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This newer version is called the Pipo U1 and as I understand it- it's only availble on merimobiles.com (for purchase). This is a badass tablet using the rk3066 cpu and quadcore mali400/gpu AND higher dpi/resolution. Definately no roms/firmware for it yet- unless the chinese websites have stuff available that we don't know.
How much is it? O.O
It's not available only on Merimobiles; on their page it says "Pre-order". It's also available on other sites (mcbub.com for example).
I've ordered it from Merimobiles last Tuesday, because they assured me that it is in stock; however this does not explain why their page says otherwise.
New Products + Deal
Currently I find these two deals very tempting.
Pipo U1 Android 4.1 Jelly Bean DualCore Quad Mali 400 RK3066 /1GB/16GB /1280x800 IPS $152 on tiny deal dot com
Yuandao N70 Android 4.0.4 DualCore Quad Mali 400 RK3066 /1GB /16GB1024x600 IPS $136 on buy sku dot com
Ainol Elf II Android 4.0.4 DualCore Dual Mali 400 Amlogic 8726-M6 /1GB/8GB /1024x600 $113 on buy sku dot com
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......................Nexus 7......Galaxy Tab 7.7.........Transformer TF700..............Window N70...........Pipo U1........Ainol Elf2
Vellamo............1,706..........1,215.....................1,573.................................1,650....................NA....................NA
Sunspider.........1,711..........1,993.....................1,745.................................1,829....................NA....................NA
0.9.1
GL Egypt............63..............47..........................75.....................................102.......................NA....................NA
Off(fps)
CF bench ..........11,620.........7,135.....................8,357.................................8,921...................NA....................NA
Geekbench2.......1,570................................................................................1,525...................NA....................NA
Antutu...............8,761................................................................................8,138...................NA....................NA
benchmark table via @janesh (reformat tweaks by myself )
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Guys pls add data further to the list.
i would love to see the ainol fire/flame/burning in the list above as well. would be great to get some benches.
How good is it?
Oh, neat. I really hadn't paid attention to the Chinese devices as of late, but it looks like they're becoming more competitive. I wonder what the build quality is like.
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I would stay away from Chinese tabs my first tab was from china site the build quality was bad. The aninol tab looks decent other than that would would stay name brand
Hi,
Everyone is shouting, we will not support Galaxy S4 (I9500) since it is having Exynos which lacks the documentation and sources. Yes, I know that sucks. I would say, we are not really getting super awesome ROMs like CM, MIUI anytime soon. But how if we think differently?
There are many Exynos based devices which have got pretty stable builds of CM and MIUI (e.g. Note 2).. Even Nexus 10 is based on Exynos.
Well, I am not that good but learning to port stuff from here and there.. How if we pick up some of the sources from Exynos devices like Nexus 10, Note 2 etc. and make them work on SGS4?
World will be beautiful again, isn't it?
I might be totally wrong so I expect you to explain stuff rather than ranting over this thread Let's help each other.. What say?
Regards,
Rahul Patil. :good:
It would be incredibly difficult and in my opinion, not worth the effort.
The Nexus 10 utilises Exynos 5250 while the Note 2 uses Exynos 4***(I forgot, 4410,I think), the S4 i9500 uses Exynos 5410 which is different as you can see.
However, some developers will doubtlessly pick up development for the Exynos variant (Faryaab already has an unofficial cm build for the i9500).
For all that effort, cm on the i9500 shall never be as stable and functional as that on the Snapdragon variants.
Well, yes.. Unless and until Samsung releases Exynos documentation and sources. Well, I don't know if there is any chance of getting documents. At least Samsung Exynos replied to one of my tweets regarding releasing sources. They said, they are working on licensing stuff and it should be resolved soon. But you know, their "soon" can be like 2-3 years more too.
warfareonly said:
It would be incredibly difficult and in my opinion, not worth the effort.
The Nexus 10 utilises Exynos 5250 while the Note 2 uses Exynos 4***(I forgot, 4410,I think), the S4 i9500 uses Exynos 5410 which is different as you can see.
However, some developers will doubtlessly pick up development for the Exynos variant (Faryaab already has an unofficial cm build for the i9500).
For all that effort, cm on the i9500 shall never be as stable and functional as that on the Snapdragon variants.
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Intl GS2 and Note1 are Exynos 4210
Intl GS3 and Note2 are Exynos 4412
Nexus 10 is Exynos 5250 - Mali T604 GPU
I9500 is Exynos 5410 - PowerVR GPU and MANY other differences from the 5250
In short, almost none of the Exynos4 stuff is useful, and most likely neither is most of the Nexus10 stuff
Entropy512 said:
Intl GS2 and Note1 are Exynos 4210
Intl GS3 and Note2 are Exynos 4412
Nexus 10 is Exynos 5250 - Mali T604 GPU
I9500 is Exynos 5410 - PowerVR GPU and MANY other differences from the 5250
In short, almost none of the Exynos4 stuff is useful, and most likely neither is most of the Nexus10 stuff
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A vast majority of IP blocks are the same as on the 5250 so there is a lot one can pick from there.
Stupid question; weren't most of the CM problems related with the 2D accelerator and not the GPU itself?
