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I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
Also it could be radio and what most likely is the signal strength. As weaker the signal, as more power required to compensate.
WAAAAHHHH! Don't buy a smart phone then.
I get a full days use. About 2 hours of music playing, signed into an IM client and do some msg and talking and still have 75% at the end of the day.
My guess that its your rom, but i am betting you didn't change the setting in HTC's task manager.
Go to Settings > system > Task manager and change the close action button actually close the buttom. The default action for WM task manager and HTC task manager is to minimize or hide the apps.
So let's say i open WMPlayer, Google Maps, Contacts, Text, Microsoft word. I hit the X, but if i don't change that setting, when i press the X, those programs are still running consuming battery and memory.
Try making sure no unneeded tasks are running and update your radio to 1.14.25.05, and Da_G's 6.5 rom and lets see how ya do next week.
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Yo PwnCakes193..
I feel yur agony.. I used to experience shi tty battery life too.. My raphael can only sustained for like 5 hours.. without battery draining applications like music player even running..
However, Things took a turn when i flashed my raphael to the following rom and radio:
ROM Version: ROMeOS v1.95.4 WWE
Radio: 1.12.25.19 (With matching rilphone version)
It is so much better now !! I have calls and sms coming in while Garmin GPS is running for like an hour with battery dropping only 15% from 100% to 75%... !! And i **** u not.. And by the way.. my raphael's been with me for like 5 months now.. I'm loving it more each day..
Good luck and hav fun!
Too advanced for you?
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
I echo what's been said in above posts and would add as a suggestion only to try the new htc rom with the 1.14.xx radio both are the latest from htc. Boring I know, but very stable. Don't throw your device away without trying it. The custom roms can be frustrating as they can be unstable at times, but very fun to tweak and experiment with.It sounds like yourmore a user who wants stability over the rest. Go to htc site and search for latest rom, try that 1.14 radio and report back.
I use a 1800 mAh battery in my pro and I always charge everynight. Not a big deal. I also have prolly less than the 75% you reported at the same time, another not a big deal. "it is what it is" You can adapt or you can get a diff phone. I have an LG dumb phone my work supplies me for calls only, that battery lasts 2 weeks . LOL!!
wow, harsh words.
It's not like this complaint is an isolated one. There are other forums out there(AT&T, and Howard) that have the same observations about battery life. To say that it is a portable pc and that someone should be happy with 6-8 hours of battery life is pretty silly too. It is a smartphone, like the blackberry, like the treo, like the blackberry. And when people complained about the battery life of the Iphone, it's not like everyone said, deal with it. Apple released another firmware to try and remedy this. Blackberrys seem to go for a couple if not more days without charging with 3G, push email etc running, so why would this not be expected from the Fuze?
I own both the Tilt and the Fuze and find I can squeeze out about 3 days with push email, a bluetooth headset, about an hour or two a day of listening to music through the headset and 3G enabled. The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the tilt, so wouldn't it be logical to think i should be able to do the same with this product? I have flashed several different roms and radios(with the rilphone.dll) and right now cannot get past 8 hours of usage on it. I thought it was the radio but I have tested it without a sim in it and get the same results. So either the battery is faulty, or it just stinks.
I am going through troubleshooting it right now, and based on some helpful hints on other forums, am trying to discharge the battery fully in hopes that it resets the battery guage.
I think helpful posts, like those that say try a new radio/rom are good ways to respond. Saying "go get an Iphone" or "this is a ppc, deal with the battery" are not helpful to people who search the forums for solutions.
Just my 2(maybe a lot more) cents
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
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Really? Listen a**hole, I know what I'm dealing with. I'm running the 21210 build of 6.5 that I cooked in Da_G's Kitchen with the .20M1 radio AND RIL. Yes, I know i'm being picky, but a phone should last at least a little while, no matter what. I get a full day charge, but just texting and no calling, on EDGE, I should easily be down to 85% in 24 hours. I know it's a small PC, but that is no excuse. I am a mainstream tech savvy person, and I mod/hack everything I own, use everything to it's full potential. I don't want an iPhone because its an overhyped and, in my opinion, horrible phone. I was never trying to look cool when I bought this phone. I even helped a few members out here when they bricked their phones, and I taught a few how to cook ROMs!
