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Hello Everyone. I have been searching the forums for an answer to my problem but haven't found any info.
I recently purchased a Inspire 4G online with out realizing that there was no AT&T 4G coverage in my area. I also made a poor assumption that this phone would be backwards compatible to my current 3G service.
My question: Is this phone backwards compatible and I just don't know the proper settings or do I just stick it in a drawer and wait for AT&T to role out 4g in my area sometime in the fall. ( so they are saying )
I would appreciate any help
Thanx
I would assume it's backwards compatible. I just bought the same phone and the 4G in my area is spotty at best. The service icon usually shows 3G, but in some places it goes to H++ or whatever and is super fast. So I'm assuming I am just running regular 'ol 3G on my inspire most of the time.
What settings are you talking about on your phone? I just put my SIM in and it worked... Then I flashed with Cyanogen and it still worked great without changing any settings. If you have modified a bunch of the radio settings, maybe you should do a factory reset.
-Tracy
yes its backward compatible. it has everything from edge (2G) to hsdpa (3.5G)
Fully backwards compatible and you don't need to do anything settings-wise. When HSPA+ rolls out in your area, the phone will grab a signal automatically for you.
All of my internet apps error with a Connection Failure message an I constantly have a H+ over a check mark for my network icon never a 3G.
The check mark indicates that your data connection is not connected.
twoods00 said:
All of my internet apps error with a Connection Failure message an I constantly have a H+ over a check mark for my network icon never a 3G.
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The phone will not show 3G, Only ones I've seen are H+, E, and G. And G had the same download speeds as H+ when I did a speed test.
Wrong..I have saw 3g on my phone before I rooted.
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Thanx everyone for you prompt replies. Stopped by an "autherized AT&T reseller" and was told I needed a 4G SIM card. The rep installed the new card ( at no cost ) and I am back on the net. I had thought that I could simply insert my current SIM from my Capivate and be on my merry way, I was wrong.
Thanx again.
Yeah the owners manual indicates a 3g icon when on 3g too.
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twoods00 said:
Thanx everyone for you prompt replies. Stopped by an "autherized AT&T reseller" and was told I needed a 4G SIM card. The rep installed the new card ( at no cost ) and I am back on the net. I had thought that I could simply insert my current SIM from my Capivate and be on my merry way, I was wrong.
Thanx again.
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That's strange. When I got my Inspire I just swapped my 3g SIM from my Eternity II and was on my merry way.
draggindakota said:
That's strange. When I got my Inspire I just swapped my 3g SIM from my Eternity II and was on my merry way.
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Could be his SIM card just went bad and the timing was a coincidence. SIM cards aren't terribly reliable.
the H icon DOES mean you are on att 3G, they just screwed around with the icons for their devices. go into settings, about, and find the network status and see which you are connected to. it will likely say HSDPA which is att's 3G. even when HSPA+ does come along you will still see the H most likely...
Lol you're wrong that you were wrong. I use the same sim. It just needs to be provisioned for the right access point. This was confirmed by the ATT rep when I activated my phone.
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anyone know how to get 4G back on this? my rom is only showing H when i was on ICS UXCLF3 Base it was showing 4G
thanks! and yes i check the thread it seems the search function no longer shows under thread tools
I'm not too sure if you can. Since this is an AOSP based rom, you will only see 4G if you are in an LTE area. What rom were you on before when you were seeing 4G? If you are in an LTE area, maybe you need change some of your APN settings?
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H is 4G. LTE is something totally different even though it says 4GLTE
ericos123 said:
anyone know how to get 4G back on this? my rom is only showing H when i was on ICS UXCLF3 Base it was showing 4G
thanks! and yes i check the thread it seems the search function no longer shows under thread tools
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Yeah AOSP ROMs just lack the 4G icon, nevertheless it's still 4G.
If you need to confirm for certain, go to Settings > About Phone > Status
When the H icon is up your "Mobile Network Type" should say HSPAP:15 or HSPA+:15 or some such thing, this is 4G (At least on Rogers, it might be slightly different on AT&T, google?)
I've heard this phone runs a different PRL series...55xxx. Anyone pulled it yet? I'd like to get a copy to run an analysis on it.
