https://twitter.com/ATT/status/558751047792214016
How soon is really the question..
My question is why no one has uploaded a international 5.0 rom for us. I know a few countries have it
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My question is why no one has uploaded a international 5.0 rom for us. I know a few countries have it
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Because it would be an extremely difficult and time consuming job due to the kernel would need to be made pretty much from scratch
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Good spotting. You posted same time as I did but in the lounge.
Oh well that settles that ?
next week
say these guys
http://recomhub.com/blog/android-5-0-lollipop-update-is-coming-soon-to-lg-g3/
No body knows unless its straight from ATT on certain date or proximity of.
That article say could be next week but they don't know ... The articles a whiiiiillle back said soon and that's been months. So lol when it comes is when it will be here
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Not sure I trust that website but we will see what happens. I'm giving them at least a month
soon ish
shayneflashindaily said:
No body knows unless its straight from ATT on certain date or proximity of.
That article say could be next week but they don't know ... The articles a whiiiiillle back said soon and that's been months. So lol when it comes is when it will be here
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Well i'm going will sooner rather than later as there is a implied "hang on to your hats" rather than the usual "we'll release it when we have confirmed to ourselves that it will meet the needs of the network" type statement.
Yeah me 2 I think next week or 2 weeks the latest. Hoping it gets uploaded to xda as soon as its available also.
I got it !!! I'm kidding haha
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I cant wait. I've tried a couple of the 5.0 ROMs, but nothing works super smoothly yet. I'm excited to hear that stock Lollipop is coming soon. Of course we will need someone to get it and modify it and bump it so that we don't have to flash the stock upgrade which might make rooting and bumping harder. This will also really help the 5.0 ROM developers since they should be able to take the base kernel from AT&T and make their ROMS run even smoother.
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I cant wait. I've tried a couple of the 5.0 ROMs, but nothing works super smoothly yet. I'm excited to hear that stock Lollipop is coming soon. Of course we will need someone to get it and modify it and bump it so that we don't have to flash the stock upgrade which might make rooting and bumping harder. This will also really help the 5.0 ROM developers since they should be able to take the base kernel from AT&T and make their ROMS run even smoother.
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I'm sure cloudyfa will do a lot with it
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shayneflashindaily said:
I got it !!! I'm kidding haha
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i got it before you did.
Lol mmhmm
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https://twitter.com/ATT/status/558751047792214016
How soon is really the question..
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Seems like the answer is finally here: http://recomhub.com/blog/lg-g3-android-5-0-lollipop-update-coming-this-week/
I won't believe it until I screenshot it on my phone.
Great news awesome
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I won't believe it until I screenshot it on my phone.
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Like this ?
I'm not picky, but I hope it's more than 5.0. Android is already on 5.0.2. which fixes a lot of bugs.
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Okay, so first thing first, the kitchen is awesome. I'm surprised no one else has jumped onto it.
Secondly, I know I have to fix up other ROMs to pure awesomeness, but school is buttraping me and I barely have time to do anything that actually requires thinking.
That all being said, I want to launch my own open beta team. I don't have all the time to test everything and fix everything on my own. As part of the beta team, you can test and even send in fixes for the ROM. Sadly I have to depend on others ATM, but school is soon coming to a close and it gets terrible at this time.
Now with the good stuff
This ROM is another port, it's a modified version of Sense 2.1. Came from the Desire HD. Still cooking right now, but I'll be out with it in a few moments (assuming it works; if it doesn't, we try a new ROM. )
It's coming soon, so be patient! And if you'd like to beta test, help, drop hints, or anything, just say so, all help is appreciated
Thanks bro, can't wait for that to drop... Will the pics be compressed in this ROM?
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Okay, so first thing first, the kitchen is awesome. I'm surprised no one else has jumped onto it.
Secondly, I know I have to fix up other ROMs to pure awesomeness, but school is buttraping me and I barely have time to do anything that actually requires thinking.
That all being said, I want to launch my own open beta team. I don't have all the time to test everything and fix everything on my own. As part of the beta team, you can test and even send in fixes for the ROM. Sadly I have to depend on others ATM, but school is soon coming to a close and it gets terrible at this time.
