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So I never have come close to using my 5 gb of data but it seems that it happened for the first time last night. I was under the impression that throttling was only used under extreme conditions for repeat offenders seeing as how "some people" have managed to exceed the limit without being hit. My data stands at .01 kbps download and .001 kbps upload. I'm pretty annoyed right now and am giving more and more thought into another carrier and another phone. I am noticing that this phone officially bores me now. Sad because I did like it...til now.
Edit: I've jumped to 45 kbps download and 70 kbps upload. That seems to be the max now..
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well thats what you get for going over 5gb. its life on any carrier and any phone. so if your bored of the phone ok get another phone but your throttled life isnt going to change.
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well thats what you get for going over 5gb. its life on any carrier and any phone. so if your bored of the phone ok get another phone but your throttled life isnt going to change.
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Any carrier? Last time I checked, Sprint is the only carrier to have true unlimited data. Rumors have stated Verizon is reconsidering. AT&T continues to honor grandfathered unlimited plans and T-Mobile has done what? Lowered everyone's data allowance regardless of previous plans or time with the company.
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Well I have unlimited android web since last march and I've always had unlimited, no throttle, nothing, I've downloaded unlimited amounts and still no throttle.
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jonathan3579 said:
I'm pretty annoyed right now and am giving more and more thought into another carrier and another phone. I am noticing that this phone officially bores me now. Sad because I did like it...til now.
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I've hit the data throttle points a few times so i can speak from experience.
Just because you've hit the throttle point doesn't mean that the phone in itself sucks. The phone is still the same phone that had good download speeds. If you want to go to another carrier then fine. I'm not going to even attempt to stop you. But keep in mind 5Gb is a fair amount of usage. And other carriers will charge you for going over your limit, not just throttle you.
And for new customers AT&T doesn't even offer unlimited anymore. it's $25 for 2gb and $10 for every gb you use after that.
Sprint has unlimited, but their speeds suck for now. And they have horrible CS.
Verizon is still setting up their LTE network, and I believe once they are up and running they will be great. They don't even have any 4G phones yet. When the Thunderbolt comes out they'll have one, but who knows what you'd think of that phone. I haven't read any reviews.
I also heard some chatter about T-Mo re-raising their limit to 10gb. I hope they do that. IMO t-mo has amazing devices and excellent service, atleast where I live. We have all the major carriers in Spokane, and t-mo has by far the fastest data. CS speaks for itself. JD Power speaks for their customer service too. They speak good things.
In general, I think it's ridiculous for carriers to offer more and more bandwidth intensive apps like Netflix and all the streaming music apps, not to mention the ability to hook into an HDTV via HDMI or DLNA, and then lower the cap on our bandwidth to 5gb. So I hope they increase it again. It would be nice if one day they offered true unlimited and were OK with tethering and all that for us users who'd like to nix our home internet all together.
Either way, welcome to the throttling world. I don't think you'll be happier if you switch to a new carrier. Just suck it up until your next cycle. and next month, use wifi whenever humanly possible to save your data.
Cheers!
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Any carrier? Last time I checked, Sprint is the only carrier to have true unlimited data. Rumors have stated Verizon is reconsidering. AT&T continues to honor grandfathered unlimited plans and T-Mobile has done what? Lowered everyone's data allowance regardless of previous plans or time with the company.
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Clearly you haven't read Sprints terms of service. Go to their website and at the bottom of the page click it and read it.
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And for new customers AT&T doesn't even offer unlimited anymore. it's $25 for 2gb and $10 for every gb you use after that.
Sprint has unlimited, but their speeds suck for now. And they have horrible CS.
Verizon is still setting up their LTE network, and I believe once they are up and running they will be great. They don't even have any 4G phones yet. When the Thunderbolt comes out they'll have one, but who knows what you'd think of that phone. I haven't read any reviews.
