I just ordered the shield tablet from amazon, it should be here in a few days, and I am wondering if I should let the tablet update to lollipop or stay on kit kat. I have read some problems with lollipop like memory leakage and battery issues.
Do the benefits of Lollipop out weigh the glitches?
I haven't used xposed on my current tablet. I know that in lollipop you can't use xposed (I plan to root)
I have yet to see a real benefit lollipop offers. Even SD card compatibility, the one feature I was excited about, is limited to recently updated apps that took advantage of the API. But that's not accounting for the amount of trial and error that goes into making the Google Storage Access Framework actually work with your SD card after the proper apps are found!
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Rumor has it another update is coming soon. Wait and see how that goes
I see no reason not too as long as you follow some simple advice - do a complete wipe of the device afterwards.
If for nothing else, the performance is much better than KitKat. At one point I down graded back to Kit Kat and within a few hours felt it was a different device in terms of lagging. Lollipop does a much better job of having more consistent performance.
I generally have no issues with Lollipop.
Now... is it perfect absolutely not! Battery is not as good or at least the measurements are no longer accurate (which I believe is the case). And it does not address specific pitfalls of the Android OS like SD cards (But with rooting you can fix that easily)...
sky.walker said:
I just ordered the shield tablet from amazon, it should be here in a few days, and I am wondering if I should let the tablet update to lollipop or stay on kit kat. I have read some problems with lollipop like memory leakage and battery issues.
Do the benefits of Lollipop out weigh the glitches?
I haven't used xposed on my current tablet. I know that in lollipop you can't use xposed (I plan to root)
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Ok thanks a lot for everyone's opinions. If a wipe is recommended I might as well do the update from the start.
stanglx said:
I see no reason not too as long as you follow some simple advice - do a complete wipe of the device afterwards.
If for nothing else, the performance is much better than KitKat. At one point I down graded back to Kit Kat and within a few hours felt it was a different device in terms of lagging. Lollipop does a much better job of having more consistent performance.
I generally have no issues with Lollipop.
Now... is it perfect absolutely not! Battery is not as good or at least the measurements are no longer accurate (which I believe is the case). And it does not address specific pitfalls of the Android OS like SD cards (But with rooting you can fix that easily)...
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Was thinking about picking one of these up to replace me lugging my laptop around for school. Is the Wi-fi version of this rootable ? Also If anyone could chime in on their experiences I would appreciate it. Been reading about battery drain and wifi issues make me a little hesitant ?
Yes, the 900 is rootable, at the cost of a tripped knox flag. I've had mine since about a month after it was released, and I really like it. I purchased the Logitech bluetooth keyboard and it has been really good so far. Out of the box, the tablet is great, but if you root, install TWRP and flash the new debloated ROM, the device becomes significantly better. Lag pretty much disappears, boot times are vastly better, and so on. I'd suggest looking into Xposed for additional tweaks for your device as well. I've not experienced the wifi dropouts ( and I think there may be a new xposed module out there for it... do a little searching and you'll find it ) on my device, either pre or post root. Battery drain doesn't seem any worse than any other tablet I've ever owned, but I control what's running with boot manager, and I kill wifi and BT when I know it's going to sit unused for a while.
Hi there guys. Im coming from the stupid Zenfone 2. That device was plagued with problems and mine is still working fine (except for the sim tray being shoddy and there being no technical assistance here in Brazil - at least not competent ones). I've read alot and decided for the Moto Maxx due to its battery autonomy and also because Motorola seems to keep supporting it (Marshmallow update and probably the next updated will also roll out, right?).
I am receiving it from the retailer tomorrow, and got some doubts: is the battery life and performance satisfactory even without rooting/xposed/amplify/greenify and stuff like this? Even if it is, have you guys done it just to improve it even further? I only use Whatsapp and occasionally a few games here and there, but the ****ing Zenfone 2 won't even last through 3 hours SOT.
Can you guys give me your personal opinions on the device? Given the price range, would you nowadays opt for another one or would keep it?
Thanks in advance!
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Can you guys give me your personal opinions on the device? Given the price range, would you nowadays opt for another one or would keep it?
Thanks in advance!