Now with the good stuff
This ROM is another port, it's a modified version of Sense 2.1. Came from the Desire HD. Still cooking right now, but I'll be out with it in a few moments (assuming it works; if it doesn't, we try a new ROM. )
It's coming soon, so be patient! And if you'd like to beta test, help, drop hints, or anything, just say so, all help is appreciated
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hey good luck with it.. i have just ported this myself and it has issues that r kernel related. this rom is uses ext4 make sure u edit ur ramdisk, u need to make init.glacier.rc for ext3 or else it will not boot. camera is really choppy and lacking trackpad wake.. i didnt go much further with testing... so if u need help with anything let me know, ill be happy to do what i can
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Thanks bro, can't wait for that to drop... Will the pics be compressed in this ROM?
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no Mike1986 has them set 100/300/600
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no Mike1986 has them set 100/300/600
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Thanks Bro, and Mike1986 ROCK ON!
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Thanks Bro, and Mike1986 ROCK ON!
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this rom is going to be the same way the the RCMixGlacier Rom is..
I thought 'coming soon' threads weren't allowed?
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this rom is going to be the same way the the RCMixGlacier Rom is..
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it's all good, I like that ROM also... just looking for the MMS to be what I'm looking for. MMS I use at my job as well as personal life
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hey good luck with it.. i have just ported this myself and it has issues that r kernel related. this rom is uses ext4 make sure u edit ur ramdisk, u need to make init.glacier.rc for ext3 or else it will not boot. camera is really choppy and lacking trackpad wake.. i didnt go much further with testing... so if u need help with anything let me know, ill be happy to do what i can
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Dude, I love you. (no homo). But you posted that too late. I flashed it and it didn't boot so I wen't back to my other ROM (just to sit there). I'll try that out, this ROM was incredibly sexy.
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I thought 'coming soon' threads weren't allowed?
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Well it's coming in about an hour, or whenever this finishes uploaded so it's more like an "almost there" thread.
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this rom is going to be the same way the the RCMixGlacier Rom is..
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Maybe even worse, actually.. I'm on my own little #TeamNoob thing here, porting, fixing, and being confused as hell at the same time.
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Maybe even worse, actually.. I'm on my own little #TeamNoob thing here, porting, fixing, and being confused as hell at the same time.
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It's all good, I SUPPORT ALL DEVS! Do your thing, test it, if it's good for you, release it...
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It's all good, I SUPPORT ALL DEVS! Do your thing, test it, if it's good for you, release it...
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Well I can't release it yet :x it doesn't boot.. If I release it, I'd be making your devices a shiny fixable paperweight (although this does make a good paperweight).. I can't remember where i had even seen init.glacier.ro .. the kitchen does most of the work, but getting it to boot is my job.. once it at least boots, I'll release it hopefully it'll be by tonight. After that, I'll head back to RCMixGlacier to fight round two with the camera.
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Well I can't release it yet :x it doesn't boot.. If I release it, I'd be making your devices a shiny fixable paperweight (although this does make a good paperweight).. I can't remember where i had even seen init.glacier.ro .. the kitchen does most of the work, but getting it to boot is my job.. once it at least boots, I'll release it hopefully it'll be by tonight. After that, I'll head back to RCMixGlacier to fight round two with the camera.
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Do what you do my brotha, we are waiting patiently for your ROM to drop correctly
@OP
How reliable have the ports using the kitchen been for you? Do they work well usually?
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@OP
How reliable have the ports using the kitchen been for you? Do they work well usually?
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The RCMixGlacier went pretty well, minimal issues. This on the other hand is an ass kicker.
If you're looking testers, I'd be happy to jump on board... Just learning to use the kitchen myself, but will give you all the help I can...
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what kernel r u using? did u modify the ramdisk correctly? it will boot, i alread had it booted...
Thread moved to general until OP has ROM available, as we don't allow "coming soon" threads in the dev forums.
I see a couple people but where are all the roms? google even released 2.3.4 source but I haven't seen the explosion of developement for this phone yet. despite a few issues this phone is one badass phone. after i got one without screen bleed and really sunk into it this phone is better that any android i've ever used and has features the Samsung Galaxy S 2 won't have such as nvidia tegra 2 which in my opinion is a much more solid piece of hardware and a much more well known company than the one on the SGS 2. and Smartshare, Ultra dolby digital mobile!!! this phone is the ****! plus i heard bionix was coming to this phone via team whiskey! I see faux released a rom and he doesn't even have the phone! we have a good start but....
Where are the devs!!!??? please we need you people. you guys make phones these expensive things worth purchasing for the insane amounts of money they cost. oh mighty development lords, please develope!
its called patience.
to quote the Princess Bride "I hate waiting..." lol i have patience it just doesn't seem like many have signed on yet like with the vibrant i've had for 10 months.