@Rahulrulez any status update on the porting?
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@Rahulrulez any status update on the porting?
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cm team has officially announced that they have started working on cm10.1 for 9500 and they have a device in hand, who is handling the work and when will we see a flashable version in unknown
Hey Guys,
As @[I][COLOR="Purple"][B]Towle[/B][/COLOR][/I] buddy already mentioned that this thread is meant for Discussion over Comparisons & Rumors for Samsung Galaxy S4 variants & upcoming News.
Please note that we can only discussed about the devices which are going to release/released or not in XDA device list.
For making it quite readable, I will paste the link for the threads, Direct link of News, comparisons & rumors. You can also take part for this thread while pasting links or news in your post.
Upcoming Rumored Devices / News: -
Samsung Posts GT-i9505G Kernel Source Files – Is This The Google Edition Galaxy S4?
Announcements:
Samsung officially announces Samsung Galaxy S4 with Snapdragon 800 and LTE-A connectivity
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9500 Specification - Gsm Arena
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 Specification - Gsm Arena
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9502 Specification - Gsm Arena
Samsung Galaxy S4 i9295 aka Active Specification - Gsm Arena
Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom Specification - Gsm Arena
Samsung Galaxy S4 mini Specification - Gsm Arena
Comparisons:Samsung I9500 Galaxy S4 vs Samsung I9505 Galaxy S4 - Gsm Arena
Side by Side specifications comparison i9505 vs i9500 - Gsm Arena
SGS4 i9500 vs. i9505 different camera sensors - XDA
Korea vs. US - Samsung Galaxy S4 - Evertic
Samsung Galaxy S4 Google Edition vs HTC One - Android Geek
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One: Which One Is Better? - Android Geek
Samsung Galaxy S4 Vs Nokia 3310 ( The true and funny one ) - Phone Arena
Samsung galaxy S4 Vs Sony Xperia Z Ultra - Phone arena
Showdown: Nvidia Tegra 4 vs Samsung Exynos 5 Octa - Android Authority
Device Comparisons / Discussions / Rumors
All new, released, rumored or announced devices should be discussed and compared here. Please keep it relevant to the Galaxy S4 with spec comparisons. All other threads that are created for this discussion will be closed. Thank you for your cooperation.
a big challenge is to compare i9500 with the i9505
i had both and tried both but sold my i9500 for an z10 to get BBM
however i think i9505 has its good aspects like
AUDIO(althought not noticeable)(plz dont trash talk abt wolfson chip i bet u all dnt know what is it just saying that )
4g LTE
and huge battery time
dev support
and last its gpu supports glse 3.0
HOwever the i9500 has ups also
like the preformance (not noticeable)
higher gpu(but stuck to glse 2.0)
better camera
well for now the exynos seems a bit unstable causing heat probs but am sure with updates it will be solved
also this is the first sammy-exynos device next devices will keep upgrading and the exynos will become more and more widespread (with other devices not this one)
i think it was a rushed move of samsung to go on with the exynos it needed more testing and development and plz cudnt samsung publish the development codes
for the i9500 its shameful as it aint getting any support by devs
for sure the double quad core is a great device but if u love 4g and developments and want ur device to last longer like for two years and still keep up the race take the i9505
qazmed said:
i had both and tried both but sold my i9500 for an z10 to get BBM
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Isn't BBM coming to Android and iOS late this month?
MajorAly said:
Isn't BBM coming to Android and iOS late this month?
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Rlly idk
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Ya it is late this summer.
OP updated. Soon major rumors / news / announcements will be updated.
Check the News & Rumor section. :good:
A new comparison added to OP. S4 vs Nokia 3310 & S4 Vs Sony X Z Ultra
Correct. BBM is expected to be released end of this month.
Android 4.3 update expected next month for "Google Edition" Samsung Galaxy S4
Android 4.3 update expected next month for "Google Edition" Samsung Galaxy S4
The "Google Edition" of the Samsung Galaxy S4 is expected to soon receive an update to Android 4.3; quick updates are one of the features of the phone, which is powered by stock Android. Leaked images of the software running on the phone show that the update is build number JWR66N; the phone is now available for pre-orders from the Google Play Store and will be shipped by July 9th with Android 4.2.2 on board...
Source & full story: read here
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Android 4.3 update expected next month for "Google Edition" Samsung Galaxy S4
The "Google Edition" of the Samsung Galaxy S4 is expected to soon receive an update to Android 4.3; quick updates are one of the features of the phone, which is powered by stock Android. Leaked images of the software running on the phone show that the update is build number JWR66N; the phone is now available for pre-orders from the Google Play Store and will be shipped by July 9th with Android 4.2.2 on board...
Source & full story: read here
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Damn exynos version
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awesome thread!! definitely bookmarked for reference!
Thanks for bringing ur discussions here. Hope all will understand the motto of this thread and stop making related threads.
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Anygood
helped a lot
Awesome thread.
