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With the likes of the S5 and New HTC one do you think the 805 is really that much faster ? I think the interfaces of both of the devices will impact their performance.
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With the likes of the S5 and New HTC one do you think the 805 is really that much faster ? I think the interfaces of both of the devices will impact their performance.
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Competing hardware won't date this phone, the lack of software support will. Being that this phone is completely unlocked, software development should have a nice long future - - as far as phones go.
There is a fine line between outdated and obsolete.
Will the Nexus 5 be outdated? Well, in comparison to devices like the Note 3 or even the LG Flex, it already is.
Will the Nexus 5 become obsolete? Yes. Most modern tech probably will. But devices like the S5 or One+ will not be the devices that make the N5 obsolete. Maybe the S7/S8. Or the HTC S One+One X (or whatever ridiculous name HTC comes up with next.) Currently, the biggest differences between these devices isn't hardware -- it's software.
Keep in mind the Nexus One came out nearly five years ago, and that phone is still more powerful than a great deal of devices that are being released today.
IMO, the Nexus 5 will only become outdated once Google and communities like XDA stop supporting them. I don't think we'll get there for a few years.
S5/newOne won't be using the 805 chip, they'll use a very slightly updated version of the 800.
When 805 phones do come out, then the nexus will feel dated to me.
It was outdated the moment it was announced: the low battery, the 8Mpx camera in days where we have 13-20Mpx, the weak mono speaker compared to the dual stereo from HTC and Z2, Snapdragon 800 when 805 is just around the corner, 2GB RAM when 3GB will be mainstream this year, etc.
Only thing that will not be outdated is the software. Hardware is already outdated, mainly the battery and camera.
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Competing hardware won't date this phone, the lack of software support will. Being that this phone is completely unlocked, software development should have a nice long future - - as far as phones go.
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That future won't be as long as you think.
Most people won't be able to stay with the Nexus 5 more than 1 or 2 years because of the low battery. Next year most phones will have 3000 minimum, and most Nexus 5 users will leave the Nexus 5 for the 6 or another phone if it has more battery.
Despite having updates and custom roms, nothing matters if the battery isn't enough for the future!
quality never gets outdated!
nexus 5 cannot be compared to software features mentioned in op.
hardware wise.. some of it already is outdated in geeky way to put!
phone would go along just fine for a long time as we have everything we need!
Wouldn`t want to have TW and its bloat anymore, i`am done with Samsung and the whole KNOX trap. Give me a good Nexus anytime
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Wouldn`t want to have TW and its bloat anymore, i`am done with Samsung and the whole KNOX trap. Give me a good Nexus anytime
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Nexus 5 won't get outdated quickly because it has Snapdragon 800 and 2Gb of ram,so after some time it's will just be assigned to the mid-range phones,instead of high-end ones,but I think it's will be mid-range phone for about 2 years,like phones with only 1GB of ram are still assigned to the mid-range.
once a device is release.. a new one is in the making to replace it... thats the way the world goes...
Besides.. the N5 didnt have world class specs to be with either... It sold good because the Price Was Right... if it was priced $500+.. sales I bet would be a quarter of what it is at best..
I remember asking myself the same question when I had the Note 2. It was all over the internet with articles and reviews praising it. It had a decent development albeit it was slow and i figured id keep it for atleast 2 years since the 2GB ram and the battery life woukd keep it future proof. Then within 10 months into its life cycle all its excitements stopped and the attention was onto the Note 3 and thats when it started feeling outdated. Personally I don't compare my device brand to other brands except for its newer model. So personally the only other device that will make it outdated is its successor.
Nexus5 lives on till the Nexus6 Google flagship is released!
It's already outdated. That's just the way it is.
It still feels blisteringly fast and awesome to me. When will it "feel" like it's outdated and needs to be replaced? For me, probably when Google stops the OS updates, or maybe, 2 Nexus generations from now. With the way this phone performs, I will probably skip the next Nexus and update the following gen.
My brother has a Nexus 4, and after playing around with it for a while, that phone still feels great as well. That phone is already a generation old, but doesn't feel outdated to me.