You also have to remember that out dev section is split between the o2x and g2x. These two forums should be combined.
You also have to remember that out dev section is split between the o2x and g2x. These two forums should be combined.
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Totally disagree, maybe for someone with some flashing experience yes, but for noobs it would be a total mess, flashing o2x roms on g2x phones... not to mention wrong kernels, maybe even radios...not a nice thought..
G2X
fcisco13 said:
Totally disagree, maybe for someone with some flashing experience yes, but for noobs it would be a total mess, flashing o2x roms on g2x phones... not to mention wrong kernels, maybe even radios...not a nice thought..
G2X
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+1 would be a disaster.
I agree development is slower than I'd expected..
I was gonna make a ROM, but the stock ROM with Titanium Backup is best for me. If you build AOSP you lose the awesome Camera app that LG wrote and you lose all the cool apps that come with the G2x.
For me I just uninstall the apppack app and freeze the wifi calling app and I'm good to go.
I tried the GB build and it had GPS issues and didn't have the nice camera app.
So I'm happy with the stock setup with a few tweaks.
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You also have to remember that out dev section is split between the o2x and g2x. These two forums should be combined.
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That is so wrong i don't even know where to start.
Dolphinwigs said:
to quote the Princess Bride "I hate waiting..." lol i have patience it just doesn't seem like many have signed on yet like with the vibrant i've had for 10 months.
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The Vibrant has been out for 10 months. The G2x has been out for barely 2.
Development will come.. It takes some time though. Not every Android dev has the cash to buy a new phone every time one comes out.
patience .... you guys are spoiled! g1 forever holmes!
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The G2x has been out for barely 2.
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Closer to 3 weeks. It's amazing how some people think it is easy to develop a rom.
It would help if anyone could build a kernel from the lg source that didn't break wifi and bt. All attempts have failed.....
I actually thought the opposite, I thought development is going great!
I don't remember really seeing any major development for the Vibrant until after 2 Months!
And we already have a. 2.3.3 and a 2.3.4 Rom out!
Just saying!
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It would help if anyone could build a kernel from the lg source that didn't break wifi and bt. All attempts have failed.....
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Your work would be greatly appreciated!
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2? Make that one month. It was launched on like 15th April
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Closer to 3 weeks. It's amazing how some people think it is easy to develop a rom.
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weeks... i had a feeling i left a word out lol..
Hey, if you guys want more roms, you could always make them yourselves. Just saying. Or be patient.
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regP said:
The Vibrant has been out for 10 months. The G2x has been out for barely 2.
Development will come.. It takes some time though. Not every Android dev has the cash to buy a new phone every time one comes out.
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true true. donation time!
htc2364 said:
I actually thought the opposite, I thought development is going great!
I don't remember really seeing any major development for the Vibrant until after 2 Months!
And we already have a. 2.3.3 and a 2.3.4 Rom out!
Just saying!
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i agree. guess i feel spoiled from all the vibrant support. i figured this phone would explode fast in dev. since we had root so fast and dual core, plus being a google phone. hopefully t-mobile gets off their ass and releases the official gingerbread like they promised before i purchased my phone (which was the ONLY reason i even was ok with purchasing an android 2.2 again). maybe that'll fix the problem ttabbal was talking about with the kernels.
Afraid I havnt got a link for the ROM, but here's a vid I found recently uploaded on YouTube showing it working... Hopefully not too long now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8WLgwWNhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Afraid I havnt got a link for the ROM, but here's a vid I found recently uploaded on YouTube showing it working... Hopefully not too long now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8WLgwWNhI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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i wonder if this is k-mob's...
Edit: It's Trip's build ... not worth it ... waiting for kmob's release
Pass. The ics development thread was closed so no real updates there
its from trip,... see the video,... when he is going into the settings,...
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its from trip,... see the video,... when he is going into the settings,...
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Looks like the alpha that Kmobs supposedly sent to someone. It was mentioned in one of those threads, but the post and the link to youtube was taken down.
Matt
This is Trip's build. Clearly visible when the about screen is shown. Alpha 4 to be exact.
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This is Aplha 4, TripNiCE. Great development going on in MoDaCo.
The guy has amazingly long fingers, he should pick up a guitar.
