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Hi Everyone. I'm thinking of purchasing a Google Nexus 5 phone but I'm concerned about the video, which is one of the main features I'm looking for in a phone.
I've seen test video of the Nexus 5 and the LG G2 which it is loosely based on as I understand it. Both of these phones have pretty serious "focus hunting" problems when recording video. I don't know if it's because of the optical image stabilization or just a software issue but to me at least, that's unacceptable.
I could not verify by searching anywhere online and in forums if the Nexus 5 has a Touch to Focus or sometimes called a Tap to Focus feature for the video recorder or not. What I'm looking for is the ability to turn off auto-focus and just be able to touch the area on the screen where I want the camera to focus IN REAL-TIME as I'm video recording.
Can anyone tell me if this camera has that feature? If it doesn't, is there an app I can buy that will give me this feature? I know there is an App called Snap Camera HDR I believe, but I can't determine if that app can do this either.
Thanks!
Steve in Chicago, Illinois
Curious about this also..
I will say for certain my nexus 5 takes better pics and video than my iPhone 5.
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myturbo1 said:
Curious about this also..
I will say for certain my nexus 5 takes better pics and video than my iPhone 5.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Well that's great but can you verify whether or not the phone has the manual focus feature I was referring to (Touch to Focus / Tap to Focus) and if you can manually focus in real-time while recording video repeatedly?
Thanks.
If you tap the screen when video is recording it takes a picture. So I'm going to say no tap to focus. At least nothing I can see on mine.
frigidazzi said:
If you tap the screen when video is recording it takes a picture. So I'm going to say no tap to focus. At least nothing I can see on mine.
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Yes, that's precisely what I was afraid of. Too bad. I'm an amateur videographer and am particular about video and video that constantly goes in and out of focus in some scenes is unusable to me. Do you know if there are settings to control the auto-focus? For example, some smart phone video camera apps allow you to set the focus to fixed infinity, rather than auto-focus. That way you can shoot your distance and wide angle shots set that way, then set it back to auto-focus for close-ups and macro shots.
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stevefoobar said:
Yes, that's precisely what I was afraid of. Too bad. I'm an amateur videographer and am particular about video and video that constantly goes in and out of focus in some scenes is unusable to me. Do you know if there are settings to control the auto-focus? For example, some smart phone video camera apps allow you to set the focus to fixed infinity, rather than auto-focus. That way you can shoot your distance and wide angle shots set that way, then set it back to auto-focus for close-ups and macro shots.
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After doing some research, it appears there are Android apps that will do what I'm looking for. In particular, this one seems to work with the Nexus 5 specifically:
Snap Camera HDR
Has anyone tried this app?
And one more thing please. I've never owned a smartphone before. Since this phone has no memory card and only 16 GB of internal memory probably of which only 12 is available for apps, how do you get the video and pictures out of the phone into a PC?
Thanks!
Either cloud storage or just plug it in to usb and copy it to computer. I would recommend the 32gb model especially if you're going to be shooting video.
frigidazzi said:
Either cloud storage or just plug it in to usb and copy it to computer. I would recommend the 32gb model especially if you're going to be shooting video.
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I don't do cloud but it sounds like the USB jack will allow Windows to recognize the internal memory as a hard drive so that will work.
I didn't realize there was a 32 GB model of the Nexus 5. I haven't seen one anywhere.
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I don't do cloud but it sounds like the USB jack will allow Windows to recognize the internal memory as a hard drive so that will work. [...]
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That's correct.
I just took a video with Snap and was able to focus on the points I want while taking video.
~Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5~
I think you can only get the 32gb from Google play store.
MowTow said:
That's correct.
I just took a video with Snap and was able to focus on the points I want while taking video.
~Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5~
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Awesome! Thanks.
frigidazzi said:
I think you can only get the 32gb from Google play store.
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Yes, it does appear that way. Too bad. They certainly aren't the least expensive option and they don't sell refurbished phones.
I've tried multiple times to capture slow motion video. While recording, I can see that the image skips and sticks. Sure enough, when I play it back the skips and stutters are in the video itself. This makes slo motion unusable if it's not smooth. My S5 did a pretty good job at with slow motion. I think the resolution was better as well. Really disappointing to find yet another feature that is worse on the S6.
Example: https://vid.me/wbYs[1]
Even worse, and it shows how out of sync the audio is: https://vid.me/zx5i[2]
And it's not just me. I can see it in this person's clip that starts around :25 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9srWjFM-OQ [3]
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouV9N-KuEVk [4]
I don't even see an option on my s6 camera to do slow motion recording.
