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Hi guys, I'm currently torn between a few phones,
can you help me?
My budget is up to 300 euros (MAX), I can purchase the phone from either Netherlands or Germany, does anyone know any good shops there btw?
Anyway,
My question is which is better, the LG Optimus 2X (299 Euro), Xperia Sola (279 Euro) or Xperia Arc S (279 Euro)
I'm pretty much looking for the best gaming performance, the LG has Tegra2, the Sola has Mali-400MP 1 Core, and the Arc S has Adreno 205,
There is no comparison between these GPUs, I've searched for hours, and also there's no comparison of the Mali-400 single core to quad core variant anywhere!
Also, there's no definitive comparison between a Dual Core 1GHZ Cortex A9 to a single core 1.4GHZ Snapdragon Scorpion CPU!
This is what I've got so far, only the stuff I care about in the phone (for example, I don't care about the camera or whether its TFT or AMOLED).
1. LG Optimus 2X
-Dual core 1.0ghz and Tegra2 Seems to be the best. (Good)
-4.0" Screen (Good)
-Battery performance seems to be in the gutter ~1500mAh. (Bad)
-More Expensive
2. Xperia Sola
-Dual core and Mali-400MP1 (Good or bad?)
-Battery built into phone, can't replace it or get a replacement battery, 1320mAh. (Bad)
-3.7" Screen (Average)
-Coolness factor - Hover touch and cool Tags, NFC Capable
3. Arc S
-Single Core 1.4GHZ (Good or bad?)
-Adreno 205 (Good or bad?)
-4.2" Screen (Good)
-Average Battery life
Thanks in advance!!!
I would go with the LG Optimus 2X. But, I'm no expert. I would be interested in what others think.
I would completely eliminate the xperia arc S b/c it is a single core and that it has an outdated adreno 205 gpu. That means you will get lag and not be very optimal for gaming.
That said, the top gpu in your choices is most definitely the Mali 400 in the Xperia Sola. It is better than the Tegra 2 in almost all aspects. Tegra 2 also has one major drawback and that it does not have NEON support. NEON is basically a video optimization software built into the gpu, but Tegra does not have it, so some video formats cannot play properly or not at all.
As for comparisons, here is one: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/16
The Tegra 2 is labeled as the ULP GeForce and you will see that the Mali 400 blows it out of the water.
Also on a side note, there are many hardware problems with the LG Optimus 2X, like random reboots or bad signal, so overall, in terms of build quality, cpu and graphics, go for a xperia sola.
vx117 said:
I would completely eliminate the xperia arc S b/c it is a single core and that it has an outdated adreno 205 gpu. That means you will get lag and not be very optimal for gaming.
That said, the top gpu in your choices is most definitely the Mali 400 in the Xperia Sola. It is better than the Tegra 2 in almost all aspects. Tegra 2 also has one major drawback and that it does not have NEON support. NEON is basically a video optimization software built into the gpu, but Tegra does not have it, so some video formats cannot play properly or not at all.
As for comparisons, here is one: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/16
The Tegra 2 is labeled as the ULP GeForce and you will see that the Mali 400 blows it out of the water.
Also on a side note, there are many hardware problems with the LG Optimus 2X, like random reboots or bad signal, so overall, in terms of build quality, cpu and graphics, go for a xperia sola.
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I was basing my recommendation on the Mali GPU in the Galaxy S2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked.
Also, this article suggests the Tegra 2 is better: http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
But, as I said, I know very little about these GPUs and phones.
Python. said:
I was basing my recommendation on the Mali GPU in the Galaxy S2: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/samsungs-galaxy-s-ii-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked.
Also, this article suggests the Tegra 2 is better: http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-mali-400mp-gpu-and-vs-tegra-2/.
But, as I said, I know very little about these GPUs and phones.
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Well, most articles favor Mali 400 MP. Both are strong gpu's, but the lack of NEON video optimization is a deal breaker.
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Well, most articles favor Mali 400 MP. Both are strong gpu's, but the lack of NEON video optimization is a deal breaker.
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The Mali is a good gpu but you should know that the sola has a Mali 400 mp1
that means it's singlecore but the gpu of the s2 is the Mali 400mp4 it's the quadcore version:banghead:
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oh yeah, you're right, that is a Mali 400 MP1. I wasn't aware of that. That really sucks then.
