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Hi everyone/anyone,
I can't post in the developer sections so I'd like to comment here then.
Have used IColdS on my Desire S for about 6 months as a work phone with heavy email and talk usage. The biggest pain was email not showing the email body and then not responding - alot. Every now and again other apps stop responding.
Anyway, I came back here and tried Jellytime as a random pick. Worked great after a week of use. Even USB tethering and Wifi hotspot works. Apart from the 5mp camera photo issue and Bluetooth not working at least email and general stability is good. The 2 issues are known and being worked on. Great upgrade I think and extended the life of the old girl a little longer.
Axel
How is battery life on this ROM? I am currently on Pacman 19.3, but have issues with 3G battery draining. So I only use 2G of wifi.
Otherwise, I like the Pacman ROM a lot. Now and then a spontaneous reboot when the phone is idle, but until now, it hasn't disturbed me.
zertyx said:
How is battery life on this ROM? I am currently on Pacman 19.3, but have issues with 3G battery draining. So I only use 2G of wifi.
Otherwise, I like the Pacman ROM a lot. Now and then a spontaneous reboot when the phone is idle, but until now, it hasn't disturbed me.
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I must say I haven't run on battery alone for a whole day yet. At my work desk it's always docked and charging. This weekend I'll be running off the battery so will report back how it goes.
Axel
axelmasok said:
I must say I haven't run on battery alone for a whole day yet. At my work desk it's always docked and charging. This weekend I'll be running off the battery so will report back how it goes.
Axel
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Phone was about 70 odd % Friday night. It was 2% Monday morning after only 2-3 phone calls over the weekend with no charging. My un-scientific conclusion would be it's battery life is worse than IceColdSandwich. Bothers me none. I prefer the stability (so far).
And is this with 3G activated or do you use WiFi all weekend? At home my battery lasts long, but when I leave and put 3G on, it's terrible. 2G is ok.
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3g, data and WiFi all on. All weekend. I live in an area that requires 3g or I lose reception.
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axelmasok said:
Hi everyone/anyone,
I can't post in the developer sections so I'd like to comment here then.
Have used IColdS on my Desire S for about 6 months as a work phone with heavy email and talk usage. The biggest pain was email not showing the email body and then not responding - alot. Every now and again other apps stop responding.
Anyway, I came back here and tried Jellytime as a random pick. Worked great after a week of use. Even USB tethering and Wifi hotspot works. Apart from the 5mp camera photo issue and Bluetooth not working at least email and general stability is good. The 2 issues are known and being worked on. Great upgrade I think and extended the life of the old girl a little longer.
Axel
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Some of the custom rom builds like the one build by @blindndumb (jelly time 4.2.1) has a new release every third day. Is it possible to upgrade to latest release over the air if u have previous release on the device?
I'm not sure. I would probably update from recovery myself.
Cheers
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The battery life in JellyTime is great.
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The battery life in JellyTime is great.
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Yes I see that there is a new version as of a few days ago. I'll update to it this weekend and hopefully enjoy Bluetooth and better battery life. As it stands with JellyTime R.4.0 the battery lasts me 7:30am to about 7pm before the battery goes into red < 20%. Can't complain but it used to be better.
Ah also, some users reporting their phone locks up requiring the battery to be removed. This has happened to me about 4 times. I'm pretty sure every time it happened when I rebooted or powered off/on the Desire S. I'm not keen on removing the battery but waiting for 10min or so it wouldn't reboot itself. Holding down all the buttons didn't work either. I might try connecting via adb next time it happens.
I just changed to Jellytime from Icecold sandwich. I'm having a problem with AOSP roms. Taking screenshot in some screen seems impossible unlike sense roms where u just need to push POWER +HOME to take screenshots. on AOSP roms, i cant take screenshots of a zoomed pic,zoomed webpage etc. anyone knws any app that can assign keys to take screenshots?
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I just changed to Jellytime from Icecold sandwich. I'm having a problem with AOSP roms. Taking screenshot in some screen seems impossible unlike sense roms where u just need to push POWER +HOME to take screenshots. on AOSP roms, i cant take screenshots of a zoomed pic,zoomed webpage etc. anyone knws any app that can assign keys to take screenshots?
