Streaming... - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys
After much thought, I will be grabbing the WiFi model of the shield tablet
I was going to grab the galaxy tabpro/s line but gamestream is something that won me over. I can play my games on my bed when I feel like it
Now as for streaming.. I tried steam in home streaming since I don't have a nvidia gpu right now, which I will be getting in a few months..
Steam was a bit laggy, it said slow network a couple of times since I have a pretty bad wifi setup
Right now my wifi setup is my landlords wifi since it's included in my rent as utilities.
I have a router as a repeater to repeat the free wifi upstairs and then ethernet from the router to my computer
It's a pretty bad setup.. does anyone have any suggestions to improve this?
The only thing would be to get my own internet and then ask my landlord to lower my rent
Thanks

I dont know much about repeaters, but as understand from your post it just transform the wifi to cable? If that is the case you only need to attach that cable to a router with 5ghz wifi since the streaming only will use the local netwok
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xxsashixx said:
Hey guys
After much thought, I will be grabbing the WiFi model of the shield tablet
I was going to grab the galaxy tabpro/s line but gamestream is something that won me over. I can play my games on my bed when I feel like it
Now as for streaming.. I tried steam in home streaming since I don't have a nvidia gpu right now, which I will be getting in a few months..
Steam was a bit laggy, it said slow network a couple of times since I have a pretty bad wifi setup
Right now my wifi setup is my landlords wifi since it's included in my rent as utilities.
I have a router as a repeater to repeat the free wifi upstairs and then ethernet from the router to my computer
It's a pretty bad setup.. does anyone have any suggestions to improve this?
The only thing would be to get my own internet and then ask my landlord to lower my rent
Thanks
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If you buying this tablet just for the streaming, understand it isn't an exclusive feature. You can use the Limelight app on most devices. But the Shield is definitely far superior to the other last-gen tablets you listed. Tegra K1 is an amazing performer.
Do you have a good router? It could be worth upgrading your router. You could get a 4G LTE portable hotspot with unlimited data and use that perhaps (or tether your own connection if you have an unlimited data plan). You can perhaps use an ethernet cable with the Shield Tablet for better signal. Drop down to the lowest settings if you have to (720P @30FPS).

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The landlords router upstairs is only 2.4GHZ so yea..
Repeaters just repeat the signal so it's better signal but will always half the bandwidth so I'm not sure how to get a better setup..
I can't change any of the APs router settings as I have no access to it

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Wifi SLower than should be..

