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There is Fake M4 on sale, Be careful of your order.

The Fake Xiaomi Mi4 on sale about 1 month ago. The ROM is MIUI but CPU is MTK. So be careful if you buy from ebay or aliexpress, especially aliexpress. Better ask seller give you IMEI number with your shipping bill togther.

Fake Mi4
I got one from aliexpress seller. the good thing is I found it out early because its a bit slower than usaual snapdragon phones so i decided to install an app which reads system information and confirmed that its a fake mi4 with MTK processor, 1GB ram, and 720p resolution.
and now I sent back the phone to seller and have to pay the return shipment. so disappointing.

lhongskie1979 said:
I got one from aliexpress seller. the good thing is I found it out early because its a bit slower than usaual snapdragon phones so i decided to install an app which reads system information and confirmed that its a fake mi4 with MTK processor, 1GB ram, and 720p resolution.
and now I sent back the phone to seller and have to pay the return shipment. so disappointing.
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care to share how much did you pay for the fake one ?
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what did the seller said to you after you did the claim ?
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Ooh, better not to buy from anywhere else either than real resellers.
I bought mine from http://xiaomishop.com. They seem to be the only ones that have an EU Warehouse with express shipping, so that if you live in EU you can avoid all the import tax crap. However the shipping charge for me was $48 which is a bit much IMO but it is a 1-2 day service.
Another 2 good ones are: Oppomart (http://oppomart.com) and Xiaomiworld (http://xiaomiworld.com).

xiaomishop.it is also working if you live in EU, shipping to Sweden in 3 days.

geko95gek said:
Ooh, better not to buy from anywhere else either than real resellers.
I bought mine from http://xiaomishop.com. They seem to be the only ones that have an EU Warehouse with express shipping, so that if you live in EU you can avoid all the import tax crap. However the shipping charge for me was $48 which is a bit much IMO but it is a 1-2 day service.
Another 2 good ones are: Oppomart (http://oppomart.com) and Xiaomiworld (http://xiaomiworld.com).
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http://xiaomishop.com is the official online footprint for Xiaomi. Very helpful, fairly quick response times to queries. My only issue was shipping to South Africa had no courier option.
Can anyone comment on Xiomiworld?

http://www.gizchina.com/2014/07/11/top-3-stores-can-buy-xiaomi-mi-pad-now/
Xiaomishop.com are not an official store owned by the Beijing based phone and tablet maker, but they do have contacts and are able to ship products quickly.
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Nothing official in Xiaomishop, just reseller. (They sell original Xiaomi products.)

I bought one on DX , hoping for not be fake!

App name please...
lhongskie1979 said:
I got one from aliexpress seller. the good thing is I found it out early because its a bit slower than usaual snapdragon phones so i decided to install an app which reads system information and confirmed that its a fake mi4 with MTK processor, 1GB ram, and 720p resolution.
and now I sent back the phone to seller and have to pay the return shipment. so disappointing.
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hey bro,
which app did u use to check the internal spec details of the phone?

gunzzer222 said:
hey bro,
which app did u use to check the internal spec details of the phone?
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I believe CPU-Z should do it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z

thank you
wtfhax said:
I believe CPU-Z should do it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cpuid.cpu_z
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thank you bro....

xjarl said:
The Fake Xiaomi Mi4 on sale about 1 month ago. The ROM is MIUI but CPU is MTK. So be careful if you buy from ebay or aliexpress, especially aliexpress. Better ask seller give you IMEI number with your shipping bill togther.
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Can u post the link where did u bought fake one? Please

That is to pity. Fake Xiaomi device is quite common in China, the quality of it is very bad. There is a good way to devide fake things: enter the recovery of your Mi4, if there is a "Mi Flash", it can't be fake.
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I also got a fake, or perhaps it was a horribly refurbished and rooted used device built from scraps. It was loaded with bloatware (and probably spyware), but all the stat monitors seemed to say it has legit specs except for the the battery which was 2400mAh and discharged almost faster than it could charge. Interestingly it was all VERY well packaged like it came from a factory and everything looked 100% genuine on the outside, but when I removed the back cover I could see that it had been worked on and the plastic parts and battery were in horrible condition... so always buy Xiaomi from a reputable dealer if you want the real thing.