I also heard some chatter about T-Mo re-raising their limit to 10gb. I hope they do that. IMO t-mo has amazing devices and excellent service, atleast where I live. We have all the major carriers in Spokane, and t-mo has by far the fastest data. CS speaks for itself. JD Power speaks for their customer service too. They speak good things.
In general, I think it's ridiculous for carriers to offer more and more bandwidth intensive apps like Netflix and all the streaming music apps, not to mention the ability to hook into an HDTV via HDMI or DLNA, and then lower the cap on our bandwidth to 5gb. So I hope they increase it again. It would be nice if one day they offered true unlimited and were OK with tethering and all that for us users who'd like to nix our home internet all together.
Either way, welcome to the throttling world. I don't think you'll be happier if you switch to a new carrier. Just suck it up until your next cycle. and next month, use wifi whenever humanly possible to save your data.
Cheers!
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Yeah, one of my good friends has discovered the wonderful fees from AT&T which I would fight. He crosses 2 gb within a week or two every bill. (And he doesn't know how to tether either...)
I have seen some relatively good speeds from Sprint here in Houston. And their $69 plan seems to be a pretty good option as well.
Verizon is the carrier that interests me the most and like you said, I believe they will be good once they finish with LTE. I am sure that I would like the Thunderbolt BUT I don't believe it to be anything groundbreaking. Let's face it, the specs are last year's best. (Actually, I don't think that even counts since the LG Optimus 2X was released in December albeit in another country.)
I have enjoyed T-Mobiles customer service however I feel that the company as a whole is making too many mistakes in exactly what you said - Promoting apps that use up a helluva lot more data with streaming and the like. On a side note, the data increase has been confirmed for the hotspot devices but nothing as far as I know of when it comes to phones. Disappointing really.
I guess this whole thing pisses me off because I have never come close to reaching the cap. In fact, I typically don't ever cross 2 gb of data so when I finally decide to dig into streaming music, tv, and movies then I get hit slowing my phone to a near complete stop. The phone isn't completely useless but it's just a fragment of what I loved about it. And syncing is taking forever thus draining my battery faster. I know there are plenty of people who have passed the threshold numerous times with no recourse but I cross it once (and haven't even checked by how much) and don't even so much as receive a data warning? I dunno....it just makes me think.
I'm always on WiFi so I never worry about this
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BTW, you may want to make sure the data they claimed you used was actually used. They seem to have some issues with their metering system. I ran into this problem last week with Tmob. They claimed I used 5.2GB in 6hours in the middle of the night while my phone was on wifi. Took forever, but they eventually unthrottled me.
More info here: http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Inter...lse-being-wrongly-throttled/m-p/755761#M23072
were you Downloading torrents?
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I'm always on WiFi so I never worry about this
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Me too so this is a non issue for me
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were you Downloading torrents?
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I'm not sure if that was directed at me or the OP, but no, I don't use my phone for torrents. I've got a mac mini server that I download everything on. I just use transdroid remote control to monitor them from my phone.
I download music and apps I buy,i also play a lot of youtube and surf all day long.
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Data responsibility
Don't get pissed at T-Mo
People that are at the top users of T-Mo will get throttled so that "you guys" don't ruin it for the rest of us.
I don't want my download speeds / latency affected because a small subset of people eat up the bandwidth thinking that T-Mo can replace their ISP. I surf, stream, communicate, etc on my phone, but I'm responsible enough to use WiFi when possible as to not lag the network.
Not sure about everyone else, but when I want my mobile data, it needs to be quick. So I use wifi when available to keep my traffic off the towers, so others that need it won't be hampered.
First off I dont have to worry about it because I already have the TBolt.. However, if friends or family ever switch over, it could be an issue for them...
That being said - if they are going to have this implemented, they need to make some changes to the android OS.
First off - when you buy a new phone, the employee types in your gmail address and syncs your phone. This is done over 3/4G since they rarely bother to put you on wifi for doing this. Not to mention you probably want to leave the store... Therefore you will be syncing all your apps on your wireless account consuming your bandwidth.