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It was outdated the moment it was announced: the low battery, the 8Mpx camera in days where we have 13-20Mpx, the weak mono speaker compared to the dual stereo from HTC and Z2, Snapdragon 800 when 805 is just around the corner, 2GB RAM when 3GB will be mainstream this year, etc.
Only thing that will not be outdated is the software. Hardware is already outdated, mainly the battery and camera.
That future won't be as long as you think.
Most people won't be able to stay with the Nexus 5 more than 1 or 2 years because of the low battery. Next year most phones will have 3000 minimum, and most Nexus 5 users will leave the Nexus 5 for the 6 or another phone if it has more battery.
Despite having updates and custom roms, nothing matters if the battery isn't enough for the future!
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You're assuming everyone is experiencing sub par battery. That is not the case. You're also assuming all other phones will have good battery life. I can tell you this is false. http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
The LG G2 is similar to the N5 but with a 3000 mAh battery. You can find many people complaining of battery life issues especially with the changes in the kit Kat update. Battery size will not completely stop wake locks, badly programmed apps, and unforseen issues from causing abnormal drains.
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You're assuming everyone is experiencing sub par battery. That is not the case. You're also assuming all other phones will have good battery life. I can tell you this is false. http://anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3
The LG G2 is similar to the N5 but with a 3000 mAh battery. You can find many people complaining of battery life issues especially with the changes in the kit Kat update. Battery size will not completely stop wake locks, badly programmed apps, and unforseen issues from causing abnormal drains.
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That is true, but the bigger the battery is the wakelocks and such will have less impact than in a lower battery. It's just pure logic.
The battery will last longer, even with wakelocks.
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That is true, but the bigger the battery is the wakelocks and such will have less impact than in a lower battery. It's just pure logic.
The battery will last longer, even with wakelocks.
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Agreed. However to a user experiencing abnormal drain that might not equate to a large difference in the end. You can't argue with the numbers though, N5 is about as efficient of a high end phone ever made.
I think the biggest selling points of the N5 won't get outdated or become obsolete any time soon.
Price point: Good phones will come out, few will cost $350 off contract.
Software support: Official updates and amazing developer support.
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As someone who just picked up a Nexus 5, I can say that this phone feels more modern than anything else I have used.
Blows my old GS4 out of the water.
I think this phone will hold it's own, sure note 3 has 3gb of ram but it's bloated with TW which in the notes defense adds a lot of cool functionality with s pen and multi window. I mean technically my old gnex performed rather well with 4.3 and last I checked 4.4 is running good( was a slow process in the beginning just before I sold it) this phone is amazing. My only complaints are that is the size after using note 2 I really like having a 5.5+ phone and non removable battery with a relatively small battery.
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Agreed especially Knox
I came from a G2, this phone is tons slower. Unlock after pattern takes a whole second. It's terrible.
Try removing unwanted widgets on your home screen, I tried to make mine very minimalist and it's working fine. Battery life is terrible though
No widgets. There is something very wrong here. Battery life is ultra terrible, you're right. If they don't update the firmware then it'll be a disaster and LG will lose whatever goodwill they built the last few years with the g2 and G3
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This phone seemed rushed and not polished hope a 5.1 update fix this issue with the phone. For a 1080p screen battery drains to much considering the battery size.
I had the same problem with the g3. Laggy and very poor battery life be lucky to have 20% left after 5hrs
this will help with lag
If you do an immediate factory reset after the initial startup when getting it it helps immensely with the lagging issues mine is crazy fast now
The Verge tech site did a review and they observed same lags:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/13/8206953/lg-g-flex-2-review
From the review:
"Did I mention that the scrolling is laggy? That chronic lag also spoils the other jewels in Android’s crown"
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If you do an immediate factory reset after the initial startup when getting it it helps immensely with the lagging issues mine is crazy fast now
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You're not kidding, right? Maybe a dalvik cache flush would work for me. How do you enter recovery on this thing?
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Now that I'm rooted and able to change my gov from interactive to ondemand i see the phone i paid for!
Yes, there is a lag here and there but I don't have any complaints about battery life. It's not as good as G3 but a whole league better than my previous Galaxy S5.
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Yes, there is a lag here and there but I don't have any complaints about battery life. It's not as good as G3 but a whole league better than my previous Galaxy S5.
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I seriously doubt that, like how I doubt that you only get little lag.