Phone Original Rom is duplicate
xjarl said:
The Fake Xiaomi Mi4 on sale about 1 month ago. The ROM is MIUI but CPU is MTK. So be careful if you buy from ebay or aliexpress, especially aliexpress. Better ask seller give you IMEI number with your shipping bill togther.
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I bought from banggood.com. Its a magical phone for that price. but Rom is customized..they installed international ROM with lot of adware and unnecessary apps. It has not atleast mi Store. I installed mi store after. I want to change it but model is mi4 LTE-CT (China Telecom). This china telecom version does not support normal Global mi4 ROM. I did not root any phone before. this is a very rare phone to my country. bangood is good. but their OS Customising is very bad.

Honor V10, Bluetooth and OIS

Got an Honor View 10 from John Lewis yesterday and was lucky I pulled the trigger yesterday because the price went up from £339 to £449 overnight. I haven't opened it but just wondering whether not having OIS is going to be a permanent thing and also is Bluetooth going to be updated to 5.0 if it isn't a hardware issue?

anyway Honor have answered me, Bluetooth is permanently on 4.2 as its a hardware issue. The OIS stuff they have forwarded to their R&D department.

same here, got it for 339£, have it unopened while I contemplate what to do next. johnlewis has an amazing 35 days return policy.
no eis update is a sure return for me

Who cares about eis... I make awesome videos just the same.
And they come out just fine.
I'm loving mine
Even put my s8+ in the desk drawer
It's like talking to parakeets
Squak Squak.. No eis Squak whaaa
Sooner or later it will be fixed
Go on spend 1000 sterling pounds dollars.
I'm laughing and making awesome videos
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L09 using XDA Labs

speaking about the l09 uk version, does it come with both uk and eu adapters?

varignet said:
speaking about the l09 uk version, does it come with both uk and eu adapters?
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Mine just came worn the eu one... Had to buy an adapter off e bay.... $1.80 us
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nolia what about yours one?

Ois so far has posed no problems for me, just have to remember that decent lighting is required for quick response of the camera, other then that the dual shooter is fantastic imo.
Can I ask the difference between Bluetooth 4.2 and 5.

varignet said:
nolia what about yours one?
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haven't opened it. Normally goods sold in the UK from big chains have UK plugs.

mrmigs2011 said:
Ois so far has posed no problems for me, just have to remember that decent lighting is required for quick response of the camera, other then that the dual shooter is fantastic imo.
Can I ask the difference between Bluetooth 4.2 and 5.
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bluetooth 5 allows you to connect 2 devices simultaneously e.g you can connect 2 bluetooth speakers and stream music to both of them. In 4.2 its one or the other, it will show there is 2 bluetooth headphones/speakers but you have to chose 1.

Nolia said:
haven't opened it. Normally goods sold in the UK from big chains have UK plugs.
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Please let me know if you decide to open yours, will do the same. I wish it comes with the EU plug it would work better for my ends.
p.s.
congrats on the deal, I was keeping an eye on amazon at £369.99 until it run out of stock.
Following day CPW had it on the website at £339.99 for 2 days, I was literally ordering it when the price went up to £449.99 I think it was.
Johnlewis luckily had it in stock at £339.99 and I pulled the trigger. I knew JL was going to amend the price and bam it did the following day, following CPW 's foodsteps eheheh.

varignet said:
Please let me know if you decide to open yours, will do the same. I wish it comes with the EU plug it would work better for my ends.
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congrats on the deal, I was keeping an eye on amazon at £369.99 until it run out of stock.
Following day CPW had it on the website at £339.99 for 2 days, I was literally ordering it when the price went up to £449.99 I think it was.
Johnlewis luckily had it in stock at £339.99 and I pulled the trigger. I knew JL was going to amend the price and bam it did the following day, following CPW 's foodsteps eheheh.
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yeah they follow each other haha. The note 8 dropped at CPW and bingo John had it at the same price. But anway, why so much emphasis on EU plug assuming u live here of course or u live in Spain lol
I will set mine next week when I go home, doubt would return it. I have read a lot of positive reviews and some neg but overall positives trounced the negatives.