Next time think before you post, you troll.
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I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
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I have tried almost all the ROMs, my favorite being At0mAng's, but he's gone now . I'm cooking my own 6.5 ROMs now
The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the Tilt? I guess according to the order that ATT purchased their HTC phones, but probably not according to HTC...
The HTC Touch Pro is the successor of the Diamond. Just because ATT replaced the Tilt with the Fuze does not mean its the successor. Tmobile is calling the TP2 the "Wing 2" in America, does that mean it's the successor to the wing?? NO. If anything most hardcore HTC follower will agree the TP2 is the successor to the Tilt (kinda obvious isn't it?).
Regardless of what order they came in, or what phone its supposed to replace, the Fuze has a bigger processor, twice as much ram, and twice as high resolution LCD. Its hard to compare the 2 on battery life. My Tilt gets a faster GPS lock, and the battery lasts way longer, than the Fuze. Does that mean its better? NO.
If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
If you have an honest question where you need help then please ask, and im sure someone will help you get MUCH better battery life! All i really meant by what i was saying before i got sidetracked, is that if you don't like your HTC products, or it doesn't fit your lifestyle like you thought it would, then take it back, and get something else. Just don't come into a HTC forum, and start badmouthing products, because that will get you nowhere, and you should have been expecting the answer you got.
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
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Where'd you get badass? I just said I hacked/modded a lot of the things I owned.... I haven't gotten into the processing specs and all that stuff yet...
And since when does being a troll have to do with what time you joined? I have yet to troll on this forum, I have either asked questions, or have helped people who are having trouble....
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I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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I hear that, I can relate as I've had my s**t jumped a few times on this forum as well and I always learned from it. I'm not an expert at all and thats the reason I come here to learn about my various wm devices, currently the touch pro. I undestand the issues especially with battery and stability.Except for battery I don't have any complaints that you mention. My RF which I value as a number 1 priority is very good. No dialer issues here either. I also think it would be nice to have perfectly operating devices right out of the box and considering what we pay for these things, it seems we should get better. In my experience all the wm devices I've ever had have had inadequate batteries. It's just the way it is. I did not expect my pro to be any diff. in that regard. I got it anyway and bought a better battery. In the past few weeks I've tried various 6.5 roms with differing results and none were very stable. It's the way it is and I don't really expect it to be better, but I love it anyway. I've used symbian s60 nokia devices and thought some of the e series have outstanding stability and battery life. So I have choices.
My choice is to continue learning and I'll get extended batteries when I think I need it. When I get tired of the wm BS I'll go back to E series for awhile.
For anyone who is calling themselves proficient in wm and the various ins and outs of flashing and obviously has some experience apparently, I find it kinda strange that they would be surprised by the battery life. Stability can be had from diff rom combos. But bad battery life is a given with wm. we get used to it and move on or go check out e series. It also rocks! Lotsa choices.
Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
wow, boys, calm down. *****ing at each other is oh so productive. maybe we could try to HELP each other out and be friends! just a thought...
i'm getting maybe 12 hours on a full charge running the leaked att stock rom and it's really starting to tick me off. i bought a portable power pack that can give me a full charge on its full charge (Xpal harry II) but i want to be able to get AT LEAST a full day without having to pop it onto a usb or wall charger for 20 minutes. im thinknig of flashing to da_g's or natf's 6.1 roms witihn the next couple weeks hoping that they'd be able to improve my battery life. i'm pretty happy with the radio and i'm in boston so no major signal issues there. maybe it's just a sh*tty rom draining my battery?
and now that i wasted 10 minutes reading this thread, i'm giong to go back to studying for finals. joy.
