Just bought a Z3 and it has the faintest hairline crack across the middle of the back glass, which to be honest really doesn't bother me at all, as I got the phone for a very good price, but just wondered will this make the phone NON-WATERPROOF ?
I'm not sure. There was a story of one Z2 surviving in over 10m/30ft of sea water for several weeks with no water damage. In the article there were a few pics and the back cover was severely cracked.
You could always try the pressure test - http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
shtepsel said:
I'm not sure. There was a story of one Z2 surviving in over 10m/30ft of sea water for several weeks with no water damage. In the article there were a few pics and the back cover was severely cracked.
You could always try the pressure test - http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
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Wow, thanks for that tip, just did that test and the pressure increased each time, so I guess its OK then, right time to jump in the bath
Are you really going to take your phone with you in the bath and submerge it for no reason? Hot water viscosity will be different to cold and easier to get inside your phone.
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Are you really going to take your phone with you in the bath and submerge it for no reason? Hot water viscosity will be different to cold and easier to get inside your phone.
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No only kidding, as long as the z3 holds up if it gets wet whilst out on a run or using in the rain, I'll be happy. Not going to be submerging it any time soon.
I'd put some duct tape on it. Good to go.
There is a pressure test in this forum that using service menu that will give you an idea. Mine has a crack but is still waterproof. By that, I've only had it splashed and dipped quickly in a pool. I wouldn't take it very deep as I imagine the water pressure would open the crack a bit wider and let water in (however I'm not sure if the glass is the phone colour or if the glass is clear and the phone colour is a plastic cover behind the glass which would mean help with stopping water getting in after a crack)
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After owning the Gear S2 Classic for a little over a week, I noticed yesterday that the bezel is now a lot easier to rotate then it used to. I am concerned that something is wrong or wearing out prematurely. I kinda liked the amount of resistance it had before. It is still functioning but the rotation clicks are less noticeable and it takes almost not effort to rotate the bezel, making it feel cheap compared to how it was initially. I am still under the 15 days return policies at Best Buy. I was wondering if anyone has noticed this kind of changes over time? For example I think I needed to grasp with two fingers to rotate before and now I can do it with just one.
I have the opposite problem. After owning the Gear S2 3G for several months, the bezel gets sticky after turning it a few times, like I'm tightening a screw. If I continue turning the bezel or reverse the direction, it becomes loose again. I put a few drops of 3-in-1 oil in the gap between the bezel and the watch, and it helped the problem. However, after a week it started feeling sticky again.
Dont you make it worser by putting oil in there? Dust can get everywhere. Dust and oil isnt really a good mixture.
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Dont you make it worser by putting oil in there? Dust can get everywhere. Dust and oil isnt really a good mixture.
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Not really. 3-in-1 oil is made to lubricate moving parts and clean tools/guns. The bezel turns nicely after applying a few drops of 3-in-1 oil, but it doesn't stay that way for more than a few weeks.
Another poster pointed out the Gear S2 is water resistant to level IP68. I tried cleaning it with warm water and some dish washing liquid, but I got the same result as using the 3-in-1 oil. I guess I just need to clean the watch every few weeks.
Zagzagel said:
Not really. 3-in-1 oil is made to lubricate moving parts and clean tools/guns. The bezel turns nicely after applying a few drops of 3-in-1 oil, but it doesn't stay that way for more than a few weeks.
Another poster pointed out the Gear S2 is water resistant to level IP68. I tried cleaning it with warm water and some dish washing liquid, but I got the same result as using the 3-in-1 oil. I guess I just need to clean the watch every few weeks.
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That was me
Given that we don't know anything about the materials or construction of the seals, I wouldn't put anything other than water -- which the watch it expressly designed to tolerate. 3-in-1 is great for lubricating metal bearings like door hinges; I wouldn't introduce it (or any other lubricant/solvent) into a mechanism sealed against water intrusion, where there will be rubber/silicone parts that might not tolerate the oil.
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That was me
Given that we don't know anything about the materials or construction of the seals, I wouldn't put anything other than water -- which the watch it expressly designed to tolerate. 3-in-1 is great for lubricating metal bearings like door hinges; I wouldn't introduce it (or any other lubricant/solvent) into a mechanism sealed against water intrusion, where there will be rubber/silicone parts that might not tolerate the oil.
