes out. Suggestions on which route to go?
My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.
Colton127 said:
My friend has a Kindle Fire, and it's too slow to be called a tablet. It's an E-Reader that can run Apps.
Even the web browser - scrolling and loading pages - is laggy.
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Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.
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Does it run any custom firmware? Or is it 100% stock? The first thing I plan to do is run a custom ROM on it. Even if it's to remove the bloatware and put in a few tweaks, at least it'd be better than stock. My Galaxy S II right now runs a custom ROM based on the factory ROM, so it has full hardware support and such but it's got a lot of tweaks put into it and bloatware removed, etc. the end result is it's got better battery life and runs faster/smoother than any stock Galaxy S II ROM. I'm hoping to get ICS/Android 4.0 onto a tablet, as that's the way to go, but if the dev community isn't quite there yet, then I'm hoping for a custom/tweaked out ROM as a tide-me-over.
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He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.
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He runs stock rooted with Android Market and a custom launcher.
I tested Opera Mobile on it - which uses full hardware acceleration. It was the smoothest browser I tested on the device, but it was still jittery and lagged while scrolling. The GPU and CPU are obviously not that great.
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Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.
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Well it is a cheap tablet new, but I thought it was dual core. Kind of disappointing it's sluggish even with HW acceleration. I just checked the Kindle Fire Android Development forum and it looks like they have ICS/Android 4.0 ROM's for it but the 3 main issues are no HW UI Acceleration; 720p and HD video in general; No bluetooth. I don't care too much for Bluetooth and the 720p video thing isn't that important at the moment (I think), but the no HW UI Acceleration could pose a problem, especially if the CPU is as sluggish as you say.
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It is Dual-Core, but it was still laggy when I had tested it. I guess it really bothered me because I was so use to the extremely smooth and fluid iPad 2 & Galaxy S II I own and use day-to-day.
I never tested any custom ROMs, but wish I was able to. It seems to have a lot of popular ROMs and a good developer community.
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Sorry about that. Thanks for moving this thread/keeping things organized, I really appreciate what you guys do.
Right now I'm leaning toward the HP Touchpad or the Kindle Fire. Seems CM7 is the better option for both devices and good enough as a daily driver; but CM9 is further along on the Fire than it is on the Touchpad.
I'm in about the same situation.
I vastly prefer the 7" form factor, although I could probably be persuaded to a 10" for the same price range...
Currently, I'm leaning towards the 16G Nook Tablet, mostly because of the RAM advantage it has vs the Kindle Fire.
The fire seems to have a more active dev community, but, once it is rooted & has a working ROM (ICS preferred), isn't that the main thing to be looking for?
However, I am not set on any specific tablet, and am very open to suggestions...
I'm still rocking the original Nook Color. Runs CM7 like a champ, and CM9 builds are showing great progress.
For a thread revival, I figured I would state my final decision & reasons for it, just in case anyone else is looking for similar information...
I ended up going with a Nook Tablet...
I considered the Kindle Fire, but it has 512MB vs the 1G of RAM that the Nook has.
Checking the dev status for the Nook, there is a CM7 running (fairly well, now that I've given it a shot). Once that is 100% (and, in my opinion, it is very nearly there), there really isn't much of a reason to avoid it.
In the day I've had it, I have to say that it has ended up being much better than I was expecting.
check out this tablet
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it's a youtube link to a NCIX review on a new tablet seems nice for the price I can't post full link cause I don't have enough posts maybe someone can help me out and post it for me? thanks
Hi Everyone,
I am looking for a really good Android tablet (version 4.0 - ICS). Great display, 1GB RAM, and Dual Core or Quad Core CPU.
I am checking the web and there are tons of tablets. Samsung is NOT the only option. The Chinese versions seem very conveniently priced.
So, what is really the best and fastest tablet out there today?
Thanks
Toshiba Thrive is AWESOME! But little development and no ICS YET, but is scheduled to get it
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I've heard really good things about the Asus Transformer Prime and so far they've been really good at keeping their products up to date and supporting them. I've tinkered around with one in Best Buy and was impressed. Sleek and fast. And it's quad core
I can't say enough about the Asus Transformer Prime w/ dock. Very high quality device.
Also think the Asus Transformer Prime is awesome!
Don't buy the Prime just yet! Wait for the Asus Transformer Infinity or the Padfone!
Best and fastest tablet out right now? Nothing other than the awesome ASUS Transformer Prime.