If thats the case, then go with the LG Optimus 2X. The Tegra 2 has a 8 core gpu. That's definitely better than a single core gpu anyday.
Sorry for the confusion.
Galaxy s3
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emilfadillah said:
Galaxy s3
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The Galaxy S3, although a great phone, is 500 euros which is far beyond the OP's budget.
Since you'll be gaming, the most powerful gpu and the longest battery life matter most. LG wins both counts.Get the LG,flash a barebones ROM that frees up ram and increases battery life,and game away.
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LG released a fix for the restarting bug I found on the net.
It plays H264 MKV files no? are the missing codecs that much of a problem?
Thanks for the help guys!!
But just last thing, 1.4GHZ single core VS 1.0GHZ dual core = dual core winner?
Mali-400MP 1 Core VS Adreno 205 = Mali winner?
opala said:
LG released a fix for the restarting bug I found on the net.
It plays H264 MKV files no? are the missing codecs that much of a problem?
Thanks for the help guys!!
But just last thing, 1.4GHZ single core VS 1.0GHZ dual core = dual core winner?
Mali-400MP 1 Core VS Adreno 205 = Mali winner?
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Arc S > Sola in all areas.
Mali 400mp1 < adreno 205 it's just that adreno is aging.
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I'm planning to buy a new android phone and my budget is 200 to 250 EUR.
The component thats bugging me a lot is the GPU. I am seeing old Adreno 200 GPUs on new phones like the Desire V.
#1-So is it really a factor that affects the overall performance of the phone?
#2-And which is the best?
I have seen phones equipped with Mali 400MP,Adreno 200,205,220 and 225,SGX 540...and those Tegra chips from LG Optimus Series.
Which one is the best?
#3-And the phone on my mind is Desire X(will be released soon),and many pages say that it comes with an Adreno 203 chip.Now whats Adreno 203?
And hows its performance?
Guys...
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yzak58 said:
I'm planning to buy a new android phone and my budget is 200 to 250 EUR.
The component thats bugging me a lot is the GPU. I am seeing old Adreno 200 GPUs on new phones like the Desire V.
#1-So is it really a factor that affects the overall performance of the phone?
#2-And which is the best?
I have seen phones equipped with Mali 400MP,Adreno 200,205,220 and 225,SGX 540...and those Tegra chips from LG Optimus Series.
Which one is the best?
#3-And the phone on my mind is Desire X(will be released soon),and many pages say that it comes with an Adreno 203 chip.Now whats Adreno 203?
And hows its performance?
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GPU's are not the biggest factor no, as long as the CPU and RAM is enough overall performance will not be effected by the GPU.
Some games that are very 3D intensive would befit from a more powerful GPU yes, and for some games the Tegra 3 chip allows for better shading and water effects etc
thanks zac
GPU are saparated ram allocated for gaming..
More the gpu better the gaming performance...
It means 400mali is better than 200 adreno..
Other thing gpu does not effects over all performance but it effects clarity of graphics and display visualiTy...
So in 250 eur.
I Think galaxy S2 is good choice..
Good processor
Good gpu
Good screen resolution..
we all should be polite enough to press thanks for anyone who helped US.
i think ram comes first.
larger ram can make your phone work smoother(except games).
thanks
ok guys :good:
rainbow9 said:
i think ram comes first.
larger ram can make your phone work smoother(except games).
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Actually its both . RAM also has a major impact on games. The better the GPU, the lower the impact on the RAM since the device won't need to be put under too much "strain" to process the graphics (also requiring a good CPU).
GPU IS IMPORTANT FOR SMOOTH OS PERFORMANCE. The current OS uses GPU acceleration to smooth things out ig. ICS and JB. Many ROMS also enable GPU to increase performance throughout the OS. If you have a snapdragon, then it uses RAM from the phone for RAM on the GPU where as Tegra has it's own dedicated RAM for its GPU.
AJ88 said:
GPU are saparated ram allocated for gaming..
More the gpu better the gaming performance...
It means 400mali is better than 200 adreno..
Other thing gpu does not effects over all performance but it effects clarity of graphics and display visualiTy...
So in 250 eur.
I Think galaxy S2 is good choice..
Good processor
Good gpu
Good screen resolution..
we all should be polite enough to press thanks for anyone who helped US.
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The no. in the card's name does not reflect the ram it has.It reflects the model number.And of course the Mali mp-400 is better than the Adreno 200.It performs better than the Tegra 2.