Sorry, wish I had something to add.
AustinTech said:
I don't even see an option on my s6 camera to do slow motion recording.
Sorry, wish I had something to add.
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Open the camera app and tap the "Mode" button. You'll see it listed there.
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Yeah I have noticed this as well very disappointing. When i try to do a slo mo video there is a lot of "jank" in it. Hopefully it is just a software issue they can fix with future updates.
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I've had the exact opposite result. All of my slow motion videos have turned out excellent even at 1/8th speed.
This isn't the best one I have, but one I tested out on youtube when I got the phone..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAnhS_oPlf8
Seems pretty good to me.
Tgrable said:
I've had the exact opposite result. All of my slow motion videos have turned out excellent even at 1/8th speed.
This isn't the best one I have, but one I tested out on youtube when I got the phone..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAnhS_oPlf8
Seems pretty good to me.
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Thanks for the sample. hat is the best S6 slow motion video I have seen. I didn't see any jump in frames. The worst thing about it is the resolution, but at least it's smooth.
I know that some S6s have different camera sensors. No one has even considered that it could cause anything like this (only slight color variation, etc.). So, hopefully it's a software issue that will get fixed. Not gonna hold my breath though.
Ya YouTube kills the quality some too. I think I recorded that at 720p though since 720 has 240 fps capture to 1080s 120.
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Tgrable said:
Ya YouTube kills the quality some too. I think I recorded that at 720p though since 720 has 240 fps capture to 1080s 120.
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Hmm, I thought 1080p could only do 60fps (and that's set in the video settings, not in "slow motion mode"). Whenever I select slow motion mode, the resolution automatically changes to 720p (and it doesn't really tell you that).
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The Slow Motion Video from the S6 was a positive surprise for me!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/slow-motion-phones-device-how-to-imo-t2998500
Hannah Stern said:
The Slow Motion Video from the S6 was a positive surprise for me!
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Nice try, Samsung... ::cyclops:
AustinTech said:
I don't even see an option on my s6 camera to do slow motion recording.
Sorry, wish I had something to add.
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On your Camera-UI, there is a MODE-Button.
There, you can navigate to the Slow-Motion-Mode.
ergalthema said:
I've tried multiple times to capture slow motion video. While recording, I can see that the image skips and sticks. Sure enough, when I play it back the skips and stutters are in the video itself. This makes slo motion unusable if it's not smooth. My S5 did a pretty good job at with slow motion. I think the resolution was better as well. Really disappointing to find yet another feature that is worse on the S6.
Example: https://vid.me/wbYs[1]
Even worse, and it shows how out of sync the audio is: https://vid.me/zx5i[2]
And it's not just me. I can see it in this person's clip that starts around :25 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9srWjFM-OQ [3]
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouV9N-KuEVk [4]
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znel52 said:
Yeah I have noticed this as well very disappointing. When i try to do a slo mo video there is a lot of "jank" in it. Hopefully it is just a software issue they can fix with future updates.
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For all those who are dissapointed with slow mo quality and feel like throwing away your Samsung and cursing it like hell, here's the solution:
1. Record ur slow mo
2. Open the video
3. Hold and press down the highlighted slow mo part i.e between the sliders.. you will see a pop up which shows a rectangular trim box and 1/8.
4. Select 1/8 and you will see 1/2,1/4 and 1/8 options..
5. Now select 1/4 and play the video
Tadaaaa!! now you have epic slow mo video!!
EthanDev said:
For all those who are dissapointed with slow mo quality and feel like throwing away your Samsung and cursing it like hell, here's the solution:
1. Record ur slow mo
2. Open the video
3. Hold and press down the highlighted slow mo part i.e between the sliders.. you will see a pop up which shows a rectangular trim box and 1/8.
4. Select 1/8 and you will see 1/2,1/4 and 1/8 options..
5. Now select 1/4 and play the video
Tadaaaa!! now you have epic slow mo video!!
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We're not talking about the loss of frame rate or anything else like that, we're talking about the 720p resolution, and all the little bits of artifacts that are in the video after we record them at 120 frames per second.
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My video seems to have a weird shaking to it. Here is an example of a video I uploaded to YouTube. https://youtu.be/X8BMR9kxzYI
This issue is regularly alluded as the precarious camera disorder and influences every single home feature that are shot with hand-held camcorders and cell phones. The feature quality could be extraordinary but since of unsteady footage, they are hard to watch.
cogcaviz24 said:
My video seems to have a weird shaking to it. Here is an example of a video I uploaded to YouTube. https://youtu.be/X8BMR9kxzYI
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Hold the camera more still? Or it looks like you might be using YouTube's anti shake thing which also make its look horrible.