I have a linksys wifi N router at home and my laptop connects at around 144mbps, however my phone only connects at around 72mbps..
Also my laptop always sits on my coffee table which is about 15' from my router (through one wall) and has excellent signal. But my phone usually only has good signal in the same spot. It only usually lights up like two of the wifi indicators.
Does everyone else have this issue? Are the wifi chips just not strong in the phone or what?
My laptop is currently saying that it is recieving at 54mbps, my mesmerize is showing the same speed. Although my laptop is stating that I have excellent strength, and my phone is showing fair strength. I think the wifi is only so-so in this phone, I rooted last night and just got wifi tethering going. With the phone broadcasting a hostspot next to the laptop it only gave a fair signal strength. I'm not sure if the strength of a wifi hotspot has anything to do with the recieving end of the signal though.
elijahblake said:
I have a linksys wifi N router at home and my laptop connects at around 150mbps, however my phone only connects at around 75mbps..
Also my laptop always sits on my coffee table which is about 15' from my router (through one wall) and has excellent signal. But my phone usually only has good signal in the same spot. It only usually lights up like two of the wifi indicators.
Does everyone else have this issue? Are the wifi chips just not strong in the phone or what?
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I've had this issue with both my droid and my blackberry (when I used my blackberry). I think that the wifi capabilities in phones are not as good as they are in computers.
but the reason I'm asking this is this phone is supposed to have wifi N radio in it.. Older phones only had G antennas which are only capable of 54mbps.. wifi N is theoretically capable of up to 300mbps, I've never seen anything actually connect at that speed, but it would seem that my phone which is brand new should atleast connect at the same speed as a 2 year old wifi N laptop???
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My laptop is currently saying that it is recieving at 54mbps, my mesmerize is showing the same speed. Although my laptop is stating that I have excellent strength, and my phone is showing fair strength. I think the wifi is only so-so in this phone, I rooted last night and just got wifi tethering going. With the phone broadcasting a hostspot next to the laptop it only gave a fair signal strength. I'm not sure if the strength of a wifi hotspot has anything to do with the recieving end of the signal though.
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If your router is only G that's the max speed you will get?
Wifi is a pain in general to troubleshoot, as there could be many, many reasons why it is slow or not working at all.
General questions to be asked are:
Do you have security enabled wifi?
What kind of encryption are you using?
How many devices are connected to the network? (Wired or wireless)
Is the router set to send a wireless N signal? (most routers have that optioned, but not always running as most devices are not wireless N compatible)
I've had my phone connected at several wifi's (I travel a lot for work and am in hotels all the time) and my connection speed varies. At home I have great connection and speed test to 5megs a second download (wireless N--it connects) currently at a hotel in Colorado, 1480kbps download (wireless G)
I still stick by my thoughts as far as the wifi on the phones will never be as good as the wifi in a computer, be it a laptop or a desktop. Phones just don't have the battery power to hold a super strong/fast wifi signal.
I have wifi speed problems also but my first gen ipod touch does not seem to have issues
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skitzo_inc said:
Wifi is a pain in general to troubleshoot, as there could be many, many reasons why it is slow or not working at all.
General questions to be asked are:
Do you have security enabled wifi?
What kind of encryption are you using?
How many devices are connected to the network? (Wired or wireless)
Is the router set to send a wireless N signal? (most routers have that optioned, but not always running as most devices are not wireless N compatible)
I've had my phone connected at several wifi's (I travel a lot for work and am in hotels all the time) and my connection speed varies. At home I have great connection and speed test to 5megs a second download (wireless N--it connects) currently at a hotel in Colorado, 1480kbps download (wireless G)
I still stick by my thoughts as far as the wifi on the phones will never be as good as the wifi in a computer, be it a laptop or a desktop. Phones just don't have the battery power to hold a super strong/fast wifi signal.
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yes, the router is set to wifi N or actually it's set to all!!! I have security enabled..
There's only two devices running wifi (laptop/cell phone)
I get fast download speeds like 5000kbps down/2500kbps up when using the speedtest.net app..
But when I go to wifi settings and click on my router once it's connected whether I have Good (usually) or excellent it's only connected to my router at 72Mbps.. I have a static IP set for it..
I guess mobile phone wifi chips just aren't up to par with laptop chips
msird said:
I have wifi speed problems also but my first gen ipod touch does not seem to have issues
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My little brothers touch has the same issues with speed.
elijahblake said:
yes, the router is set to wifi N or actually it's set to all!!! I have security enabled..
There's only two devices running wifi (laptop/cell phone)
I get fast download speeds like 5000kbps down/2500kbps up when using the speedtest.net app..
But when I go to wifi settings and click on my router once it's connected but whether I have Good (usually) or excellent it's only connected to my router at 72Mbps.. I have a static IP set for it..
I guess mobile phone wifi chips just aren't up to par with laptop chips
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Those are my sentiments exactly. Even with it not being as fast, it's plenty fast for everything I need it to do, but 3g is fast enough for me generally. I only connect to wireless when I'm not in good cell service.

[Q] Very Slow Wifi (Family Edition)