Here's the performance order of previous generation chips :
Mali Mp-400>PowerVR SGX 540>Adreno 205 >> Tegra 2.
Maybe the Adreno 205 isn't THAT much better than the Tegra 2,but the Tegra 2 is highly over-rated,and the Mali mp-400 pulls cleanly ahead of it.
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GPU IS IMPORTANT FOR SMOOTH OS PERFORMANCE. The current OS uses GPU acceleration to smooth things out ig. ICS and JB. Many ROMS also enable GPU to increase performance throughout the OS. If you have a snapdragon, then it uses RAM from the phone for RAM on the GPU where as Tegra has it's own dedicated RAM for its GPU.
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oh..thanks for the info...
So you are saying that Tegra chips come with its own inbuilt RAM?
So...much mbs of RAM(or RAM equivalent or whatever) is in a Tegra chip?
yzak58 said:
oh..thanks for the info...
So you are saying that Tegra chips come with its own inbuilt RAM?
So...much mbs of RAM(or RAM equivalent or whatever) is in a Tegra chip?
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I think it's 64MB or something like that for the Tegra 2.Doesn't really matter though.If you get anything better than the Adreno 200,it's good.
do Samsung galaxy mini has GPU?
Go for Tegra 3, mate
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do Samsung galaxy mini has GPU?
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Yes, it does have a GPU. It has an Adreno 200.
You know, I have been using for some time a(pretty old by now) LG Optimus One. It has an Adreno 200 GPU and an ARMv6 600 Mhz CPU.
Even if I overclock it to 800Mhz and maximize the ROM performance in every way possible, GTA3 for example runs pretty much non-playable(very low FPS).
The Optimus One uses a Qualcomm MSM7227 SoC(2009). But in 2011 Qualcomm released the MSM7227A(used for example in Galaxy Mini 2) which also has an Adreno 200 for GPU, but it uses a much better ARMv7 800Mhz Cortex-A5 CPU. The GPU coupled with this much more capable CPU handles GTA 3 really good, playable without problems.
That's really interesting to me, to say the least. It's like you would have a good video card in your PC, but it was bottlenecked by the CPU. And Adreno 200 is quite old.
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nundoo said:
You know, I have been using for some time a(pretty old by now) LG Optimus One. It has an Adreno 200 GPU and an ARMv6 600 Mhz CPU.
Even if I overclock it to 800Mhz and maximize the ROM performance in every way possible, GTA3 for example runs pretty much non-playable(very low FPS).
The Optimus One uses a Qualcomm MSM7227 SoC(2009). But in 2011 Qualcomm released the MSM7227A(used for example in Galaxy Mini 2) which also has an Adreno 200 for GPU, but it uses a much better ARMv7 800Mhz Cortex-A5 CPU. The GPU coupled with this much more capable CPU handles GTA 3 really good, playable without problems.
That's really interesting to me, to say the least. It's like you would have a good video card in your PC, but it was bottlenecked by the CPU. And Adreno 200 is quite old.
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It has an enhanced Adreno 200.That's how it gets better graphics score in AnTuTu.And I'm surprised you can't run GTA3.I can play Dead Space no lag on my Wildfire S,even at stock,and that looks just as intensive as GTA3.
Although I do agree the CPU might be a bottleneck,it shouldn't affect 3D gaming.The UI becomes really smooth @ 825Mhz,which surprises me as it lags in comparison at even 806Mhz.
Dead Space also runs very good on Optimus One, GTA 3 is much more demanding.
It has to do with the fact that GTA is an open world game which requires more background processing rather than current processing that the majority of android games use. I believe that the CPU does the background processing which is why it lags. This also explains why the galaxy mini can play GTA while having a similar clocked CPU, the architecture.
soo
Soo is the desire x better than tegra 2?
Or more detailt
Htc desire x is it better than my lg optimus 2x.
Htc has more ram. But i dont like that i has the adreno 203 is it ****?
Help plz
Hi!
I wanted to try getting a samsung s3 clone. Already spotted some phone is our place having better specs but still I can decide which should I go that's why Im posting here to ask everyone who had tried this kind of phones.