No need to lie, man. We all hate it when we dump $700 on a "premium" phone that feels and responds like something out of Fischer Price. I've been there too.
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I seriously doubt that, like how I doubt that you only get little lag.
No need to lie, man. We all hate it when we dump $700 on a "premium" phone that feels and responds like something out of Fischer Price. I've been there too.
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YMMV but I don't have any need to lie. My S5 would go from 100 to 20% in 8 hours with screen off.
G3 under the same conditions, same config/apps 2 days easy.
Flex 2 100 to 50% in 24 hrs.
Edit: Last time I took my wife to a dinner and used my S5 for navigation there. When we left, the phone was 100% charged. When we got back home after approx 3 hrs, the battery was at 15%. That's when I decided I need to try something different (again)
The lag I would compare to my old Note 2 (I still use) which I agree, is unacceptable considering Flex 2 has much better hardware.
I also had a few FCs on contacts which seems to be a common bug of L. (had the same thing with S5 after I upgraded to lollipop)
Lets hope it'll get ironed out with next update.
Oh and it looks like the signal strength is considerably better compared to any of my Galaxies BUT the handoff is slower.
This is the lag you'd get, after running geekbench 3 times in a row.
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And here's the ****ty battery life.
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Well I don't know why but these are my results:
Three times in row. The first two were much better (about 2x better) but the third one... not that stellar. Maybe the much discussed heat throttling? But the phone didn't feel especially hot.
I still cannot complain about the battery.
Both our results are very very bad for an 810 chip
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This is the lag you'd get, after running geekbench 3 times in a row.
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And here's the ****ty battery life.
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Out of curiosity, why did you buy the device and why haven't you returned it yet?
Your lagging issues and battery problems are very common with the Flex 2 because of the power-hungry 810 processor.
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/17/lg-g-flex-2-review/
Performance is unbelievably terrible
I could potentially overlook some of the missing Lollipop features and broken system tools (that’s a lie, I probably couldn’t), but the level of jank and lag in this phone is something you just can’t avoid. I don’t know if LG had to throttle the hell out of the Snapdragon 810 to keep it from melting all of this plastic and so it just can’t keep up, or if Lollipop’s memory leak is to blame, but what I do know is that this phone is the worst performing phone I have used in probably four years. It stutters while swiping between screens. It also needs to be rebooted multiple times per day to function properly. It gets so bad some times that it can’t even load websites properly in Chrome without completely freezing up. I can’t even tell you the number of times that I got so frustrated that I went from hammering on back, home, and app switcher buttons to try to kill current tasks, to being moments away from throwing the phone against a wall. It simply cannot be understated how terrible this phone is to try to complete anything on.
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I bought the flex2 because I didn't believe that it was as terrible as the press claimed, and had to see for myself. What I saw is worse than the press said.
In my country we can't just return things, it has to be defective to return things. Singapore.
Based on some accounts we read here, saying that it's just a batch problem, I can then build a case for return.
I also like to buy bleeding edge devices and see what can be done to redress their problems.
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I bought the flex2 because I didn't believe that it was as terrible as the press claimed, and had to see for myself. What I saw is worse than the press said.
In my country we can't just return things, it has to be defective to return things. Singapore.
Based on some accounts we read here, saying that it's just a batch problem, I can then build a case for return.
I also like to buy bleeding edge devices and see what can be done to redress their problems.
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I think the press was too lenient with this device. It seems like all of them were trying to downplay the lagging issue to get on Qualcomm and LG's good side.
Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, and if you plan on buying another high-end phone this year, I suggest you stick with Samsung.
It seems all the bad rumors about the 810 are true, so it's logical to assume that any phone from LG, htc, SONY, and other OEMs not named Samsung will have the same problems as the G FLex 2.
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I think the press was too lenient with this device. It seems like all of them were trying to downplay the lagging issue to get on Qualcomm and LG's good side.
Anyway, I hope everything works out for you, and if you plan on buying another high-end phone this year, I suggest you stick with Samsung.
It seems all the bad rumors about the 810 are true, so it's logical to assume that any phone from LG, htc, SONY, and other OEMs not named Samsung will have the same problems as the G FLex 2.
