Hello everyone,
I'm running some tests to see the battery consumption on my Galaxy S i9000. I'm using the gingerbread version of darkys ROM.
Firstly, what do you think of the battery life? In this specific test I used the phone in a very light way, made some messages/calls and read few mails.
Secondly, is it normal to have depressions in the battery chart that display less battery than it shows later? How is it computed? Isn't just some logic level of the voltage battery?
Lastly, in the case of buying another battery, is it worthless to be genuine?
Thanks a lot
Someone close this thread, I double posted it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13928515#post13928515
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Basically there are so many threads regarding battery life. I am a battery ***** meaning i do everything i can too gain as much battery life as possible and searching and searching for different ways to improve it.
CUSTOM ROMS
They definitely have a major factor on battery life as they include tweaks and also remove a lot of junk that doesnt need to be there. For me Provens GSM rom has given me the best battery and performance. So for CMDA you will have to test several roms for at least a wk and then pick whichever provided the best.
RADIOS
These are entirely MAJOR battery related and of course signal and GPS related. THERE IS NO BEST RADIO. They all depend on where you live. For me which has recently been released 1.08.25.20M1 Raphael GSM provides great signal and AMAZING battery life. I am located in DC. The radio that i used to use and seems most common 1.02.25.28 Raphael GSM. Again for CDMA you will have to try different radios after finding which rom gives you the best experience for at least a few dys.
So too sum it up
Rom, Radio, Tweaks, & Location play a major part in battery life
Custom roms such as Provens tend to have all the tweaks and best radios selected already.
GSM Radio Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
Tweak your system for performance and battery CDMA & GSM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
I really didnt have to use this program as it was already done in the custom rom.
Before i forget, sometimes the % that displays isnt always correct. Mine tends to hop around sometimes. Also if it reaches say 8% or even 2% you still have alot of time left, i came across this while trying to drain my battery fully a few times and i was waiting for hrs while it was extremely low and windows kept giving me low battery warnings sometimes it even stayed the entire night.
Should you do anything special right out of the box? Power drain the battery? Not charge it until it's fully drained, etc etc? Any tips there as far as maximizing the life and effectiveness?
Thats a valid ? i should have included that. However you will get mixed opinions, some people say too charge it up fully and then discharge fully. Some say charge it fully initially than just charge it whenever you need too.
Personally i would recommend fully charging and discharging it at least 4 to 5 times. Basically dont charge it until it turns itself off, then i just leave it off and turn it on after its done charging.
After that just charge it whenever you need to, but dont TOP IT OFF, which means always keeping it at 90% or above. Also i dont use car chargers unless its an emergency as SOME say the fluctuation of power in the car could cause issues and weather that is true or not i just rather be safe.
specs say the battery is lithium-ion polymer. Same as my helicopters battery pack. (i thought interesting: its actually rated 10 mAh less than an 8525 battery)
"Unlike nickel and lead-based batteries, a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging. Priming will make little difference because the maximum capacity of lithium-ion is available right from the beginning. Neither does a full discharge improve the capacity of a faded pack. However, a full discharge/charge will reset the digital circuit of a 'smart' battery to improve the state-of-charge estimation"
> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
So technically, doesnt matter but doesnt hurt. Yet could help keep the battery level and charger accurate.
edit: oh! an even better read on the issue: "How to prolong lithium-based batteries" http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
I'm new to smartphones
So yeah, I'm new at all this and have no idea what you are saying when you are talking about radios, so I don't know how to do what it is you are saying to do, so any help in that area would be great! Thanks so much.
Hi every one,
I was wondering if there is need to recalibrate the battery on each rom update, custom and lg official releases?
Also i bought a 1900mAh battery so I think it need to calibrated for better performance?
Any advice will be great
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no.
Battery calibration does not affect battery performance, it just changes the accuracy of the battery %age display. There is also no way of calibrating the battery, as it is directly read from the li-ion battery itself. Deleting the batterystats.bin Does nothing besides resetting androids About Phone>Battery Use data - which already resets itself on a full charge (And also broken on O3D GB Roms)
Its actually likely that calibrating the continually will eventually result in considerably worse battery life, as li-ion batteries are best operated between 20-80% charge.
oyanezg said:
Hi every one,
I was wondering if there is need to recalibrate the battery on each rom update, custom and lg official releases?
Also i bought a 1900mAh battery so I think it need to calibrated for better performance?
Any advice will be great
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I saw on the battery calibration app, that it must be recalibrated, since each rom has diferent files to manage power, and it will actually help the battery managment.