I'm based in London but will likely move to Europe for work reasons within weeks

Moto Z4 not coming to Europe?

The official announcement for the Moto Z4 is only for the US. Do you think there is hope for a European model soon?
In this FCC leak (https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z4-play-specifications-fcc/) it said that a version for Europe is planned. But many German websites claim that this is a US only phone. But they don't cite any source for this claim.
Would like to know whether I should still wait or buy something else. Thanks a lot!

rhhd said:
The official announcement for the Moto Z4 is only for the US. Do you think there is hope for a European model soon?
In this FCC leak (https://www.xda-developers.com/motorola-moto-z4-play-specifications-fcc/) it said that a version for Europe is planned. But many German websites claim that this is a US only phone. But they don't cite any source for this claim.
Would like to know whether I should still wait or buy something else. Thanks a lot!
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Motorola Germany said, at least on their market, they wouldn't have any Z4 coming this year.

sklks said:
Motorola Germany said, at least on their market, they wouldn't have any Z4 coming this year.
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Thanks! Do you have a link? What does "on their market" mean?

I can't find it but if you notice on the UK and IT there isn't any information about Z4.

There's a higher version of z4
Z4 Force

According to Motorola there will not be force this year https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/31/18647830/motorola-moto-z4-force-not-releasing-this-year

Bad news https://www.techradar.com/news/moto-z4-wont-be-launching-outside-the-us-and-canada

OTBOPKOTO said:
Bad news https://www.techradar.com/news/moto-z4-wont-be-launching-outside-the-us-and-canada
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Well that's just stupid. On the other hand, Moto Z4 does support bands B3, B7 and B20. So it's still possible to import.

Hope it's not their final decision. The way it's written looks like there's a door open.
As for importing - no warranty and an extra $/€/£ 100 or so for shipping(unless a buddy brongs one for you) makes it a tough decision.

OTBOPKOTO said:
Hope it's not their final decision. The way it's written looks like there's a door open.
As for importing - no warranty and an extra $/€/£ 100 or so for shipping(unless a buddy brongs one for you) makes it a tough decision.
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You're right. Suddenly a Moto Z3 Play with that battery mod included for 250 eur seems like a sweet deal. Also, I'm interested what Xiaomi Mi A3 will bring to the table

I've researched. It will only cost me $ 20 to get it where I live. Now the question is if it does indeed support the right bands for over here.
I'd also wait for some other offer, preferably a battery, as I already have the 360 camera mod.

You can check all the bands here at the bottom of the page: https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-gen-4-unlocked

If this Z4's low performance with high price, I don't think this model will good-sale in Europe.

Low performance with high price? Isn't it other way around? Which other phone offers 128gb storage, 6.4" screen display, night vision camera, headphone jack, in display fingerprint reader and micro sd card for under $500? Not even going to bother mentioning the added benefits of mods.

Excellent camera!?
What I have found Z4 has better camera, than for example Google Pixel 3a. In my mind way better video camera.
Is there any other Motorola phone, which has that camera? And is it really possible Z4 is not coming to Europe?

Really want to buy this phone so I can replace my z play. Hope it can be sold to other countries and release a dual SIM version.

I've ordered it, should be here soon. Hopefully all works as expected.