I was holding it steady and I didn't used YouTube's video stabilization. I've haven't seen this issue on videos from other devices I have owned.
cogcaviz24 said:
I was holding it steady and I didn't used YouTube's video stabilization. I've haven't seen this issue on videos from other devices I have owned.
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Sit it on a flat table and record the floor and see if its doing it.
I saw this tweet yesterday and have been finding a video recorded with the V10 but if this is true it is awesome. Especially considering a port over to the G4(almost identical in software and internals).
LG's entire demo video for the V10 was shot on the V10. Most impressive part is the stabilization: smooth as glass.
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What was wrong with it ?
One Twelve said:
What was wrong with it ?
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If you haven't a G4 let me inform you that it stabilization is robotic and causes wobbly videos driving me mad a times. My Z3 with DIS isn't this bad. Only downside to DIS is cropping but because Sony sensors have more MP it isn't too much of an issue. My G4 video recording is wobbly especially when panning.
Heard video stabilisation improved with the previous update. Did you not get it yet?
btw, that clip you mentioned isn't using panning, its like they are moving ahead. In fact panning AFAIK has no problems its the walking ahead bit that some have trouble with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5eekB9A2w
It's only a few seconds, but the V10's image does look a bit less wobbly than the iPhone image.
The reason its look less wobbly is there is a *NEW* steady shot setting in video on the v10. learnt this when i watched some videos that showed the camera ui. you have the option to have it on or off.
What are the chances of this coming to the G4?
According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
easycure1974 said:
According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
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If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
lawtq said:
If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
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Yes is seems very strange - it will be interesting to read more about this
lawtq said:
If that's true why is their 4k recording so shaky?
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Hardware is useless, if the software haven't being configured to use it.
I hope huawei add the stabilisation to 4K mode soon
otonieru said:
Hardware is useless, if the software haven't being configured to use it.
I hope huawei add the stabilisation to 4K mode soon
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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Well it's not really old, end of 2017. It's definitely powerful enough. Just not as powerful as Qualcoms latest on paper and in benchmarks. That's to be expected though. Even much older less powerful chips can handle 4k with ois.
There is nothing on android that can even push the SoC's from 3 years ago. The hardware is just way ahead of the software. It's all a race to get the best looking specs on paper now, regardless of whether it's actually needed or not.
In my own testing the P20 Pro is just as quick in pretty much anything other than benchmarks, which in real life usage mean nothing. Its all about the user experience. There isn't a game to push the latest hardware and won't be even towards the end of life of all these new gen devices.
Not sure why they didn't include it. The hardware is more than capable.
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Well it's not really old, end of 2017. It's definitely powerful enough. Just not as powerful as Qualcoms latest on paper and in benchmarks. That's to be expected though. Even much older less powerful chips can handle 4k with ois.
There is nothing on android that can even push the SoC's from 3 years ago. The hardware is just way ahead of the software. It's all a race to get the best looking specs on paper now, regardless of whether it's actually needed or not.
In my own testing the P20 Pro is just as quick in pretty much anything other than benchmarks, which in real life usage mean nothing. Its all about the user experience. There isn't a game to push the latest hardware and won't be even towards the end of life of all these new gen devices.
Not sure why they didn't include it. The hardware is more than capable.
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Good points! I hope you're right. 1080p ain't enough anymore
easycure1974 said:
According to this article all the rear cameras has ois and not just one as Huawei informed us about. Are they trying to make their AI software looking better than it actually is? All other phone makers would have bragged about ois on all three cameras
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...pro-optical-image-stabilization-triple-camera
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I really hope that they add the stabilisation to 4k videos because now is terrible... And videos shot in full HD look very poor quality...
If hardware is on board I don't want to be cheated by Huawei
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Why do you think they haven't already? Cause the 970 isn't capable. Hopefully they do though. This phone would be exciting if it wasn't for the old chipset! Sigh
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This is simply not true. 970 is almost as capable as 2017 exynos and snapdragon.
But honestly. I've been living around thousand people everyday, and i find, there's less than hundred of them would record video on daily basis,
And when they did, they either do it in 1080 or 720.
Why ? Because most of it would end in social media. And uploading something as huge as 4K simply wont do for most people,
Not to mention most of phone out there which used to watch the video later on are mostly still on full HD resolution as well.
