Anyone manage playing Grid Games without 5ghz wifi? - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

the title says it all. I am awaiting my shield tablet and just noticed the requirement of 5ghz wifi for shield grid. I do not have this currently and was wondering if anyone has managed to play grid games without or if it is an absolute no go. I have 50/50 speeds so I know I am good on that front.
Secondary question but I assume I am good here, I have ordered a usb otg to use my xbox 360 wireless controller. If I get an Ethernet adapter and use my ouya controller would this then eliminate the issue with the 5ghz requirement? I know I would have to root my shield and tweak a file to get the ouya controller working

mcord11758 said:
the title says it all. I am awaiting my shield tablet and just noticed the requirement of 5ghz wifi for shield grid. I do not have this currently and was wondering if anyone has managed to play grid games without or if it is an absolute no go. I have 50/50 speeds so I know I am good on that front.
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Grid is not nearly as demanding as NVIDIA wants you to think. I just got my SHIELD Tablet yesterday, and played Grid games all night on a 2.4Ghz wifi connection, on 10/1.5 speeds, in console mode, in an apartment complex filled with interfering wifi networks. Worked like a charm with no slowdowns -- actually *smoother* than Portal was running natively, though that would probably be fixed with a factory reset, which I failed to do last night.
So yeah, Grid away, man. Grid away.

I was able to play Strike Suit Zero with some drop connections (few seconds), also on wifi was GF's iPad being used.
I blame the connection on the AT&T Modem/Router/Wifi Router.

Works just fine for me on a number of 2.4GHz routers.

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[Q] Very Slow Wifi (Family Edition)