EDIT: I installed the fuzeberry theme a week or two ago and that's caused a TF3D problem (see my thread here about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511760) but is there any chance that THIS is also killing my battery? hate the att manila but i might have to revert back if it gets me more hours :\
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
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****, sorry mate I can't remember now, I changed a setting in the registry and installed a keyboardincrease cab? Maybe others on here will be able to point you in the right direction. I am a noob at this type of stuff really and just follow instructions that members on here suggest - once the problems fixed I forget about it.
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try using a 6.5 ROM I cooked now, it's doing fairly well, i would Hard-SPL, then try and flash a new radio or ROM, should help you out, turn off 3G, which should help. Also download advanceconfig and turn on the power saving items there.
FWIW, I have never had good results with the gps, but since I flashed the htc 5.05.401.1 with radio: 1.14.25.05 I now get very quick lock times. Also battery is a bit better even tho I'm running shell3.
Am I the only one here that is underwhelmed by this phone?
I received my 64GB version today, did the rooting/recovery stuff, installed some apps (mostly news) and find the phone slow, with shocking battery drain, poor network signal and a purplish hew on display ( gets better if brightness turned up)
It's on stock with 44s Cyanomod software version.
My comparison is with the my previous phones S3,S4,N4,N5 and HTC One M8.
I'm going to initiate a return.Very disappointed.
Well, I came from, have a G3, which I really like. We've gotten 3 OPO's. Battery lasts for several days with moderate use, heavy use for my daughters phone, very nice. We've made no special 'battery setup' to have this several days battery life.
In general, I find the quickness on par with the G3. The phone works well, overall we are pretty happy with them, and two of the three of us mess about with the rooted side of 44s to experimental L ROMS. A few of the L ROMS, though notably more snappy, still are rough, so unless I don't have anything to do, I try and stay away from them... until the oem version comes out.
Display is great and uniform. Networks work just like my G3, consistency and strength, the data/phone side providing I have the correct APN.
I was just checking the OP against my G3 yesterday, after the G3 having sat for a month, being un-touched. My sense of the two remains the same. The G3 is a bit more polished, but the OPO allows for getting into the dirt and playing with it.
Sounds like your initial experience has been unsatisfactory, and the initial 'presentation' of a thing can sure put a cloud over it. Just like meeting a person for the first time, first impressions can make or break it.
Good luck.
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Am I the only one here that is underwhelmed by this phone?
I received my 64GB version today, did the rooting/recovery stuff, installed some apps (mostly news) and find the phone slow, with shocking battery drain, poor network signal and a purplish hew on display ( gets better if brightness turned up)
It's on stock with 44s Cyanomod software version.
My comparison is with the my previous phones S3,S4,N4,N5 and HTC One M8.
I'm going to initiate a return.Very disappointed.
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I hope this is a hardware problem with your phone, and a fluke. I've just ordered today and hope it is better than my Moto X(2).
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I hope this is a hardware problem with your phone, and a fluke. I've just ordered today and hope it is better than my Moto X(2).
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Hopefully for you this is a hardware issue.
I've initiated a return and since this will take some time I've decided to install other ROM's in case it was a ROM issue.
Just installed the Mahdi ROM but Titianium backup restore doesn't want to work.
Time for another ROM.
Will update if another ROM solves the issues I've had.
No luck with this phone.
Installed mahdi, Stock 4.4.4, Pan Android and cDroid.
Another strange issue that I've had with all ROMs is Textsecure and Viber apps not working. I have never had issues with these apps.
Started the RMA.
I'll go back to the N5 and live it's poor battery & only 32GB storage.
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Hopefully for you this is a hardware issue.
I've initiated a return and since this will take some time I've decided to install other ROM's in case it was a ROM issue.
Just installed the Mahdi ROM but Titianium backup restore doesn't want to work.
Time for another ROM.
Will update if another ROM solves the issues I've had.
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I had a problem with TB on Mahdi as well. It would crash spontaneously. I wiped out TB and installed fresh. IIRC it was something like that that cleared up the issues. If I remember I'll let you know.