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Yeah, its Trips build. Trip was banned from XDA a little while ago and stopped all development over at MoDaCo because Kmobs disproved a lot of what Trip said his ROMs had, like full hardware acceleration. Then Trip edited the title to his ICS thread and called Kmobs a winker.
Sorry Arzbhatia but not much developing is going on at MoDaCo lol.
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Yeah, its Trips build. Trip was banned from XDA a little while ago and stopped all development over at MoDaCo because Kmobs disproved a lot of what Trip said his ROMs had, like full hardware acceleration. Then Trip edited the title to his ICS thread and called Kmobs a winker.
Sorry Arzbhatia but not much developing is going on at MoDaCo lol.
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Well...It's an alpha build,so i didn't expect much.At least we had a chance to play with ICS on our Sensation.
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Well...It's an alpha build,so i didn't expect much.At least we had a chance to play with ICS on our Sensation.
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Im not fully understanding your response. Care to explain?
Trip is actually working very hard. He's like a one man army..
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Trip is actually working very hard. He's like a one man army..
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Now, is he doing a proper ICS build or more of a frankenstein "ducktape" style build? After reading what Kmobs said, it looks like Trip is putting together a ROM using all sorts of stuff rather than what he is supposed to be doing.
Its so hard to figure out what exactly is going on. I also dont understand how Kmobs could be doing so well (or so we are told) and then see Trip having such a hard time.
Matt
He may have been working hard but the temper tantrums I think we can all do without. Now he said he has uninstalled all ICS developing tools from his computer and is done.
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He may have been working hard but the temper tantrums I think we can all do without. Now he said he has uninstalled all ICS developing tools from his computer and is done.
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What? Again? As in, this is breaking news?
LOL
How old is Trip? Does anyone know?
Thats too bad. It looked like he was heading down the right path.
Matt
No haha, there's nothing of that sort. There's another thread with the development.
Dont be hating, he's doing s good job as always!
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I don't know what you guys are talking about...he has not stopped developing... He even released a new alpha last night...
http://android.modaco.com/topic/349273-05-12-tripnice-s004a-icecream-sandwich-401-alpha-2/
The thread got deleted
http://android.modaco.com/topic/349130-lolkmobs-wanker/
https://plus.google.com/113702637309752822154/posts/WrTF69yKqwV
Paul or someone must have talked to him and got him under control.
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Looks like the alpha that Kmobs supposedly sent to someone. It was mentioned in one of those threads, but the post and the link to youtube was taken down.
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i wonder y would kmobs do that??? he is of a sane mind n dnt think that is even posible that his build will be leaked outside,...
lets not make this thread also into a gang bang,....
even am being eagerly waiting for ics build(a stable one),... lets just give the boys a lil time to perfect the builds,... am not a dev nor have any kind of knowledge about it apart from basic rooting, flashing n all read the noobs guide stuff involved(as most of the users r!!!),.. so y dnt v just flash the rooms released n b happy than,... creating freaking bootloop war ,...
i think if the mod closes this thread it would b better,...
Who wants to try this?
http://www.mediafire.com/?8gwvmyjdhwvemw1
Report back desperados.
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where did you find this?
Wow wondering if its good or not. Debating flashing you know?
Nvidia always!
Has anyone tried this?
checking some of the code... im not flashing this **** without knowing what im putting on my phone...
sources would be nice so im not anxiously dissecting this mess all night only to find out that its a bunch of rubbish
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checking some of the code... im not flashing this **** without knowing what im putting on my phone...
sources would be nice so im not anxiously dissecting this mess all night only to find out that its a bunch of rubbish
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Nice, hopefully it's not a waste of your time and it's legit. And it is sketchy that it would be posted without a source.
build.prop says its a dec7 build... **** it... flashing...
LOL. I literally googled "ICS G2X" and found a mediafire link.. don't flame me.. was just wondering if it was legit.
Most likely a broken AOSP or CM build being tossed between devs.
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Maybe the alpha that was posted here but later removed...
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
we will know soon enough, holdon im booting it up... cross your fingers that my **** doesnt catch fire lol
Sorry guys.. I googled the link itself..
It is the: Alpha Version 3 W/O On Screen
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Sorry guys.. I googled the link itself..
It is the: Alpha Version 3 W/O On Screen
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/facepalm
yerp thats what it is... but those who want to try it still it boots and you can play around with the new ics interface a bit if you want but dont expect a concrete stable build lol
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yerp thats what it is... but those who want to try it still it boots and you can play around with the new ics interface a bit if you want but dont expect a concrete stable build lol
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I really wish those idiots didn't flame the devs... we would have had a decent near perfect build right now.. stupid ignorant people just blaming everyone else and expecting great outcomes.. now that's /facepalm
btw.. can you post some screenshots?