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I just tried it then with JellyTime and it works here bud.
Held down volume button and then held down power button until the screen shot captured. Worked fine.
I have also had the one earphone side only issue. Only when I have answered the call and then plug the earphones in. I work around that by selecting loudspeaker on then off. Then I can hear audio in both earbuds.
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axelmasok said:
I just tried it then with JellyTime and it works here bud.
Held down volume button and then held down power button until the screen shot captured. Worked fine.
I have also had the one earphone side only issue. Only when I have answered the call and then plug the earphones in. I work around that by selecting loudspeaker on then off. Then I can hear audio in both earbuds.
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Worked great!!!! Thanks buddy!
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Jellybean ASOP Feedback
as other users i don't have the rights to write on the dev threat to report issues and experiences, then lest do it here.
Upgraded from Saga to ASOP jellybean a week ago, the process pretty strain forward and no issues.
Bugs I've found so far:
- The battery drains very quick (less than 24h on normal use), despite of the settings on not altered from default ones.
- The wifi and phone signal meter it's showing very low values, but no issues or loss of signal at all, seems more like a signal meter calibration.
- The proximity sensor when on call in progress is not working, i mean, display doesn't turn off and the ear can mess up with commands on the phone screen.
-Time to time background apps (google now, google +, swift keys) crashing and restarting, no loss of data noticed.
-Some random problems when shooting videos.
In general the ROM is very responsive, a big improvement from ICS, and can be used for a daily basis, still need to be improved but stable enough to adopt it.
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Hi,
I can't write to dev section, so here's my problems with JellyTime. I can't adjust screen lights, buttons change but there is no diffrence. I have MDDI panel, so it might be related to it. Thanks again to pointing it out. Battery drains a little bit faster than I expected, but it's generally really good and stable ROM.
ROM: JellyTime R6.1 - Saga Edition
aliegm said:
as other users i don't have the rights to write on the dev threat to report issues and experiences, then lest do it here.
Upgraded from Saga to ASOP jellybean a week ago, the process pretty strain forward and no issues.
Bugs I've found so far:
- The battery drains very quick (less than 24h on normal use), despite of the settings on not altered from default ones.
- The wifi and phone signal meter it's showing very low values, but no issues or loss of signal at all, seems more like a signal meter calibration.
- The proximity sensor when on call in progress is not working, i mean, display doesn't turn off and the ear can mess up with commands on the phone screen.
-Time to time background apps (google now, google +, swift keys) crashing and restarting, no loss of data noticed.
-Some random problems when shooting videos.
In general the ROM is very responsive, a big improvement from ICS, and can be used for a daily basis, still need to be improved but stable enough to adopt it.
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I did a complete wipe/format of everything before install of 6.1.
- Battery drain seems normal to me coming from ICS
- Wifi and Network levels look and behave normally for me
- The proximity weirdness was apparent to me and solved after installing the Sweep2Wake app and disabling.
- I get no crashing of any apps. None since moving to Jellytime 4.x and now 6.1. I don't have any games. Just news/weather/email/web apps.
- I must admit I don't film videos. The camera and video control is so slow and clumsy I don't bother.
Sounds like your issues all relate to something local with your phone IMO.
Hemmodeli said:
Hi,
I can't write to dev section, so here's my problems with JellyTime. I can't adjust screen lights, buttons change but there is no diffrence. I have MDDI panel, so it might be related to it. Thanks again to pointing it out. Battery drains a little bit faster than I expected, but it's generally really good and stable ROM.
ROM: JellyTime R6.1 - Saga Edition
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I'm not sure what you mean. The backlight/LCD brightness? Works fine for everyone else. If you have the Sony LCD then your in another boat altogether and yes I'm pretty sure changing brightness doesn't work which will make your battery life interesting. eBay out your phone and buy find another one there if your a fan of the Desire. Otherwise upgrade to another model.
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
The sound of the speaker is average! It's a hardware thing, no software update can change it.. If you want some boost, you will need to root it and install a sound mod like Viper4android...
No wifi signal dropouts here. Whaatttttt??? The screen on this beast is a real BEAUT!