Thats what i know, im not an Expert.
tachi_do said:
I saw on the battery calibration app, that it must be recalibrated, since each rom has diferent files to manage power, and it will actually help the battery managment.
Thats what i know, im not an Expert.
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I saw that too, on battery Calibration by NEMA it says:
calibration needs to be done after flashing a new ROM. but you calibrate.. etc. the whole message that why my initial post was about, I saw other posts saynig that it must so ill do it just in case I dont think that will do anyharm at all.
wasn´t calibration just a matter of charging till 100% when off, then remove battery, insert battery and then start phone and plug again??
i do this and my battery it's all good, although i cna't watch a video for more than 3 hrs hahahaha
It actually worked on my ZTE Blade. I believe it's called overcharging.
hi
i dont think so need callibration after each new rom!
it might harmful for battery!
Hello guys, I wonder if you can help me at all. I have a Samsung gt-i9000 running android 4.3 at the moment . When I upgraded the OS (I was on 4.0) I have noticed that the battery life decreased dramatically, It lasts no longer than half a day. I have already changed one battery but with not much success, so
I started to look into high capacity ones. I had a look around and found a few reviews here and there but not specifically for the gt-i9000 – even this useful one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956293 . So I wonder:
1)has anybody tried one of these high capacity batteries on the gt-i9000? I looked at the zerolemon 7500mAh and the anker 52000mAh - although I don't know whether these are compatible with my phone;
2)I presume that the high capacity batteries are actually thicker than the default 1500mAh I have at the moment, so when you buy one do they come with another back cover?
duratto said:
Hello guys, I wonder if you can help me at all. I have a Samsung gt-i9000 running android 4.3 at the moment . When I upgraded the OS (I was on 4.0) I have noticed that the battery life decreased dramatically, It lasts no longer than half a day. I have already changed one battery but with not much success, so
I started to look into high capacity ones. I had a look around and found a few reviews here and there but not specifically for the gt-i9000 – even this useful one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956293 . So I wonder:
1)has anybody tried one of these high capacity batteries on the gt-i9000? I looked at the zerolemon 7500mAh and the anker 52000mAh - although I don't know whether these are compatible with my phone;
2)I presume that the high capacity batteries are actually thicker than the default 1500mAh I have at the moment, so when you buy one do they come with another back cover?
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Hi, I recently bought a Polarcell 1800mAh battery on Ebay which gives me half a day more juice on Galaxy running CM 10.2. I found out that all batteries above this capacity are massively thicker than the original one and do require a wider back cover. Most of these bigger ones are shipped together with a back cover.
Regarding your questions about the zerolemon, I only found batteries for the S2 and the S3 which wont fit for the S1.
not your battery at fault, sounds like you got wakelock issues. with your rom.
thanks guys.
@zegovernator I think I need something more powerful than 1800mAh so I might need to get a bulky one. I have found this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3000mAh-B...-Extended-with-Black-back-cover-/150981110923 that seems to be good enough.
@slybunda, thanks for your comment. If it is an issue with that, would you know how to fix it without me buying another battery?
thanks
use app called better battery stats and see the individual wakelocks I had issues with google currents and hangouts both which I don't use so I disabled them and got my full battery life back. have a look for one of my posts in the i9000 battery threads got screenshots of very good battery life
Got 1800 battery from Anker, very good.
Only charges slowly with the car adapter.
Depends on kernel and rom for how long it lasts.. Was very good using android 4.3 but recently battery was discharging fast after gapps update.
Fine again now on kitkat
Buy from Ebay 1800 in good price,I did =)
I tried posting this in the Q/A section a couple of weeks ago,, with no luck. I thought I'd try here.
Please answer the question IF AND ONLY IF you are currently using the Verizon Retail Galaxy Note 4, SM-N910V, the one that is currently unrootable and has a locked bootloader. NOT the Developer Edition, where that particular bootloader IS unlocked and also this unit HAS been rooted.
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I've read that people have been manually editing root files to get their Note 4's to correctly read the mA rating on extended batteries, or using apps that will calibrate your phone w/ your battery, and these apps require root access.
Have YOU, as a user of the Verizon RETAIL (NOT DE) Galaxy Note 4, tried using an extended battery, whether it be the 10,000 mA ZeroLemon Battery, the Hyperion 8,000 mA battery, or something else, and been successful in getting your device to correctly recognize the new battery capacity and does the percentage decrease correctly?
This is where I'm coming from. I'm on the Verizon Retail Note 4 and I have a ZeroLemon battery. It's still under warranty, but I'm about to send it back for a replacement. Basically, my phone would never recognize any different battery other than the stock size of 3220 mA. Not only that, the ZeroLemon would drain in percentage at the same rate of the stock battery, and stay at 1% for another 12 hours or so.