My first choice and what I'm really been eyeing :
- QUAD-CORE ARMv7 PROCESSOR(VFPv3,NEON)
- SCREEN RESOLUTION: 720 x 1280
- GPU RENDERER: POWERVR SGX 531
- GPU VERSION (OPENGL): OPENGLE ES 2.0
- ANTUTU SCORE : 9789
Cant really tell exactly whats the actual CPU used but antutu doesnt detect it as any MTK cpu. The specs is really impressive except that it uses and SGX 531 for gpu at 720. I wonder if I could play NOVA 3 with this phone.
Second choice :
- CPU: Mediatek MT6577 1.4Ghz ( Dual Core )
- GPU: Mali 400 ( Quad GPU )
- RAM: 512MB DDR3
- Resolution: 720 x 1280 ( 16M Colors )
- Antutu Score : 6745
This phone has less impressive CPU but the gpu used is quite superior than of the first one. Seen someone using this and able to run NOVA 3. I know benchmark tools are not as realistic than of the actual use.
Both phones have :
- RAM: 512MB DDR3
- Storage: 4GB ROM ( 2.5GB Usable / Expandable up to 32GB Micro SD Card )
- Camera: Dual Camera 8MP Back & 1.3MP
- Connectivity: 3G, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS
- SIM Card: Single SIM ( 1 Micro SIM )
- Operating System: Android v4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich
I really prefer to get the first one since its a quad-core and it scores a whooping 9k in antutu its only drawback is that it uses SGX531 gpu. Anybody tried playing HD games at 720p resolution with SGX531 gpu? Please tell me if NOVA 3 is playable in my first choice or should I trade the cpu for better gpu and get the second one?
Also, I was already able to watch this VIDEO i wonder if quadcore would make a difference in gameplay.
Thanks in advance for the response! :highfive:
any idea guys?
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any idea guys?
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Don't buy sgx531, it's a low end gpu by today's standard. Mali400 is ALOT better and can play most games.
It's not point buying a quadcore cpu paired with a low end gpu, basically you will suffer at games.
I agree with tablighs...
Released on 6th march 13 in india, this cheap tab, cost arround Rs 5990, approx $120 has good specs as far as performance is concern.
1.6Ghz dual core CPU, quad core mali 400 GPU, 1gb ddr3 ram, 8 gb internal memory, most probably using RK3066 chipset.
7" 480x800 display, capacitive 5 point multitouch screen, 4.1 jelly bean os etc.
Gonna buy this device expecting this device will support heavy 3D games, and more important xda shall play a good role to develop custom roms, kernal etc. for this device.
What y'all think?
Title says it all. Some are unplayable, some are lagging like hell. Even when I try freeing up my memory from different processes it still lags
Specs:
cpu: Cortex-A9, 1GHz DUAL CORE
gpu: PowerVR SGX 531/OpenGL ES 2.0
ram: 512 mb
os: android 4.0.4
Any suggestions?
Judging by the specs, that's a phone from a few years back.
The only way you're going to substantially improve gaming performance is by upgrading to the newest generation of quad core qualcomm/adreno phones.
Raspharus said:
Title says it all. Some are unplayable, some are lagging like hell. Even when I try freeing up my memory from different processes it still lags
Specs:
cpu: Cortex-A9, 1GHz DUAL CORE
gpu: PowerVR SGX 531/OpenGL ES 2.0
ram: 512 mb
os: android 4.0.4
Any suggestions?
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actually, In this phone you cant play games such as Modern Combat 3: Fallen Nation!!. it will run it will lag on action places and will get Force Closed at high action places... and same on other high-end games!
That is to be expected with those specs...
To run a 3D game truly smoothly, you'll need at least a Snapdragon 600, 2GB RAM, and an Adreno 320 or an Nvidia.
Preferably a Snapdragon 800/805, 3GB RAM and an Adreno 330/420.
ShadowLea said:
That is to be expected with those specs...
To run a 3D game truly smoothly, you'll need at least a Snapdragon 600, 2GB RAM, and an Adreno 320 or an Nvidia.
Preferably a Snapdragon 800/805, 3GB RAM and an Adreno 330/420.
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Not fully true.. All the games such as Modern combat blackout, GTA iii, Dead trigger 2, NOVA 3, Modern combat 4 and Real racing 3..work flawlessly on RAZR M 1GB ram adreno 220....and yup truely smooth...and also you req is right to play some Extra HD games Such as CoD strike team, Gta sanadries.. These games won't work on RAZR M...