I still prefer iPad due to the selection of Apps (Android is severely lacking here), but Android is awesome for its customization and openness,
I currently own a Transformer (original) and I would highly recommend the prime, if it lives up to half of what my transformer does it is an incredible tablet. Also has a good amount of development and is a powerhouse
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Hi Everyone,
I am looking for a really good Android tablet (version 4.0 - ICS). Great display, 1GB RAM, and Dual Core or Quad Core CPU.
I am checking the web and there are tons of tablets. Samsung is NOT the only option. The Chinese versions seem very conveniently priced.
So, what is really the best and fastest tablet out there today?
Thanks
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has to be asus TF !
I have an Asus Transformer Prime. It is really great. Not only the prestations but also the design of the TFP. I recommend you to consider the Asus Transformer Prime!
Motorola Xoom is the best one I tried so far, with ICS of course.
TF Prime. I have had it for 3 months now. Monster.
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One of my friends has the Asus Transformer Prime and it's great.
Motorola Xoom:
Make it a GED and you can't go wrong, just got the 4.0.4 OTA update, it runs so smooth
Transformer Prime is on top right now. and the dock is a MUST have for this tablet.
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if u want for development then try auraslate lifepad
Yeah, the Asus Transformers Prime. Its Awesome.
Only downside of the TFP is there aren't really good ROMs jet.
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Hi,
I want to buy TF700.
But I've read in another section of XDA forums that TF700 has speed throttling issues writing to internal storage.
Is anyone familiar with this, and if so, has issue been resolved?
Thanks.
Alan
no.
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Do you mean
1. No, your not familiar with it, or
2. No, it hasn't been resolved.
Thanks.
Alan
Has not been resolved. Plenty of threads on it in these forums.
There are some workarounds, as with the browser (browser2ram), plus tweaks, disabling bloat, etc. - but the I/O problem still (and will continue) to exist. It's hardware based.
TF700 I/O Throttling Issue?
John,
Thanks for your reply.
Is this issue bad enough to pass on buying the TF700?
I don't care about games. Would use it for web browsing, Office work, SKYPE video, and photo viewing and uploading.
Would I have to root to accomplish any tweaks? I'm not anxious to do that yet to a new machine, since I'm new to Android.
My other main consideration is the Galaxy Note 10.
But I liked the higher resolution and keyboard of the TF700.
Do you have any opinion?
Thanks again.
Alan
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity. Does it affect the speed of switching program to program? I haven't noticed any extreme issues with speed. Then again, I have disabled a ton of of the bloatware and tweaked a lot of the settings to get maximum performance (on non rooted JB). I did notice that after upgrading to JB and then reformatting, things ran smoother.
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In my experience upgrading to jelly bean has made a difference and provides a much smoother experience.
However before you do that it is worth considering rooting the Infinity (doesn't void warranty) then restoring root after the upgrade as you can tweak things so that the io is not really an issue.
Custom Roms certainly help as well.
I do feel that people on xda have become somewhat fixated with the asus io issues. In everyday use they are not really that noticeable especially after the JB upgrade.
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Is this issue bad enough to pass on buying the TF700?
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I know this sounds crap, but only you can tell.
I don't care about games. Would use it for web browsing, Office work, SKYPE video, and photo viewing and uploading.
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Any resource-intensive task may let the I/O issue surface. Photo viewing is OK, uploading, well... that would depend on several other factors (WiFi quality, the type of image files and their size/resolution/compression level). Web browsing is hit or miss: most do not notice a drastic impediment, but others do. Very personal. And all the same considerations apply to Skype/VOIP in general/word-processing software.
Day to day use is not that bad, however, even on stock, unless you have a 'Monday-morning model'...
Would I have to root to accomplish any tweaks? I'm not anxious to do that yet to a new machine, since I'm new to Android.
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Yes, you would need root, definitely. Not that hard to accomplish, IF you can follow instructions to the letter. Being really new to Android, you'll either have to start somewhere, or just use what is given to you by the manufacturer.
My other main consideration is the Galaxy Note 10.
But I liked the higher resolution and keyboard of the TF700.
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In my opinion, if you are even considering the Note, it's not that big a difference to you. I wouldn't even consider the Note a serious contender for the same reasons you gave, but, again, that is as personal as it gets.