The camera is pretty good and can manage decent shots.
gino_76ph said:
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
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Never had wifi problem, speaker is easily fixed and they addressed it in 4.4.2, my screen is perfect, and my camera is perfect.
This nice man made a volume boost mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
and this nice man made a camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
gino_76ph said:
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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Rooting and stuff is not technical at all, it requires little to no knowledge. Just read the guide threads..
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
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Hi,
You can unroot and go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
As for viruses and bugs, it's not the root that can cause that but more what you will do after rooting your device... There is no bug, at least no more than a non rooted device, with only rooting your device. It's only if you modify some files system, flash something not stable, or the wrong file and so on. If you install a "crappy" or cracked app with root access (and allow it without know what it does), yes maybe you can encounter some bugs or viruses. It's on the user side...
I have not rooted my phone and it's perfect, i have no complaints whatsoever. I keep refraining myself from rooting tho because of gravitybox, my geeky side keeps telling me to root but i don't right now because i don't need it, but i will definitely do it after a year or something (knowing myself).
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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When using Fastboot and ADB its commands so there is no chance of bugs or viruses.modding is what XDA is all about.
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I could maybe try rooting my device one day. But until then i'm happy with normal updates.
I have been reading about the "fiasco" of 4.4.1 and i just think that Google sometimes don't listen to end-user complaints too quickly and they would rather sit back and wait till the complaints are a mountain high (with the same issues attached to it) until they act.
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Hi,
Here: [PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos...
ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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I have been hearing somewhat conflicting comments that the 4.4.2 camera still has more space for improvements. It can sometimes bring oversaturatedness, greyness, haziness and still weak in the low-light department.
Another issue i heard is the battery seems still not convincingly and dramatically improved from the last time. 3G & 4G signal seems also not perfect. What i mean is if the phone comes from a 3G to a 4G area the phone either reboots itself, turns itself off or would take time to "reconfigure" its software to know that its in a strong 4G signal. Am i making sense?
Is there any truth to this?
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Is there any truth to this?
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Not with respect to my phone.
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
5Hi,
In my opinion stop the "I heard someone" or "some are saying" and jump the train...
4.4.2 is way better than 4.4/4.4.1 (and yes I ran stock rom in the past ).
About Android usage in battery stats is already discussed here, I mean in this Q&A forum, I have not it, like almost 90% (or more) users, it's on the user side (whatever some other users tends to think). It can happen on 4.4/4.4.1 too... but since a minority of users are still on this version and the updates have been quick, nobody still speak about it.
Wi-Fi crashes, phone turn OFF by itself (on full stock?) it's also a very large minority on stock (I would say never), it could be due to the user too, no?
High battery drain in idle-> mostly user side (rogue app for example). Ans so on...
Don't mixe what your read about some problems between stock rom and custom rom/kernel/mods...., in my opinion (and I'm not alone) all you read is nothing, biased feedback due to some users who don't know how use their phones, install xx and xy apps and after that they are complaining about battery life, bugs and so on
Battery heat (or CPU?), what is heat for you or for the guy who said that? I any case there is thermal throttle to prevent any dammage and you are running a quadcore CPU (with a max CPU freq at 2,26 GHz ) enclosed without thermal cooling so in certain circumstances expect some heat...
If you are not still convinced, hum... don't do anything
Test and see by yourself, sometimes it will be better than read something here and there... . I'm not saying that you are "reported" is false but nonestly it's mostly ******, at least like I said it's not about 4.4.2 itself but user side.
That being said you seem a user easily influenced by some things read or heard here and there, maybe you'll be more influenced by the replies in your thread
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Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
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I have not experienced any of these issues when I was on stock for a week. I suggest you go buy the nexus 5 and return it if you don't like it then try the G2 if you really want amazing battery life. But I assure you, once you experience Nexus, you'll go back to Nexus.
Well, for one thing i had a Nexus 4 and i had to return/sell it because of so many issues. And those same issues have again cropped-up in the stock Nexus 5 4.4/4.4.1/4.4.2. Sounds familiar?
