I've always been curious, when you "shuffle" your songs, does it truly pick songs at random, or is there some special "algorithm" the app uses to play certain songs? The reason I ask is, it seems like every time I shuffle my songs (which is how I normally listen to music), I always end up hearing the same general pool of songs. I have, like, at least 300 or so songs downloaded to my device for offline playback, but it seems like every time I shuffle, it's mostly the same songs I heard before.
My assumption is that it takes into account how many times tracks have been played, and the more times they've been played, the more likely they are to show up in shuffle. Thus, when I shuffle my songs, it would use generally the same ones, because those are the "most played" due to all the time they come up in the shuffle.
I just wonder, though, is there any way to change this algorithm, or at the very least, reset all the amount of plays my songs have? I thought I remember one time finding a way to reset the number of plays via the Internet browser client of Play Music, but it doesn't seem like that applied to the number of plays on my actual phone, as it didn't affect which songs were coming up in my shuffle.
I've got like same feeling about it. Shuffle all music seems to pick up songs which have higher listen countet than others, so I end up listening same good 'ol songs - mostly
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Ok i have tried a couple of different music players (^3, winamp, etc) and im trying to find a music player that actually continually plays. Confused? Well for instance when the end of a song features the beginning of the next song they mix, however on android it pauses and goes to the next song having am awkward pause. The ipod series mixes the songs really well just wonderong for any insight
So basically to have both song mix seamlessly instead of be two different songs
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I know what you mean. I haven't looked into it. Winamp, back in c.1995 was the first (I think) to put out this feature via plug-in that lets the next song fade in as the current song fades out. See if Winamp has a plug-in (or preference in the setting) on the Android app for that.
Yeah ive checked and no such option. Haha
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Check out the PowerAmp beta. I dunno if it has that fade in/out feature or not but it's supposedly a pretty kickass player.
Lithium player has that, called a cross fader. It's even adjustable.
I don't think there is a lot of discussion about this, so I thought i would start one. Good evening, my name is Gregg and I am a recovering Ioser. It started out with just an ipod...you know it was convenient, it was shiny. It worked well. Buying music was a simple process. You clicked and could listen immediatly. At first it was just occasionally, but I got into the podcast scene and itseemed to fit me perfectly. Podcasts would let me listen to things while I was doing chores around the house. Eventually though podcasts on my ipod weren't enough for me. I also had to carry around a phone on the side, so I decided that maybe it would be OK to try a little iphone. The first click was awesome...phone and tunes...podcasts done well. I was hooked.
For two years I was doing a lot of Ios, but eventually the shiny IOS had me hooked. There were bills for apps that did nothing but make funny noises, their was music that I paid for but never listened to. I was hooked. I probably hit rock-bottom last year. My iosing was out of control and I thought I would go cold turkey. So I got my G2x.
Sorry for the goofy intro, but I though this would set me up a bit. Here's what I have itunes on the windows side. So getting music and podcasts from itunes to the g2X involves multiple layers.
1. Moving music to the machine.
2. Moving and managing podcasts
3. Playing and managing music (which includes playing, rating music and searchng through my music)
So I will start with the first question. From what I understand there are really two ways that I know of to move music and podcasts from itunes to your phone. One is doubletwist, the other is isyncr. There might be others, but these are the two that I worked with. of the two I went with iSyncr and here's why. Doubletwist has a lot going for it. Really a nice interface, and a nice music player on the android side. Its trying very hard to give me, an ex-ioser a bit of what I am missing. The sync app looks like itunes and allows me to sync my playlists. The app looks a lot like itunes. It plays music fine. The player struggled with my phone, though. Somehow it didn't cooperate with the cm7 ROM I am using. It wouldn't play well on the lock screen and seemed buggy. The syncing was buggy too. Genius podcasts wouldn't refresh when they changed on my itunes. There were workaround(relaunch itunes and doubletwist).