Do you have any opinion
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Heh, opinions. They're like sphincters, right -- (pretty much) everyone having one? It seems everyone on XDA --or on forums in general -- has some voyeuristic tendencies showing off their virtual a**holes -- don't worry, we'll voice our opinions, even if you do not like them.
Joeful said:
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity. Does it affect the speed of switching program to program? I haven't noticed any extreme issues with speed. Then again, I have disabled a ton of of the bloatware and tweaked a lot of the settings to get maximum performance (on non rooted JB). I did notice that after upgrading to JB and then reformatting, things ran smoother.
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Yes, they used a relatively slow Hynix unit, from what I've read. Read up on the I/O issue on the load of threads that are a bit older -- we went into a relatively deep discussion there which is hard/futile/unnecessary to reproduce here. There's a lot of info and considerations mentioned in there -- take a look!
Regards,
M
Joeful said:
What exactly does the throttling affect? I read somewhere that ASUS cheaped out on the RAM in the Infinity.
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It's not about the RAM, it's the embedded MMC, which is slower than the internal storage in many other Android-based devices. The effect is visible whenever you try to load or store larger amounts of data in the internal storage - installing apps, loading pictures, downloading files, etc.
For years, PC users have suffered from slow storage until SSDs became affordable - our eMMC is even slower than a mechanical hard drive in a netbook. Software can only work around the storage slowness by caching, but this cannot fully hide the issues.
azscharf said:
Hi,
I want to buy TF700.
But I've read in another section of XDA forums that TF700 has speed throttling issues writing to internal storage.
Is anyone familiar with this, and if so, has issue been resolved?
Thanks.
Alan
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Absolutely get one! Regarding the "I/O" issues - they are way overblown, to be honest. With Jelly Bean it's not much of a problem at all. There are also a few tweaks around (browser2ram, for example), that make browsing a much faster experience (along with a few other tweaks here and there).
Overall, the TF700 is an awesome tablet with a *super* awesome display and great keyboard dock. We are just now starting to realize the potential of this device and developers are starting to produce custom ROMs and kernels that will make it even that much better.
Do not let the I/O "problem" stop you from buying the device - you will see once you get it, that it's really not much of a problem at all.
After all, you can always return the device if you don't like it...
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TF700 I/O Throttling Issue?
Thanks everyone for the valuable information.
I'm going to stick wiith my TF&00 purchase.
sbdigs wrote:
"In my experience upgrading to jelly bean has made a difference and provides a much smoother experience.
However before you do that it is worth considering rooting the Infinity (doesn't void warranty) then restoring root after the upgrade as you can tweak things so that the io is not really an issue."
Question:
Why root before upgrading to JB and restore root after upgrade?
Why not just root after upgrading to JB?
Thanks.
Alan
The method to root JB on our tablets has not been released yet - IOW, that is the only way to root a locked Infinity running JB
It sounds like you made a decision already, but just to back up a bit more.
Here is compiled I/O scores from official Antutu scores.
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I chose Antutu here because I could not readily find scores of many devices at once on other benchmarks, but I believe the result will be similar.
For instance, check http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...hmark-11-modern-devices-compared-in-13-tests/ Originally before update TF700 score was listed here. But with update (back in early August or late July) the RL bench score was already up to 60-90s.
So what are these proving?
Yes. I/O is slower than the that of Galaxy Note 10.1, or some android phones. But it is not unique to the Infinity. Essentially, what happening here I believe is Infinity just simply did not use top notch I/O but I don't think they cheaped out. Each manufacture decides where to put money when building a device. For example, Samsung's Galaxy Note 10.1 used 2GB RAM and nice IO but did not use Full HD screen. In a ideal world, we can always ask for more. 4GB RAM, Ivy Bridge, Retina display etc. for $500...
Conclusion is basically IO should be as good as most other android tablet out there. In fact, infinity may still be superior to some due to DDR3 RAM use. I think people made/surmised IO as major issue because transformer series had frequent ANR, and lag almost to freeze while application downloading when it was originally released (at least for TF700 and I believe similar story for TF201). Given the use of most cutting edge Tegra chip, DDR3 ram, people hypothesized IO is the bottleneck and the cause of the issue.
But now those original issues raised seemed so much better to the point I say ANR frequency is pretty identical to my iPad 2 and formerly owned Galaxy Note 10.1. System stutters slightly when installing large application sometimes, but not to the point unusable and every system has that issue. Even my desktop does get that if I do too many things at once.
I am extremely happy with this device, and currently this is the most ideal tablet on the market for me.