Agree 100% op. Got mine a few weeks ago from craigslist. Very laggy phone on all ROMs I've tried. Battery life isn't anything to brag about either. Only reason I'm keeping it is because the lollipop ROMs seem good soo far. Definitly not a flagship killer phone though.
You guys probably got bad hardware. I am on the 2nd OPO (broke first by accident), both have been really good. Exactly the same setup on OPO and N5, OPO battery lasts twice as long and there are no lags of any kinds. I actually sold the N5 on Ebay today and bought a 16gb OPO, so I am going to have two
I'm still in love with Skyrocket, but some developers and mantainers stop making new buils because feels like there are just a few Skyrocket users out there.
I think it's just because some of us are waiting for a more stable Lollipop release and better compatibility of xposed. But believe me, Skyrocket only needs a little push, and this is the time; I found a repartition thread for Hercules and same method works for Skyrocket, it means less space limitations and more juice to pull out of Skyrocket.
What do you guys think?
I still have the phone but even with a new battery I don't get much life out of it. Especially compared to my HTC One M7. I still have a real fondness for the Skyrocket. I'm running lollipop on it via the Candy ROM and it runs pretty good . In fact I think it runs much better than it ever did compared to when I had it on stock touchwiz.
I see by looking at file host download counts that over 400 downloads for Lollipop.
So a lot still using,I know some may be repeat downloads where they have gotten bad dl's,but still plenty. Just don't know how many developer's are still rocking the skyrocket.
Hope they keep up the builds there doing now . Lollipop is making my SR faster and longer life on battery.
Just bought one to use as a media streamer for summer.
Mine still get use as Ambio / music players. They are incredible devices, and amazingly enough, still reasonable performers. Not flag-ship worthy anymore, but remarkably close to the middle of the pack for mid-grade devices, and much faster than the low-end crap.
If Samsung hadn't gone nuts on locking (and encrypting) the bootloader for AT&T models, I'd still buy their hardware.
yap my beloved skyrocket is still with me as my daily drive
starting to have some problems with it but not something that a 15$ part cant fix
My husband bought me the LG Optimus G (AT&T) as a gift. Ended up returning it.
I like both versions of the S2 (i727 & i777). My husband used the i727 before upgrading. Mine was the i777.
Parts are cheap and phone is way easy to repair. At the moment I am using the i727 because the i777 needs fixed.
I don't need all the bells and whistles of a fancy phone. I have an S5 but its used by the kids.
Still have my skyrocket. I'm running cm11 but really want a stable lollipop rom. But my phone is about dead. it is so slow and laggy i cant figure out how to fix it. ive switched roms and it still remains frustrating slow.
I got my i727 back in 2012, and it's a great phone. My problem is finding a stable AND secure rom (meaning, consistent updates). My favorite for a while was Slim Roms' "Slim Kat"... but they haven't updated it in over a year I believe. I did find a way to increase app space by partitioning using a custom PIT file (someone shared how on these forums). I would be happy to hear rom suggestions, as I am using T-Mobile in the US currently.
Skyrocket going strong still, even after 3 years.
I bought my skyrocket 3 years ago and I still use it with Stock AT&T touchwiz ROM. Battery is new and gives me half a day backup. I love it and the old 4.1.2 interface seems refreshing after seeing tons of lollipop phones with similarly decked out homescreens and notification bars. The big font, the big icons and the bright colours on this phone (Especially with the AMOLED screen) still feel awesome.
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I still use it with Stock AT&T touchwiz ROM...
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That sounds nice! What service provider do you use? I am currently using T-Mobile, so I had to use a different radio to get it working better. Do you happen to know what radio that stock rom comes with, and if it might work for T-mobile? My phone is seriously throwing a fit right now so I gotta get a new rom on there soon.