There are too many instances that the OS contacts the net for this to be viable and pointless if you turn them off. My iPhone on at&t never went over 900mb a month and I use it the same amount as this android phone. The difference? The iPhone doesnt sync over the web and pull all of your apps back down for you if you factory reset or load a custom rom. On the TBolt, I regularly hit over 10gb per month.
I believe Verizon must limit bandwidth after you reach your paid allowance, not charge overages. The FCC really needs to step in here as this is literally the internet form of rape.
I guess Sprint is smiling now?
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First off I dont have to worry about it because I already have the TBolt.. However, if friends or family ever switch over, it could be an issue for them...
That being said - if they are going to have this implemented, they need to make some changes to the android OS.
First off - when you buy a new phone, the employee types in your gmail address and syncs your phone. This is done over 3/4G since they rarely bother to put you on wifi for doing this. Not to mention you probably want to leave the store... Therefore you will be syncing all your apps on your wireless account consuming your bandwidth.
There are too many instances that the OS contacts the net for this to be viable and pointless if you turn them off. My iPhone on at&t never went over 900mb a month and I use it the same amount as this android phone. The difference? The iPhone doesnt sync over the web and pull all of your apps back down for you if you factory reset or load a custom rom. On the TBolt, I regularly hit over 10gb per month.
I believe Verizon must limit bandwidth after you reach your paid allowance, not charge overages. The FCC really needs to step in here as this is literally the internet form of rape.
I guess Sprint is smiling now?
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most people aren't loading custom roms (not to mention it's not Verizon's problem, technically they don't condone it), or downloading them over 3G/4G, but rather via the computer and transferring over USB. How you hit 10 GB without netflix is beyond me. If you're using LTE as a home internet sub than that's a whole different topic.
Streaming music for ~2hours a day except on the weekend, and moderate use each day, only puts me at max around 4GB.
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First off I dont have to worry about it because I already have the TBolt.. However, if friends or family ever switch over, it could be an issue for them...
That being said - if they are going to have this implemented, they need to make some changes to the android OS.
First off - when you buy a new phone, the employee types in your gmail address and syncs your phone. This is done over 3/4G since they rarely bother to put you on wifi for doing this. Not to mention you probably want to leave the store... Therefore you will be syncing all your apps on your wireless account consuming your bandwidth.
There are too many instances that the OS contacts the net for this to be viable and pointless if you turn them off. My iPhone on at&t never went over 900mb a month and I use it the same amount as this android phone. The difference? The iPhone doesnt sync over the web and pull all of your apps back down for you if you factory reset or load a custom rom. On the TBolt, I regularly hit over 10gb per month.
I believe Verizon must limit bandwidth after you reach your paid allowance, not charge overages. The FCC really needs to step in here as this is literally the internet form of rape.
I guess Sprint is smiling now?
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Well several things. No one has to let the vzw employees set up their phones. No one is required to sync their apps or even download any. And why should vzw, if /once they go to tiered plans simply throttle instead of charge overage. Go over you cell minutes you pay extra. Same for txt. And how is it any concern of the FCC if vzw changes their plans?
My main issue with the plans as rumored is that they do not include tethering. Most normal users will be fine with a 2g cap. My gf, on a rooted DX with Netflix, has used 700 megs this month. Just for example.
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most people aren't loading custom roms (not to mention it's not Verizon's problem, technically they don't condone it), or downloading them over 3G/4G, but rather via the computer and transferring over USB. How you hit 10 GB without netflix is beyond me. If you're using LTE as a home internet sub than that's a whole different topic.
Streaming music for ~2hours a day except on the weekend, and moderate use each day, only puts me at max around 4GB.
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Really? I haven't been able to stay under 10 gigs since Amazon Cloud / Google Music came out. And that is about 2-3 hours a day. Although I do use TuneIn Radio the other 90% of the time...
Yeah, lucky for most of us TB users, we are grandfathered in to the "unlimited" plans. I have been a VZ customer for over 15 years now, and there is no question that their services is the best....