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Hi Apple, I dislike Touchwiz intensely. My family has myriad Samsung devices, they suck. The G2 and G3 were masterpieces. I hope that LG can fix this. I'll try switching the device tomorrow but I hope that I will get some information on WHAT serial number works and what doesn't.
My serial number for sucky Flex 2 is 502KPCA003579 LG-H959
I have a H959 version of the LG G Flex 2.
Some of the phones fly, some are very laggy.
Can anyone tell me how to differentiate by serial number what's good and what's bad?
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I have a H959 version of the LG G Flex 2.
Some of the phones fly, some are very laggy.
Can anyone tell me how to differentiate by serial number what's good and what's bad?
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Are you getting lag on H959 then?
I've registered on these forums as I was worried about this lag issue...
My model number is H955 and I'm experiencing serious lag...
Restarting appears to temporarily fix the problem.
very serious lag http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-flex2/general/lg-g-flex-2-lags-crazy-t3055041
They ALL lag.
The people who claim they don't are lying to justify dumping $700 on this phone.
Thank you, caysman, for speaking the truth. OEMs will never want to improve if all we have are people protecting their ego and arrogance. Just admit that you bought the wrong phone. Is that so difficult?
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They ALL lag.
The people who claim they don't are lying to justify dumping $700 on this phone.
Why are you such a d*ck? You haven't tried every phone. You don't know that they all lag. You probably don't even have one. Go back to your iphone. Stop calling everyone a liar!
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My first device was slow and had screen issues and didn't charge. Took it back to Sprint and the one im using now don't lag at all and if it did i would of taken it back to Sprint and got something else and the guy above saying people lying is full of sh=t . Every devices that comes out have good and bad units this ain't something new. My phone now is completely fine night and day difference from my first phone. Sprint give you 14 days to return or get something else im keeping mine it works fine. Stop trolling if you don't have the device stop the( i read on this or that website b.s )they don't even use the Sprint Version.
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They ALL lag.
The people who claim they don't are lying to justify dumping $700 on this phone.
Thank you, caysman, for speaking the truth. OEMs will never want to improve if all we have are people protecting their ego and arrogance. Just admit that you bought the wrong phone. Is that so difficult?
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Quit Trolling you're making yourself look really stupid buddy... Can someone please ban this troll..
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I just have to say we buy what we like. I bought this phone because I like the way it looks, feels, and works. I see some lag but have seen it in other phones. Most of the time it is the skin that is on top of the android software that causes this and once rooted and a different rom is put on there the lag goes away. That is just the way it is I do not understand why people complain about this phone just take it back and get something else and let us that do keep this phone enjoy it.
This is supposed to be the world's fastest phone. It lags like hell because of a defect. Manufacturers should be made aware of their buyers' complaint so that they prioritize a remedy.
This is not slight lag. It is a big **** lag, a very serious mistake or problem. It is something extraordinary not a slight performance issue.
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i think lg made the phone less powerfull to avoide the overheat problem form the snapdragon 810 loser like you are runnig on power saving mod
its the worst phone i have owned on years
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i think lg made the phone less powerfull to avoide the overheat problem form the snapdragon 810 loser like you are running on power saving mod
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This phone really sucks, i owned the flex 1 and even the screen was a **** (slow and grainy) and the camera soso, the speed, battery life and temperature were fine, i was happy with that phone. Then bought the flex2, the screen looks better same as the camera but is really lagging, no matter using the web browser or just checking the notification panel, very often gets slow, for charging i must use the supplied charger because if use a battery pack charge only at 490 mah, the battery life also sucks (compared to the flex1), also already took 2 times to warranty because a yellowish shade on the screen. I wont recommend buy this phone to anyone, LG really made a big mistake, Anyways afraid of buy anything with snapdragon 810 (maybe that is the main problem). I bought the Hong kong version
damn thie phone really sucks
Took my flex 2 back to sprint because of heat issuses and the screen died the 3rd day owning the phone. Since i was within my 14 days i turned it back in for a note 4 and can't be any happier. Stay away from this phone if your planning on spending money for it. I thought it was just my device but it's every flex 2 buy if you want but you been worn people are not lying this phone got issuses software can't help.
Dont know what you guys are doing wrong but it´s a nice phone.
