There are users here in Canada with Note 3's that have "Custom" in "Current Bianary" and "System Status".
This information has not been posted, I have NO idea why. I am guessing these people could care less about us (the people still in the dark).
I have only just obtained a Note 3 (Week ago) and I am trying to figure this stuff out.
We have a special Note 3 in our N900W8's. Apparently we can:
- Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 via Odin 3.09 without tripping Knox (not sure if this requires the Mexican bootloader first or if we can do it with our Canadian bootloaders)
- Keep Knox at 0x0 with Custom Everything else. From what I see, our bootloaders are unlocked allowing us to flash our phones in Odin with multiple files (not 1 file mode as this contains a bootloader) as long as we dont include the bootloader (theory from what I have seen, and read a few times, no confirmation).
However I can not get an answer out of anyone who knows anything. I cannot just blindly flash and see if Knox is tripped, I'll only get one shot. Not worth it IMO.
Can anyone chime in on this? Is it acceptable to call members out? I know exactly who the 2 people are that have Custom everything and Knox at 0x0. 2 Torontonians, younger guys, doesn't seem like they want to talk though. Can I call them in here, is that acceptable behavior? Never done that before. Hehe.
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
I PM'd you but yeah, I'm Knox 0x0 on X-Note 12 right now. Sorry about that, wasn't home.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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That link notes that installing a custom recovery will trip knox. Could you please verify what you did to install custom recovery and still maintain knox 0x0? Will be very interested in your follow-up.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
bingbinghaha said:
Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
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Actually, I would be interested too. Any chance of posting the procedue instead of PM to multiple users? If not, please PM me as well
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
kiru said:
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
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Second that.
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Okay here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tks73wZH3qg&list=UU2FLZg9YNAr4YAd0VEDDKGQ
You have to pause to see it at the beginning, and in hindsight, I probably have should of started in CWM, then booted into recovery, but whatever.
Set it to HD and pause it at the beginning, you can see my Knox 0x0. Then watch the video and I boot into the ROM, then back into CWM, all in one cut.
Cheers.
Same here
Knox 0x0 here, after a few good reasons to trip it
Android newcomer here.
I have a Bell Canada SM-N900W8, and it came with 4.3. Rooted 4.3 with Kingo (noob style) and that was just perfect to start out. Then the OTA came out. I unrooted the device, reseted with Kies 3 update to 4.4.2 and then Kingo wasn't working anymore of course.
At that point I decided I didn't care about tripping knox and installed TWRP to start trying roms... Tried like 2-3 1+gb complete packed roms (bootloops, probably cauz im a noob) then I wiped from TWRP, restored my OTA backup, flashed with CF-Auto-Root international version (canadian is another bootloop) and then flashed a CivZ kernel +stock-modification rom that I now simply keep clean with Titanium Backup and some apps y'all know about.
Some more info :
My version is VLUCNB7
My current kernel [email protected]
My current SE state is Permissive
Again, Knox is 0x0. Even after bootloops of custom crap that was crashing and I'm custom-rom, custom-kernel.
Two facts to finish that off
1) That's weird
2) I'm a lucky *****
Have a great day
What if I want to use a custom 4.3 ROM (just to get BT Tethering) without tripping KNOX?
The guides seems to push you to install the 4.4 ROMs.
I have the Bell version of N900W8.
Started at MI5, rooted de la vega, then wanted to upgrade to 4.4.2.
Used polishpats way of upgrading with the leaked 4.4.2, flashed all the AP,CSC,CP,PIT, then installed TWRP and autorooted, both with Odin 3.09 - no knox trip
Wanted to try X-note, installed it using TWRP, and no knox trip
Upgraded the kernel using TWRP, no knox trip
Did not like X-note, wanted to go back to 4.4.2, and reflashed it - no knox trip
Downgraded back to 4.3, no knox trip
upgraded to offical 4.4.2, no knox trip
rooted via chainfire and odin - no knox trip
now sitting at rooted 4.4.2 with 0x0 still
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
klau1 said:
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
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Hello,
My friend has just the same phone as me, he bought it a few weeks before me, and he used his own techniques and got 0x1 knox tripped, so I just can't warn you enough : not all N900W8 are "untrippable"
...but...I didn't trip mine and I'm not alone.
Without more information you can't just say canadian w8's are untrippable, cauz they are.
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
klau1 said:
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
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I doubt it.
Will look into this. I am positive all N900W8's are the same.
Surely your friend missed something or did something improperly to trip Knox.
Taking this all in. Thanks for the posts guys!
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
klau1 said:
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
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Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
nexxusty said:
Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
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Flashed CF-Auto-Root, flashed TWRP 2.6.3.0, 0x0 still!
Now for the info on my phone.
I have done as follows.
Phone came with 4.3 stock --> Root De La Vega --> Flashed 4.4.2 Stock (Rogers) with Odin 3.09 --> CF Auto-Root --> TWRP 2.6.3.0 = Rooted 4.4.2 with TWRP 2.6.3.0 Recovery and Knox @ 0x0.
I'm not stopping here. Will flash everything DrawntoLife has.
