This is just a personal survey.
Hello, could you please comment the following:
I will be using SoT as basis since it is the most used battery usage reference.
You can also include some details on how you use it.
Best Approx. SoT (Screen-On Time) from 100% to 15% battery
Variant (D820 or D821)
Date Bought
CPU Binning (optional)
My thought is, that battery usage isn't only based on how the user use it, but from the device itself.
I want to conduct this survey to know if what I think is correct.
Thanks a lot!
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If you wanna test your theory you need to get a control group of devices. They must all be used in an IDENTICAL manor. This survey won't help you prove a thing other than people use their phones differently. But we already know that don't we.
While @Lethargy does have a point, the goal of this thread is a different one, which is why I'll keep it open.
But please make sure to keep it on topic and don't let it become similar to the already existing thread.
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Hello everyone,
I'm running some tests to see the battery consumption on my Galaxy S i9000. I'm using the gingerbread version of darkys ROM.
Firstly, what do you think of the battery life? In this specific test I used the phone in a very light way, made some messages/calls and read few mails.
Secondly, is it normal to have depressions in the battery chart that display less battery than it shows later? How is it computed? Isn't just some logic level of the voltage battery?
Lastly, in the case of buying another battery, is it worthless to be genuine?
Thanks a lot
Someone close this thread, I double posted it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13928515#post13928515
I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information out there regarding the best practices of "conditioning" a battery when you first get your phone. Some say to let it go from 100-0% for a least 3-4 cycles. Others say to keep it in the 80-40% range. What is certain is that numerous users report their S6 battery getting better after using it for a week or two, so there does seem to be some sort of a break-in period.
My understanding is the S6 still uses a Li-Ion battery (not a Li-Poly). Does anyone have scientific backing on the proper way to condition this type of battery when you first get it? Also, what are the best practices for charging over the next two years of owning the phone to ensure the longevity of the battery? I'm not looking for pseudo-science and placebo effect lessons learned here, but actual scientifically backed findings.
My goal is to quickly get my battery up to it's full capacity/potential, but also allow it to last as best it can over the next two years I have it on contract.
Magic815 said:
I've been seeing a lot of conflicting information out there regarding the best practices of "conditioning" a battery when you first get your phone. Some say to let it go from 100-0% for a least 3-4 cycles. Others say to keep it in the 80-40% range. What is certain is that numerous users report their S6 battery getting better after using it for a week or two, so there does seem to be some sort of a break-in period.
My understanding is the S6 still uses a Li-Ion battery (not a Li-Poly). Does anyone have scientific backing on the proper way to condition this type of battery when you first get it? Also, what are the best practices for charging over the next two years of owning the phone to ensure the longevity of the battery? I'm not looking for pseudo-science and placebo effect lessons learned here, but actual scientifically backed findings.
My goal is to quickly get my battery up to it's full capacity/potential, but also allow it to last as best it can over the next two years I have it on contract.
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Here you have some tips on how charge cycles should be, also some science behind it.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-get-the-most-from-li-ion-batteries/
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Preferably on the lower side of that sum - I'd prefer to spend 40-50 euros, 60 is only if the deal is really good. I also don't mind buying a used phone with virtually invisible crack or a couple of cracks on the screen that wouldn't interfere with functionality in any way.
Currently I had ASUS Zenfone 5, which I find okay in terms of performance (I need something at least as powerful), although the battery life was horrible (I bought it used so that might have been the problem). Having said that, I want my battery life to be as long as possible - those are the only two criteria. I will be installing a custom rom from this site of Android 6 (or is there Android 7 already?).
Please ask any questions if needed.
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I'm not sure but if you want to use a custom 6.0 rom (and you know that off the bat), I'd look through the forums. I'm not sure if all phones have had custom roms made, so the phone you do decide to get would be dependent on if a rom you'd like to use is available. Battery life is also dependent on the rom/features within that version of a rom and how you use your phone. So, somebody could recommend a phone because of how their battery life is but yours may be completely different. I had a MotoG 2013 for quite a few years (just "upgraded" to a Samsung S4 a couple months ago). I know I was getting about 1.5-2 days from the MotoG 2013 as far as battery life goes, running a custom 6.0.1 rom. I miss that phone because I'm only getting (at best) 12 hours battery life with my Samsung S4 - usage is exactly the same on both phones.