Isyncr is a 2.99 purchase. Its simple. You install the app on the android(you pretty much install and forget it) and it syncs when you launch the windows EXE on the memory card when the phone is docked to the computer. It works well. It syncs podcasts, and ratings. To me, that was important because I have this theory that I will rate my music into organization in itunes.Its flawless. I haven't tried the wifi setup, but I might in the future. It doesn't play your music, so its just a solution for syncing.
As for podcasts, I tried very hardto find a solution on the android side that will satisfy my needs right on the android. I bought the full version of pocketcasts. There are a lot of good things going for it, but there are bugs. One that was kind of a deal breaker was that if you try to advance the podcast in the player while its playing you lock up the app. Restart is the only solution. So, it was a good, pretty solution, but it had to go. I tried a couple other apps, but I wasn't sold.
So, ultimately, isyncr is my solution for podcasts too. It woks well, but it will require a daily sync. The advantage ultimatley of syncing from the desktop is also that I am able to make Mp3 CDs of podcasts as well as sync my podcasts from the same source. Simple, efficient and workable.
Which brings me to playing. I love google music(I have two more invites if anyone wants one), and it allows me to access my music when I am around wifi seamlessly. It allows me to make instant mixes based on a song. That's a killer feature. Combined with wireless access to all my music via the cloud its excellent. Advancing and moving within tracks and podcasts works well. Its not a full-feature app, but it works.
Almost there, there is one last aspect. I would like to rate music from my library while its playing. Isyncr has a nice widget that allows you to rate and see your playing apps and see the album art. Its part of the package. The ratings and playcounts go right back to itunes.
My preferences represent my unique quirks in terms of music and listening: I am a podcaster and a music listener and I prefer to rate my music. Because of this I am happy with: Isyncr and google music.
Long set-up, but ultimately I am asking you what your music listening setup is. Thoughts?
I use the standard music app since it has DTS for the g2x. Google music as well for some streaming music. Google Listen app for podcasts. I also like BeyondPod.
I drag and drop music. It's not fancy but I don't mind.
Power Amp with some EQ modifications and Voodoo Sound is how I enjoy my music. I used to use Doubletwist for syncing my music to my phone, but each update made more and more bloated, along with random freezes, so I just uninstalled it. Sony's Media Go software good is good for adding music, but I prefer to drag and drop into organized folders.
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If you're using a stock ROM, I'd recommend sticking to the stock player because of it's DTS feature. It greatly improves sound quality if you have it selected.
I've read everywhere about how cool the new Google music update is but I have what I think is a major problem.
I press shuffle and nothing happens. The songs play in regular order of the queue and don't even reshuffle.
Is it just me? Is there some new secret way to do it?
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When you hit the shuffle button, it seems to get all the songs in the current playlist/album/artist/etc and shuffle them up in the queue (finally they implemented a queue system, i was waiting for this). If you untick shuffle after it has created the shuffled queue, it will play in order of the shuffled queue as it would've done anyway - enabling it again will reshuffle all the items in the queue. You can clear it so it plays normally by clearing the queue and playing a song you want to start listening to, and it'll act the same as it did before, but it'll all be in the queue rather than just the next song. They probably should have unshuffled the songs once you untick it though, it does seem a little confusing.
i dont understand
did you mean the shuffle button on the bottom left corner?
my google play music just shuffle it correctly
or maybe you cant try shuffling it after you choose song in "song"tab not artist or album..i always do that when i want to listen all of my music:laugh:
I have another problem. It doesn't play my music. It says "Music playback error". Everything is stock.
semprom said:
I have another problem. It doesn't play my music. It says "Music playback error". Everything is stock.
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time to download another music player? i recommend winamp
Maybe he/she streams their music? Have you tried clearing data or maybe reinstalling the app?
Yeah, only reason I stick to GMusic is the cloud...UI is pretty slick too.
About the shuffle button, seems waaaaay too complicated. Why can it just shuffle my current queue? Now whenever I go to app, I have to turn off shuffle, clear my queue, start a new queue/playlist and then press shuffle again for it to work. If I happen to play another album for instance, shuffle button in new queue pretty much dies till I clear it.