*Edit* I just used Odin to return my i727 to stock AT&T rom (ATT JB 4.1.2 I727UCMC1 ..) which can be found here on Vincom's sticky under "
3: STOCK FIRMWARES: ODIN FLASHABLE - FULL/COMPLETE/ STOCK", and it seems to run fine as I use my T-Mobile sim card! Running very smoothly right now. Before the AT&T stock rom was updated (back when I got my phone in 2012), I do not recall it even using the signal correctly when I inserted the T-Mobile sim card, so I opted to use custom roms with short-term joy and a lot of pain and suffering in the long-run. Will let you guys know updates as I continue to use it, because long term is the real test of how a rom handles!
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What service provider do you use? Do you happen to know what radio that stock rom comes with, and if it might work for T-mobile?
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I'm on Airtel in India. And the stock ROM comes with UCMC1 radio and it works pretty okay. The ROM is solid now that I've used it for 3 weeks now. There was one occurrence where the phone rebooted when the battery was low and when it came back on it had factory reset itself (That was a pain to bring back everything update). Other than that ROM has been solid.
As far as signal and data is considered, what I found out which worked better is when I installed xposed framework and installed a mod called Intelli3G. If I change the network mode to WCDMA via UltraCfg I used to get 1 bar signal. But when I used to switch network mode via Intelli3G I get 2-3 bars. I don't know why it is like that, but it works.
Why would anyone still be using this phone? It was a piece of crap. Literally the worst purchase decision I have made in my entire life. Nothing but problems.
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Why would anyone still be using this phone? It was a piece of crap. Literally the worst purchase decision I have made in my entire life. Nothing but problems.
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ymmv but for me it has never failed me in over 3 yrs since ive had it, its still my dd, flashed a ton of roms and apps and still using the original battery.
best purchase ive made
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ymmv but for me it has never failed me in over 3 yrs since ive had it, its still my dd, flashed a ton of roms and apps and still using the original battery.
best purchase ive made
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Still using the original battery after three years? My battery life wasn't very good even when new and was awful after like 6 months getting like 1.5 hours screen on time with like 8 or 9 hours off the charger.
I could see it being a little better with custom ROMs since you wouldn't have to deal with the pathetic TouchWiz but not much and I didn't want to void my warranty and insurance by installing custom ROMs. After the first update it was so slow(even after a factory reset) I missed half my calls because the phone was so slow that the call had went to voicemail before it had registered my swipe to answer.
The build quality sucked too. The phone was creaky and had several gaps between parts. The back cover didn't sit flush with the back of the phone even after replacing the back cover which I did 3 or 4 times during the two years I used the phone because of how easily it scratched and worn out.
It also had issues every few months were it would get stuck in boot loops.
After using that piece of crap for two years I vowed to never get another Samsung phone unless serious changes were made by Samsung.
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Still using the original battery after three years? My battery life wasn't very good even when new and was awful after like 6 months getting like 1.5 hours screen on time with like 8 or 9 hours off the charger.
I could see it being a little better with custom ROMs since you wouldn't have to deal with the pathetic TouchWiz but not much and I didn't want to void my warranty and insurance by installing custom ROMs. After the first update it was so slow(even after a factory reset) I missed half my calls because the phone was so slow that the call had went to voicemail before it had registered my swipe to answer.
The build quality sucked too. The phone was creaky and had several gaps between parts. The back cover didn't sit flush with the back of the phone even after replacing the back cover which I did 3 or 4 times during the two years I used the phone because of how easily it scratched and worn out.
It also had issues every few months were it would get stuck in boot loops.
After using that piece of crap for two years I vowed to never get another Samsung phone unless serious changes were made by Samsung.
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I have two - my wife and I bought them the same day - and the only issue I have had so far is the power button on the black one going out after 2.5 years. (One of the solder techs at my work replaced it for me.) Otherwise, both have been fantastic devices. They don't creak, the backs go on perfectly, and they still function quite well - even if they are fairly slow compared to my M8. Even the TouchWiz poo that shipped on them was functional - I just prefer CM.
