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Has anyone tried ART?

Finally got the OTA for my Moto G and it appears you can swap Dalvik for ART. Has anyone tried it and seen a difference?
Tried doing it with my Gnex but it borked it (was one an incompatible ROM).

dreadnatty08 said:
Finally got the OTA for my Moto G and it appears you can swap Dalvik for ART. Has anyone tried it and seen a difference?
Tried doing it with my Gnex but it borked it (was one an incompatible ROM).
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I'm using ART. All apps are working, no problem yet. One thing — I marked increase time of apps installing, and it's normal ART's feathure. General impression that ART+KitKat working faster and more smoothly than JB+Dalvik

Yes art here as well. Noticeable speed improvement across every aspect of ui
Moto Gee :-¢

Here is a posting detail which apps do and don't work under ART
http://www.androidruntime.com/list
Just in case you have a 'must have' app & then find out it won't run under ART

ruslanche said:
I'm using ART. All apps are working, no problem yet. One thing — I marked increase time of apps installing, and it's normal ART's feathure. General impression that ART+KitKat working faster and more smoothly than JB+Dalvik
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May I ask if the apps you have installed use more RAM while they are running?
Has you installed any system monitor apps and compared the RAM usage on some of the apps that you have installed?

iamwyim said:
May I ask if the apps you have installed use more RAM while they are running?
Has you installed any system monitor apps and compared the RAM usage on some of the apps that you have installed?
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I think that these are a bit unuseful questions, because in near future we have always only ART, so it's a bit unseful at least for me to do these questions i think.. :good:

Does having ART on the Moto G gives us more battery life?

monchee said:
Does having ART on the Moto G gives us more battery life?
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Google's developers promise faster and more efficient execution, better battery life, and a more fluid experience.

Xposed or ART?
So if you have to choose between ART and Xposed, what would you prefere at this stage?
My G has still not arrived yet, have to wait till January to test it but that's a question what bugs me.

I've had very similar experiences switching to Android Runtime with both my N4 and Moto G. My biggest perception is that there is a decrease in the load time of most apps. Once an app is running, I'm not sure that it is any smoother then under dalvik, however, I certainly don't notice and any lagging with either model. One thing I have observed with the N4 but so far not yet with the Moto G is a slight decrease in battery life when running under ART.
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mokkami said:
So if you have to choose between ART and Xposed, what would you prefere at this stage?
My G has still not arrived yet, have to wait till January to test it but that's a question what bugs me.
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No brainer to me, I stick with Xposed (I want Xprivacy and Gravity Box).
I tried ART briefly on my Nexus 7 2013 and the performance impact was not even measurable in benchmarks. I do however believe that this will change with further updates to ART.

I have ART enabled and use xposed along with all of my normal modules. No need to choose.
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big gulps huh? said:
I have ART enabled and use xposed along with all of my normal modules. No need to choose.
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Impossible. Xposed doesn t work on art.

Well now I feel like an idiot... I had ART enabled before unlocking my bootloader. I didn't think to set it again so I guess I am not using it. I guess I choose xposed over ART
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DaveinAsia said:
I've had very similar experiences switching to Android Runtime with both my N4 and Moto G. My biggest perception is that there is a decrease in the load time of most apps.
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That would definitely happen - it has no need to run JIT first. I am wondering, did you run Antutu on ART?

I had to disable ART.. phone was acting up and some apps I use don't work with it. Might try to enable it again when I have time to mess around with it
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[Q] Kernel, ART or custom roms : what are your best solutions for battery saving ?

Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:

zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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zepretender said:
Hi
I've allready configured everything I can with Stock rom and I've installed Linaro / Franco kernel. It seem good. Now, I just want to talk about your own experience to improve battery life with Nexus.
I want to switch to ART, but Google's message is clear : "Warning!"
Does it change something? Have you tested long enough to verify that it works well?
I still have important battery drain and I will study everything I can to improve experience with this fantastic device ! :laugh:
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Hello, I have been using ART since a week now and I have never had any major issues.
Some issues I had were:
Apps gets closed when you open them (just retry)
GUI bugs with Any.Do

alb3rtt said:
ART worked flawlessly (no issues) for me and noticeably increased battery life but incompatibility with xposed is a deal breaker.
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I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...

zepretender said:
I've heared a lot about Xposed. What's this ? I can't find clear infos where I can install it...
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Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
And read the op and then try installing gravity box through the download button in xposed box, you will love it for sure
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battery life is determined by your personal usage, your person setup, your personal method of app management, and most importantly battery life is determined by the quality of your personal data/phone signal. everything else, including undervolting, only provides negligible results. thats why no matter what rom you are running, no matter what kernel you are running, no matter if you are using dalvik or ART, there are people that will say that it gives them great battery life while others say it doesnt give them great battery life.