Mine had a Display with an yellow spot Problem but it´s not so bad because I get a new one.
Everything else is fine except the lags but thats only a software Problem.
It was not overheating. The Benchmarks shows that this phone have a great Performance but the ui is not optimized.
Except the 2GB RAM it´s the best phone in My opinion because
- Flex Display (not everyone got that)
- newst CPU
- LG UI (i know it lags but it will be solved . LG gives you much more Options to customize than Samsung and HTC)
- Buttons on the back
There are HTC One M9, Samsung Galaxy S6 but except the S6 Edge there isnt anything much new where you would say that is the Money worth if you got a phone which is still good.
I got a note 3.
In 2 or 3 days I get a new one and then I will Report. If there are Issues which I didint see, I will Report.
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Dont know what you guys are doing wrong but it´s a nice phone.
Mine had a Display with an yellow spot Problem but it´s not so bad because I get a new one.
Everything else is fine except the lags but thats only a software Problem.
It was not overheating. The Benchmarks shows that this phone have a great Performance but the ui is not optimized.
Except the 2GB RAM it´s the best phone in My opinion because
- Flex Display (not everyone got that)
- newst CPU
- LG UI (i know it lags but it will be solved . LG gives you much more Options to customize than Samsung and HTC)
- Buttons on the back
There are HTC One M9, Samsung Galaxy S6 but except the S6 Edge there isnt anything much new where you would say that is the Money worth if you got a phone which is still good.
I got a note 3.
In 2 or 3 days I get a new one and then I will Report. If there are Issues which I didint see, I will Report.
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By lg update history you going to be waiting a great time for that update to fix those issues. The g4 will get all the updates the g flex 2 will be just like the og flex stuck on 4.1.1 hopefully the g4 rom can be ported to work on this phone. The lag didn't bother me just the heat issuses i know there's some good lg flex 2 without issues out there but the i had were bad ones . My first one ran fine no over heating or nothing then when i went to go to make a phone call and the screen was all blk and when i try to pull status bar down it was all kinda funky colors.
Got my update and mine is flying hehehe
Not sure what everyone is complaining about. I get a little stutter here and there but that has been the same thing with pretty much every Android phone I've owned that is not running vanilla Android on it. I have 0 complaints about this phone.
I think it's all about RAM size
I have serious issues when the phone is connected trhough 4G. The phones gets very laggy, and is hotter.
I got my new one since yesterday and now without any problem.
It lags less than before. Only little shutters sometimes but much better since the OTA update.
I like this phone
My first one had an yellow spot on the display. Except that there was only the lag problem but it was without the update.
As the Release of V20 will soon be upon us we reflect back on the failures and success of the V10. Me as a person who waited to get the V10 until it was rooted was very excited for this phone,I was happy with all the specs that it had and the design that had a commanding look but that didn't come without issue also. The fingerprint reader had issue not able to read with a case on it,fake second screen bleed issues. wi-fi is slow or dropping out, data and call issues and last be not least screen retention issues. luckily the phone didn't suffer issues from the G4 which had the death reboot which had the same 808 SD. I have done one replacement and that is because of the calls ,data and screen issues was getting worse which I couldn't take, Since the new one came in I've had little issues with it. thank god
Now with the V20 coming right around the block and after watching the press release I'm very interested to see how this V20 holds up. The looks of the phone could be more desirable but its not bad on the eyes especially with the colors that are being released Titan (very dark grey), Pink, and Silver. People will definitely ask what phone is that( The New Iphone) LOL . The specs are on point with this year flagships 5.7in screen 2k screen , 820SD,4GB ram,64 OBS, 3200mAh battery nothing to brag about and android 7.0 out of the box big plus for them.This phone brings a similar rear camera look and function of the G5 but with improvements of presentation and software which I like, they removed the rear buttons which is kinda a disappointment that they took there LG look away that separated from the rest now it looks like every other phone. In the end this is phone is upgrade worthy and I will most surely deserve a look. With other flagships phone coming out the V20 may have some tough competition only time will time.
Now I wanted write a full blow article but i wanted to keep in short and sweet and also see how well I can put this together seeing it as my first . I hope this small review helps.