So I have a Xoom FE, obviously, and when I'm browsing the internet in the stock browser, browsing the market, watching netflix, anything that requires internet in general is incredibly slow. Like almost unusable.
I know my internet is fast enough because both of my computers and other devices (Xbox, Droid, Sony Blu-Ray) fly on my network. We use a good Netgear router that's a full a/b/g/n dual band device running on 2.4 and 5Ghz.
The browser is usually painfully slow no matter what, and any of the apps that have anything to do with video are just pathetic. No videos load quickly, mainly in the YouTube app or when browsing to a video on the web, IGN for an example. Once they load enough they rarely keep playing for very long before stopping to buffer, and that's very noticeable in Netflix especially.
I've done Google searches and tried nearly everything that's been suggested, but most of that stuff is for the original Xoom. Not many seem to have gone for the FE. If anyone has any ideas on what I can try I'm open to ideas, even including the router settings. Like I said my internet speed is fine, I can stream 4k YouTube clips without buffering on my PCs.
Gosh over 100 views and no suggestions! Not even 1? Man...
Does this happen on other wireless networks? Or only on your own?
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I have the family edition and I have great internet speed. I have a pc, laptop, xbox 360, evo 3d, Hp touchpad, and the xoom FE all on the same router and still the xooms internet is fast. So it might be a router problem for you
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That's what I was trying to isolate.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either. In a couple weeks I'll be staying at a house with wifi when I go skiing, I'll definitely be paying attention to the speed there.
Its definitely the worst with video, whether it be flash or the youtube app itself the video just loads incredibly slow. Flash videos are nearly unwatchable if not because of the speed because of the glitching. Something I saw hadn't been fixed in the Xoom 2 when I read Engadget's review.
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I watch videos just fine. YouTube, netflix all that good ish with no problem
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Run Speedtest. If it's slow compared to your laptop, then try changing the wifi router protocol. If it's using WEP, try changing to WPA. I had this issue with my nook color and changing to WPA fixed internet speed issues.
Well I ran a speed test on all the devices I have. My laptop, Droid Charge and my desktop (which is hardwired) all reached just about 5mbps. That isn't bad, my AT&T DSL is supposed to peak at 6. This stupid thing hit under .5mbps, notice that POINT. That's less than half 1mbps. Thinking it might just be the browser I downloaded the app (which doesn't have a honeycomb version apparently), it fared slightly better with about 1.5mbps. Both tests had a ping of about 400ms, while all other devices were less than 20ms.
The router is already set to WPA, so I'm not sure what else to try. I'm thinking about trying the push button connect on the router to see if it helps.
Got netgear?
Just got fed up with mine after 2 years.
Granted it was draft n, and dropped the ssid broadcast daily, but even wired it slowed to a crawl most likely due to spi (stateful packet inspection). Try without it on if you got it.
Or buy a cisco router (they bought linksys). All my phone, tablet and pc related connection issues stopped when I replaced mine.
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I haven't really used it on another router for any significant length of time. Unfortunately that means I can't isolate that as a problem either...
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Try to find a free WiFi hotspot near you and go there to test it. There has to be some where near you that has free WiFi.
Our local McDonalds in my podunk town of 5000 has free WiFi.
It is worth a try.
did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
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did you ever find a solution to your problem? I'm experiencing slow download; choppy flashplayer, youtube is pretty much useless. i'm on cable with wi-fi modem. i'm beginning to think its the crappy modem provided by the cable company. but my desk top and net book are doing fine. anywho, any input would be greatly apreciated
I never did find a solution. The symptoms you listed there are exactly what I'm living with. I haven't the slightest idea what might be causing it. The router appears to make no difference as I use it everywhere I go and the symptoms never go away for me. It's still useable, but slow. The other thing that bugs me is the browser's lovely habit of just force closing whenever it feels like it. Very annoying. I'm holding out hoping the ICS update can bring some fixes for us.
What ROM are you using? (Stock, Rooted? EOS ROM?) What type of router do you have?
Details can help you. 5 Mbps is horrible. If you're sharing that bandwidth with other active nodes, then that's even worse.
I have a Netgear WNDR3700 router. This one here. I'm on the stock rom, un-rooted. There's plenty of devices in my house sharing the network for sure, but only about 3 at a time are actively using the internet. Most of the time less than that. 6Mb DSL is the fastest thing we can get where we live (there's no cable in the middle of nowhere).
As I said before, even with many devices using the internet at the same time, my Android phone and all my other devices EXCEPT my Xoom speed test at near 5Mbps. The tablet is lucky to hit 1.5Mbps. I just don't get it. I haven't noticed the slowdown on any other routers, but honestly I don't use it much for the web outside of the house, just mainly reading and games.
I use a number of testing devices, and the Motorola Xoom Family Edition is by far the quirkiest--there must have been severe quality control issues at Motorola with that tablet.
I ran into the incredibly slow Internet speeds. Oddly enough, restarting the device fixed THAT Family Edition problem... for now.
I really don't know what it is about this tablet, it just seems to run very slow. Even when I tethered it to my 4G LTE phone (I get about 15-20mbps where I am) it was slow to pull up videos and pages (pages loaded quickly once they started). I think it needs some optimization for sure. I have a feeling they swapped in some new hardware and didn't touch the software from the original Xoom and that's where our problems are coming from.
Hopefully they actually try with ICS, though my hopes aren't high that we'll even get it this quarter, or if we do that it will be any better.

[Q] Can anyone else block WiFi reception with their hands?

A lot of people have issues with the antenna on the Shield tablet. Some of us are able to block WiFi transmission or severely weaken it by putting our hand over the corner of a tablet (happens to me just by holding the tablet in portrait mode with the camera on the top).
I am a new member so can't link to the YouTube video I made demonstrating this phenomenon. I can't post a link because I'm a new user, but it's titled: Nvidia shield tablet bad WiFi design, don't buy a lemon.
Another YouTube posted a video a week ago showing the same effect. His video is called: Nvidia shield tablet, how to hold your tablet in your lap.
I'm on the 2.4ghz band in the video only a room away. Does it happen to you guys too? Do you have any other issues with the WiFi on this thing?
Thanks.
WiFi reception isn't as strong as other devices I have in the home, and I can decrease the signal by holding the bottom right corner when held in portrait in particular, but I've not managed to choke the reception entirely or have it be a practical issue at all.
I haven't notice any WiFi signal degrading when holding the tablet at all. but then again I have an AC87R router that outputs pretty crazy signal strength.
My router is ASUS top of the line AC router from last year, probably helping me also.
I'm on my second shield tablet and niether have had any WiFi issues. And I use a crappy centrylink router. Grid works perfect.
Mine has weak wifi and am going to get a replacement from amazon tomorrow. Hopefully it's just my unit. I may invest in a new AC router next.
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I think I have problems with Wi-Fi too. For example, playing Modern Combat 5, connection is lost many times...Maybe it's a Gameloft problem...
Sometimes I have issues with downloads on Google Play too....
I don't know if it's a problem or not...or if it's a hardware or software problem...

