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Update + Root without unlocking bootloader.

I have a rogers one x, running 4.0.3 / 1.94.631.3.
I'd like to update to the newer software version so I can have the official version of the 3 dot mod (using the tast button as a menu/task button).
I'd also like to be rooted again.
I really dont want to unlock my bootloader yet though, is there a way to update my phone without having to unlock my bootloader>?

Berserk87 said:
I have a rogers one x, running 4.0.3 / 1.94.631.3.
I'd like to update to the newer software version so I can have the official version of the 3 dot mod (using the tast button as a menu/task button).
I'd also like to be rooted again.
I really dont want to unlock my bootloader yet though, is there a way to update my phone without having to unlock my bootloader>?
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You can't root these phones without unlocking the bootloader. If you're already rooted, you're already unlocked. Just flash a 4.0.4 rooted stock rom.
Edit: This applies to 2.20 only. If for some reason you're still on a 1.xx firmware, you may not need to unlock.

Technically not true...
Earlier versions of the firmware 1.7 - 1.85 you could root without unlocking keeping the phone true to stock but with root. In the bootloader you get just the tampered flag but still locked.
You might able to keep root with root ota keeper from play store or if you have the pro version of supersu there's an option for it try keep root but I don't think these are 100% guaranteed to work.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda premium

thejosh86 said:
Earlier versions of the firmware 1.7 - 1.85 you could root without unlocking keeping the phone true to stock but with root. In the bootloader you get just the tampered flag but still locked.
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You're right; it's been so long I forgot about that. We actually got root on 1.73 first, then unlock about two weeks later.

iElvis said:
You're right; it's been so long I forgot about that. We actually got root on 1.73 first, then unlock about two weeks later.
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Haha yeahhh I know what you mean - feels like forever ago now.
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I'm worried that unlocking my bootloader will instantly void my warranty.
But i would love to play with custom roms and have up to date software.
I'm assuming there will most likely never be a way to restore the bootloader flags, so it looks like it has never been unlocked.

Berserk87 said:
I'm worried that unlocking my bootloader will instantly void my warranty.
But i would love to play with custom roms and have up to date software.
I'm assuming there will most likely never be a way to restore the bootloader flags, so it looks like it has never been unlocked.
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Root/boot loader unlock doesn't necessarily mean you warranty is void. If you have a hardware issue the carrier will usually give you a replacement
The only way we could restore the flags is by getting s-off and that doesn't look to promising at this point
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I'm on Rogers and my phone has been rooted and the bootloader unlocked since the day I got it.
I did have to send my phone in for a warranty repair for the volume buttons. I left the custom rom I was running at the time on the phone.
Rogers replaced my phone as they could not repair my first one. So I don't think you have to worry to much about it if it is a hardware issue.

josh3794 said:
I'm on Rogers and my phone has been rooted and the bootloader unlocked since the day I got it.
I did have to send my phone in for a warranty repair for the volume buttons. I left the custom rom I was running at the time on the phone.
Rogers replaced my phone as they could not repair my first one. So I don't think you have to worry to much about it if it is a hardware issue.
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Good to know. That was my biggest concern.
I'll most likely be doing a 'one-time-swap' through rogers since my phone has the worst bluetooth ever, then ill start the root/unlock after.
Thanks for the help. :good:

Can't unlock bootloader

Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared

Assuming you're in the right forums (Verizon HTC M8), you can't use HTCdev to unlock the phone. Thee only way to unlock the Verizon version of the phone is through a 3rd party unlock method, that was created by jcase and his team, called Sunshine. Here's their website for thee unlock: http://theroot.ninja/

Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to get the unlock token at htcdev and I keep getting this message after I submit the copied txt from the fastboot result.
"Error code: 172. Error reason: CID not allowed (MID not exist in model rule)."
PLEASE... any help would be most appreciated.
System info:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/2wrw5rjia39a43l,7tbtdftnp8goph8,1e1h80ub7q1bhq8/shared
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You cannot unlock you're boot loader. You have vzw 4.4.4 firmware. Sunshine doesn't work on that yet. You are S.O.L. until they update.
Sorry.

Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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silver04v said:
Sunshine does everything. Except if your phone is up to date, you can't do anything cause nothing works for the 4.4.4 vzw m8
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RuLEoF2 said:
Does it work on 4.4.3?
I'm only asking because I've having an issue with my screen and I was planning on taking it back to exchange it. When I got this one, it had 4.4.3 on it and then I got the 4.4.4 OTA. it's a gamble, but if the new phone still has 4.4.3 on it, then I can just dodged the OTA and try sunshine on that one.
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Ok. So, does sunshine work on 4.4.3?
In any case, the sunshie web page says that root is required but I can't root it.

Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.

RuLEoF2 said:
Hi… Thanks for the speedy reply.
That's my my second dilemma. Root is a requirement and towel root isn't working either. So, I'm running in circles. I can't use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader because its not rooted and I can't root it because I can't unlock the bootloader.
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zax10 said:
Root is required and yes it will work on 4.4.3. Sunshine has a temp root utility built in to the program so it is all in one system.
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Very good. Thank you for the clarification.

RuLEoF2 said:
Very good. Thank you for the clarification.
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1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does

bdizzle1686 said:
1 more thing to clarify, I have a Verizon M7, and TowelRoot DOES work, there's just a hidden trick for our phones.... Tap the welcome/ intro msg that appears when u open the towelroot app (i believe I had to tap 3 times) and a string of numbers appears , u change the last number from a 0 to a 1 and then it works for our phones. It's not needed for sunshine, but for ppl who wanna take the shortcut after sunshine of just downloading and using flashify to flash recovery (root or temp root required) it works. It was Towelroot V3 I believe. I'm on 4.4.3 sense 6 m7, and I know it worked on 4.4.2 when everyone was saying it didn't work, so if it's something u wanna look into, give it a try. Even the website I believe said it didn't"officially" support our phones, but after doing that trick, it does
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Sounds risky.

RuLEoF2 said:
Sounds risky.
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Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.

The Stig 04 said:
Wrong phone too. I would stick to sunshine. Cost $$ but comes with support if needed.
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Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.

RuLEoF2 said:
Good point.
bdizzle1686, thanks for the tip but I think I'll wait.
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Not a problem, and yeah it probably does pose some risks, just figured I'd let ya know. Alotta ppl just see that the app doesn't"officially" support any of the htc one phones and take that as fact when it's really not true. I did it with my phone n haven't had a problem, but had I known at the time the risks of doing it that way pose, I probably wouldn't have done it that way

Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.

RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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If you're bone stock S-ON with 4.4.4 then you cannot root the phone yet. Probably won't be able to till early January when the new sunshine is released.
If you're bone stock S-OFF on 4.4.4 all you need to do is flash a custom recovery and then flash the latest SuperSU zip file.

RuLEoF2 said:
Ok… please forgive my frustration but can someone please explain to me how rooting this phone works… or doesn't work.
I rooted my HTC Incredible and my Rezound with ease. I got pretty comfortable with adb so I went on flashing roms and other mods. They were so easy but now everything seems to be so complicated with this phone.
I'm going nuts trying to understand these confusing threads where it sounds like you need to root the phone in order to root the phone. Even though they don't work, I see instructions to use firewater, towelroot or weaksause so that you can use sunshine. I read where someone was asking for help because sunshine wouldn't work and they couldn't figure it out because the phone was already unlocked, rooted and s-off. ,isn't that what sunshine does… unlock, root and s-off?
My HTC One M8 is bone stock, off-the-shelf with kitkat 4.4.4.
What do I need to use sunshine, now with 2.7.1 or later with 3.0?
Can I use an RUU to downgrade to 4.4.3 so that sunshine 2.7.1 will work?
Is sunshine REALLY the only way that works… or doesn't work (right now)?
Thank you in advance for your help and your patience.
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.... and to ease your confusion: What a lot of people get mixed up is
temp root with weaksauce + firewater worked for some devices on 4.4.2 (hardware variants making the difference).
For those 4.4.2 weaksauce+firewater did not work and all 4.4.3 M8s there's only Sunshine (and it temp-roots the device in the process)
4.4.4: beaups announced they are shooting for a first week of January release for Sunshine 3
And no, you cannot downgrade to 4.3 with S-on.

Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117

dottat said:
Time to try your luck with the new weaksauce and sunshine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ncluding-4-t2971591/post57462117#post57462117
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That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?

RuLEoF2 said:
That worked! Bootloader is now UNLOCKED and S-OFF. Thank you!! I must have had the earlier version of weaksause.
Still no root though. SuperSU keeps failing when I try to update the binary online and my desktop is out of commision so no recovery yet either. I've got a new desktop on the way which should be here by the end of the week.
Is there anything I can try in the meantime?
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You can download from the play store the app called flashify to put a custom recovery on since no CPU right now u said, then you can download thesuperSU.zip llatest from XDA and flash it in said custom recovery. That should get you rooted.