Peace
I want to buy lg
01. I never get afraid again lg phone to receive :silly:
02. No support
03. never good option for root
04. power consumption sucks
I have been thinking of getting the 20 also. I have to say my 10 has been a great phone. I am worried about getting root.
I am seriously considering the v20!
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If you find yourself on XDA frequently this may not be the ideal device to upgrade to. Just my opinion.
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If you find yourself on XDA frequently this may not be the ideal device to upgrade to. Just my opinion.
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while it looks great, it honestly isn't enough for me to make the jump. The SD820 is nice, and the DAC is probably a good upgrade, but i just cant see making the jump...
I'm getting the v20. It satisfies all the hardware requirements that I am still clinging to (removable battery, memory expansion, great camera). I'm hoping this upgrade solves the issues I had with the v10 (poor power consumption, crappy speaker quality, weak bluetooth). But I will hope and pray that it gets root, but I'm ok with waiting for that. If I need rooted capabilities, I can go back to one of my old nexus devices.
As it stands, the V20 is a great upgrade for me.
$700 is a lot to just upgrade from the 808 to the 820. Not sure about gamers but i have yet to do anything on my phone that the 808 wasn't able to handle.
That b&o earphone is nice but would be more practical just to buy it lol.
My thoughts are it might be worth it. Couple things I'm weighing:
1. Is 2nd screen a true 2nd screen?
2. The audio improvements only seem to apply to wired headphones?
3. Android 7! Yes!
All else seems equal and I do like the rooted V10
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My thoughts are it might be worth it. Couple things I'm weighing:
1. Is 2nd screen a true 2nd screen?
2. The audio improvements only seem to apply to wired headphones?
3. Android 7! Yes!
All else seems equal and I do like the rooted V10
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No it not a true 2nd screen that what makes me mad
Audio improvements are for Mics, speaker and headphones
Airtioteclint said:
$700 is a lot to just upgrade from the 808 to the 820. Not sure about gamers but i have yet to do anything on my phone that the 808 wasn't able to handle.
That b&o earphone is nice but would be more practical just to buy it lol.
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where do you get the 700 from? this phone is worth that much
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where do you get the 700 from? this phone is worth that much
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Just going by how much the v10 cost.
It's worth it if you're coming from another phone. But not coming from the v10.
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Just going by how much the v10 cost.
It's worth it if you're coming from another phone. But not coming from the v10.
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well the v10 cost 599 on t mobile when it was released last time i checked.may for other carriers it cost that much
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well the v10 cost 599 on t mobile when it was released last time i checked.may for other carriers it cost that much
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I'm looking at my receipt right now. 629.99 with tax came to 685.11.
They charge prepaid more to buy it outright.
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I'm looking at my receipt right now. 629.99 with tax came to 685.11.
They charge prepaid more to buy it outright.
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Okay that would make sense for the high price.
So let me ask you this.What do you think it is worth with these upgrades?
820SD
upgraded camera software for stills and videos
upgraded audio 4 24bit DACs
update modem
I'm tired of the v10.. Getting the v20 no doubt..
With all the hype it's getting, I think the V20 will have a bigger development community. I'm a long time Nexus user and Samsung dev and I'm jumping over to the V20 side of the fence. Grass looks greener there than the Google Pixel side of the fence.
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With all the hype it's getting, I think the V20 will have a bigger development community. I'm a long time Nexus user and Samsung dev and I'm jumping over to the V20 side of the fence. Grass looks greener there than the Google Pixel side of the fence.
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I enjoy my v10 but lack of development & some small issues make me want to upgrade. I am still considering the Note 7.
I love the flagship LG phones but fact is they are becoming more and more locked down and when root finally does come out a new version of android comes out then we have to wait another 3-5 months for a root for that version to come out. This fact that the bootloaders and everything else is so tightly locked down now makes developers shy away from the device which in turn slows down the rooting/unlocking process even further. I think buying the v20 or future LG flagship devices means you accepting that there will be little to no development for it.
In a nutshell.... Before buying flagship LG phones (as awesome as they are), the main question you should be asking yourself is are you comfortable with using it as is out of the box until you get your next phone. I'm a root junkie and always trying to squeeze as much performance and battery life out of my devices as possible so as awesome as it is I'm prob going to team nexus once my v10 goes up the river.