[Q] ART Vs. Dalvik

I was looking in the developer options and noticed I can switch between ART and Dalvik. Has anyone switched to it in the D801 and if so is there any stability problems?

anthonyramos01 said:
I was looking in the developer options and noticed I can switch between ART and Dalvik. Has anyone switched to it in the D801 and if so is there any stability problems?
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changed to ART this morning, haven't had any problems yet.

anthonyramos01 said:
I was looking in the developer options and noticed I can switch between ART and Dalvik. Has anyone switched to it in the D801 and if so is there any stability problems?
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Switched over to ART and Jishnu's modded camera app won't work with it, so I switched back. Didn't notice any difference in battery life or speed while on ART.

ART is just a placebo as of now, there are no real benefits in using it.

mannequin said:
ART is just a placebo as of now, there are no real benefits in using it.
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Can you explain why you think this is? I read a few articles on Android Authority and Android Police, both of the sites confirmed that ART runs quicker and is more efficient on the battery than DALVIK.

I switched back to Dalvik after I noticed a few problems with certain apps. Even had a little problems with the XDA app. ART isn't optimized for all apps yet. I wouldn't recommend using ART yet.

Been using it for the past few days. The first boot with ART gave me mediocre battery results but I'm guessing everything had to settle because since that boot I've been able to observe a noticeable difference in longevity. As far as performance goes, I can't tell the difference between ART and Dalvik.

I noticed my phone was generally quicker in most things, but I was getting random screen freezes so switched back to dalvik, Ran on ART for about a week. Im on 100% stock.

Cleaners, which one is the best?

As title says, which one ram/junk cleaners are the best?
I have HTC M8 and I know HTC have its own Boost+, is it worth using?

I like the Smart Booster Xposed module, but it's root/xposed only. When I don't have root, I use CCleaner, i've tried dozens of others and they all seem to include the same amount of extra bloatware, The apps that come from CM (clean master) all have some kind of cleaning utility at the cost of installing maybe a dozen more crapapps.
Maybe there are others that work well but I just use smart booster because all of my devices are rooted right now. If there is something better than CCleaner, that would be great
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Sharp852 said:
As title says, which one ram/junk cleaners are the best?
I have HTC M8 and I know HTC have its own Boost+, is it worth using?
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To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.

Asiance said:
To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.
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Well,i have already Greenify, that is must one ?...and what abiut those .zip flashing tweaks? Worth? Any recommendations?
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Sharp852 said:
Well,i have already Greenify, that is must one ?...and what abiut those .zip flashing tweaks? Worth? Any recommendations?
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I dont know, I never tried flashing tweaks.

Asiance said:
I dont know, I never tried flashing tweaks.
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The "official" TWRP app does it, and does it well. I was looking for one that did the same for CWM, but could not find one.
I have an upside-down TWRP installed into one of my devices, it was the only way to get a recovery installed. I downloaded the image from Needrom and use Carliv's Kitchen to apply the kernel info from my own Stock Recovery. The only problem (other than the GUI being upside down while the touches are rightside up) is, my Stock recovery is 6.5mb and the TWRP is about 13mb. So I don't know what problems that might cause. The Magic MTK TWRP installer won't work because the recovery that it creates is just 100mb bigger. I only use the recovery to root the device, because the slider is easy to figure out where to slide. Everything else is almost impossible to navigate, so the TWRP app comes in handy. I did wipe my Dalvik Cache from the recovery, I think you can do that as well from the app.
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Asiance said:
To be honest I never trust the stock version of anything. I much rather prefer to root, install a recovery and seek the best possible.
I am sure that the HTC stock boost is not bad and works, however it isn't the best for sure. Any app on the play store will provide about the same usefulness and will probably blast you with ads and other bloatware. I never tried the "Smart Booster Xposed module" but I will give it a try.
It may seem nice to see "RAM freed" but you can just close the apps yourself and free the RAM. I remain skeptical of how much these apps really do. For maximum performance I use greenify and amplify, two apps that extend battery life by limiting apps by hibernating them. However you need root and xposed framework installed.
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Smart Booster is handy because you can automate it, to clear running tasks and caches at various intervals. Without it, my devices are using about 90% of the RAM, Smart Booster brings that down to about an average 50-60% Depends on what apps you have installed though. You can also Hibernate apps in Smart Booster, so that they don't run until you actually need them, and then they shut down after you're done.