I understand the argument from people who said they shoot it to be watch on their 4K TV. But they are not majority in the community.
Heck, i even can count with my finger, how many times i have recorded a video using my mobile phone from january last year up to today. LoL. Am simply a "still image" guy
Thats why,
As bad as missing 4K stabilisation in spec sheet, it wont have that as huge impact in daily life user.
But, surely thats bad for marketing communication. And reviewer will use it again and again as a weak point.
I shoot videos occasionally but only in 1080p regardless of which phone or camera I use.
It's just amateur video for my personal view not for commercial so no point to waste space.
Regarding there being nothing that even taxes older SoCs to their limits - anyone who does emulator gaming can tell you there certainly are use case scenarios that do. My Mate 10 handles a lot of emulation well enough, but the likes of Dolphin are better on better performing SoCs nevertheless (this is not all down to raw power though, how well drivers are implemented also makes a difference, however most mobile drivers are rubbish across the board, so the brute force of higher chip speeds is welcomed here).
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And when they did, they either do it in 1080 or 720.
Why ? Because most of it would end in social media. And uploading something as huge as 4K simply wont do for most people,
Not to mention most of phone out there which used to watch the video later on are mostly still on full HD resolution as well.
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Exactly this, most video is used for social media now, where it gets compressed to helll and viewed on tiny screens. There is no real need to push for 4K recording and those that really want it will probably buy dedicated recorders or a gimbal.
Btw the super slo-mo on this is good! Saw Diversity at the weekend, apologises for the shake at the start, daughter was bouncing up and down lol
https://twitter.com/DaveP2611/status/983071212984299521
@DaveP2611 quick question about the slow-mo, how do you actually setup the device for slow mo recording?
Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
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Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
5nak3 said:
@DaveP2611 quick question about the slow-mo, how do you actually setup the device for slow mo recording?
Is is similar to older Samsung devices where you record a video using the slow mo function and then select which part of the video to slow down and by what ammount?
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It's an option within the camera, under More, you then have a Slow-Mo option, under x4/x8 there doesn't seem to be any recording length limit, the x32 seems to be a snapshot of ten seconds and picks when it slows down itself as seen in the clip I posted.
Awesome, thanks for the quick reply!
Shame you can't pick out the section of the video you want to slow down at x32. It's one of the things I think my note 4 did well despite only having x8 slowmo capture.
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Awesome, thanks for the quick reply!
Shame you can't pick out the section of the video you want to slow down at x32. It's one of the things I think my note 4 did well despite only having x8 slowmo capture.
I really think that all the stabilization in pictures is done via OIS and they just claim it’s the magic of AI just to use that as a differential marketing advantage.Maybe AI is not so smart / cutting edge...
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I really think that all the stabilization in pictures is done via OIS and they just claim it’s the magic of AI just to use that as a differential marketing advantage.Maybe AI is not so smart / cutting edge...
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Thats not really the case as well, since by using it to shoot, i can definitely tell that sometimes, there simply no OIS. OIS movement will always seen in preview prior to shoot. You can see it move the picture to the opposite direction of your hand movement. And when there's no feedback/counter movement, you can tell that no OIS in action.
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justyourimage said:
Well, and an AI isn't an AI if it isn't intelligent.
That's marketing for you.
They simply named their Auto-Mode to AI-Powered because they managed to implement a few "new" things that don't work properly for what it was intended for (shooting good pictures from the hip).
I mean it's not like there were things like Dual Pixel AF and Laser AF were invented for no reason ... and they work most of the time (for what they were made for) unless the manufacturer ****s really up.
Now I can die happly. Especially knowing that they haven't even enabled OIS for the photos AND video.
I would have never guessed some manufacturer to **** up so badly ... let's see if they will ever "fix" or even "admit" it.
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It's more amazing you would jump to conclusion so easily.
https://www.anandtech.com/comments/12633/cadence-announces-tensilica-vision-q6-dsp/596655
Look in the comments section. Wait for the full review if you want to know all the technical details.
All that that tear-down showed is that the modules have an auto-focus mechanism. Just because the lens wobbles doesn't mean it's OIS.
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Just go to the shop and try it out and make up your own minds instead of following what people complain nonstop on the internet. The echo chamber is ridiculous. The 1080p video stabilization for example is amazing trying it in person, the most likely reason they aren't doing it on 4k is that the hardware is not capable of doing it.
I'm not sure the kirin 970's isp is powerful enough, or have the bandwidth, to stabilize 4k. I imagine it would be there if it was possible.
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