Yes it's true it "could be" a minority who have the same issues but its STILL a minority and its STILL the same issues. It's either the users fault or the phone itself. Yes it could be malicious/battery-draining apps or a ROM that has some bugs, etc. But in the past 6 months i have not heard of a "minority" of HTC One or Galaxy S3/S4 users that have the same issues. Have you? It does tell you something about how the phone was made and how Google pushes its updates.
I know and i'm well aware that the only thing to do is to actually try one. But what if if i try one, got the same problems, do a factory reset, still same problems, have to return/sell the thing and so on. Its such a hassle. That is why i am looking for answers and reviews/comments here. And i truly appreciate all your insights. I really do.
Call me fuzzy or overly-careful. I'm not looking for a "perfect" Google Nexus phone. I just want a phone (and Android phone as such) that works.
Again, as i said i'm not overly worried about the camera because a phone camera can & will never replace a proper one.My other concern is the 4.4.2 battery life. My Nexus 4's battery life was near atrocious. Could not tell you how long (or short) it's battery life is thats is why i got rid of it. But if a number of issues come up with the same battery life issue and battery getting warmer then am i to worry?
My typical day is get up at 6AM, remove the charger on my phone (if it was charged overnight), turn it off or turn the wifi off whilst i have my shower, get on the bus and the train, turn on my mobile data then checking the morning news/weather/notes/Twitter, get on to my work and keep my mobile data (and everything else like wifi, bluetooth, NFC...you know) turned off, turn on my data again for my 30-minute lunch and turn it off when back to my afternoon shift, going back home i listen to some music (a typical journey lasts around 45 minutes) whilst at the same time checking out some tech news on Appy Geek, when i'm at home i turn off my mobile data and connect to my home wifi (kept On till until i wake up again the next morning) whilst in-between supper & shower & bed i check Twiiter again, Instagram, couple of Youtube videos, email, playing a game which would last maybe 30-60 minutes max and that's it. I sleep around 11PM and wake up again around 6AM.
My questions are:
1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
The area where i live, where i travel and my work place hasn't got a strong 4G signal. I have no problems with my home broadband/wifi as i typically have a very fast and stable connection. So...
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Thanks peeps.
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1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
Based on how you use your phone, not really. Unless there's a hardware defect.
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
For me, no. I once tried one and it didn't help at all. But there's no harm in trying.
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
A few weeks ago I did some heavy gaming for an hour and the phone was really warm, but I still got >5hrs SoT at the end of the day before charging again.
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
Yes the battery life is somewhat improved; but what I experienced was that it improves when I stay in the same ROM for some days, and I charge it overnight when the battery is less than 5%.
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
In my opinion (and experience), yes.
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Here's a thread you can analyze: Nexus 5 Battery Results
Hi, I am thinking to flash lineage OS to my oppo R7 plus and I was wondering how good is the battery line in lineage OS as consider to color OS. Battery life is the most imp thing for me in my cell phone. Any body using lineage OS work oppo R7 plus - can your answer me with some figures. I wil like to know some numbers. Like if I am getting 24 hours in color OS, how many hours I will get in lineage OS?
Thanks for any answers.
Hey there i'm on the latest LineageOS build , your mileage may vary but from 100% to 0% in my experience is in 1 day and multiple hours , Screen on time around 7-8 hours. Good luck !
Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
Thanks
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Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
how did you managed to flash lineage os ? please help me
There is tutorial here on the forums. I have not yet flashed it though.
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Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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This blows my mind. What didn't I do right? Didn't I sacrifice enough chickens?
TBH the Bluetooth problem (at least) is well documented, as well as being a massive dealbreaker.
Funnily enough though I don't have an audio stutter problem. But I don't use physically attached headphones.
Are you open to a crash-off, in which we both install the same LOS version and (if necessary) start adding apps until we either see my problems or we don't?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
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This helped me too, thanks. I put an inline meter and it was only drawing 1.x amps but without the meter I can see "rapidly charging" on the lockscreen. Pity there is no battery icon change for Oppo's in LineageOS (14.1).
One more thing, if you're still active... which country are you in? I first put 15.1 on my R7Plusf and right off the bat WiFi didn't work.. even after reboot etc.