But when the time comes for me to sign another contract, if these are the terms I will probably be forced to switch carriers...
Sprint looks appealing, they have strong data coverage in my area...and I am not concerned about "dropped calls" because I almost never use the phone any more...
Hopefully this kind of pricing will force more competition. Maybe if they offered unlimited texting and cheaper (lower than 450 minute) phone plans along with it, that would soften the blow.
I am also finding that 4G speeds really only matter to me when tethering, other than that 3G does everything I need just fine with better battery life. I could definitely do with "slower" 4G speeds with another carrier.
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most people aren't loading custom roms (not to mention it's not Verizon's problem, technically they don't condone it), or downloading them over 3G/4G, but rather via the computer and transferring over USB. How you hit 10 GB without netflix is beyond me. If you're using LTE as a home internet sub than that's a whole different topic.
Streaming music for ~2hours a day except on the weekend, and moderate use each day, only puts me at max around 4GB.
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FTP transfer for work on the fly while traveling around town. My phone is on the car charger or my desk charger most of the day. And I have an Unlimited Verizon 3G mobile modem for my laptop, so no it isn't tethering.
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Yeah, lucky for most of us TB users, we are grandfathered in to the "unlimited" plans. I have been a VZ customer for over 15 years now, and there is no question that their services is the best....
But when the time comes for me to sign another contract, if these are the terms I will probably be forced to switch carriers...
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Why switch carriers? Since they did away with the 1-year commitment earlier this year, I made the decision just to buy my phones without a subsidy. Therefore, no need for a new contract. I got my TBolt on eBay for a pretty decent price and it's like new.
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FTP transfer for work on the fly while traveling around town. My phone is on the car charger or my desk charger most of the day. And I have an Unlimited Verizon 3G mobile modem for my laptop, so no it isn't tethering.
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way to use a completely off base scenario
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way to use a completely off base scenario
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Well you did say:
How you hit 10 GB without netflix is beyond me. If you're using LTE as a home internet sub than that's a whole different topic.
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Was just giving you an example that doesn't involve tethering I use 50-70GB/mo on my phone. A lot less on my grandfathered laptop modem - mostly VPN/Remote desktop/Console work.
10GB a month? wtf?
I just averaged up my last 6 months and i average .21 GB a month. and i stream pandora, have all my accounts syncing and look on the net, facebook and twitter all day. When i get my tablet (hopefully the amazon hollywood) this will go down evenmore bc i'll be using it at home on my wifi.
I use mine heavily with netflix....and i was around 4 gigs this month
I also call shenanigans on 10gigs a month just by synching. I use about 6gigs a month but I use my LTE for a lot of things.
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Yeah, lucky for most of us TB users, we are grandfathered in to the "unlimited" plans. I have been a VZ customer for over 15 years now, and there is no question that their services is the best....
But when the time comes for me to sign another contract, if these are the terms I will probably be forced to switch carriers...
Sprint looks appealing, they have strong data coverage in my area...and I am not concerned about "dropped calls" because I almost never use the phone any more...
Hopefully this kind of pricing will force more competition. Maybe if they offered unlimited texting and cheaper (lower than 450 minute) phone plans along with it, that would soften the blow.
I am also finding that 4G speeds really only matter to me when tethering, other than that 3G does everything I need just fine with better battery life. I could definitely do with "slower" 4G speeds with another carrier.
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Sprint coverage maps are a joke, yes they have coverage but the towers are so overloaded you are lucky to break 200/kbps (yes, 200k) downstream on rev A. EVDO during the day.
WiMax is great if you are on top of your roof or in an open field, but as soon as you get into any structure with more integrity than a tree house your signal tanks (Charlotte, SC has the best Wimax from my observation) because it operates at such a high frequency.