It's horrid.
Mine is giving me the playback error as well, but only when I'm on data and not wifi. Which is weird because I have it set to only stream via wifi. And it only does this when using another music application(ie Pandora, TuneIn)
Since Google doesn't seem to have any support forum anymore that would be related to Google Play music, I'm forced to post this message elsewhere. I did already contact Google support about the issue, however they've not answered me yet.
The problem that I have with Google Play Music is that playlists seem to have rather low maximum limits for number of songs. Currently I've mostly been listening to music by simply giving good tracks a thumbs up. After this I can simply shuffle the thumbs up playlist and It'll only play songs that I like and not only one genre like the radio stations. Recently, however I realized that the number of songs on the 'Thumbs up' playlist doesn't keep increasing but instead stays at approx 1150 songs or 95 ½ hours. For whatever reason my phone and other mobile devices show 1200 songs for the 'Thumbs up' playlist.
I tried to go around this problem by creating a new playlist and adding everything in thumbs up to it but apparently other lists only support 1000 tracks. :silly:
What this means is that the whole thumbs up system is almost entirely useless for me from now on; adding more songs will simply drop some earlier added ones from the playlist (I did verify by copy-pasting the whole playlist to Notepad++ that there are actually only 1146 songs in the list). It's also pretty much impossible for me to now keep up with which songs have been dropped from thumbs up and should actually be there.
Has anyone else ran into this issue? I couldn't really find anything similar to my issue by googling around. Surely I can't be the only one who has over 1200 tracks on their thumbs up list?
Edit:
After some further investigating I found out that on my every mobile device the amount of tracks on 'Thumbs up' is different. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Same Problem
I use a playlist to select the songs I want to sync to my Android phone. It has over 2000 songs in it but the limit is 1000. Please remove this limit Google!
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Since Google doesn't seem to have any support forum anymore that would be related to Google Play music, I'm forced to post this message elsewhere. I did already contact Google support about the issue, however they've not answered me yet.
The problem that I have with Google Play Music is that playlists seem to have rather low maximum limits for number of songs. Currently I've mostly been listening to music by simply giving good tracks a thumbs up. After this I can simply shuffle the thumbs up playlist and It'll only play songs that I like and not only one genre like the radio stations. Recently, however I realized that the number of songs on the 'Thumbs up' playlist doesn't keep increasing but instead stays at approx 1150 songs or 95 ½ hours. For whatever reason my phone and other mobile devices show 1200 songs for the 'Thumbs up' playlist.
I tried to go around this problem by creating a new playlist and adding everything in thumbs up to it but apparently other lists only support 1000 tracks. :silly:
What this means is that the whole thumbs up system is almost entirely useless for me from now on; adding more songs will simply drop some earlier added ones from the playlist (I did verify by copy-pasting the whole playlist to Notepad++ that there are actually only 1146 songs in the list). It's also pretty much impossible for me to now keep up with which songs have been dropped from thumbs up and should actually be there.
Has anyone else ran into this issue? I couldn't really find anything similar to my issue by googling around. Surely I can't be the only one who has over 1200 tracks on their thumbs up list?
Edit:
After some further investigating I found out that on my every mobile device the amount of tracks on 'Thumbs up' is different. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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Google Music Thumbs Up Keep Disappearing from Auto Playlist
Rd. Vortex said:
Since Google doesn't seem to have any support forum anymore that would be related to Google Play music, I'm forced to post this message elsewhere. I did already contact Google support about the issue, however they've not answered me yet.
The problem that I have with Google Play Music is that playlists seem to have rather low maximum limits for number of songs. Currently I've mostly been listening to music by simply giving good tracks a thumbs up. After this I can simply shuffle the thumbs up playlist and It'll only play songs that I like and not only one genre like the radio stations. Recently, however I realized that the number of songs on the 'Thumbs up' playlist doesn't keep increasing but instead stays at approx 1150 songs or 95 ½ hours. For whatever reason my phone and other mobile devices show 1200 songs for the 'Thumbs up' playlist.