I'm on 55006
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I'm on 55006
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Same here
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digiblur, if no one can pull it, give me some instructions and I can pull it tomorrow night from my mom's phone
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digiblur, if no one can pull it, give me some instructions and I can pull it tomorrow night from my mom's phone
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I don't have this phone so I am not sure how to do it. You might do some other searches on loading prls with qpst on similar Motorola phones. To pull it is simple if you can get qpst working with it. You just hit read instead of write.
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Looks like it's a bit more intensive. I'll have access to the phone all weekend on a family camping trip. If I can get wifey and mom to watch the kids, I'll dig it out of there
I don't mean to sound overly noobish... I understand what PRLs are, but how could changing them be beneficial? Is there some way to just simply have you phone lock to the tower with highest signal strength?
I live in an apartment where I get next to no sprint signal which drops calls like crazy, if I stand in certain spots in the building I can get it to roam which gives me 3 bars... and calls are clear and never drop... I assume the PRL has something to do with this?
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I don't mean to sound overly noobish... I understand what PRLs are, but how could changing them be beneficial? Is there some way to just simply have you phone lock to the tower with highest signal strength?
I live in an apartment where I get next to no sprint signal which drops calls like crazy, if I stand in certain spots in the building I can get it to roam which gives me 3 bars... and calls are clear and never drop... I assume the PRL has something to do with this?
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With Sprint introducing 800Mhz 1xA for voice, PRLs can be used to search for that signal over 1900Mhz PCS. Also, it can be used to force roaming
jefbal99 said:
With Sprint introducing 800Mhz 1xA for voice, PRLs can be used to search for that signal over 1900Mhz PCS. Also, it can be used to force roaming
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Is this something that can be selected on demand similar to the wifi selections? I remember seeing somewhere on the phone to select a network, but it only has Auto and Sprint.
No, a PRL has to either be pushed/updated by the carrier via OTA or flashed by a user.
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I don't mean to sound overly noobish... I understand what PRLs are, but how could changing them be beneficial? Is there some way to just simply have you phone lock to the tower with highest signal strength?
I live in an apartment where I get next to no sprint signal which drops calls like crazy, if I stand in certain spots in the building I can get it to roam which gives me 3 bars... and calls are clear and never drop... I assume the PRL has something to do with this?
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Try Roam Control have to Google it.
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I second the Roam Control suggestion, have used it for a year and a half now on my Epic....I force into roaming every day in my home office at work. Even then the signal fluctuates some roaming Verizon, but its almost always crappy with Sprint while at work...our building sucks for cell penetration.
wolfie359 said:
I don't mean to sound overly noobish... I understand what PRLs are, but how could changing them be beneficial? Is there some way to just simply have you phone lock to the tower with highest signal strength?
I live in an apartment where I get next to no sprint signal which drops calls like crazy, if I stand in certain spots in the building I can get it to roam which gives me 3 bars... and calls are clear and never drop... I assume the PRL has something to do with this?
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I called and complained about that very same thing and they offered me an Airave for free. Might be worth trying considering they can terminate your service if you roam too much.
http://support.sprint.com/support/device/Sprint/AIRAVE_by_Sprint-dvc1230001prd
Here's a zipped folder with some of Sprint's current LTE PRLs. The xx006 PRLs contain information pertaining to the future LTE developments that are rolling out. Below's the contents of what's in the zip and what they are, to my knowledge these are the ones that allow 3G roaming:
16006: LTE PRL (don't have much information on this one)
24006: CL LTE PRL (recommended)
54006: Advanced World Mode CL LTE PRL (CL and designed for international travel)
56006: LTE PRL (found on demo devices at the stores)
I'm not going to do a write up for how to flash PRLs or pull them from the Photon Q. Mostly because I'm lazy and can't be bothered, and there's plenty of well written tutorials floating around XDA as is.
QPST?
I tried to pull this guy up in QPST as soon as I got it to flash the 1119 PRL, but I wasn't able to get QPST to see the phone. Anyone else had this issue? Or resolve it?
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I tried to pull this guy up in QPST as soon as I got it to flash the 1119 PRL, but I wasn't able to get QPST to see the phone. Anyone else had this issue? Or resolve it?
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Trying to get my PRL updated as well and QPST is not having any of it. I tried similar steps to the previous photon without success, anyone know what needs to be done here?