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Good point. If the waterproof seals are made of rubber or plastic, a silicone oil should be used instead of petroleum. However, I'm just going to follow your advice and use soap and water when it gets sticky.
Zagzagel said:
Good point. If the waterproof seals are made of rubber or plastic, a silicone oil should be used instead of petroleum. However, I'm just going to follow your advice and use soap and water when it gets sticky.
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I wouldn't even use any soap either unless necessary. While soap is far less risky than an oil, if water will do the trick alone that's the best answer.
Incrementalism, my friend Use a little soap only if necessary...
OK, so i wear my watch from wake up to sleep.
I workout every day of the week, and have started to notice that my watch is smelly. I have taken bands off and soaked over night in soapy water and disinfectant to help. But it seems that it is the "watch" that is smelling.
Has anyone had this problem, and if so did you find a remedy. I have washed off, just afraid of spraying with any chemicals due to possible damage.
I have tried wiping off before and after each session with alcohol wipes, but doesnt seem to help much.
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OK, so i wear my watch from wake up to sleep.
I workout every day of the week, and have started to notice that my watch is smelly. I have taken bands off and soaked over night in soapy water and disinfectant to help. But it seems that it is the "watch" that is smelling.
Has anyone had this problem, and if so did you find a remedy. I have washed off, just afraid of spraying with any chemicals due to possible damage.
I have tried wiping off before and after each session with alcohol wipes, but doesnt seem to help much.
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I never washed it. I got it 2 weeks ago and I'm afraid it will die. Got it from a Samsung Store for 150 bucks and was a bargain. I just want to ask, is the watch water resistant without the bands? because my bezel around the watch is a tiny bit loose. Is it normal if it's loose? Is it actually water resistant without bands?
Thanks, Fritz_Frigursson
OP, do you use the original leather straps? If yes, its totally normal.
Leather naturally smells like something stinky, and it gets worse since it absorbs sweats and holds it inside.
My advice : replace it with rubber straps, or metal.
Fritz_Frigursson said:
I never washed it. I got it 2 weeks ago and I'm afraid it will die. Got it from a Samsung Store for 150 bucks and was a bargain. I just want to ask, is the watch water resistant without the bands? because my bezel around the watch is a tiny bit loose. Is it normal if it's loose? Is it actually water resistant without bands?
Thanks, Fritz_Frigursson
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The Samsung Gear S2 /Gear S2 Classic devices have all been certified to an IP68 Rating which means that these devices are protected against water ingress to a maximum depth of 1.5 metres of water for up to 30 minutes, as well as protected against dust ingress.
So you could take a shower, i do wash mine i just make sure that i am careful, when doing so.
cacingbesar said:
OP, do you use the original leather straps? If yes, its totally normal.
Leather naturally smells like something stinky, and it gets worse since it absorbs sweats and holds it inside.
My advice : replace it with rubber straps, or metal.
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I have some straps that i bought off Amazon, the OG straps that come with it ripped after a couple weeks, the screw holes come out, weird. And when i tried a warranty claim, was told only the actual device was covered not accessories. So I bought some. I might buy more, and just change them when i work out. or just take it off.
I have worn it many times in the shower. Even had soap on it. Nothing happened. I am using the gear s2 from October of last year and still loving it. Though had issues with the original strap glue coming off and the terrible customer support to get it replaced.
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I wear mine all the time, apart from in the bath. Shower and hand washing no problem, give it an occasional rinse under the tap.
Before I got my S2, I went through a watch per year in the workplace. On a day to day basis, mine is subjected to dust, dirt, water, cement, plaster, silicon sealant, grease, never misses a beat and original strap.
So I have a hairline crack in the bottom right of my S7 Edge, and was wondering if it's still water resistant. So I went and took a nice hour long, hot and steamy shower. After the phone was dunked in water, exposed to steam, and getting poured on, I don't see one sign of damage so far, everything works fine and I don't notice anything near the crack. DO NOT TRY THIS YOURSELF, IM JUST SHARING MY RESULTS.
I really don't think many would be daft enough to try this ?
drummerman said:
I really don't think many would be daft enough to try this ?