I tried to go around this problem by creating a new playlist and adding everything in thumbs up to it but apparently other lists only support 1000 tracks. :silly:
What this means is that the whole thumbs up system is almost entirely useless for me from now on; adding more songs will simply drop some earlier added ones from the playlist (I did verify by copy-pasting the whole playlist to Notepad++ that there are actually only 1146 songs in the list). It's also pretty much impossible for me to now keep up with which songs have been dropped from thumbs up and should actually be there.
Has anyone else ran into this issue? I couldn't really find anything similar to my issue by googling around. Surely I can't be the only one who has over 1200 tracks on their thumbs up list?
Edit:
After some further investigating I found out that on my every mobile device the amount of tracks on 'Thumbs up' is different. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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I have the same exact issue, but I am not sure how we are going to be able to do anything about it until Google just figures it out. I doubt they are trolling this forum. I called Google and they said there is a limit and that it was recording the thumbs up/down, but it only allows for a certain amount of songs in the auto playlist. Something about something on the back end preventing longer playlists. This is complete bull**** as Spotify and other music services do not have these limitations. Whats the most annoying is that I love Google music and want to keep using it, but if it's just going to keep blasting away my thumbs up playlist periodically as I add new tracks over the next 10 years then whats the point? I should have like 10,000 thumbs up tracks in there, not 1,000!!! Complete FAIL!
Google Music Thumbs Up Missing Workaround
doomsdalicious said:
I have the same exact issue, but I am not sure how we are going to be able to do anything about it until Google just figures it out. I doubt they are trolling this forum. I called Google and they said there is a limit and that it was recording the thumbs up/down, but it only allows for a certain amount of songs in the auto playlist. Something about something on the back end preventing longer playlists. This is complete bull**** as Spotify and other music services do not have these limitations. Whats the most annoying is that I love Google music and want to keep using it, but if it's just going to keep blasting away my thumbs up playlist periodically as I add new tracks over the next 10 years then whats the point? I should have like 10,000 thumbs up tracks in there, not 1,000!!! Complete FAIL!
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Hey friend hopefully you're still monitoring this thread. I found a way around this bug and hopefully it works for you also. When I was on the phone with Google they told me that my thumbs were all being saved, but just not all showing on this thumbs up playlist. What I did was select all the tracks in the thumbs up playlist, and then select "add to library". Once I did this all of my thumbs up tracks appeared in the thumbs up playlist and everything seems to be working now. I guess there is some sort of bug in which if you add your thumbs to your library they will all show. I will do this periodically as I thumb up more songs, but at least this worked for me. Let me know if it works for you and hopefully others can find this thread!! I may or may not call Google back to report this finding. I do have an open ticket with them and they said they would call me back.
Download a third-party music app!
Third party music apps are a good way to go about music issues.
I like Apollo and Rocket Player. There are plenty of others, though. usually third party apps don't have a playlist limit.
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Hello all.
I carry a good amount of music in my phone (LG G4): Around 20 gigabytes inside the /Music folder in the MicroSD card. The music is in folders that may be for a single artist or collections of a type of music with various artists.
I like to listen to the music in random order. I have tried Google Music, the LG music player, Musicolet and Pulsar. They find all the songs and folders, but in all of them the "shuffle all" option misbehaves in the same way: It will shuffle songs between a limited number of folders (perhaps 3). It will not repeat songs (or seldom do it), but it becomes monotonous.
For example: I may get a song from The Beatles, another from CCR, another from Metallica and then a different one from The Beatles, a different one from CCR and so on. seldom picking songs from other artists until these are over.
It becomes very noticeable in long trips. I may re-open the songs tab and press the shuffle button again, but then it will loop over a different small set of folders.
Have you noticed that as well? To these apps share the same code or libraries, perhaps?
Thanks.