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Music Player -Not enough space in Music Database

Hello everyone,
Looking for a solution to an issue with the Music Player I have stumbled across within the first couple days of using the Captivate.
I have an external 16GB sd card filled with mp3s that has ~2GB free. When opening Music Player I find all of my files are there, but if I try switching to "Artists" view the application will close and I will get the message "Not Enough Space in Music Database". My internal sd card does not have any media on it so this card is nearly 100% empty.
It's pretty annoying not having the ability to sort by artists as you could imagine.
Sorry if this has been covered already, but I couldn't find anything in the Captivate forum about it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

I had the same problem. I'm now using the cubed music player without any problems, and I really like it. Check it out here.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/03/23/android-quick-app-3-or-cubed-music-player/

Thanks for the suggestion. I've got it running now and I am happy with this.

Same Problem / Posted to T-Mobile Forums
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.

tjtaylor said:
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.
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I was looking around in dbdata/databases/media and there are some artist databases and such in there that I thought might have something to do with this, but I don't really know what they do or anything.
Maybe someone who knows more than I do could look at them and see if they notice anything strange that may be causing the problem.

Works with 30 Artists
After deleting most of the music library from the phone [reduced to 30 artists from 181] I was able to use the Vibrant Music Player to organize by Artist.

I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.

SmoovC said:
I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.
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I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.

dontshakepandas said:
I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.
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I did try "3", and it is fun to play with. I like the functionality of MixZing better for when I'm driving and trying to flip through tunes.
Yes, you are right: the lock screen widget is great; thanks for mentioning it as I forgot that feature.

Wow, this problem is devastating. I still haven't transfered and organized all my music but I don't want to use another app. The default one is perfect, I can pause/skip from lockscreen and swipe down the status bar while working with the phone.
But most importantly: The virtual surround sound! I can't let that go and use another application!

I'm also having this issue..my internal card has around 11 gigs of music. I synced using media monkey and set it to embed album art into the tags, could that have something to do with it?

I too am rooted, have 10 gigs of music and album art on my external 16 gig sd card and have no issues sorting by any means via the default music player.
I've installed titanium backup, busybox, rom manager, launcher pro and a few have fun apps. Uninstalled all the AT&T junk. If that helps.

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I have about 17GB of music on an SD card, and I ran into this issue. The card was recently formatted, and my Android installation is pretty clean.
I realize 17GB of music is a lot, and I know I could pare it down to work around this problem, but nonetheless I'm very disappointed that Samsung didn't put together a better database system.
Mixzing and Cubed can handle it. The stock music app is really great otherwise, but this issue basically ruins it for me. C'mon, Samsung.

I found this post by DLarva in the Vibrant Forum... perhaps this is the key:
DLarva said:
OK, well I thought was the number of artists, but now I'm not so sure.
Maybe it has something to do with how the app handles various artists and/or unknown artists.
I added all my music, then deleted tracks from various artist albums until it worked again. I then put back the various artist album track and it didn't work, as expected.
I thought this was artist based, but when I got it working again--by deleting the track mentioned above--and then added a track for a various artist album by an artist that already existed, the app crashed too.
I then thought it might be song based. So I removed that song and then added a set of songs. However, it unexpectantly worked.
The difference with the set of songs added above is that they weren't part of a various artist album. They were a new artist, but the main album artist wasn't Various with a Contributing artist of the actual artist name. Instead, the Album Artist was the artist name and the contributing artist was left blank (or had the same name).
So, it is that the music app doesn't understand how to handle various artist albums?
Could someone else with this problem remove all the various artist albums from their collection and see if their app works again?
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Even the stock android music player can handle it. I don't think its a database issue but instead a bug in the music player itself.
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I just hit the same roadblock.
No one have any definitive answers yet? Besides "Buy an iPod" ?
Anyone know just how many artists it can take before it crashes?

There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.

ScottyNuttz said:
There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.
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I have about 16gb of music split between my internal and external SD cards. None of my mp3s are tagged with "Various Artists" in the artist field, yet I still experience the "Not enough space..." error when attempting to sort by Artist. However, all other sort filters work fine.
Does anyone know if the leaked JI6 ROM still has this issue?

Workaround <G> Well, I deleted the soundtrack and collection albums from the microSD card, that works too.
I'd rather not lose the artist names from the MP3 tags but I guess putting "Samsung ****S" in there instead would also serve the purpose.
There must be a terribly small limit (128? 256?) on the number of records/fields in that database, because I really didn't have THAT many artist names. Maybe two dozen primaries, then only 6 discs of "collections", like the 4-disc Woodstock set. Odds are there are 128 artists in all--and that's enough to crash a database?!
ROFL, with tears in my eyes. Was this stuff written by programmers, or Pinky And The Brain? As if it would be SO HARD to release an update? And compete with an iPod?
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I think I've just discovered another and greater reason to dump the Samsung/AT&T Music Player: It inserts breaks! Like the Windows Media Player, it is incapable of playing two consecutive tracks without inserting a pause.
If you have ever listened to Simon & Garfunkel, or Pink Floyd, or The Moody Blues, or Jefferson Airplane/Starship....there are many albums that segue from one track into the next WITHOUT ANY BREAK. Now this nasty little cheapware comes along, and to me it sounds just like a skip in an LP, there's a half second of dead silence interrupting the playback. That's just plain nasty, considering all the software has to do is pre-fetch, buffer the next track and keep playing.
Looks like I'm going shopping...and then doing a little root & spring cleaning with the trash, unless Samsung fix this all in the Froyo release.
"Dear Samsung and AT&T: Grow up! There's no excuse for this kind of software getting onto the market in this day and age. You can and MUST do better."