After being a customer for 11 years I jumped ship from Sprint over the weekend and picked up two TBs to replace my 2 EVO's. Sprint 3G is horrendous, not just in South Carolina, but in NYC, Charlotte, Atlanta, San Francisco, Detroit---I have traveled to all of these places in the last 6 months, and in each location I test between the hacked Verizon PRL for the EVO and the most recent Sprint PRL both in a Sense ROM and on Cyanogen...without fail, the year old hacked Verizon 3G PRL is faster, and more consistent. I was hoping my contract would just be canceled for having 5+ gigs of roaming data every month (not supposed to exceed 300 megs), but alas I was grandfathered into unlimited roaming data.
Sprint has been "upgrading its network" for years now yet the service still seems completely overburdened. I'm going to spend 40 bucks more a month going to Verizon for two lines, but I don't really care at this point, I would rather pay to play than save and suffer...
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Well you did say:
Was just giving you an example that doesn't involve tethering I use 50-70GB/mo on my phone. A lot less on my grandfathered laptop modem - mostly VPN/Remote desktop/Console work.
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that's something that most companies should/would/could pay for. you're clearly an outlier in phone usage.
velopirate said:
Why switch carriers? Since they did away with the 1-year commitment earlier this year, I made the decision just to buy my phones without a subsidy. Therefore, no need for a new contract. I got my TBolt on eBay for a pretty decent price and it's like new.
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Did you have a 4g plan or is the unlimited data plan independent of 3/4g? Are you able to use the 4gon th e TB without having upgrade?
I use 6-8GB per month.
I know I could cut that more than in half if I wasn't ROM Flash happy and dl'd them on my PC instead of the phone.
I have 12 down and 1 up at home...I often get faster with my LTE/Bolt.
I can survive...somehow...with downloading ROMs, etc., on my PC...lol.
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Hopefully this is the case:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...-by-tiered-data-only-new-customers-and-lines/
The prices for data are criminal. The prices for tethering are even more so. I'm happy I'm grandfathered in, but I doubt I'll ever go over the 2GB since I'm on WiFi 99% of the time. I didn't even want a data plan because I have so little use for one.
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Hopefully this is the case:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/06/2...-by-tiered-data-only-new-customers-and-lines/
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I hope this is truth I barely got my TB for the same. Reason
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Well I drive a truck and use the phone for everything, on my imago I was lucky to stay under 8gigs, with the bolt I am at 20gigs
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Lets be serious newer smart phones are becoming bandwidth hoggers and a lot of companies throttle at 5gb. I easily use 5gb a day on my home's network streaming, surfing and torrenting. The increase in bandwidth requirements for a smooth videochat conversation on skype requires a lot of bandwidth. Auto sync eats up bandwidth like crazy I had to turn mine off. Streaming a live event demands huge amount of data, and Theres netflix too.
Im currently paying $46mo on my home internet without any capped I use about 100-200gb mo of a total combine bandwidth. Im paying $20mo for 5gb data with unlimited dial up speed after 5gb. Technically $5 per gbit. Rip off much?
I'm using 5gb within 2 weeks 1/2 managing my data with watchdog in a week and 1/2 I'm throttle to dial up speed.. My data plan is from G1 era supposedly I've android data preferred plan? I doubt it. But I hear that its starting to get capped..
My rant is that its foolish for cellphone company to capped data at 5gh.. After they capped they lower it to dial up speed rendering your smartphone useless for the duration until the next cycle. Why can't they cap the speed at 1mbit down and 500 up instead of 30-60 down and 100 down? It's going to be worst after the merge.. Once the merge happens I'm leaving tmobile..
I use quite a lot of data also, but I have my acct set to 200MB Unlimited. It may sound silly but at work and home I'm on WiFi and in between I just have music playing from my SD card while I drive.
I do agree though that the throttled speed is extremely slow. Maybe 7 years ago it wouldn't have mattered but everything is large these days.
Well I have a 5gb data and also tether and use it as home connection and use a little over 5gb.
The problem is that u use ur phones data too much. I have no idea how anyone uses that much data on just their phone. If you have a home connection, use that at home.