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I bought a 3rd one earlier this year -- new -- to keep as a backup since I like my first two so much (my wife and I use them daily). So, I own three, yeah.
Yes, Marshmallow can be rooted and Xposed installed. Is there a link yet to the OTA? Last I heard people were still installing all three stages of the recent Marshmallow soak test. Stage 3 became the final version, but I didn't know there was a download link yet.
One of the devs who maintains two custom ROMs, TWRP and a custom kernel for this phone (code name Quark), is in Brazil. @baybutcher27.
Of course, Brazil is a big country. I've been there half a dozen times, will be going back in a few months.
Yes the battery life is great, and with custom ROMs + kernel becomes even better. I play games on my Droid Turbo pretty frequently and they run great without a hitch. I love my phone
got mine last month
In my case it was a toss up between this and the HTC A9, a killer phone by all means, sure, it has a nice DAC but the puney 1900mah battery steered me towards the maxx,I use it for gaming ,etc overall medium usage and I never have to get ahold of my charger till night, on days when I don't use it that much it lasts for 1.5 , or even almost 2 days, this is all without greenifying or anything mind you, although the MM ROM I have might've played a good part in it
the audio IMO is a little lacking but overall I'm happy
Hope this helped
Thank you all you guys for your input! Have you tried any custom roms? If so which one is your favourite? Im putting my hands in it later today, cant wait to hammer down my Zenfone 2
Hello,
I would like to ask you, the experienced modders and users of xda, what CFW would you recommend me to install in case I'm looking for a long lasting battery and a smooth experience (rather a minimalistic system than a sleek, but laggy one)? I basically only use my PhQ for reading and writing SMS messages and e-mails, for web browsing, for chatting and internet (video)telephony. Occasionally I watch a YT video or use the GPS navigator.
Given the fact, that the phone has only 1 GB RAM and a 1.5 GHz dual-core processor, would you recommend me flashing it with the up-to-date LineageOS 14.1, or shall I stay with the older, but (supposedly more) stable build of CM 11? Or is there a different (slim) CFW, that would provide me high stability, fast response and good battery life?
Thanks.
I'd use newer than CM11 for sure. Lollipop (CM12) uses ART which makes stuff faster, and improved battery usage, so that's the minimum I'd consider.
I dunno exactly which version off the top of my head, but somewhere later than CM11 ZRAM was added, which keeps stuff from swapping to disk as often, so faster. F2FS support was also added, so if you reformat data/cache as f2fs before you install, that'll speed up disk access too.
I personally see no reason not to use the latest since it has all that, and is officially supported, so if you find something wrong there's people to talk to...
Well, maybe it was just my wrong assumption, but I thought I might want to keep using CM11, because I had read and heard, that Android 5.0 and above had higher HW requirements compared to Android 4.4.4, possibly making the phone with such specifications slower. On the other hand, I've read, that the RAM management and power management are both better with newer versions of Android, therefore I decided to post this question here and ask you xda guys (and girls) for your opinions.
You might be right, I'm no expert, and it's been quite a while since I ran kitkat. But lollipop (on our device) seemed faster to me, and battery definitely better. ZRAM also helps our low memory situation run modern apps, my understanding is it basically compresses what's in memory. Kinda like stacker did for hard drives back in the day if you remember the early 90s. So yeah, it slows down memory access all the time. However, the OS has to swap apps you're not actively using to disk when it needs memory for your current app, and in worst case scenario even will swap background apps out of memory that you expect to remain active. So by using zram, you get effectively more ram even tho its slower to access it, but overall makes things faster. And people who've done actual tests can confirm f2fs speeds things up on any device. I only just started using nougat myself so dunno how it affects performance, probably not any better than CM12/CM13 with zram implemented and f2fs format...
I belive KitKat even supports zram, but as far as I know wasn't implemented in CM11 for our device.
Also, dunno if it was in L or M, but you can now utilize external_sd cards easier. Don't have to keep setting paths for camera/etc to use external_sd, it blends it with your internal storage somehow, haven't paid attention to how it works, but haven't had a need to mess with paths ever since, and since we have only 8GB internal, that's also another nice feature; one completely easily fill that up without any photos or even going crazy with apps. Apparently our device will even work with 128G SDcards, although I only have the same 32G I've used forever. So for me on this device, it's CM12 or newer.