New Google Music Issue

I've read everywhere about how cool the new Google music update is but I have what I think is a major problem.
I press shuffle and nothing happens. The songs play in regular order of the queue and don't even reshuffle.
Is it just me? Is there some new secret way to do it?
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When you hit the shuffle button, it seems to get all the songs in the current playlist/album/artist/etc and shuffle them up in the queue (finally they implemented a queue system, i was waiting for this). If you untick shuffle after it has created the shuffled queue, it will play in order of the shuffled queue as it would've done anyway - enabling it again will reshuffle all the items in the queue. You can clear it so it plays normally by clearing the queue and playing a song you want to start listening to, and it'll act the same as it did before, but it'll all be in the queue rather than just the next song. They probably should have unshuffled the songs once you untick it though, it does seem a little confusing.

i dont understand
did you mean the shuffle button on the bottom left corner?
my google play music just shuffle it correctly
or maybe you cant try shuffling it after you choose song in "song"tab not artist or album..i always do that when i want to listen all of my music:laugh:

I have another problem. It doesn't play my music. It says "Music playback error". Everything is stock.

semprom said:
I have another problem. It doesn't play my music. It says "Music playback error". Everything is stock.
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time to download another music player? i recommend winamp

Maybe he/she streams their music? Have you tried clearing data or maybe reinstalling the app?

Yeah, only reason I stick to GMusic is the cloud...UI is pretty slick too.
About the shuffle button, seems waaaaay too complicated. Why can it just shuffle my current queue? Now whenever I go to app, I have to turn off shuffle, clear my queue, start a new queue/playlist and then press shuffle again for it to work. If I happen to play another album for instance, shuffle button in new queue pretty much dies till I clear it.
It's horrid.

Mine is giving me the playback error as well, but only when I'm on data and not wifi. Which is weird because I have it set to only stream via wifi. And it only does this when using another music application(ie Pandora, TuneIn)

Google Play Shuffle

I posted this in the standard Android Apps forum, but not really getting any good replies, thought I would try our Note forum.
Here was my post...
So i have stuck it out with google music. I have close to 7000 songs uploaded.
The one thing that kills me is shuffle on a playlist. It seems i keep getting the same songs playing and it never really shuffles through them all. After many google searches i see others having the same issue. Nothing recent though. Anyone else have this issue or know of google is aware?
Is it the player or the service? I dont know of any other cloud service like this except for the upcoming xbox music.
This shuffle thing is really annoying.
Two users in my original thread recommended two other players, but I don't think there is an app out there that streams my google music library. I am waiting for PowerAmp to provide that feature soon

Music app that sorts: Genre>Artist>Album?

Anyone know of any music apps that go to a list of artists after selecting genre? Its the way Apple does genre browsing and I think they have a patent on it because no other music player does it, they send you to all the songs in a genre which is a joke (select "rock" and get a list of 1200 songs, thanks for narrowing it down).
The ONLY app Ive seen that does this is Player Pro, and they do it in a weird way (which lets them get by the patent, assuming there is one).
I simply cannot use a music app that doesnt allow you to browse by genre and then goes to artists, its by far the easiest way to find what youre looking for since it narrows results down so much. I only use the music part of my phone when driving so finding things quickly without looking through big lists is essential, searching by artist is too difficult because I have too many artists and the list is too long to scroll through, if it wasnt for Player Pro I'd still be using my ipod touch for music. Player Pro is a good app but Id still like to know of alternatives.
I remember there being a Zune clone floating around that wasnt allowed on the google store because it was an exact copy, is there anything like that for the iPod (I know about bTunes, its not what Im looking for)?

place yHonMa
Try N7 or Power Amp

idividebyzero said:
Anyone know of any music apps that go to a list of artists after selecting genre? Its the way Apple does genre browsing and I think they have a patent on it because no other music player does it, they send you to all the songs in a genre which is a joke (select "rock" and get a list of 1200 songs, thanks for narrowing it down).
The ONLY app Ive seen that does this is Player Pro, and they do it in a weird way (which lets them get by the patent, assuming there is one).
I simply cannot use a music app that doesnt allow you to browse by genre and then goes to artists, its by far the easiest way to find what youre looking for since it narrows results down so much. I only use the music part of my phone when driving so finding things quickly without looking through big lists is essential, searching by artist is too difficult because I have too many artists and the list is too long to scroll through, if it wasnt for Player Pro I'd still be using my ipod touch for music. Player Pro is a good app but Id still like to know of alternatives.
I remember there being a Zune clone floating around that wasnt allowed on the google store because it was an exact copy, is there anything like that for the iPod (I know about bTunes, its not what Im looking for)?
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The MixZing media player seems to do what you're asking for, when you click on the genre section it shows you the artists, and on clicking the artits you get the albums.

Google Play Music shuffle algorithms?

I've always been curious, when you "shuffle" your songs, does it truly pick songs at random, or is there some special "algorithm" the app uses to play certain songs? The reason I ask is, it seems like every time I shuffle my songs (which is how I normally listen to music), I always end up hearing the same general pool of songs. I have, like, at least 300 or so songs downloaded to my device for offline playback, but it seems like every time I shuffle, it's mostly the same songs I heard before.
My assumption is that it takes into account how many times tracks have been played, and the more times they've been played, the more likely they are to show up in shuffle. Thus, when I shuffle my songs, it would use generally the same ones, because those are the "most played" due to all the time they come up in the shuffle.
I just wonder, though, is there any way to change this algorithm, or at the very least, reset all the amount of plays my songs have? I thought I remember one time finding a way to reset the number of plays via the Internet browser client of Play Music, but it doesn't seem like that applied to the number of plays on my actual phone, as it didn't affect which songs were coming up in my shuffle.

I've got like same feeling about it. Shuffle all music seems to pick up songs which have higher listen countet than others, so I end up listening same good 'ol songs - mostly