And I like the prices they are cheap on tmobile. I'm getting throttle right now and don't mind it on my phone. But tethering it is bad.
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i got throttle 1 time cause my internet was down at home so i tetherd my phone with my pc and ate 5gb up in three days never again, my phone dookie slow. also if you got 200mb plan starting tomorrow if you go over its $10 a gb and they only let you go $30 over
Then pay more or switch to a different provider or move to another country, etc. Realistic or not, there are solutions. If you are unsatisfied with your service, then speak with your money. You have the choice to not pay for overpriced services and if enough people choose to follow you, maybe companies will change their policies. Until then, they are charging a lot for a mediocre amount of bandwidth because people are willing to pay for it.
I'm thankful TMO throttles you. It means I'll never experience what happens on AT&T with their iPhone hammering.
Dude? 5GB a month?
In germany normal data flats only have 1(!!!)GB included. And for 5 or even 10 ur paying ur ass off. I know it sucks, but do u really need to do skype calls or live streaming with ur mobile data?
I thought i am a heavy user and I am using exactly 1GB/month... Now i know im not
+1 to what lianw said.
I am running push facebook, twitter, and an exchange account and I only start getting throttled towards the very end of the billing cycle of my 200MB plan. Fact of the matter is, 200MB is enough for what a majority of users need to do with their phones. Carriers will not cater to a niche group that requires 5GB of data a day.
Nonetheless, tmobile actually does offer an unlimited plan through their loyalty program: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192020
Man, data plans are cheap there and you are throttled LATE. I live in Germany and pay 25€ for 1GB. (Worthless to mention that I just need ~800mb although I'm sometimes streaming webradio)
I completely agree with the OP. T-Mobile and the like sell these phones promising this.fantastic multimedia experience, and yet, because they are too blinded by the profit motive to innovate, take chances, and find new ways to make money, they dangle something pretty in front of you, promising an exceptional media experience, then treat you like a child and try to limit the very thing they sold you, in every way possible.
And the treatment I have received by T-Mobile is disgusting. Calling me an extreme user for using 5g a month, yet they INSTALL ON THESE PHONES AND MAKE IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE apps such as TMobile TV, rhapsody, slacker, Pandora, etc. If you stream music like I do, daily on my public transportation, you will hit 5 G VERY quickly.
And let me stress, these assholes at TMobile don't just "throttle" data to edge speeds as they claim, if only that were the case. Data becomes UNUSABLE when they throttle. Unusable.
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Carriers will not cater to a niche group that requires 5GB of data a day http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192020
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This kind of bull**** is exactly what these companies try to do- frame users like me as niche, extreme, whatever the euphemism you choose...its meant to degrade and put down my use.
I'm not out there hosting torrents and doing big video downloads or streaming. I never do. I stream music from apps T-Mobile embeds in their devices-thats it. Yet they have been able to paint data use as some sort of wrongdoers who are clogging networks.
Their lack of capital layout because Deutsche Telecom has them under discontinued operations since January, which BY LAW precludes the parent company from investing in them, is the reason_if there is any-of their need to throttle, NOT users using their phones as they were meant to be used.
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I completely agree with the OP. T-Mobile and the like sell these phones promising this.fantastic multimedia experience, and yet, because they are too blinded by the profit motive to innovate, take chances, and find new ways to make money, they dangle something pretty in front of you, promising an exceptional media experience, then treat you like a child and try to limit the very thing they sold you, in every way possible.
And the treatment I have received by T-Mobile is disgusting. Calling me an extreme user for using 5g a month, yet they INSTALL ON THESE PHONES AND MAKE IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE apps such as TMobile TV, rhapsody, slacker, Pandora, etc. If you stream music like I do, daily on my public transportation, you will hit 5 G VERY quickly.
And let me stress, these assholes at TMobile don't just "throttle" data to edge speeds as they claim, if only that were the case. Data becomes UNUSABLE when they throttle. Unusable.