Unusable wifi

I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
simon.n.jonez said:
I'm loving my z3 but for the life of me I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.it's not my wifi as I have tested my note 3 on the same connection and it's the same on other networks.does anyone else have this problem or a solution
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I am struggling with Wifi speeds on mine. I am having to switch to 4g regularly.
I am not too worried yet as I have 8gb data, but eventually i'll be worried as it runs out lol/
The speed tests show a good speed and ping, but it disconnects or slows down/freezes a lot.
I'm waiting on updates.
Thanks for the reply.I get data fine over 4G too.the chappy wifi is annoying as I have wifi everywhere I go...but no 4G signal at home
simon.n.jonez said:
... I cannot get a tidy wifi connection.it doesn't drop the actually connection but just freezes or slows down to an unusable amount.
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Confirmed, same experienced here.
Didn't the z1 have this problem
That may depend on the router or its settings. Had the same "freeze" issue when connected to my AVM 7490 router set to use channel 100 for 5GHz. Ever since I changed it to channel 48 no more such problems so far.
My bluetooth is similarly awful, in both range and functionality.
WiFi constantly drops and freezes, always has a weak connection compared to my other devices.
Sony have always cheaped out on wireless chips for any of its hardware products, especially things like playstation products (PS4 wifi is the worst I've ever seen), but I didn't expect it for a £500 smartphone!
Ditto. Great 4G on a 10GB cap.
But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
Out of various devices it's the only one, and I've had more devices on.
I'll change the chanel, clear dhcp allocations and usual stuff and see if there is any difference
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Mine seems to have sorted itself out.had excellent wifi at home and up the parents.
Yeah for all their positives sony do pass on some crud wifi chips. Ps4 good example.
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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But shocking wifi. It won't connect to I my router half the time, and the other half drops the connection after 10 minutes.
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Swapped it for another router (I got a random duplicate from my isp, glad I kept it) and the problems gone. Mostly. still drops from time to time. but usable
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I seem to of narrowed my problems down to the router at work so Yaay lol.
As for Ps4, I think they're getting some unfair stick. I have mine connected to crappy BT home hub and the wifi connection is excellent.
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It seems to be random. My mate has a launch day model like me, and his WiFi is excellent to his 6 year old Sky wireless G router.
I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
The same thing seems to apply to the Z3. So its a sony thing. My first Z3 the wifi and BT were unusable. 3rd Z3, and wifi is the best I've ever used on a mobile device, and I havent even connected to my AC network yet to try. Bluetooth I've yet to try though.
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I have the newest homehub, one of the best rated routers on the market right now, and the connection from my PS4 to it is incredibly unstable. Every online game lags horrendously, especially BF4. Plus on my 80mb connection it allows for 3MB/s downloads at most. With an wired connection, no lag at all, and the download speed hits max every time.
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AVM Fritz!Box here, newest model, got it when I moved because I'm on a business contract, even though I didn't want it. Has a multiuser NAS, SmartHome and whatnot, and one app for everything.
But when on WiFi with my MacBook Pro, ping times sometimes go up to over 250 ms, then back down to the usual 12. I have no idea why, it doesn't happen when connected to it via Ethernet. Bandwidth itself never seemed to be an issue though, and the Z3 performs great with it though.
TL;DR: Trying a different router can make a huge difference.
I was having the same wifi issues...my network was saved, I kept re typing my password thinking maybe I entered it in incorrectly but kept getting the "Authentication Failed" message. I was able to get the phone connected to my home wifi buy simply hitting the "Forget" option...then it automatically read the IP address and accessed the network...smh hopefully this helps for Everybody else....or some at least

Streaming...