That said, I've heard people have had better luck with the Hyperion battery, in terms of getting the phone to recognize the battery, better, for whatever reason. What I DO NOT know, is if these are rooted and/or unlocked users of another carrier or not, or if the Hyperion battery is of better quality or of a different battery type.
Can someone comment on the issue, please?
No one has shown proof abd have had it duplicated that modding and file will show proper mah and correct battery life for zerolemon. Yes I have a note 4 from tmobile. And I have a hyperion that works perfect without any mod. The reason is hyperion is a single cell battery. Zerolemon is tricell. As per samsung tech not customer service. It will never read correct cause it does not drain equally. Will always give false reading.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
BACARDILIMON said:
No one has shown proof abd have had it duplicated that modding and file will show proper mah and correct battery life for zerolemon. Yes I have a note 4 from tmobile. And I have a hyperion that works perfect without any mod. The reason is hyperion is a single cell battery. Zerolemon is tricell. As per samsung tech not customer service. It will never read correct cause it does not drain equally. Will always give false reading.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
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Thank you for replying, and I do respect your opinion, even though you're a Tmobile user. Just a long shot, is there any knowledge of an app out there that can associate/calibrate the Note 4 with a TriCell battery, or would be able to help at all w/ the drainage %?
I have the anker 6400 MAH. I posted a review here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/review-anker-6400-mah-extended-battery-t3093619
you can see the battery both charge and discharge with the correct percentage drop, because it is not a tri-cell it is just a larger battery.
as far as i know the tri-cell will and has always done this. there is some discussion in the note 3 forum on it also.
there are claims that editing would help but I remain unconvinced.
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Thank you for replying, and I do respect your opinion, even though you're a Tmobile user. Just a long shot, is there any knowledge of an app out there that can associate/calibrate the Note 4 with a TriCell battery, or would be able to help at all w/ the drainage %?
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It is a hardware issue. All the zerolemon is 3 battery poorly glued together with tiny wire to connect them all so only one battery makes a connection with the phones pins. So as that drains down it feeds of the other one and that feeds off the last one. It just a bad design. So no app will ever fix that.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
cnlson said:
I have the anker 6400 MAH. I posted a review here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/accessories/review-anker-6400-mah-extended-battery-t3093619
you can see the battery both charge and discharge with the correct percentage drop, because it is not a tri-cell it is just a larger battery.
as far as i know the tri-cell will and has always done this. there is some discussion in the note 3 forum on it also.
there are claims that editing would help but I remain unconvinced.
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Let me ask you something. Lets say you use an app, like Charging TIme, which tells you the mA of the battery at full capacity, there might be other apps that do the same thing, or there might be a way to find out in the stock settings, that I don't know how. Would your battery register at 6400 mah or 3220?
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Let me ask you something. Lets say you use an app, like Charging TIme, which tells you the mA of the battery at full capacity, there might be other apps that do the same thing, or there might be a way to find out in the stock settings, that I don't know how. Would your battery register at 6400 mah or 3220?
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Here you go, both the stock and extended, no different in that app, however, you can see the graphs it works correctly.
Hello there, I'm completely new to these forums, so if I post this in the wrong place please correct me! More than glad to learn more about this! I looked at a few guides, and decided this was probably the best place to ask.
Anyways, I recently acquired an older Samsung Galaxy S3 I747M, and managed to get Cyanogen mod on it. (12, I believe)
The battery life originally with the 2100 mah battery was just enough to get me to 6 PM in the evening with 2 hrs screen time or so.
Now, I have a 7000 mah battery attached on to the s3, and I'm still getting the same battery life, just a little better. I've tried switching chargers (without much change), and even testing on the original rom. The original rom gave much better results. So now, I'm looking for a solution to battery drain on cm, or a possible cause for the phone still possibly "thinking" the battery is a 2100 mah one. I checked with a few apps, and it said the battery was 2100 mah, even though it isn't. Not sure how accurate that is.
Perhaps it has something to do with Cyanogen?
Thanks in advance.
With a 7000 mAh battery your phone should be stay on at least 2 times than the original one.
When you changed the battery... have you made a battery calibration? (To do that, for example, into the Play you can find the "Battery Calibration" app...)
If after the calibration the battery life is the same I suggest you to verify if you have installed on your phone some apps that are using too much battery power. (To do that, for example, you can use the "Gsam Battery Monitor" app)
Have you solved the problem?