I have tried many different ways to get a custom PRL on this thing without success. I can get it into dev mode using ##3424# and then I also check developers mode in the Development menu and still can not do it. QPST just does not see it. One thing that does happen with the above steps is that windows tries to install drivers for various motorola stuff. QC interface and the like. I can not locate those drivers anywhere. Anyone?
are you sure it has a qualcomm radio? the galaxy nexus and sgs3 all have VIA chipsets
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are you sure it has a qualcomm radio? the galaxy nexus and sgs3 all have VIA chipsets
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The S3 is qualcomm from what I heard. Thought it was the same as the Evo Lte.
Hope it doesn't have those garbage Via licensed cdma chipset.
On another note, if you do load a different prl on this device, like 12124, let me know if LTE still works.
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US GS3s are Qualcomm. We have a few of the newer QPST build links on our site.
We're able to push/pull from VIA chipsets as well. The Galaxy Nexus was fully flashed to Cricket and that involves more than just a PRL.
I came to this thread looking for a method of obtaining the MSL/SPC for the Photon Q. I am not a Sprint customer.
Hi all,
Was wondering if CM finally fixed the 4G/H+ Icons being backwards.
I don't see the 4G icon for sometime now, just H+ all the time.
I used to get the 4G icon a while ago.
Thanks
Heeter
I don't remember this ever being a problem I've always lived in an lte area as confirmed by Samsung stock ROMs. You sure you know what you are talking about?
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AT&T's "4G" is actually HSPA+ unless it actually says "4G LTE". In fact, it even mentions this in the fine print of their ads.
If you only saw the "4G" icon in a stock rom, you will see the H+ icon in CM because they're both refering to HSPA+.
or your LTE is disabled in Mobile Networks settings,
It happened to me from time to time on CM10, in the Preferred Mode it was on WCDMA Preferred instead of GSM/WCDMA/LTE
Reboots usually fixed it but sometimes changing it yourself and rebooting is better.
Thanks kriev,
Forgot about that setting, got it working again
Heeter
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I just got my One+ and i had notice that I do not have LTE H+ only. My wife's nexus has LTE in the same area where Oneplus does not have it. I Did bunch of research and I was under impression that this phone does support T mobile LTE - was I wrong or the phone is broken?
please help
mojakarykatura said:
I just got my One+ and i had notice that I do not have LTE H+ only. My wife's nexus has LTE in the same area where Oneplus does not have it. I Did bunch of research and I was under impression that this phone does support T mobile LTE - was I wrong or the phone is broken?
please help
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sure it does if when doing your research like I did on mine I see it works on Band 4 which is T-Mobiles band for LTE. I get speeds up to 36dl and 19up with my ONe.
What are your speeds? Does your wifes Nexus show H+ and 3g symbols?
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.android.telnet&hl=en
playya said:
sure it does if when doing your research like I did on mine I see it works on Band 4 which is T-Mobiles band for LTE. I get speeds up to 36dl and 19up with my ONe.
What are your speeds? Does your wifes Nexus show H+ and 3g symbols?
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Nexus shows LTE when my phone shows H+
I used the app that you send the link for and when One+ has H+ on it app tells me that i am on HSPA 42.2 MBS
I will need to install same app on Nexus and check it out on that phone
What symbol do you get on your oneplus one when its on LTE? is it 4G? LTE? H?
thanks
mojakarykatura said:
Nexus shows LTE when my phone shows H+
I used the app that you send the link for and when One+ has H+ on it app tells me that i am on HSPA 42.2 MBS
I will need to install same app on Nexus and check it out on that phone
What symbol do you get on your oneplus one when its on LTE? is it 4G? LTE? H?
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I am sorry I may of had stock rom for like an hour... I think it was 4g symbol but I have a custom rom and it shows LTE. I noticed that some of the same lines in the build.prop for LTE on my nexus was not in here for my OPO.
What state are you in?
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I am sorry I may of had stock rom for like an hour... I think it was 4g symbol but I have a custom rom and it shows LTE. I noticed that some of the same lines in the build.prop for LTE on my nexus was not in here for my OPO.
What state are you in?
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I am in NJ
But I think I got it figured out - You are right it works in LTE - when i had 4G on screen i used the app you send me link for and that app shows LTE as network. So the bottom line is that 4G stands for LTE in stock rom and it is possible that Nexus has a stronger radio than One so in some areas i do not get LTE.