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I am extremely happy with this device, and currently this is the most ideal tablet on the market for me.
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Second, especially now that it's on Jellybean.
Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
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My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet.
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We've been over this a thousand times on these forums.
The TF700 has a resolution of 1920 x 1200
The SGS3 has a resolution of 1280 x 720
More pixels means more lag. Regardless of the rest of the hardware. You want a faster tablet, get a low-resolution one.
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Ok so I am currently running CleanRom 2.7 Oc'd to 1.8 and without Fsync disabled. I also use the dock for battery & email purposes.
With this combo I honesty expected alot more from this tablet. It just seems a bit laggy. With a 1.8ghz Quad core processor & a streamlined OS, this thing should be FLYING! What am I missing? My GS3 on CM10 runs circles around this tablet. I know it has an extra gig of ram, but I wouldn't think there would be such a giant difference.
So, in your experience - what is the fastest most efficient rom with out lag? CM10? Another Cleanrom? Other Rom?
Please give me your opinion & any other suggestions. Thanks
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If I were you, I'd go to CRomI 3.1 Odex with disabled fsync (seriously: there are no risks 'cause the stock kernel is as stable as a rock).
I too am an SIII user (with 1 gig of RAM) but I really do think the tf700 isn't slow at all.
Maybe you forgot to update your bootloader when going form ICS to JB?
I am getting near 7000 on Quadrant (which is not really a good benchmark app, but it gives an idea of what scores you'll be able to get with the tf700.
I can only compare the original ROM to CleanROM and CROMi haven't tried other ROMs.
No dock here either so I wouldn't have input there.
My experience with the stock ROM was a heartache.
Jelly Bean just didn't come thru as promised far as I could see.
Since going thru the learning process to flash CleanROM\Clemsyns, then continuing on with CROMi there was no looking back.
This I consider a complete solution to my disappointment with the Infinity.
Almost returned the tablet to Amazon so glad I kept it now.
Not sure why some stock tabs run with such lagginess.
Oddly I fiddled with one in a store just 2 days ago and it was very smooth.
My recommendation would be an obvious one.
*Be advised once you start ROMing you may get hooked
Im looking at upgrading my Toshiba Thrive to the TF700. From reading reviews all over the net it is still rated in the top 3
If you were looking to buy a tab today would you still buy the TF700? If not what would you buy?
And NO Apple anything is not on the menu for me, never, never, never
Thanks for the input
IT just depends on your wants and need. The Nexus10 out performs the TF700 but has limited storage, no USB port and no keyboard dock. Also, unless you are willing to unlock the performance stock will be not that great.
Tylor
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IT just depends on your wants and need. The Nexus10 out performs the TF700 but has limited storage, no USB port and no keyboard dock. Also, unless you are willing to unlock the performance stock will be not that great.
Tylor
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I would root the tab, My Thrive and Rezound is rooted running custom roms.
I just am not sure if I should wait a few months to see what the latest and greatest tab will be,
I mostly use the tab to surf the net and check email, thats pretty much all I do with the tab
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I would root the tab, My Thrive and Rezound is rooted running custom roms.
I just am not sure if I should wait a few months to see what the latest and greatest tab will be,
I mostly use the tab to surf the net and check email, thats pretty much all I do with the tab
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If that is about it then the TF700 would not be bad. In order to install custom ROMS you must unlock thus voiding ASUS factory warranty. The keyboard dock makes it SOOO much easier surfing the web and typing up things.
Tylor
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Nope.
I would no longer recomend this tablet. After the last update it has become very unstable, and I was never happy with the speed. Apps crash regularly (including system apps) and do not behave as expected. I would find a more stable device if I were starting over.
No deep sleep
The only reason I cant recommend this tablet is because it does not have a deep sleep function. Well it supposedly does but it never works since the first day i got it. I have made all the changes that have come through in suggestions and nothing works to correct this. It almost seems worse since 4.2.1 update but it was still bad before that.
Other then the no deep sleep I think its a great tablet.
Íf you're willing to unlock and install custom ROMs, there's no tablet in the market that will beat the TF700.
The Nexus 10 has a high resolution and is faster when comparing stock, but it has no MicroSD slot, no dock (and thus no USB, no extra battery, no extra SDslot..)...
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I would root the tab, My Thrive and Rezound is rooted running custom roms.