Hey guys
After much thought, I will be grabbing the WiFi model of the shield tablet
I was going to grab the galaxy tabpro/s line but gamestream is something that won me over. I can play my games on my bed when I feel like it
Now as for streaming.. I tried steam in home streaming since I don't have a nvidia gpu right now, which I will be getting in a few months..
Steam was a bit laggy, it said slow network a couple of times since I have a pretty bad wifi setup
Right now my wifi setup is my landlords wifi since it's included in my rent as utilities.
I have a router as a repeater to repeat the free wifi upstairs and then ethernet from the router to my computer
It's a pretty bad setup.. does anyone have any suggestions to improve this?
The only thing would be to get my own internet and then ask my landlord to lower my rent
Thanks
I dont know much about repeaters, but as understand from your post it just transform the wifi to cable? If that is the case you only need to attach that cable to a router with 5ghz wifi since the streaming only will use the local netwok
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Hey guys
After much thought, I will be grabbing the WiFi model of the shield tablet
I was going to grab the galaxy tabpro/s line but gamestream is something that won me over. I can play my games on my bed when I feel like it
Now as for streaming.. I tried steam in home streaming since I don't have a nvidia gpu right now, which I will be getting in a few months..
Steam was a bit laggy, it said slow network a couple of times since I have a pretty bad wifi setup
Right now my wifi setup is my landlords wifi since it's included in my rent as utilities.
I have a router as a repeater to repeat the free wifi upstairs and then ethernet from the router to my computer
It's a pretty bad setup.. does anyone have any suggestions to improve this?
The only thing would be to get my own internet and then ask my landlord to lower my rent
Thanks
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If you buying this tablet just for the streaming, understand it isn't an exclusive feature. You can use the Limelight app on most devices. But the Shield is definitely far superior to the other last-gen tablets you listed. Tegra K1 is an amazing performer.
Do you have a good router? It could be worth upgrading your router. You could get a 4G LTE portable hotspot with unlimited data and use that perhaps (or tether your own connection if you have an unlimited data plan). You can perhaps use an ethernet cable with the Shield Tablet for better signal. Drop down to the lowest settings if you have to (720P @30FPS).
Thanks
The landlords router upstairs is only 2.4GHZ so yea..
Repeaters just repeat the signal so it's better signal but will always half the bandwidth so I'm not sure how to get a better setup..
I can't change any of the APs router settings as I have no access to it

Shield K1 - Wifi performance Tips?

Hello Everyone,
I had my shield k1 update to nougat last week, I am very happy to see that nvidia is still supporting the device :good: !
Well my question is about the wifi; few months ago I got the fiber coming into my house! After the connection upgrade I started to realize that the wifi on my shield k1 is very inconsistent (speed and range).
Using speedtest by ookla, a 2.4ghz router (can´t get the 5ghz working on the shield due to wrong canal that cannot be change on the router...), a 50mbps fiber internet connection; I got results that varies between 2mbps to 50mbps with an average of 20mbps sitting in the exact same spot (6 feet from router).
Of course I checked with computers, smartphones everything is fine (no variation and a lot better range..), so seems that my router is working great.
Also, after update to nougat nothing has changed... After a clean install neither...
Does anybody has experienced the same problem on his tablet? Is there any solution?
I asked on the geforce forum, people seems to have wifi problems but I couldn´t find an explanation or solution.
Also I have seen videos on youtube about this issues, the good or bad thing is that I am not the only one affected
Thank you for your help and have a nice day!
Sorry for the bump. But I'm also having bad connections on my k1. All my devices except k1 works fine. Wifi drops randomly.
AFAIK Shield WiFi uses 2.4GHz whereas the 5GHz is reserved exclusively for the controller.
Oh, and no WiFi issues on Lollipop. Just saying..
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AFAIK Shield WiFi uses 2.4GHz whereas the 5GHz is reserved exclusively for the controller.
Oh, and no WiFi issues on Lollipop. Just saying..
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Wrong, i get 5ghz working. But needles to day, the K1 WiFi range is much shorter than my oneplus one, always been since L to N
But you don't use the controller simultaneously, aye?
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But you don't use the controller simultaneously, aye?
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I use both 5ghz wifi and a controller (old wifi one) simultaneously with no problems
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I think the problem is (as reported and pictured) that the antenna is right on the bottom of the tablet where you [usually] have your hands.
Plus, I have this unsubstantiated impression that the tablet is being very finicky on otherwise usually normally working low RSSI values.
EDIT: hardware fix

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