Alright, thanks for your advice. I will appreciate any other input and experience, though.
I'm interested what others might say too actually, I wanna know if other people agree or disagree with me! But being this is an older device, not very active community anymore. Only reason I'm on here every day lately is cuz I just updated myself, which had me checking into things, and am now looking for help getting the keyboard working right (in another thread).
I was running CM11 cm-11-20150626-SNAPSHOT-XNG3CAO1L8-moto_msm8960_jbbl.zip
finally decided to try CM12.1 cm-12.1-20151007-SNAPSHOT-YOG4PAO339-xt897.zip
Its smooth so far, but I'd love to try the lastnightyly/snapshot you have from March 2016 @enigma9o7
Hi everyone,
I have a Verizon S7 flat (G930V). I bought it sometime mid-2016 and it's rooted with the eng kernel on 6.0.1. The baseband is G930VVRU4API3. The bootloader is locked and obviously that's very limiting.
I really enjoy the added functionality that comes rooting, but sometimes the phone hangs randomly and becomes unresponsive seemingly for no reason. I was wondering if there's a better experience to be had by updating to 7.0+, preferably with root.
What are my options now in Q4 of 2017? What's the deal with the "U" firmware? Is there a non-eng way of rooting or any one that doesn't bog down the phone so much, or is non-rooted the only way to go? Can I go from where I am now to where I want to be without wiping my phone, or is that needed/recommended?
Sorry for all the questions. For my past Android devices this info was pretty cut and dry, but it's hard figuring out what's the latest or more well received methods for this device. I love the phone, but going forward I don't think I'll choose Samsung if I want any sort of freedom (basically stuck with Verizon US, though).
Thank you for any direction you might be able to provide me.
I tried rooting with eng.boot kernel on my 930U but didn't like it - too much lag, very noticeable. And battery life was also worse, so I returned to stock.
I guess Verizon debloated hybrid ROM (or something like that can't remember exactly) would be good variant for you to go if you decide upgrading to nougat. I personally tried it hoping I would get 6 hrs SOT but got only very small positive difference in terms of battery life - "android system" is always on top positions in battery stats.
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Going by iQOO track record do not expect any development or custom roms in future. It would be good for 2 years then you'll have update to new phone. Do not expect any development. Like LOS, Even simple bootloader unlock and root will not be possible.
This is actually true for almost all Android phones these days. I want able to use my S9+ Street 2 years because it's battery decayed pretty fast. My wife's phone's displayed died. She had the S9 and we bought both phones together.
Updated and custom ROMs aren't that great these days because of plethora of phones and great devs of this forum also can't keep up with whether to fix issues with current build or to push next update build.
I used to own an HTC Wildfire S and its devs were pretty mind blowing. It used to have great ROMs which were much faster than stock. But these days stock ROMs are also good enough if you disable some bloatware and irrelevant system apps.
I have disabled some system apps using adb and am not facing any kind of adware notifications and the phone is smooth as ever.
I never even tried to root my S9+ also since I never found any good reason to lose Knox and DRM capabilities just for a little bit faster but still bugged ROM since I had the Exynos version.
With stock I prefer the peace of mind.
I've shared all my thoughts with you on this, now choice is yours.
Quite right. And will there be something significant better then screen 120hz, 12gb ufs 3.1, incredible fast charging, 120 watt 18 minutes fully charged, exceptional good battery management, at least 36hrs with full use of phones possibilities. Processor SD 888, good for the next 4 years I think.
With the increasing complexity of hardware, various chips (additional display chip in Iqoo 7), multiple cameras, etc. it will be difficult for custom rom devs to keep up with future of android. We will have to learn to live with Stock ROMs.
I suggest to keep full backup of each stock ROM before upgrade so that you have option to roll back incase you dont like performance/features of upgraded ROM.
Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
The device's heating issue is a major concern. if a gaming phone gets toasted frequently it won't last longer
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Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
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I agree but I change my device every 6 to 8 month so no worries and I get try new features comes with an update
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Always have an external storage or Hardisk to save your files or if you loose your device you might miss a lot of data. I always back my data and keep my device free