Appreciated my man. Thanks again! Easy to Follow Step By Step Tutorial **WILL** be written tonight after I am done at a LAN I am already late for figuring this out.
Talk soon everyone! Happy flashing!
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
klau1 said:
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
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When I updated to 4.4.2? I did, but I was not sure if that would trip Knox so I left it in the package.
It's irrelevant now anyway, the bootloader in 4.4.2 Rogers is the one I am on now and allowing me to do all this still.
I suggest you update to it. Use the package labeled "N900W8VLUCNB7_N900W8OYACNB7_RWC". That is 4.4.2 for a Rogers Note 3.
I can safely assume you can flash this at any point and be fine. Even if you are already on a hacked 4.4.2 or something. There would be no issue updating the bootloader to the same version, would just overwrite it.
Hi all
I am trying to understand a issue that I am facing. I have a s6 from Vodafone in the UK. I have flashed the EE UK Stock Rom via Odin. Also made sure knox is still set to 0 in the download screen.
When I run My Knox it won't run as I thinks I have a custom binary. I am not rooted at all and have not tripod knox to my knowledge.
Any ideas?
scotishhaggis said:
Hi all
I am trying to understand a issue that I am facing. I have a s6 from Vodafone in the UK. I have flashed the EE UK Stock Rom via Odin. Also made sure knox is still set to 0 in the download screen.
When I run My Knox it won't run as I thinks I have a custom binary. I am not rooted at all and have not tripod knox to my knowledge.
Any ideas?
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Don't even bother with knox, its useless.
Sorry this does not help
did you try to uninstall and then install it again
Yes same issue. Also the device has been factory reset
what about trying to flash the previous stock will it work?
Not tried that but can't find a stock uk voda rom so far
have a look at this link for you stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/stock-firmware-official-stock-firmware-t3086387
Regards
hi guys, since samsung s2 i dont use samsung mobile phones so its a long time
i bought a galaxy s6 and the original room is full of aplications i dont use, the ram avaible is a joke and the battery life isnt very good
i want to install a custom rom
im with the last ofical 5.1.1., if i install a custom rom i will loose right to waranty? there isnt any way of revert the root and count?
thanks
You can unroot the device and reflash the stock ROM, but you cannot revert the Knox counter. Whether or not you loose your warranty depends upon the laws in your country.
so its impossible for now to root, flash custom recovery and flash custom rom without activate the know counter?
Search for the engineering 5.0.2 bootloader. Unfortunately if you are on 5.1.1 already, then it is of no help.
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
icekube187 said:
I have Sprint G925PVPU3BOI1 5.1.1 and was wondering what is the best/easiest way to root this phone. Does pingpong method actually work on this model? If not will other methods trip the knox thing and if it does will that only mean I won't get OTA updates or are there other disadvantages of tripping knox?
Thanks for the help
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You can not root anymore with ping pong root. That only works on early firmware. Only disadvantages of tripping knox is that you won't be able to use Samsung pay if that matters, and it voids your Samsung warranty, meaning if something goes wrong Samsung won't touch it; however, your carrier will.
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
icekube187 said:
Thank you for the prompt information. With that being said is the process to root the model phone I have + 5.1.1 is to download odin put phone in d/l mode,use odin to flash with twrp and then flash rom, and then I can feel the joy or am I leaving out a step? is is correct where can I find the correct version of Odin and twrp, I've seen reference to it on this e but get a little confused about which file is correct for my model.
Thank you again for taking the time to help me
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You must first root before you can install TWRP. There is a rooted kernel that you can use through Odin. Here is my thread with TWRP and the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3102034
Here is Odin:
https://mega.nz/#!SkoGRSjR!JYA62GV9w0rSvsqAYsl_mXZRU6BgnMdkM3Xuc9E7YuM
Thanks for info and the links
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Thanks for info and the links
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No problem
I have a stock N915T purchased about a year ago, it is still on 4.4.4, as I was not going to update to 5.0.1 due to Samsung's own problems. The phone is currently used on the Rogers' network in Canada. My question is can I use ODIN to flash the N915W8 5.1.1 Rogers firmware to my N915T without experiencing any problems? Also would this upgrade replace the Canadian radio on the phone, or would I have to manually flash the radio file?
Thanks in advance.
I would just root what you've got and go from there.
The Radius Kid said:
I would just root what you've got and go from there.
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Thanks for the reply.
However, from my past experiences with Note 2 and S3, flashing with ODIN would unroot the device, essentially bringing the device back to stock.
Wouldn't that be the same case here? ie if I rooted my edge, then flash the w8 firmware, wouldn't that be the same as the method I proposed in my OP?
bballengphd said:
Thanks for the reply.
However, from my past experiences with Note 2 and S3, flashing with ODIN would unroot the device, essentially bringing the device back to stock.
Wouldn't that be the same case here? ie if I rooted my edge, then flash the w8 firmware, wouldn't that be the same as the method I proposed in my OP?
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I'm not suggesting rooting to update the ROM.
I am suggesting rooting and working with what you already have.
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I'm not suggesting rooting to update the ROM.
I am suggesting rooting and working with what you already have.
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Thanks again for the tip.
However, that is not my goal.
I would like to update the rom AND root the phone.