Linux kernel 3.10 gets big.LITTLE support, should help Ubuntu come to the Galaxy S4
Linux kernel 3.10 gets big.LITTLE support, should help Ubuntu come to the Galaxy S4
Linux godfather Linus Torvalds has certified that the official Linux kernel 3.10 is now in its final state; and, as far as our audience is concerned, the big addition to the Linux kernel is with enhanced ARM processor support. Specifically, the Linux kernel 3.10 has added support for big.LITTLE processors, which should help developers port Ubuntu Touch to the Samsung Galaxy S4 and other devices.
Ubuntu 13.10 has been planned to run on the Linux kernel 3.10, and Ubuntu 13.10 is going to be the version number of the first set of Ubuntu Touch phones. This means that as soon as the final build of the 3.10 Linux kernel is folded into the Ubuntu dailies, work will be able to begin on finally bringing support for Ubuntu Touch to the international Samsung Galaxy S4, which runs on the Samsung Exynos Octa 5. As yet there hadn't been any work to bring Ubuntu Touch to Samsung's new flagship, because right now the daily builds of Ubuntu Touch are based on Ubuntu 13.04.
The addition of big.LITTLE support could also make it easier for future Android devices and even Chrome OS devices to run on big.LITTLE processors, because Android manufacturers won't have to build in support for the processors.
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Linux kernel 3.10 arrives with ARM big.LITTLE support
Thanks to Linus Torvalds' figurative stroke of the pen, the Linux kernel 3.10 is now final -- paving the way for its inclusion in a bevy of Linux distributions, and even offshoots such as Android and Chrome OS. The fresh kernel brings a good number of changes, such as timerless multitasking, a new caching implementation and support for the ARM big.LITTLE architecture. In simplistic terms, the new multitasking method should help improve performance and latency by firing the system timer only once per second -- rather than 1,000 times -- when tasks are running. Meanwhile, users with both traditional hard drives and SSDs will find performance benefits from bcache, which brings writeback caching and a filesystem agnostic approach to leveraging the SSD for caching operations. Also of significance, Linux kernel 3.10 enhances ARM support by including the big.LITTLE architecture, which combines multiple cores of different types -- commonly the Cortex-A7 and Cortex-A15 -- that focus on either power savings or performance. The full list of improvements is rather lengthy, but if you feel like nerding out with the changelog, just grab a caffeinated beverage and get to it.
Source: Engadget
i dont know if i will be happy or feel nothing about this 3.10 Linux update ... i9500 is so far to be updated
gdonanthony said:
i dont know if i will be happy or feel nothing about this 3.10 Linux update ... i9500 is so far to be updated
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3.10 Linux kernel is specially designed for supporting Big.Little CPU. For sure, it will be beneficial to i9500.
Disturbed™ said:
3.10 Linux kernel is specially designed for supporting Big.Little CPU. For sure, it will be beneficial to i9500.
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A newer linux kernel means somethings beneficial to kernels. But the stuff that you talked about is related to I9500's 5410's hardware. The 5410 silicon itself is lacking the interconnect hardware. In that case many is in doubt software cant do much. Lets see what the dev comes up about this.
thekoRngear said:
A newer linux kernel means somethings beneficial to kernels. But the stuff that you talked about is related to I9500's 5410's hardware. The 5410 silicon itself is lacking the interconnect hardware. In that case many is in doubt software cant do much. Lets see what the dev comes up about this.
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Doubt will always be there until it get launched. Lets Hope for the best. Ubuntu Touch is like magic.
so....
Soo... it appears that as I'm assumed imbecile I must post 8-10 general posts before being allowed to post in the dev section (unless I misunderstood something in which case I am indeed imbecile). So here goes no#1.
But.. since I'm here anyway... any news on BBM for Android as mentioned above? As a year old BB user I would like to have BBM on my android.
Disturbed™ said:
Doubt will always be there until it get launched. Lets Hope for the best. Ubuntu Touch is like magic.
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I am planning to buy a phone soon and although I'm not a developer (yet), I would like to try things such as making a custom rom, making my own android apps, etc.
I know Nexus phones are popular among developers but I just don't like the latest nexus phone and it's not cheap anymore. I am rooting for the Samsung Galaxy S7 just because it's popular, and some other features I like.
I found that there are two CPUs to choose from: Exynos and Qualcomm. Exynos version seems to be cheaper for the same memory. Does it matter if the processor is Exynos or Qualcomm if I want to become a developer?
Another phone I'm looking into is the Asus Zenphone 3 Deluxe. Its CPU is Qualcomm and the price is the same as the Exynos version of Samsung S7. Though my first choice really is Samsung.
Thanks!
Sorry, I do not translate English, I do not write or speak English.
Well the phone is national of my country Brazil, well at least it is mounted here, which I think is more certain to say.
Model: Philco Phone 500;
Processor: Qualcomm msm8625 (ARMv7 Processor rev 1 (v7l);
GPU: Adreno (TM) 203.
In Philco's site there is nothing about this smartphone, what I want for help is a way what I need to have for testing / build / port ....
I've never been interested in android development, that's when I came across old smartphones that google apps do not support anymore, it reminded me of XdaDevelopers, and I want to help people with old smartphones and some light to them.
Sincerely, Gabriel.
I had forgotten, I sent a screenscream of the smartphone with screens of the app "Device Info HW" link HERE (imgur)