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I really wish those idiots didn't flame the devs... we would have had a decent near perfect build right now.. stupid ignorant people just blaming everyone else and expecting great outcomes.. now that's /facepalm
btw.. can you post some screenshots?
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I already restored back to my bionix reloaded build sorry... just boot it up on your own, you cant do any harm by flashing it for a bit...
its literally an AOSP build... 4.0.1 (with a bunch of other digits after)... same old kernel... sound doesnt work so you can even make phone calls... its a mess to say the least...
and i doubt it would be fully working since we still dont have tegra2 drivers from nvidia... 2.2 to 2.3 is a doable fix, 2.3 to 4.0 is no beuno... nvidia or LG has to throw us a bone on this one...
i wonder why they stopped and gave up on these when everything was going so great??
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i wonder why they stopped and gave up on these when everything was going so great??
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As I understand it they didn't stop, they just stopped posting about it because of all the noise in the thread.
gypsy214 said:
i wonder why they stopped and gave up on these when everything was going so great??
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No one ever said they gave up. They just closed the thread.
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No one ever said they gave up. They just closed the thread.
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I am pretty sure they are humble enough to continue working on it for the rest of us who are more appreciative and patient.
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Well I tried it and it works just cant get a data connecting 2g 3g or wifi. it was cool though having ICS for a minute!
this one didnt have the onscreen buttons too!
Cant wait for this to be put on this device. Tried a Galaxy Nexus at the local store and was amazed at the software. I would get one of those but seriously Tegra 2 is better than sgrx 540, Trust me that GN can not do what this G2x can in terms of gaming!
Hi there, I am coming from an HTC ONE V to HTC One mini (I like the form factor and the 512mb were REALLY not enough for me... hope that the 1Gb will do it).
Just received the device today so directly jumped on xda to flash it on CM but ... a bit disapointed that nothing has been ported out yet.
Hopefuly will be released soon. If beta testers needed, PM me.
Hope to see smth soon as I am already bored of Sense5.
Cheers guys
It is in the works. You can find some information in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459528
Funny enough, I am also coming from One V. Looking back it feels like a toy in comparison with the Mini.
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Hi there, I am coming from an HTC ONE V to HTC One mini (I like the form factor and the 512mb were REALLY not enough for me... hope that the 1Gb will do it).
Just received the device today so directly jumped on xda to flash it on CM but ... a bit disapointed that nothing has been ported out yet.
Hopefuly will be released soon. If beta testers needed, PM me.
Hope to see smth soon as I am already bored of Sense5.
Cheers guys
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It is in the works. You can find some information in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459528
Funny enough, I am also comming from One V. Looking back it feels like a toy in comparison with the Mini.
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Looks like abandonware to me ... but I might be too pessimistic on that topic.
Not a coincidence but only consumer insight. Bought the One V and the One Mini because I hate big screen phones that don't fit in one hand/my pocket. It's a pity that the only manufacturer that exploits such a form factor with the last tech components seems to be the Pear.
Anyway, hope the hardware on this One Mini will be enough for all my apps to run properly ... and hope to see a CM mod soon enough anyway (and that's a lot of hopes in one sentence)
@h8rift is working on it - at least he was working on it a month ago, hope he made some progress int his time.
you are not the only person waiting for CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417411
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@h8rift is working on it - at least he was working on it a month ago, hope he made some progress int his time.
you are not the only person waiting for CM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417411
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Yep. Still working on it. Audio is being a beast so I am going a different route. Also had life things happen and work is at peak time this month. Shouldn't be too much longer
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...Also had life things happen and work is at peak time this month....
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your private life is more important than CM? you are strange
just happy someone is still working for the mini!
rift
theodorius123 said:
your private life is more important than CM? you are strange
just happy someone is still working for the mini!
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we love you
xdamar said:
It is in the works. You can find some information in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459528
Funny enough, I am also coming from One V. Looking back it feels like a toy in comparison with the Mini.
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haha
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Hate to say but cannot stand Sense5 anymore.. will get back to my One V waiting CM port for the One Mini :-/
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Yep. Still working on it. Audio is being a beast so I am going a different route. Also had life things happen and work is at peak time this month. Shouldn't be too much longer
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We are just waitin for it