So I have a Xoom FE, obviously, and when I'm browsing the internet in the stock browser, browsing the market, watching netflix, anything that requires internet in general is incredibly slow. Like almost unusable.
I know my internet is fast enough because both of my computers and other devices (Xbox, Droid, Sony Blu-Ray) fly on my network. We use a good Netgear router that's a full a/b/g/n dual band device running on 2.4 and 5Ghz.
The browser is usually painfully slow no matter what, and any of the apps that have anything to do with video are just pathetic. No videos load quickly, mainly in the YouTube app or when browsing to a video on the web, IGN for an example. Once they load enough they rarely keep playing for very long before stopping to buffer, and that's very noticeable in Netflix especially.
I've done Google searches and tried nearly everything that's been suggested, but most of that stuff is for the original Xoom. Not many seem to have gone for the FE. If anyone has any ideas on what I can try I'm open to ideas, even including the router settings. Like I said my internet speed is fine, I can stream 4k YouTube clips without buffering on my PCs.
Gosh over 100 views and no suggestions! Not even 1? Man...
Does this happen on other wireless networks? Or only on your own?
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I have the family edition and I have great internet speed. I have a pc, laptop, xbox 360, evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and the xoom FE all on the same router and still the xooms internet is fast. So it might be a router problem for you
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That's what I was trying to isolate.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either. In a couple weeks I'll be staying at a house with wifi when I go skiing, I'll definitely be paying attention to the speed there.
Its definitely the worst with video, whether it be flash or the youtube app itself the video just loads incredibly slow. Flash videos are nearly unwatchable if not because of the speed because of the glitching. Something I saw hadn't been fixed in the Xoom 2 when I read Engadget's review.
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I watch videos just fine. YouTube, netflix all that good ish with no problem
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Run Speedtest. If it's slow compared to your laptop, then try changing the wifi router protocol. If it's using WEP, try changing to WPA. I had this issue with my nook color and changing to WPA fixed internet speed issues.
Well I ran a speed test on all the devices I have. My laptop, Droid Charge and my desktop (which is hardwired) all reached just about 5mbps. That isn't bad, my AT&T DSL is supposed to peak at 6. This stupid thing hit under .5mbps, notice that POINT. That's less than half 1mbps. Thinking it might just be the browser I downloaded the app (which doesn't have a honeycomb version apparently), it fared slightly better with about 1.5mbps. Both tests had a ping of about 400ms, while all other devices were less than 20ms.
The router is already set to WPA, so I'm not sure what else to try. I'm thinking about trying the push button connect on the router to see if it helps.
Got netgear?
Just got fed up with mine after 2 years.
Granted it was draft n, and dropped the ssid broadcast daily, but even wired it slowed to a crawl most likely due to spi (stateful packet inspection). Try without it on if you got it.
Or buy a cisco router (they bought linksys). All my phone, tablet and pc related connection issues stopped when I replaced mine.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either...
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Try to find a free WiFi hotspot near you and go there to test it. There has to be some where near you that has free WiFi.
Our local McDonalds in my podunk town of 5000 has free WiFi.
It is worth a try.
did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
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did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
I never did find a solution. The symptoms you listed there are exactly what I'm living with. I haven't the slightest idea what might be causing it. The router appears to make no difference as I use it everywhere I go and the symptoms never go away for me. It's still useable, but slow. The other thing that bugs me is the browser's lovely habit of just force closing whenever it feels like it. Very annoying. I'm holding out hoping the ICS update can bring some fixes for us.
What ROM are you using? (Stock, Rooted? EOS ROM?) What type of router do you have?
Details can help you. 5 Mbps is horrible. If you're sharing that bandwidth with other active nodes, then that's even worse.
I have a Netgear WNDR3700 router. This one here. I'm on the stock rom, un-rooted. There's plenty of devices in my house sharing the network for sure, but only about 3 at a time are actively using the internet. Most of the time less than that. 6Mb DSL is the fastest thing we can get where we live (there's no cable in the middle of nowhere).
As I said before, even with many devices using the internet at the same time, my Android phone and all my other devices EXCEPT my Xoom speed test at near 5Mbps. The tablet is lucky to hit 1.5Mbps. I just don't get it. I haven't noticed the slowdown on any other routers, but honestly I don't use it much for the web outside of the house, just mainly reading and games.
I use a number of testing devices, and the Motorola Xoom Family Edition is by far the quirkiest--there must have been severe quality control issues at Motorola with that tablet.
I ran into the incredibly slow Internet speeds. Oddly enough, restarting the device fixed THAT Family Edition problem... for now.
I really don't know what it is about this tablet, it just seems to run very slow. Even when I tethered it to my 4G LTE phone (I get about 15-20mbps where I am) it was slow to pull up videos and pages (pages loaded quickly once they started). I think it needs some optimization for sure. I have a feeling they swapped in some new hardware and didn't touch the software from the original Xoom and that's where our problems are coming from.
Hopefully they actually try with ICS, though my hopes aren't high that we'll even get it this quarter, or if we do that it will be any better.

Wireless Tethering Safety

Is wireless tethering safe?
I connected my Mac to it, and I also connected my Dad's iPod to it and a friends iPad, just to test it out.
Can things be uploaded/sent to my phone from doing that?
Am curious because am wanting to get an iPad 3 (sorry!) and my thinking is that I can get the wifi only version and use the 3G on my phone.
In fact, I had to connect my Mac to it for an hour or so since we lost power in the house.
How safe is tethering for both my computer and phone?
Your phone is just acting as a wireless router, simple as that. Put a password on the wireless signal as you would a router and all is fine.
No one can send anything to your phone.
The wifi version saves you on price and 3g subscriptions but not on the convenience of just being on 3g in a flash. If you don't need to be on all the time, then the wifi version is the way to go.
Which carrier are you on? As long as you stay within your plan's data package, I see no issue with occasional tethering. It's when you abuse it by letting the whole dorm leech on for hours or torrenting that 4gb Justin Bieber concert etc, that it becomes an issue.
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Is wireless tethering safe?
I connected my Mac to it, and I also connected my Dad's iPod to it and a friends iPad, just to test it out.
Can things be uploaded/sent to my phone from doing that?
Am curious because am wanting to get an iPad 3 (sorry!) and my thinking is that I can get the wifi only version and use the 3G on my phone.
In fact, I had to connect my Mac to it for an hour or so since we lost power in the house.
How safe is tethering for both my computer and phone?
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What's an Ipad 3?
Boo
Just simply enable security and put a password on the connection and you will be fine.