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I'm not sure but if you want to use a custom 6.0 rom (and you know that off the bat), I'd look through the forums. I'm not sure if all phones have had custom roms made, so the phone you do decide to get would be dependent on if a rom you'd like to use is available. Battery life is also dependent on the rom/features within that version of a rom and how you use your phone. So, somebody could recommend a phone because of how their battery life is but yours may be completely different. I had a MotoG 2013 for quite a few years (just "upgraded" to a Samsung S4 a couple months ago). I know I was getting about 1.5-2 days from the MotoG 2013 as far as battery life goes, running a custom 6.0.1 rom. I miss that phone because I'm only getting (at best) 12 hours battery life with my Samsung S4 - usage is exactly the same on both phones.
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Well, the phones that don't have such ports are probably too old in terms of performance anyway. But there is of course a general idea of battery life, and the conditions would be web browsing (mostly).
phonebuyguy said:
Preferably on the lower side of that sum - I'd prefer to spend 40-50 euros, 60 is only if the deal is really good. I also don't mind buying a used phone with virtually invisible crack or a couple of cracks on the screen that wouldn't interfere with functionality in any way.
Currently I had ASUS Zenfone 5, which I find okay in terms of performance (I need something at least as powerful), although the battery life was horrible (I bought it used so that might have been the problem). Having said that, I want my battery life to be as long as possible - those are the only two criteria. I will be installing a custom rom from this site of Android 6 (or is there Android 7 already?).
Please ask any questions if needed.
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Take a look here:
https://android-repo.com/2016/08/20/best-budget-android-smartphones-under-200/
Thread closed, we already have a thread for this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
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I searched this before posting, but the thread had no replies from January so hoping I can gain some insight and clarification on this.
I am new to Android and avoided it for a long time due to being perfectly satisfied with my Blackberry Q10. However a few years ago, I was intrigued by the original Pixel and knew whenever I switched , if I went Android it would be a Pixel. It ended up being a Pixel 2.
I say this because I spend a lot of time googling and researching before i ask a question to make sure i am as familiar as possible before i ask something that can be found just as fast on my own.
That being said, i can't find an answer to "What is a typical capacity loss over a number of months...?"
I just got the phone in January. Didn't know anything about capacity until i noticed a huge drop in expected battery time after unplugging my phone. It used to be 21-23 hours expected from 100%. Now its only about 10-15 hours, depending on the day. Researched batteries and learned about Accubattery. Looked at the health and saw i'm only at 2284 our of 2700. It says GOOD health..but is that really good health after only 3 1/2 months? Also..unfortunately i have no idea what the original real life capacity was because i never checked until End of March when i discovered Accubattery.
Just wondering should i return the phone or accept this level of battery. At this rate..does't seem like I will get through a year on this phone.
ADDITIONAL INFO - I have used 3rd party charging cables (Nekteck)and Samsung bricks. The cables give me roughly the same amount of juice as the charger that came with the phone ( around 1300 Mah max, more juice if I'm charging from a lower percentage start point )
Tone96 said:
I searched this before posting, but the thread had no replies from January so hoping I can gain some insight and clarification on this.
I am new to Android and avoided it for a long time due to being perfectly satisfied with my Blackberry Q10. However a few years ago, I was intrigued by the original Pixel and knew whenever I switched , if I went Android it would be a Pixel. It ended up being a Pixel 2.
I say this because I spend a lot of time googling and researching before i ask a question to make sure i am as familiar as possible before i ask something that can be found just as fast on my own.
That being said, i can't find an answer to "What is a typical capacity loss over a number of months...?"
I just got the phone in January. Didn't know anything about capacity until i noticed a huge drop in expected battery time after unplugging my phone. It used to be 21-23 hours expected from 100%. Now its only about 10-15 hours, depending on the day. Researched batteries and learned about Accubattery. Looked at the health and saw i'm only at 2284 our of 2700. It says GOOD health..but is that really good health after only 3 1/2 months? Also..unfortunately i have no idea what the original real life capacity was because i never checked until End of March when i discovered Accubattery.
Just wondering should i return the phone or accept this level of battery. At this rate..does't seem like I will get through a year on this phone.
ADDITIONAL INFO - I have used 3rd party charging cables (Nekteck)and Samsung bricks. The cables give me roughly the same amount of juice as the charger that came with the phone ( around 1300 Mah max, more juice if I'm charging from a lower percentage start point )
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Stop apps from running in the background. Your WhatsApp, Facebook, Marco Polo, weather widgets, etc are using your battery.