Anyway Thanks a Lot for your help - got a little worried ( Got the phone just yesterday). I think i will keep it stock for a little while before i will root it
The radio performance seems the same for me as my N5, I'm living in NYC.
Do note that "LTE" on a Nexus 5 is displayed as"4G" on the OnePlus One. Ensure that your APN is on T-Mobile 4G LTE IPv6 (fast.t-mobile.com), for some reason when I started my phone it was on MetroPCS instead.
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The radio performance seems the same for me as my N5, I'm living in NYC.
Do note that "LTE" on a Nexus 5 is displayed as"4G" on the OnePlus One. Ensure that your APN is on T-Mobile 4G LTE IPv6 (fast.t-mobile.com), for some reason when I started my phone it was on MetroPCS instead.
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Yeah I had the same issue with it being on MetroPCS. I have since deleted that APN
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I am in NJ
But I think I got it figured out - You are right it works in LTE - when i had 4G on screen i used the app you send me link for and that app shows LTE as network. So the bottom line is that 4G stands for LTE in stock rom and it is possible that Nexus has a stronger radio than One so in some areas i do not get LTE.
Anyway Thanks a Lot for your help - got a little worried ( Got the phone just yesterday). I think i will keep it stock for a little while before i will root it
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nah root it its more fun that way and fyi they just came out with an update to 4.4.4 stock from what I have been reading. I saw this posted in earlier.... I guess you will be getting an update soon.
One suggestion if you plan on rooting and unlocking bootloader I suggest doing it now since it will wipe everything when rooting... There is a method where you wont lose data but it will not unlock your bootloader
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Yeah I had the same issue with it being on MetroPCS. I have since deleted that APN
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nah root it its more fun that way and fyi they just came out with an update to 4.4.4 stock from what I have been reading. I saw this posted in earlier.... I guess you will be getting an update soon.
One suggestion if you plan on rooting and unlocking bootloader I suggest doing it now since it will wipe everything when rooting... There is a method where you wont lose data but it will not unlock your bootloader
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To OP: How old is your SIM card? Have you ever received LTE signal on a previous device? I receive LTE on TMobile 4G perfectly fine, I just wish the "4G" showed up as "LTE" as my Nexus 5 did. I guess I could personally go skin it to say LTE instead but its just cosmetics.
And I completely agree with unlocking the bootloader, even if OP doesn't have any intentions to rooting/flashing, at least do it now so when you do decide to do it then you will be able to back everything up without having your device get wiped.
Edit: OP also go into dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#* then go into phone information -> scroll down -> under set preferred network type: LTE/GSM auto (PRL).
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To OP: How old is your SIM card? Have you ever received LTE signal on a previous device? I receive LTE on TMobile 4G perfectly fine, I just wish the "4G" showed up as "LTE" as my Nexus 5 did. I guess I could personally go skin it to say LTE instead but its just cosmetics.
And I completely agree with unlocking the bootloader, even if OP doesn't have any intentions to rooting/flashing, at least do it now so when you do decide to do it then you will be able to back everything up without having your device get wiped.
Edit: OP also go into dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#* then go into phone information -> scroll down -> under set preferred network type: LTE/GSM auto (PRL).
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Thanks for all the info - changed network to set preferred network type: LTE/GSM
My concern is llosing warranty, every phone i had was rooted - this is just new toy so I am concern about loosing warranty
In your experience what is the best way to unlock/ root - saw few all in one tolls on the forum - any advise
PS: how can Thank to all of you for help?
Found the thanks button - thanked all of you Guys for help
I thought the same thing (coming from a Nexus 5). I was worried that the OnePlus One did not support LTE but it definitely does. For some reason Cyanogen did not include a separate LTE icon as what's found on the Nexus 5 and most other LTE capable phones.
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OuncE718 said:
I thought the same thing (coming from a Nexus 5). I was worried that the OnePlus One did not support LTE but it definitely does. For some reason Cyanogen did not include a separate LTE icon as what's found on the Nexus 5 and most other LTE capable phones.
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For sure its weird how they didn't adopt "LTE" and used "4G" instead. You can always go and change it to "LTE" with some apk hacking. Pretty easy to do.