[Q] Rooting A Device Still On 4.4.2

I recently purchased a Verizon M8 on swappa and the seller claims it to be on 4.4.2. Is there any other legacy method that can still be used to root this without paying for sunshine?

enzyne said:
I recently purchased a Verizon M8 on swappa and the seller claims it to be on 4.4.2. Is there any other legacy method that can still be used to root this without paying for sunshine?
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With it being on 4.4.2 the weaksauce/firewater exploit combo might work for you. However I don't know if it is still out in public to be used. I'd say just drop the 25 on sunshine and support the wizards who can unlock these devices for us

Shamestick said:
With it being on 4.4.2 the weaksauce/firewater exploit combo might work for you. However I don't know if it is still out in public to be used. I'd say just drop the 25 on sunshine and support the wizards who can unlock these devices for us
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Yea I tried to find a mirror for firewater but no luck. I just wanted to see if there was a way to do it without paying of course being the cheap scumbag that I am. Guess I'll just go the sunshine method. Thanks man.

enzyne said:
Yea I tried to find a mirror for firewater but no luck. I just wanted to see if there was a way to do it without paying of course being the cheap scumbag that I am. Guess I'll just go the sunshine method. Thanks man.
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I also had a snake in my wallet. But since firewater failed numerous times i decided to get my phone s-offed with sunshine method. Also be sure to upgrade to 4.4.4 if you are going to s-off with sunshine.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW

CHEVYbarracuda1 said:
I also had a snake in my wallet. But since firewater failed numerous times i decided to get my phone s-offed with sunshine method. Also be sure to upgrade to 4.4.4 if you are going to s-off with sunshine.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW
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Gotcha. So just RUU to 4.4.4, then use sunshine to get s-off. Thanks for the help. Anything else that I should know specific to this phone? I'm coming from a droid ultra.

enzyne said:
Gotcha. So just RUU to 4.4.4, then use sunshine to get s-off. Thanks for the help. Anything else that I should know specific to this phone? I'm coming from a droid ultra.
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That's preety much it. Ruu to 4.4.4 run sunshine and enjoy your unlocked phone
Sent from my HTC6525LVW

Also, after you are on 4.4.4 and S-off with Sunshine first... you can take the OTA to Lollipop while retaining S-off. Then once on 5.0 with S-off, you can flash TWRP recovery and be permanently rooted, S-off, stock Lollipop. You just can't update to LP first, then S-off. But it works the other way around, it carries over through the OTA upgrade.

baune7 said:
Also, after you are on 4.4.4 and S-off with Sunshine first... you can take the OTA to Lollipop while retaining S-off. Then once on 5.0 with S-off, you can flash TWRP recovery and be permanently rooted, S-off, stock Lollipop. You just can't update to LP first, then S-off. But it works the other way around, it carries over through the OTA upgrade.
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Gotcha, thanks for all the tips guys.

Advice on Rooting & a clean ROM for Verizon M8

Hi All,
I've had the M8 from Verizon for over a year. I bought this unlocked from the US but am using it in Europe (Denmark) with another service provider. However, as you know Verizon has its bloatware on it and various restrictions that do not let me use the wifi hotspot, USB tethering, etc. Apart from various nagging issues, the most annoying is that I haven't been able to upgrade the ROM (due to another Verizon restriction). And I'm still stuck with OS - 4.4.2.
The questions I need advice on:
1) I want to have a clean ROM and still have the facility to update my OS OTA every time google releases an upgrade.
2) I understand this requires root on my device. If so, what is the best root method for this device? There were a lot of methods around and I'm honestly confused.
I have attemted to root my last HTC One X and succeded after a while. But then when I tried tranferring the phone's data via the built in transfer data app..the phone froze and bricked itself in a way. As I had this device with me by then, I did not spend time to recover the One X, yet. Therefore, my apprehension to get a ROM that I will not need to worry about too much and it would be clean and let my phone function efficiently and without any nags.
Any and all advice will be appreciated!
Thank you.

rubendayal said:
Hi All,
I've had the M8 from Verizon for over a year. I bought this unlocked from the US but am using it in Europe (Denmark) with another service provider. However, as you know Verizon has its bloatware on it and various restrictions that do not let me use the wifi hotspot, USB tethering, etc. Apart from various nagging issues, the most annoying is that I haven't been able to upgrade the ROM (due to another Verizon restriction). And I'm still stuck with OS - 4.4.2.
The questions I need advice on:
1) I want to have a clean ROM and still have the facility to update my OS OTA every time google releases an upgrade.
2) I understand this requires root on my device. If so, what is the best root method for this device? There were a lot of methods around and I'm honestly confused.
I have attemted to root my last HTC One X and succeded after a while. But then when I tried tranferring the phone's data via the built in transfer data app..the phone froze and bricked itself in a way. As I had this device with me by then, I did not spend time to recover the One X, yet. Therefore, my apprehension to get a ROM that I will not need to worry about too much and it would be clean and let my phone function efficiently and without any nags.
Any and all advice will be appreciated!
Thank you.
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are you S-OFF? check in bootloader. turn off device. hold volume down and power to enter bootloader and it will say S-ON or S-OFF.
If you are not S-OFF you the only way to get root is using Sunshine - http://theroot.ninja/ - it costs a very fair $25.
After that you can flash custom recovery and then flash ROMs that have tethering unlocked in the ROM.
you can also without root or anything and being S-ON flash the latest Verizon RUU and get your phone up to date instead of being on KK, we now have MM. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/official-ruu1-55-605-2-t2883845