I think you got a lemon.
even though i got mine new i also bought 2 used ones for family members, all 3 are still working great
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really digging on Sammy anymore. After having this phone I will never go back to a phone without front firing speakers and a "selfie" flash. I don't give two figs about Moto mods but give me a "refresh" of this phone with updated specs and I'm all in! Otherwise GoodbyeMoto.
unitz0mbie said:
after having this phone since release i gotta say i was not disappointed, specially since we have a great community to give us the features that lenovo doesn't give us , thank you all very much
i will be moving to a galaxy s8+
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Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
acejavelin said:
Not really sure why you're disappointed with the X, except battery life...
Hope you enjoy your S8+ at 2-3 times the price.
At this time my next phone is unknown...
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Very happy with it, it'll last me another year or two at least If I keep charging up to 90% to help with the long run, but I would have to say my next phone definitely would have front facing speakers and has a big screen, which the newer phones are having bigger screens so that's an easy mark to pass. The front facing speakers though, that's a dying breed now a days because of the new bezeless design of newer flagships.
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I am waiting to see what the Nokia 9 spec are rumoured front facing stereo speakers have a nice big screen ?
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For me it definitely won't be another motorola/lenovo phone.
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
I'll probably go over to lg g5, xiaomi mi6 ot oneplus 3t whichever gets cheaper
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I switched to an OnePlus 3T over a month ago and I couldn't be happier. It has really long battery life(6 to 9 hours Screen on time), depending if you are on WiFi or LTE/3G. The performance is the awesome. No Ram management issues (like the Galaxy Phones), everything is smooth and opens instantly. It's the first Android device in 7 years, since I'm using this OS, where my Device isn't modified, cause Oxygen OS is the stock Rom, which I would flash as a Custom ROM. You could modify the Screen density, you have gestures, network traffic monitor, battery percent, no bloatware...(except the gapps)...
The only things I could complain about is the camera in low light and front facing speakers would be nice. Otherwise if someone wants to buy a new phone: get the OP3T.
I recommend the phone to someone who isn't a nerd like me and had the S7 before. He had awful battery life on the S7 and the phone wasn't really faster then the MXP. He had nothing to complain after the switch. He hadn't called me once. I called and asked him what battery life he get's and he told me that his battery lasts 2 to 3 days, without charging.
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It is just a damn shame the OP3T is GSM only, for those of us in the US. I get it, though; it's an international device and the CDMA market is too small globally to be worth changing the whole design over. Other than that, it seems like as close to a perfect phone as you'll find in today's compromised market.
My next will be Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge or S8+. This probably won't happen until around Black Friday. I'm really fond of my Moto X but miss Touch Wiz.
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
Feahnor said:
I will try to go to iPhone. I'm really disappointed in Android and in Lenovo.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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Being disappointed in Lenovo is one thing. But in Android in general...a google phone is the only way to go to get consistent updates. Otherwise, there is no guarantees with any OEM. Nearly every OEM out there has pretty much pulls this same stuff. Typically devices within 12 months of release are updated quickly (relatively) and thereafter, the newest phones become priority. By 24 months support is non-existent.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
Suggestions?
I agree with the 3T if your on GSM get it I've also switched and man was it worth it I even relocked my bootloader and stayed on stock it's that good I get 4 or 5 hours SOT when I'm at work and I got terrible service there and don't even need to charge midday I'll have 15% before I plug in when I hit the bed when I'm not at work I'll get 2 days with 7 hr SOT it's a beast hands down no root or mods
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I want the following:
1. Unlocked bootloader.
2. Works on Verizon.
3. uSDcard
4. Removable battery.
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Only 3 current phones fit 3 of 4 of these requirements... All are LG, the G5, V10, and V20... But the LG G5 is the ONLY device available that fits all these requirements since it has an unofficial bootloader unlock, the others do not have an unlockable bootloader.
Not much of a choice in my book...
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Then I say go for the iPhone. My general opinion is that Android was partially designed with the idea of customizing the user experience.
As far as being a secure OS, Android itself is secure. With security updates being provided regularly now, it is more so. Honestly, a Google phone, aka Pixel, will get timely updates, doesn't require mods to be usable, and has the option to customize should you choose to do so. And not to mention no proprietary software causing security issues (here's looking at you LG).