Thanks for all the info - changed network to set preferred network type: LTE/GSM
My concern is llosing warranty, every phone i had was rooted - this is just new toy so I am concern about loosing warranty
In your experience what is the best way to unlock/ root - saw few all in one tolls on the forum - any advise
PS: how can Thank to all of you for help?
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So does your phone get "4G" now? You can verify in Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Mobile network type -> should be LTE if the top right says "4G"
The best way to unlock/root is to NOT use a toolkit. Yeah a toolkit is easier, but honestly unlocking a bootloader is not hard and the skills you obtain by doing it yourself are important. You won't lose warranty, you can always relock it and use the bit mod and OnePlus will never know. Plus OnePlus encourages the whole custom rom scene since thats why they have a Development forum on their official forums.
Just follow the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632 if you have any problems or questions, just ask here and I'll help (or someone else can)
You can thank us for our help by simply helping others
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For sure its weird how they didn't adopt "LTE" and used "4G" instead. You can always go and change it to "LTE" with some apk hacking. Pretty easy to do.
So does your phone get "4G" now? You can verify in Settings -> About Phone -> Status -> Mobile network type -> should be LTE if the top right says "4G"
The best way to unlock/root is to NOT use a toolkit. Yeah a toolkit is easier, but honestly unlocking a bootloader is not hard and the skills you obtain by doing it yourself are important. You won't lose warranty, you can always relock it and use the bit mod and OnePlus will never know. Plus OnePlus encourages the whole custom rom scene since thats why they have a Development forum on their official forums.
Just follow the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2788632 if you have any problems or questions, just ask here and I'll help (or someone else can)
You can thank us for our help by simply helping others
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I called AT&T to have the IMEI changed over to the OPO since I was on the Nexus5. CyanogenMod doesn't technically come with LTE icon, personally I can careless but it does look nice at top lol. And you're correct on my device under Mobile Network Type it shows LTE but icon on top shows 4G.
4G is LTE
H+ is HSPA+
3G is ... 3G
edge is edge :crying:
The first speed test in my sig is my LTE speeds using my OPO... Pretty typical, maybe a little faster than my old Galaxy Note 2. :good:
how does one change it to the LTE symbol?
I'm just curious. If you know 4G means LTE, whats the difference if it says LTE? Not trying to be an A-hole...just curious.
If you run the CM11 nightlies on the OnePlus One the phone will show LTE in an LTE area. Only the stock CM11S shows LTE as 4G.
I would think that people on xda are more well informed.
Carriers like to change the official terms to make you "buy" into a "technological" leap.
Most of the roms outside North America uses 4G (instead of LTE). This is all about marketing.
HSPA(+) are 3rd generation networks while LTE is the 4th generation.
back in the day:
iPhone = edge speed 2.75G
iPhone 3G = HSPA 3G (7.2) speed
iPhone 4 = HSPA+ 3.5G (carriers in north america tried really hard to change this to 4G)
iPhone 5 = LTE 4G
See this article (how At&t tried to play this game)
search on google as i m not able to post links yet.
"Why Does My iPhone 4S Now Say 4G, Not 3G? Because It Is*"
decane said:
I would think that people on xda are more well informed.
Carriers like to change the official terms to make you "buy" into a "technological" leap.
Most of the roms outside North America uses 4G (instead of LTE). This is all about marketing.
HSPA(+) are 3rd generation networks while LTE is the 4th generation.
back in the day:
iPhone = edge speed 2.75G
iPhone 3G = HSPA 3G (7.2) speed
iPhone 4 = HSPA+ 3.5G (carriers in north america tried really hard to change this to 4G)
iPhone 5 = LTE 4G
See this article (how At&t tried to play this game)
search on google as i m not able to post links yet.
"Why Does My iPhone 4S Now Say 4G, Not 3G? Because It Is*"
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I agree fully with Line 1 - especially here we should do more homework before posting...
my oneplus signal is terrible compared to my n5
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mine is better then g2. Do note that your phone may or may not have the bands your provider has for lte. This you should have checked before you got the phone.
Also delete apn and reboot.
If it works better something went wrong there. If it doesnt check your providers website if setings are all correct.
If they are you might need a new sim/ or lte enabled via your provider.