I am from Germany and were lucky to have got the rare opportunity to get a second hand Z4 from Germany. So no import charges and no expensive shipping cost.
I have not regretted the purchase yet. No problems with frequency bands, connection and so on. I really like the phone. What I noticed, especially, is that it is very much less sensitive to signs of use like scatches or similar. With all my former Z Series devices, I could at least see scratches at the frame very quickly - even although using a bumper most of the time. With my Z4, I only use a StyleShell for the back with zero protection for the metal frame at the sides and still not one single scratch. Wonderful!
No warranty is not really true. The truth is, you will have warranty, but you will have to send it to the USA then. I can not imagine that shipping a little box only containing a flat mobile to the USA could be that expensive. For warranty, you only have to send in the mobile and nothing else. So warranty claims will only become more complicated. But for me, Z4 is worth that risk and inconvenience.
And after all: Z4 is a REAL battery beast!

Well I've got it. All works as expected. First impressions are really good. Still getting used to the taller aspect ratio.
I also seem to have gotten the amz one. Don't mind the few mb bloatware. I just wonder if software updates will be as usual or further delayed?

Maheshwara said:
I only use a StyleShell for the back with zero protection for the metal frame at the sides and still not one single scratch. Wonderful!
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According to reviews use of StyleShells is one of the biggest drawbacks with Z4, as they don't fit to the frame as nice and seamless as on previous Z models. I'm also using StyleShell on permanent basis and while it maybe not so big issue with some of the bigger and shortly used mods, it seems like showstopper to me if there is a gap and StyleShell doesn't fit well. Would you be so kind to clarify this? Maybe you can make some photos of your StyleShell attached?

Oneplus 7 8/256GB worth it for 609€ on Amazon?

As the title say I'm probably buying the non pro version due to the huge price difference (140€), what do you guys think? Ah I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, yesterday unfortunately I've discovered that the type c is kind loose and now the cable slips away if I slightly move the device...
Thanks in advance for the help!

7t should be out in 2 months time. Might be worthwhile waiting for it.
Sent from my Oneplus 7 pro using Tapatalk

sand_man said:
7t should be out in 2 months time. Might be worthwhile waiting for it.
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Problem is that I don't know when the type c port will break definitely, that's my main concern...

Killua96 said:
Problem is that I don't know when the type c port will break definitely, that's my main concern...
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Probably an inexpensive fix. Won't you need to get it fixed if you plan on selling the phone at some stage?
I'd get it repaired and wait for the 7t.
Might find the 7pro gets heavily discounted soon too.
I've got the 7pro and it is fantastic! The 90hz screen is unlike anything I've ever used on a smartphone. Not sure the 7/7t will have a 90hz display.
Sent from my Oneplus 7 pro using Tapatalk

sand_man said:
Probably an inexpensive fix. Won't you need to get it fixed if you plan on selling the phone at some stage?
I'd get it repaired and wait for the 7t.
Might find the 7pro gets heavily discounted soon too.
I've got the 7pro and it is fantastic! The 90hz screen is unlike anything I've ever used on a smartphone. Not sure the 7/7t will have a 90hz display.
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It depends on Amazon answer on that, sometimes they refund it if it's not available. Anyway I'll do as you advised, I'll wait for the T version hoping to not break the port :fingers-crossed:

Killua96 said:
As the title say I'm probably buying the non pro version due to the huge price difference (140€), what do you guys think? Ah I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, yesterday unfortunately I've discovered that the type c is kind loose and now the cable slips away if I slightly move the device...
Thanks in advance for the help!
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NO!
Oneplus 7 is worth buying in China, because you spend 200€ less money (about 400€ for a new 8/256GB) and you keep Oneplus official warranty for 1 year.
Ok you lose just 1 year, but the price is the same as a Mi 9T Pro
Or if you are lucky enough (just as me), you could find in Amazon Warehouse Deals, an OP7 used in perfect condition, paying the same as a new one in China market, but with a perfect phone and Amazon warranty (and you can give it back if it is not good enough for you).
I found a French OP7: same as the others OP, but in France it is mandatory to include earphones into the package (usb-c earphones worth 20€ in Oneplus shopping page)

I ordered the OP7 with 256Gb/8GB Ram for 390€ at Gearbest during flashsale. Pretty good deal in my opinion ? I hope the delivery doesn't take too long...