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Yea, I got an LG G6, so I thought "nothing to loose, right?" ?
I have back glass cracked like spider web and I have snapped a lot of photos under water and my s7 edge is working fine, I wasn't worried for water going inside my phone because under cracked glass is a thin plastic layer that keeps device isolated from water. I'm not saying that you are 100% safe to put you phone under water with cracked glass, I'm just sharing my experience
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I have back glass cracked like spider web and I have snapped a lot of photos under water and my s7 edge is working fine, I wasn't worried for water going inside my phone because under cracked glass is a thin plastic layer that keeps device isolated from water. I'm not saying that you are 100% safe to put you phone under water with cracked glass, I'm just sharing my experience
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Well this would answer my question that I have been looking for since I got a hairline crack on my s7 edge. I haven't dunked it in water and still not going to but at least ill know it will be safe from a drink spill or a splash.
Tell your tale!!
I personally wouldn't dare to do it. Knowing my luck, I'll probably have a faulty device lolol
Took the s8+ to the pool several times over the week. Was fine. Just need to wait for charging port to dry; but the s8 gives warning sign if you plug your phone with a wet port. No worries at all.
Washed mine under the tap , delicate flow, after eating greasy food.
Haven't dared since the day my Sony Xperia Z3 went in the bath with its IP68 rating and I was greeted with bubbles as the phone filled up!
I got a replacement but still, twitchy bum time
Had a bucket of water poured on mine by a young family member. It was in an otterbox defender and didn't have any issues at all.
I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
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It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
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Since you're in Australia... Take the case to the place of purchase and ask for a full refund. According to Consumer Affairs, if a product does not work as advertised you're entitled for a replacement or a refund.
Lifeproof cases are very expensive (over $AU100). You expect them to be perfect at that price!
Well I had my first experience
Spilt warm coffee on my phone.
Ran to the hotel sink and washed off the phone.
Blow dried it to get rid of the moisture in the speaker grill and charging port. Good as new!!
Cheap waterproof case...
Last week I decided to take an image under water (fresh). Put her in at least three different times. Got a notification saying there was water detected in the charging port and to make sure it is dry before using. Today, my s8 is still working like new. Here's the image I got (unedited)!
Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
Just be careful you don't make the water too warm, and absolutely don't use soap. This sort of waterproofing takes advantage of surface tension, and either of those two things can defeat it and let water seep in.
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Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
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I only have one thing to say. You're either braver or crazier than i am. I haven't yet figured out which one it is though.
Just when I turn it on ? But seriously, I feel like I can help you out here. Since I'm an auto detailer for a living I can tell you that water does not clean oil at all. And it's highly unadvisable to get your pixel that wet on purpose. I recommend a high quality microfiber towel and a spritz or two of rinceless wash on the towel. I use Carpro EcH2O but any rinceless wash will do. Nice thing about Carpro EcH2O is that there is ceramic coating properties within it so you're adding a bit of ceramic protection to the screen and enclosure of the phone. This not only adds a protective barrier but also keeps it cleaner and easier to clean in the even it does get dirty. That product must be diluted and will last you a lifetime and you can use it on your car as well. But in a pinch I would use Isopropanol Alcohol on a microfiber and that will do just as good of a job cleaning it up without getting the phone wet. Hope this helps you.
I saw a YouTube video of a guy who took his pixel 2 into the pool and even though it survived, the speaker output was drastically reduced, even after it dried. I wouldn't intentionally submerge any device. The water proofing is for emergency only.
I wash my Pixel 2 phone occasionally. I had an S7 Edge that I washed all the time and used for underwater photography. I've only submerged my Pixel 2 for photos once or twice, and so far so good.
One warning though, your USB cable isn't waterproof. I toasted a couple USB cords with a wet USB port before I realized what was going on. Consider covering up the USB port when you're getting your phone wet, and make sure it's dry before you charge it.
Almost every time both phones got submerged, the speaker was weird for a few hours. Once it dried out it was fine.
But you know, YMMV.
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Oh also, remember that fast moving water can push it's way into the waterproofing a lot faster than water pressure alone. I always try to avoid water coming straight out of the faucet into a hole or seam.