I just am not sure if I should wait a few months to see what the latest and greatest tab will be,
I mostly use the tab to surf the net and check email, thats pretty much all I do with the tab
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Since the tf700 has a permanent issue with I/O bottleneck, it only can do so much. Imagine a custom rom/O/C kernel on the Nexus 10, definitely better than the tf700 in term of multitasking. Nexus 10 does have mini usb port which you can add a mini usb for a external sdcard. A wireless mini third party keyboard/mouse would be nice since the tf700 with dock is impossible to place on your lab (fliping over due to unbalance design, tablet is heavier than the keyboard). I would take the nexus 10 without hesitation.
Thanks for everyone's input, keep them coming.
Im still very curious on peoples thoughts about all the new tabs that are coming out withing a few months
Thanks
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Thanks for everyone's input, keep them coming.
Im still very curious on peoples thoughts about all the new tabs that are coming out withing a few months
Thanks
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The new tablet will no doubt surpass this tablet, however it will require you to wait, which might be worth it, or may not be. I personally am eager to see if ASUS releases a new transformer using a Tegra4 or a Snapdragon SoC, maybe even an intel. That would be awesome. And maybe better i/o performance because the i/o sucks but my tablet still runs great and with DATA2SD can solve the issue, mostly anyways.
Tylor
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The new tablet will no doubt surpass this tablet, however it will require you to wait, which might be worth it, or may not be. I personally am eager to see if ASUS releases a new transformer using a Tegra4 or a Snapdragon SoC, maybe even an intel. That would be awesome. And maybe better i/o performance because the i/o sucks but my tablet still runs great and with DATA2SD can solve the issue, mostly anyways.
Tylor
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Other manufacturers show some promise as well, wondering about Samsung and Sony has a nice tablet coming out and the end of the month
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Other manufacturers show some promise as well, wondering about Samsung and Sony has a nice tablet coming out and the end of the month
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Yes they do indeed. But I doubt I will ever get a touch screen tablet/laptop without a keyboard. I have experienced both typing and tapping and using a tablet to type things up is a pain. And I very much dislike having to carry around a bluetooth one. The keyboard dock makes it efficient and easy to carry around.
Tylor
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To me, the Nexus 10 is an inferior device. Simply because it has a fixed amount of storage. Cloud is useless when you leave the house, OTG adapters are pointless when you're trying to walk around with it or use public transport. With the TF700, I have two 64GB MicroSD's extra on top of the 64GB internal, an USB port that supports my 2TB flashdrive (the OTG adapter on the nexus just gives "Voltage too high" on any flashdrive.), 9 more hours of battery and a keyboard and trackpad that doesn't eat my battery even more. (which bluetooth, wifi and USB does.)
For all that, i'll wait the extra second it aparently takes for things to load. Besides, it's still a full 10 seconds faster than that snail of a GT2 10.1...
And, and this is my personal opinion; feel free to disagree, it's ugly as hell. Looks like a cheap plastic toy you buy at Toys 'R Us... At least the TF700 look sleek and modern (and scifi-y).
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the tf700 with dock is impossible to place on your lab (fliping over due to unbalance design, tablet is heavier than the keyboard).
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What are you on about? Mine always sits on my lap, with the dock, for a whole 6.5 hours a day minimum. It has never fallen over. Not even once. Either it's because I have the better balanced TF201 dock, or you just want an angle that physics doesn't allow.
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Samsung "announced" the Tab 3 last week. But it will have a Dual core, 2gb RAM and *shudder* 1280x800. Which essentially makes it rubbish. All it has over the Tab 2 is 1GB more RAM. Not worth the upgrade.
I got a question guys I am stuck between deciding between these two tablets. I love my Galaxy S3 because of the ease of flashing, the display, great battery life and development. I checked out and was impressed with the tab 2 10.1 and am going to check out the TF700 tomorrow. I am getting the tablet for reading magazines, books, and streaming videos I have on my computer/tversity during bedtime (some of which are MKVs)
How would you guys say the battery life compared on the two machines?
How would you say the display compares?
zetsui said:
I got a question guys I am stuck between deciding between these two tablets. I love my Galaxy S3 because of the ease of flashing, the display, great battery life and development. I checked out and was impressed with the tab 2 10.1 and am going to check out the TF700 tomorrow. I am getting the tablet for reading magazines, books, and streaming videos I have on my computer/tversity during bedtime (some of which are MKVs)
How would you guys say the battery life compared on the two machines?
How would you say the display compares?