Unusable wifi

I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
simon.n.jonez said:
I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
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I am struggling with Wifi speeds on mine. I am having to switch to 4g regularly.
I am not too worried yet as I have 8gb data, but eventually i'll be worried as it runs out lol/
The speed tests show a good speed and ping, but it disconnects or slows down/freezes a lot.
I'm waiting on updates.
Thanks for the reply.I get data fine over 4G too.the chappy wifi is annoying as I have wifi everywhere I go...but no 4G signal at home
simon.n.jonez said:
... I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.
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Confirmed, same experienced here.
Didn't the z1 have this problem
That may depend on the router or its settings. Had the same "freeze" issue when connected to my AVM 7490 router set to use channel 100 for 5GHz. Ever since I changed it to channel 48 no more such problems so far.
My bluetooth is similarly awful, in both range and functionality.
WiFi constantly drops and freezes, always has a weak connection compared to my other devices.
Sony have always cheaped out on wireless chips for any of its hardware products, especially things like playstation products (PS4 wifi is the worst I've ever seen), but I didn't expect it for a £500 smartphone!
Ditto. Great 4G on a 10GB cap.
But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
Out of various devices it's the only one, and I've had more devices on.
I'll change the chanel, clear dhcp allocations and usual stuff and see if there is any difference
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Mine seems to have sorted itself out.had excellent wifi at home and up the parents.
Yeah for all their positives sony do pass on some crud wifi chips. Ps4 good example.
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
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Swapped it for another router (I got a random duplicate from my isp, glad I kept it) and the problems gone. Mostly. still drops from time to time. but usable
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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It seems to be random. My mate has a launch day model like me, and his WiFi is excellent to his 6 year old Sky wireless G router.
I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
The same thing seems to apply to the Z3. So its a sony thing. My first Z3 the wifi and BT were unusable. 3rd Z3, and wifi is the best I've ever used on a mobile device, and I havent even connected to my AC network yet to try. Bluetooth I've yet to try though.
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I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
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AVM Fritz!Box here, newest model, got it when I moved because I'm on a business contract, even though I didn't want it. Has a multiuser NAS, SmartHome and whatnot, and one app for everything.
But when on WiFi with my MacBook Pro, ping times sometimes go up to over 250 ms, then back down to the usual 12. I have no idea why, it doesn't happen when connected to it via Ethernet. Bandwidth itself never seemed to be an issue though, and the Z3 performs great with it though.
TL;DR: Trying a different router can make a huge difference.
I was having the same wifi issues...my network was saved, I kept re typing my password thinking maybe I entered it in incorrectly but kept getting the "Authentication Failed" message. I was able to get the phone connected to my home wifi buy simply hitting the "Forget" option...then it automatically read the IP address and accessed the network...smh hopefully this helps for Everybody else....or some at least

Anyone manage playing Grid Games without 5ghz wifi?

the title says it all. I am awaiting my shield tablet and just noticed the requirement of 5ghz wifi for shield grid. I do not have this currently and was wondering if anyone has managed to play grid games without or if it is an absolute no go. I have 50/50 speeds so I know I am good on that front.
Secondary question but I assume I am good here, I have ordered a usb otg to use my xbox 360 wireless controller. If I get an Ethernet adapter and use my ouya controller would this then eliminate the issue with the 5ghz requirement? I know I would have to root my shield and tweak a file to get the ouya controller working
mcord11758 said:
the title says it all. I am awaiting my shield tablet and just noticed the requirement of 5ghz wifi for shield grid. I do not have this currently and was wondering if anyone has managed to play grid games without or if it is an absolute no go. I have 50/50 speeds so I know I am good on that front.
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Grid is not nearly as demanding as NVIDIA wants you to think. I just got my SHIELD Tablet yesterday, and played Grid games all night on a 2.4Ghz wifi connection, on 10/1.5 speeds, in console mode, in an apartment complex filled with interfering wifi networks. Worked like a charm with no slowdowns -- actually *smoother* than Portal was running natively, though that would probably be fixed with a factory reset, which I failed to do last night.
So yeah, Grid away, man. Grid away.
I was able to play Strike Suit Zero with some drop connections (few seconds), also on wifi was GF's iPad being used.
I blame the connection on the AT&T Modem/Router/Wifi Router.
Works just fine for me on a number of 2.4GHz routers.

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