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I don't have many running in the back. I don't have Marco Polo or Whatsapp. All my others I shut down to and when I check apps are using very low percentage. But my question is more the battery health reading. is 2200 healthy after 3 months use?
Is the phone battery actually draining twice as fast now or is the battery reporting just wrong?
The phone seems to behave normally, but being I'm not an Android user for long I don't know what normal is. I know things differ phone to phone. If I use my screen and read articles the battery drains fast to me. Compared to others who consider reading as light use. I get "better" life if I watch videos. I suppose because I'm not touching the screen. Streaming I can do for hours. I think what I'm trying to understand is...how accurate and important is a battery capacity reading? Should I be concerned that it says im only getting around 2200 out of 2700? For an almost phone I would think the capacity would be closer to the design capacity?
Tone96 said:
The phone seems to behave normally, but being I'm not an Android user for long I don't know what normal is. I know things differ phone to phone. If I use my screen and read articles the battery drains fast to me. Compared to others who consider reading as light use. I get "better" life if I watch videos. I suppose because I'm not touching the screen. Streaming I can do for hours. I think what I'm trying to understand is...how accurate and important is a battery capacity reading? Should I be concerned that it says im only getting around 2200 out of 2700? For an almost phone I would think the capacity would be closer to the design capacity?
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Take a screen shot of the reduced battery capacity reading and send it to Google's customer service from your support menu in the system settings.
Hi, lately I've been reading articles on different websites about how to extend the lifespan of the battery, myths and truths about charging the phone and all that and pretty much all coincide in the same points, a couple of points being 1) "don't fully charge your battery" and 2) "heat will affect the life of your battery"; so taking the second point as true then it will make sense not to fully charge the battery in one session, which makes me wonder: if I fully charge my phone in 2 sessions will it be beneficial to battery's lifespan (eg: 1st session charge from 1% to 70% then let the battery cool down and then on 2nd session charge up to 100% ) or it's irrelevant and it still would be considered as a "mistake" as per point number 1?
Hope to be clear on what I'm asking and maybe someone can share their wisdom with us, thank you! :good:
ps: apologies if I posted this in the wrong forum.
erikrh said:
Hi, lately I've been reading articles on different websites about how to extend the lifespan of the battery, myths and truths about charging the phone and all that and pretty much all coincide in the same points, a couple of points being 1) "don't fully charge your battery" and 2) "heat will affect the life of your battery"; so taking the second point as true then it will make sense not to fully charge the battery in one session, which makes me wonder: if I fully charge my phone in 2 sessions will it be beneficial to battery's lifespan (eg: 1st session charge from 1% to 70% then let the battery cool down and then on 2nd session charge up to 100% ) or it's irrelevant and it still would be considered as a "mistake" as per point number 1?
Hope to be clear on what I'm asking and maybe someone can share their wisdom with us, thank you! :good:
ps: apologies if I posted this in the wrong forum.
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1 and 2 are separate issues.
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erikrh said:
Hi, lately I've been reading articles on different websites about how to extend the lifespan of the battery, myths and truths about charging the phone and all that and pretty much all coincide in the same points, a couple of points being 1) "don't fully charge your battery" and 2) "heat will affect the life of your battery"; so taking the second point as true then it will make sense not to fully charge the battery in one session, which makes me wonder: if I fully charge my phone in 2 sessions will it be beneficial to battery's lifespan (eg: 1st session charge from 1% to 70% then let the battery cool down and then on 2nd session charge up to 100% ) or it's irrelevant and it still would be considered as a "mistake" as per point number 1?
Hope to be clear on what I'm asking and maybe someone can share their wisdom with us, thank you! :good:
ps: apologies if I posted this in the wrong forum.
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Actually, android has built-in software/hardware that monitors/manages your charging cycle to prevent overcharging and to prevent heat. The real issue comes in when charging and using the device at the same time due to heat generated by the CPU, GPU and the display in addition to any heat that may be generated while it is also charging. The battery management system cannot regulate this extra heat in order to minimize its effect on charging efficiency and it can't control/reduce the additional heat being generated by the CPU, GPU and display. A hot CPU or moderately high temps for long durations isn't good, that heat will eventually begin to cause a breakdown in battery potential.
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