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Samsung and Asus just announced their new Tabs that are coming out sometime within the 3rd Qtr of this year
If you could, I would wait, the Sammy looks amazing, not much for details on the Asus yet
Hitch_Itch said:
If you could, I would wait, the Sammy looks amazing
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Looks like they have finally found a supplier of high resolution displays.
Hitch_Itch said:
Samsung and Asus just announced their new Tabs that are coming out sometime within the 3rd Qtr of this year
If you could, I would wait, the Sammy looks amazing, not much for details on the Asus yet
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That's what my cousin told me but I note it's a NOTE not a tab...if it's like the previous notes I still would like to know more about the TF700 vs the Tab 2 10.1
I don't like the note, I don't need it for S-pen or note taking and I felt like it's battery life isn't up to par with the other two either.
Could someone who has had both reply to those two questions?
zetsui said:
That's what my cousin told me but I note it's a NOTE not a tab...if it's like the previous notes I still would like to know more about the TF700 vs the Tab 2 10.1
I don't like the note, I don't need it for S-pen or note taking and I felt like it's battery life isn't up to par with the other two either.
Could someone who has had both reply to those two questions?
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Samsung is coming out with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition)-http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014
Asus is coming out with a new Transformer Pad TF701- scroll down the page-http://http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-announces-new-fonepad-note-transformer-pad-701transformer-book-and-new-memo-pads
Im getting one or the other and retiring my Toshiba Thrive.
Both look super sweet, Its going to be a hard choice
zetsui said:
That's what my cousin told me but I note it's a NOTE not a tab...if it's like the previous notes I still would like to know more about the TF700 vs the Tab 2 10.1
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DO NOT GET THE TAB 2 10.1.
Worst money I ever spend.
It's sluggish as hell, the resolution is a horrendous 1280x800 and it can't read 95% of all external storage devices. Input is very unresponsive if you're used to the snappyness of a higher-end device like the s3. (half the time ot doesn't register untill I actually apply pressure.) Screen is also rather dark.
Haven't had the chance to try the 3 yet, but the only advantage that has its one GB more RAM.
As for the tf700, it lags on occasion, but still runs laps around the gt2 10.1. And you can use it without having to draw the curtains.
The new note tab is looks very sweet, but samsung has no experience with HD on a tablet, or that resolution anywhere at all. (1280x800 is not HD unless you're blind.) So i would wait to see what that does anyway .
Wait for the new Transformer, with a bit of luck they solved the I/O lag.
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Hitch_Itch said:
Samsung is coming out with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition)-http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-samsung-galaxy-note-101-2014
Asus is coming out with a new Transformer Pad TF701- scroll down the page-http://http://www.androidcentral.com/asus-announces-new-fonepad-note-transformer-pad-701transformer-book-and-new-memo-pads
Im getting one or the other and retiring my Toshiba Thrive.
Both look super sweet, Its going to be a hard choice
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ShadowLea said:
DO NOT GET THE TAB 2 10.1.
Worst money I ever spend.
It's sluggish as hell, the resolution is a horrendous 1280x800 and it can't read 95% of all external storage devices. Input is very unresponsive if you're used to the snappyness of a higher-end device like the s3. (half the time ot doesn't register untill I actually apply pressure.) Screen is also rather dark.
Haven't had the chance to try the 3 yet, but the only advantage that has its one GB more RAM.
As for the tf700, it lags on occasion, but still runs laps around the gt2 10.1. And you can use it without having to draw the curtains.
The new note tab is looks very sweet, but samsung has no experience with HD on a tablet, or that resolution anywhere at all. (1280x800 is not HD unless you're blind.) So i would wait to see what that does anyway .
Wait for the new Transformer, with a bit of luck they solved the I/O lag.
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Damn....wow you just 180'd me you crazy Dutch woman But your response was a little biased 1280x800 can definitely be considered HD. I benchmark Diablo 3 Youtube cinematics on that resolution when I'm in store
The three is the same as the 2, 1 more gig ram and 1 hour less battery life. Not a good reception
Can I ask did you root and install a custom AOSP or CM rom on it by chance or are you basing your TAB 2 10.1 experience on stock? That's what I plan on doing from day 1 and what I based my experience with my S3 on? I would never run an ATT Verizon bloated version of a tab and judge based n that
Is she wrong guys with coming off a little hard, can someone else who is running AOSP preferably comment on the snappiness? In store it really seemed great to be frank.