I was gung ho for the upgraded dac, but this time I am waiting it out;
-LG took too long to actually release the phone.
-LG did not upgrade the screen quality, my phone has SERIOUS image ghosting. Basically you can not run this device on full bright (my choice, not everyone), without damaging the screen and the warranty sucks.
-LG did not really offer enough difference vs every other device that has been out for months. Why not add use the 821 or the 823, so the device has some long term life.
-LG seems to have locked the devices down, such that developers don't even care about this device. If you can't root an android device, their is NO BENEFIT over the latest Iphone 7.
It does not appear that LG is going to match the Samsung 256mb sd card freebie, so considering the amazing price drop of the V10 (the phone is only worth $200ish resale and its not even 1yr old), I am going to wait until the resale price drops in a few months, and I certainly won't buy one at $700+ with no ability to root the device.
one should always wait and not buy the first batch of a new product. Screen could have defects (either not glued properly, or light bleeding, etc ), battery could have issues (galaxy note 7) or even the cpu could become better after they mature \perfect the manufacturing process (snapdragon 810 went from being a crap chip January 2015 to an acceptable cpu -Snapdragon 810 v2.1- in September 2015) . The first buyers find the flaws and the company solves the problems in later batches... I have always listen to this Advice..But now I really need to have the phone mid June.. so I should order it soon..
1) from what you have heard , (or if you have the phone already- from what you experienced-) does the phone have such flaws right now?
2) how long does it take to sell out the first batch and bring the second improved batch?
I don't think OnePlus suffer such issues.I bought the Op3 and op6 at launch and they were perfect.didnt hear of anyone having issues,
Though my Op3 had a faulty headphone jack when I sold it and I don't think I ever used it,
Haven't heard anything else
So many assumptions and logical fallacies in OP's thinking.
Realistically, you could apply "could" and what-ifs to 2nd or 3rd batch runs as well. What if they start using cheaper suppliers after the first batch for the battery or the glue? They "could" cheap out on a step during manufacturing because of cost saving changes. They "could" have made the first batch really well to impress reviewers and initial customers to gain a favorable reputation, then gone on to use lower binned processors and parts for the other batches.
... and bring the second improved batch? LOL
Truth is, it's a crap shoot that any batch is going to be good or bad, and this is why you have a warranty.
Had/have the OnePlus 5 and 6. Bought both on first day they went on sale and both were perfect, never had an issue with either. Even the jelly scroll effect wasn't present on mine (a friend's was affected so I did see what it looked like). And I bought the 7 pro the minute it went on sale, the time stamp on the order was 10:03am lol.
I never had issue with a new phone so far no matter whose it was be it the old Droid x or bionic to the Samsung s4, note 3, note 4, Nexus 6p or the OnePlus phone, they've all be great at launch.
manus31 said:
I don't think OnePlus suffer such issues.I bought the Op3 and op6 at launch and they were perfect.didnt hear of anyone having issues,
Though my Op3 had a faulty headphone jack when I sold it and I don't think I ever used it,
Haven't heard anything else
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Eric214 said:
Had/have the OnePlus 5 and 6. Bought both on first day they went on sale and both were perfect, never had an issue with either. Even the jelly scroll effect wasn't present on mine (a friend's was affected so I did see what it looked like). And I bought the 7 pro the minute it went on sale, the time stamp on the order was 10:03am lol.
I never had issue with a new phone so far no matter whose it was be it the old Droid x or bionic to the Samsung s4, note 3, note 4, Nexus 6p or the OnePlus phone, they've all be great at launch.
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Elnrik said:
So many assumptions and logical fallacies in OP's thinking.
Realistically, you could apply "could" and what-ifs to 2nd or 3rd batch runs as well. What if they start using cheaper suppliers after the first batch for the battery or the glue? They "could" cheap out on a step during manufacturing because of cost saving changes. They "could" have made the first batch really well to impress reviewers and initial customers to gain a favorable reputation, then gone on to use lower binned processors and parts for the other batches.
... and bring the second improved batch? LOL
Truth is, it's a crap shoot that any batch is going to be good or bad, and this is why you have a warranty.
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Best answer\comment I have read this year.. Thanks! I will order tomorrow then!