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I just don't like android anymore (and google phones don't work for me). Every OEM builds its propietary implementation of everything, no one want to "join" forces so they can make android a good, stable, securo and safe OS.
I'm tired of that. I just want something that works, that is built for the user (and not built so the user has to work to make things work).
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Apple is doing its proprietary implementation of everything too, it's even worse than android devices.
And why having each OEM making their UX for android make it unsecure, unstable and unsafe ?
User having to work to make things work ? isn't your phone working as the OEM intended it to be ? you bought your phone not knowing what it can or can't do ? I wont buy a phone that can't have a specific feature that i need and then complain that i have to implement it by myself
Your arguments to explain why you're moving to IOS are flimsy.
You can be bored of android, or wanting to try IOS, but man android unsafe, unsecure or unstable ? custom roms can be unstable, but it's not the OEM fault.
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Yep. This is the reason why I have given in on the removable battery option, hence this phone. I'm not on a CDMA network now, but I want the option to switch should I so choose.
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I gave up on CDMA and Verizon in general about 4 years ago with a Nexus 4... I've bounced between a few providers since then, will never go back to Verizon. I pay $36 per month per line for unlimited calls and texts, and 8GB of unthrottled AT&T LTE data per line. I'll deal with marginal service in a few rural areas I rarely go as a trade-off.
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Going by iQOO track record do not expect any development or custom roms in future. It would be good for 2 years then you'll have update to new phone. Do not expect any development. Like LOS, Even simple bootloader unlock and root will not be possible.
This is actually true for almost all Android phones these days. I want able to use my S9+ Street 2 years because it's battery decayed pretty fast. My wife's phone's displayed died. She had the S9 and we bought both phones together.
Updated and custom ROMs aren't that great these days because of plethora of phones and great devs of this forum also can't keep up with whether to fix issues with current build or to push next update build.
I used to own an HTC Wildfire S and its devs were pretty mind blowing. It used to have great ROMs which were much faster than stock. But these days stock ROMs are also good enough if you disable some bloatware and irrelevant system apps.
I have disabled some system apps using adb and am not facing any kind of adware notifications and the phone is smooth as ever.
I never even tried to root my S9+ also since I never found any good reason to lose Knox and DRM capabilities just for a little bit faster but still bugged ROM since I had the Exynos version.
With stock I prefer the peace of mind.
I've shared all my thoughts with you on this, now choice is yours.
Quite right. And will there be something significant better then screen 120hz, 12gb ufs 3.1, incredible fast charging, 120 watt 18 minutes fully charged, exceptional good battery management, at least 36hrs with full use of phones possibilities. Processor SD 888, good for the next 4 years I think.
With the increasing complexity of hardware, various chips (additional display chip in Iqoo 7), multiple cameras, etc. it will be difficult for custom rom devs to keep up with future of android. We will have to learn to live with Stock ROMs.
I suggest to keep full backup of each stock ROM before upgrade so that you have option to roll back incase you dont like performance/features of upgraded ROM.
Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
The device's heating issue is a major concern. if a gaming phone gets toasted frequently it won't last longer
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Every android phone will have a life span of 2 years then it will slow down with software updates. My suggestion is to update your phone only if your device has some serious bugs and the update will fix it or ignore the annoying update pop-ups. Your device will last longer. This is from my personal experience
It's also important to protect the device from external fall damages I recommend using good quality protective gears from good brands or if you drop your phone and get it fixed it will be never good as a new one. I use a screen and body protector from {Mod edit: Please no commercial advertisement}.
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I agree but I change my device every 6 to 8 month so no worries and I get try new features comes with an update
Lala🇧🇩 said:
We all know there's no custom rom support for iqoo 7. Should I still buy this phone for long term use?
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Always have an external storage or Hardisk to save your files or if you loose your device you might miss a lot of data. I always back my data and keep my device free