andybones said:
are you S-OFF? check in bootloader. turn off device. hold volume down and power to enter bootloader and it will say S-ON or S-OFF.
If you are not S-OFF you the only way to get root is using Sunshine - http://theroot.ninja/ - it costs a very fair $25.
After that you can flash custom recovery and then flash ROMs that have tethering unlocked in the ROM.
you can also without root or anything and being S-ON flash the latest Verizon RUU and get your phone up to date instead of being on KK, we now have MM. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/general/official-ruu1-55-605-2-t2883845
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Hi andybones,
Thank you. Sorry for the delay.
The bootloader says S-On.
Do you suggest flashing a stock ROM? What about the bloatware and the restrictions from Verizon?
Secondly, will it be possible to get the OTA updates if I have a clean ROM? If so, any suggestions on a clean and efficient ROM that would get me the OTAs automatically and not have the hassle to flash new ROMs as quite simply I hate having to add my google and other account details keyed in each time I flash and have a new ROM.
Thank you for your reply.

rubendayal said:
Hi andybones,
Thank you. Sorry for the delay.
The bootloader says S-On.
Do you suggest flashing a stock ROM? What about the bloatware and the restrictions from Verizon?
Secondly, will it be possible to get the OTA updates if I have a clean ROM? If so, any suggestions on a clean and efficient ROM that would get me the OTAs automatically and not have the hassle to flash new ROMs as quite simply I hate having to add my google and other account details keyed in each time I flash and have a new ROM.
Thank you for your reply.
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If s-on and locked you can't flash anything until you do sunshine
Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

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If s-on and locked you can't flash anything until you do sunshine
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Hi Tapatalk,
Thanks.
I still haven't received a clear answer on if after completing the Sunshine, will it be possible to get the OTA updates if I have a clean ROM? If so, any suggestions on a clean and efficient ROM that would get me the OTAs automatically and not have the hassle to flash new ROMs as quite simply I hate having to add my google and other account details keyed in each time I flash and have a new ROM.

Root, unlock, s-off on marshmallow

I am new on this phone and I have a doubt, my phone is in marshmallow and the company verizon, as I can do root and unlock the bootloader ? I have understood that I need to pay 25 dollars to make the s -off but I just want to do root and unlock the bootloader. Thank you.
Sorry for my English

The only way to do it with Verizon branded m8 is to use sunshine. And that will get you an unlocked bootloader and s-off. After that you can flash twrp recovery through adb (get yourself familiar with and, it'll help you greatly. You can search around here and find some good reads on it.) After you get tarp flashed then you can flash supersu in twrp, then you'll be rooted.
Sent from my HTC One M8 using XDA Labs

jurington said:
The only way to do it with Verizon branded m8 is to use sunshine. And that will get you an unlocked bootloader and s-off. After that you can flash twrp recovery through adb (get yourself familiar with and, it'll help you greatly. You can search around here and find some good reads on it.) After you get tarp flashed then you can flash supersu in twrp, then you'll be rooted.
Sent from my HTC One M8 using XDA Labs
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This comment pretty much guided me through how to root for my m8. Thanks for taking the time to post this, even if it was a few months back. I was about to give up until I saw it, so thanks again!

Dismayed/Encouraged
I'm surprised that there are not any viable options for the Verizon HTC One(M8). I figured since my warranty was up I would try and root to get more freedom from the consuming Verizon bloatware and needless/redundant processes.
I know I did the same thing with my Samsung Galaxy S years ago and it became a very speedy and efficient phone. I really haven't been in the Android scene since so everything I did learn along with the methods and processes have all faded from memory.
Now I'm just reading up on a ton of stuff to get reacquainted. I was wanting to flash TWRP, SuperSU, and the ViperOneM8 6.1.0 rom. My wife and I both have a Verizon HTC One(M8) (running Marshmallow) which are out of warranty and wanted to give them a face-lift and boost in performance.
It is looking like the only feasible option is with Sunshine. . . . . . I hope. (?)
A $50 investment would be cheaper than buying 2 newer phones.
Any ideas, input, or pointers would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
wantin2mod