i never trust any cleaner or antivirus apps for phone. I doubt whether they work or not.
sometimes, they even make my phone more sluggish than usual. that's bad

Dont kill me but...S7 Edge Exynos with MM might be the best phone for a while

So I been following the Pixel and Pixel XL forum for a while now, it seems like xposed and rom developement is either slow or in the case of xposed framework none existence. I think the S7 edge under Marshmallow will be the best phone with the best android firmware for a while... so to those who would want to update to the latest and greatest, realized that xposed might not even reach Samsung Nougat for a long time.
The next best thing I found was the Oneplus 3t which have MM out of the box, however you can opt for installation of Nougat if you like. CM13 is still available and there are dev for it. other than that, I dont see any other phone beating the S7 edge Exynos version.

Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.

Jxck said:
Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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then u never played with xposed....

Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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I have! I've tried both vanilla, and a custom rom with all the trimmings.

Agree i went back to mm after 3 months of N since beta, yes N is a bit snappier but for the cost of bad battery life, mm is still fast and remember s7 edge has a fast hardware so its very unlikely to face lags etc.
Mm is fast reliable and xposed is ready to be used !

If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..

From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).

Galactus said:
From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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thedisturbedone said:
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?

junear said:
I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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Snapdragon model = No idea about Exynos March firmware battery life.

thedisturbedone said:
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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there are xposed modules that could save you money, someone in here already listed it, so I wont mention it again, trying to keep it discrete so it could last a while. Grace UI is also on the Note 7 rom, which i am running from Rennovate, so I am not missing anything.

LyLu said:
WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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Casper can be used with a new Google account. It hasn't banned me for anything so far. But make sure you don't login to Casper. Use it as a root session. This means you still need Snapchat to be installed. Plus Casper doesn't support chat function yet... So you can't completely replace Snapchat either.
YouTube background play can be done via a cracked apk. I think OGtube? Honestly not sure about this.
Appops is not something I've used, but Android 7 allows you to modify permissions and I use a firewall AFwall+.
Greenify works completely fine without Xposed. I've been very happy with it.
Minmin.. AdAway does the job for me very well.
Rootcloack is similar to Magisk. You can get past safety net with it.
Xtouchwiz has no equivalent but there are many customizations baked into the ROM I use-Renovate. And I think Superman ROM has equally or more.
I'm sure others will have more alternatives!

Nougat on s7 edge really transforms the phone in all aspects. The UI is prettier, snapier, smoother, with more options. The whole experience of using the phone is improved by 100%.
As regards battery life, at least my Exynos variant, is much much better when it comes to battery. The doze mode works better, and in general I get fantastic SoT.
Maybe nougat is optimized currently for the Exynos processor...? and maybe in some further updates the nougat firmware will be improved for the SnapDragon variant models ?

I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.

nitrous² said:
I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify

kloodee said:
Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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No, none at all. My only explanation would that I don't use social media apps, except for the occasional tweet and some lurking on G+ and Reddit.

Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.

Faspaiso said:
Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.

Just to Admit I regret didn't buy this phone...
I am looking for S8 and hope to buy it

Chord_Hugo87 said:
some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
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I never had problems get "hacked" either. But it is a fact that your rooted phone (and definitely with Xposed Framework) are more prone to attacks and other kind of malicious things, while bugs also happen far more. It's not even a debate you can have, as it's a well-known fact in the Android universe, which is also the reason many devs don't recommend or support it on their rom. The logcat is filled bugs, even though you don't see them, they're there and both slow down phone, drain battery and cause other problems and now or then bugs will happens that will be irritating like apps crashs.
We could just as well argue for the earth being round or flat, where you were on the flat side.