Killua96 said:
As the title say I'm probably buying the non pro version due to the huge price difference (140€), what do you guys think? Ah I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, yesterday unfortunately I've discovered that the type c is kind loose and now the cable slips away if I slightly move the device...
Thanks in advance for the help!
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I ordered my OnePlus 7 8/256 from Aliexpress for $440 so no, Amazon's current price of 600 euros is not a good deal.
For that kind of money you would get the 7 Pro on Aliexpress.

No, this device not worth such money!
I have it for 3 month already and no single custom rom, I would wait little bit for release of 7t pro and buy the 7 pro version.
Have you tried maybe the usb plugs from ali like quick connect..

Killua96 said:
As the title say I'm probably buying the non pro version due to the huge price difference (140€), what do you guys think? Ah I'm coming from a OnePlus 6, yesterday unfortunately I've discovered that the type c is kind loose and now the cable slips away if I slightly move the device...
Thanks in advance for the help!
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I personally advise to purchase the OP7. It's my best best phone so far (dual speakers, same ufs3, same main camera...).
But... I've paid 381€ for the 8/256 chinese version in a much nicer red colour. There's no important difference between global and chinese versions (charger plug, instructions language...). You've even got 1 year official warranty!
Joan Tur (OP7)

Do you guys recommend buying the OnePlus 7 now? I can get a pre-owned 6GB with 10 months warranty with insurance remaining. Around 75% of that price I can get a 6T with a few months warranty remaining. Also I can't afford a 7T. Which phone do you guys recommend?

Tbh I wouldnt get either phone
Theres a lot more phones coming out this year with better specs

not sure where to post this because no thread for it

Umdigi s5 pro any good? if it is i found a place selling em from california on Fleabay https://www.ebay.com/itm/UMIDIGI-S5...3728:g:AhQAAOSwWcBe2bgJ&LH_ItemCondition=1000

leo5111 said:
Umdigi s5 pro any good? if it is i found a place selling em from california on Fleabay https://www.ebay.com/itm/UMIDIGI-S5...3728:g:AhQAAOSwWcBe2bgJ&LH_ItemCondition=1000
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I very much don't recommend you to buy this phone at that price, you have sooooo many other option, Umdigi and other Chinese less known brands often are a problem when in comes to Customer services. Same when you need to flash ROMs on it or have a problem with it, no devs are buying this.
Plus if you have trust issues with Chinese products, this one won't fit your expectations.
Please don't buy that. Just for the price point, that would be a loss for you.

Okay what do you suggest with about the same size screen and the same horsepower that chipset is slightly faster than a 730 g I looked also it needs to have bands for for Sprint so if you know of anything with a screen size that size and slightly more horsepower than a 7:30 g and 6 GB of RAM in that price range let me know thank you

leo5111 said:
Okay what do you suggest with about the same size screen and the same horsepower that chipset is slightly faster than a 730 g I looked also it needs to have bands for for Sprint so if you know of anything with a screen size that size and slightly more horsepower than a 7:30 g and 6 GB of RAM in that price range let me know thank you
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The Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite seems to fit your expectations. Idk the price where you live, but for me it's close to 250$ (270€). It might be because of a sale, but if you want those specs, wait a bit longer till you have more budget or till the price is down to 250$.
Have a good day

The Umidigi S5 pro is a good phone. I have used it for over 8 months and I love it. Very fast and have had no hiccups. If you are overly concerned about it being a Chinese product (Which most of the phones are manufactured in Asian countries) then throw a custom rom on it. One that I know works for it is Havoc OS which is perfect because it is classified as a gaming phone.

leo5111 said:
Umdigi s5 pro any good? if it is i found a place selling em from california on Fleabay https://www.ebay.com/itm/UMIDIGI-S5-Pro-6GB-256GB-6-39-FHD-Smartphone-Pop-up-Camera-Octa-Core-Dual-SIM/283946465064?hash=item421c873728:g:AhQAAOSwWcBe2bgJ&LH_ItemCondition=1000
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Change this thread's idiotic title to "Umdigi s5 pro any good?" TIA