I flashed 14.1 and every single thing works perfectly so far!
https://twitter.com/sarvikas/status/955753890770665472
Get it here :
https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/betalabs
Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
I have been battering it since installing and i cant make it cough, splutter or hiccup, seems all but finished to me rather than a beta.
Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
xterminater07 said:
Do you mind doing a system dump for me? If you need help look up how to do a system dump, but I think you need root and do adb /pull system .
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Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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Not quite. I discovered and reported a rather annoying kernel wakelock that doesn't allow CPU deep sleep for hours, causing battery drain.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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Cool. Bought the phone today, and it's already on 8.1. Hoping Nokia will keep up the pace
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amunarjoh said:
Hi, and thanks for asking. At the moment I am so happy with the barbone Android, that I don't see a reason to root. Maybe at some other point in time...
By the way, it took just a few seconds to enter Nokia beta and download the 8.1.
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I do not have the phone, I have another phone that uses the same sensors as the Nokia 8, that's why I would like to have the system dump so I can see some information regarding cameras. Or if you can link me to the beta download that would be great. I can try to pull files and info from it.
I haven't noticed any crashes on this beta, but the battery life is definitely worse for me.
This device has no root, so pulling the system will be difficult I think.
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Thats weird, everyone else is reporting better battery life.
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
If you set animations to 0.5x you can notice the speed improvement more. Though could be placebo. Before 0.5x was more choppy and 8.1 feels smoother.
8.1 is definitely smoother!
The double tap on recent apps (for fast change) are waaay faster and without a single hiccup for me.
Battery have better stand-by with wifi and auto sync on.
Less than 1% per hour! (almost two hours to drain 1%)
Sent from my Nokia 8!
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That's what beta testing is for. "Works on my computer", you know, is not an acceptable excuse for programmers doing paid work. In some circumstances, on some models, in some regions, with some mobile service providers, etc, etc, you get intermittent weird problems that are impossible to catch during the "closed" beta testing phase. On my phone, there is almost no CPU deep sleep due to some kernel wakelock (I cannot get more details than this without root access, and there's no root for this model). After 3 days on 8.1 beta, I rolled back to 8.0 stable; no wakelock issues whatsoever. Of course, I submitted a comprehensive bug report before rolling back, so hopefully HMD catches and squashes this bug.
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Wow chill your beans, i am fully aware what beta testing is and i certainly do not need preaching to about it by the likes of you.
I was about to report that the standby times on my phone are also reduced but i don't think i'll bother now, you seem to have it all covered with your comprehensive report.
I observe that when i take my phone out of my pocket it automatically unlocks the screen lock( i put my finger on fp sensor when i take my phone out of my pocket). After that i checked if there is a problem with the light sensor, so i covered it so it couldn't get any light but still unlocked the phone when i used my fp to unlock it. Do you guys have that problem? Also to note that when i am making phone calls light sensor works like normal.
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USB tethering also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots.
still no ambient display......
Also the pop up when i want to disable the mobile data is frustrating. Is there a way to disable this?
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bluetooht not working
bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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bluetooht also doesn't seem to be working correctly and causes reboots. when i make calls over carkit
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I'm using Bluetooth with two different car kits, speaker and headphones. No issues at all. Actually it seems to be using less power than on 8.0.
On 8.0 sometimes I couldn't connect to car kit. On 8.1 this issue seems to be gone.
This is the kind of battery life i am getting now after a few days running the beta, i still think standby times are worse but not shockingly so.
Did someone have problems with the wifi or just me? when i connect at my wifi it is so slow but in other devices it goes faster also in pc. i dont know if its just my phone or all motog8plus y reinstalled firmware 3 times and fix it 1 month maybe, then it come back to fail
Also have this slow to connect over my wifi I have an old Xiaomi phone that does it reliably much quicker and without fail.
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Also have this slow to connect over my wifi I have an old Xiaomi phone that does it reliably much quicker and without fail.
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I have the same problem and it took me some weeks to figure it out. The problem is the interference with the Bluetooth!
When I turn off bt, the wifi works properly at a decent speed. If bt is on, the wifi speed is below 1Mbps. I am facing this problem since June, I don't remember if I got a system update.
I don't know if it is a hw or sw bug
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The problem is the interference with the Bluetooth!
When I turn off bt,
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Funny, figured the same thing out today , if bt is off, then WiFi connects much quicker
balu94 said:
I have the same problem and it took me some weeks to figure it out. The problem is the interference with the Bluetooth!
When I turn off bt, the wifi works properly at a decent speed. If bt is on, the wifi speed is below 1Mbps. I am facing this problem since June, I don't remember if I got a system update.
I don't know if it is a hw or sw bug
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I have always off bt , I don't know if I've already gotten used to the fast Internet on my PC and I feel too slow on my cell phone
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Funny, figured the same thing out today , if bt is off, then WiFi connects much quicker
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[update] the problem is still present in Android 10 but now is much much more usable.
balu94 said:
[update] the problem is still present in Android 10 but now is much much more usable.
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Hi, I have the same problem,
that in my case causes a very poor quality of video chats when using the WiFi connection, in fact it seems like Hangout/WA viedo/audio makes a small pause every 3/4 seconds, that is very disappointing.
It seems that Andorid 10 is a bit better, but the "disabling BT" workaround does not work anymore in Android 10 and the the nasty "pause" remains there.
This is my post in the support forum:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/moto-g...ality-Moto-G8-Plus/m-p/5023887?page=4#5173977
There are alto threads about the wifi/BT interaction problems, and it seems very disappointing for me that Motorola has not fixed this base functionality. Not being able to have a decent Videochat thru Wifi in 2020 with modern phone is IMHO unacceptable.
https://forums.lenovo.com/searchpage/tab/posts?fid=2893&q=wifi+problem
Have you found other workorunds, are there any fix/custom ROM withour this issue?
It looks like they are trying only to make me wait for a "never coming" solution , perhaps you can also report in these threads...
Regards
FabianoT said:
Hi, I have the same problem,
that in my case causes a very poor quality of video chats when using the WiFi connection, in fact it seems like Hangout/WA viedo/audio makes a small pause every 3/4 seconds, that is very disappointing.
It seems that Andorid 10 is a bit better, but the "disabling BT" workaround does not work anymore in Android 10 and the the nasty "pause" remains there.
This is my post in the support forum:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/moto-g...ality-Moto-G8-Plus/m-p/5023887?page=4#5173977
There are alto threads about the wifi/BT interaction problems, and it seems very disappointing for me that Motorola has not fixed this base functionality. Not being able to have a decent Videochat thru Wifi in 2020 with modern phone is IMHO unacceptable.
https://forums.lenovo.com/searchpage/tab/posts?fid=2893&q=wifi+problem
Have you found other workorunds, are there any fix/custom ROM withour this issue?
It looks like they are trying only to make me wait for a "never coming" solution , perhaps you can also report in these threads...
Regards
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No news, but with android 10 this issue is negligible for me... I make video calls with wifi with no big problems. I have already posted the problem in lenovo forum ( https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...eed-and-ping-jumps/m-p/4633817?page=2#5104699 )
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No news, but with android 10 this issue is negligible for me... I make video calls with wifi with no big problems. I have already posted the problem in lenovo forum ( https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...eed-and-ping-jumps/m-p/4633817?page=2#5104699 )
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Hi,
But you have BT disabled? Or not? And what about your download speed..is back to normality with both Wifi-BT activated?
Thank you for replying, regards..
FabianoT said:
Hi,
But you have BT disabled? Or not? And what about your download speed..is back to normality with both Wifi-BT activated?
Thank you for replying, regards..
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The problem is still present. With bt ON the speed is 1/3 than with bt OFF. (5Mbps vs 15Mbps)
In any case, at the moment, 5Mbps are sufficient to do what I do with a phone.
balu94 said:
The problem is still present. With bt ON the speed is 1/3 than with bt OFF. (5Mbps vs 15Mbps)
In any case, at the moment, 5Mbps are sufficient to do what I do with a phone.
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Thank you balu94, it is quite interesting that you have no periodic (very regular 2-4 sec) "hiccups" in the video call , I'll try with a new hard-reset (attempted only when Android 9). [it is my father's phone and he needs it, or I think I had it sent back to Amazon when I noticed the problem],
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