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Those are some great points. But in the end, you're the one who signed the contract and thus accepted the data cap. Also your hatred of tmobile is very surprising. They are the most supportive carrier I have ever dealt with. You should try getting the android preferred data plan before at&t steps in. Now I hate those guys with a passion.
You think tmobiles bad!!!!!! Try sprint!!!!!!
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This kind of bull**** is exactly what these companies try to do- frame users like me as niche, extreme, whatever the euphemism you choose...its meant to degrade and put down my use.
I'm not out there hosting torrents and doing big video downloads or streaming. I never do. I stream music from apps T-Mobile embeds in their devices-thats it. Yet they have been able to paint data use as some sort of wrongdoers who are clogging networks.
Their lack of capital layout because Deutsche Telecom has them under discontinued operations since January, which BY LAW precludes the parent company from investing in them, is the reason_if there is any-of their need to throttle, NOT users using their phones as they were meant to be used.
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http://blog.validas.com/index.php/2...erizon-wireless-smartphone-data-usage-up-150/
Sorry, you are in a niche group. That's from June 2010-June 2011.
EDIT: Actually the above link doesn't post total data used per month, this article however: http://blog.validas.com/index.php/2...-data-on-the-table-with-your-smartphone-plan/
I have unlimited unthrottled data. Even with my wifi broken on my n1, I never go over 2 gigs a month, not even when I was watching football on nfl network. Wtf are you doing that uses so much bandwidth when not at home?
Being throttle does suck.
The is pretty much useless unless I'm at home connected to my home network.
I am being throttle by mistake.
It has been almost 2 weeks.
They can easily turn the throttle on.
But to get it back on is little harder in my case.
It is supposed to be fixed today.
Well see.
I believe tmobile does have a 10gb plan.
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man this throttle thing is bad i got this phone on the 26 of july took me a five days to hit that cap and all i did was watch a couple of 5 min videos on youtube and when at home id use wifi or my tablet....
5gb is fine with me for now. My cable went out once a few months ago and I used 4gb watching movies over hotspot on Netflix. Other than that I never get close to 5gb cuz I use wifi most of the time. If I never was near a broadband connection it might bother me but then I would have to pay more for a higher throttle or try Sprint.
Yeah they're being dirty but not as dirty as Verizon or ATT. Don't blame them. Blame the idiots who live around you.
i used up my 5gb in the first 7 days of the month doing bittorrent on my phone
nah im joking ive never used my phone for that
i do like to watch justin.tv and about an hour of that is avg 360 mb on medium quality about 100 kilobytes per sec
id rather pay a little more for unlimited even though the cost for bandwidth isnt justified
*edit* my throttled speedwas under 9 kilobytes per second like 8.9 was the max i got and that isnt even 2g its like gprs or lower
I think it's exactly as others have posted. If you use 5gb in the first day you are a niche user. Whether or not that's fair, it's true. The carriers aren't going to cater to a very small percentage of the population. I also dislike the throttling, though, because I'm on a 2gb plan and almost always go over a few days before the end of the cycle and that's with me already restraining my use. I would love to be on that $20 5gb android preferred plan, but I have no access to my account because my parents do.
Personally, I think you should know what you need. If 5gb a month won't be enough for you, then don't sign a contract for only that much. Take the 10gb option, or go to a different carrier that offers more data.
I guess I forgot what it was like being on 3G(even though it wasn't that long ago)... but I was in a part of town today that apparently is still on 3G and I was like "sweet mother of god this is unbareable!!!" and got so impatient just waiting for a page to load that I just turned off my phone. ;P
on a side note, I didn't think I used much data this past billing cycle but it said I used 44GB so far(a few days left till new cycle). I guess you just get carried away when the speed is there.
any of you have similiar experiences?
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I guess I forgot what it was like being on 3G(even though it wasn't that long ago)... but I was in a part of town today that apparently is still on 3G and I was like "sweet mother of god this is unbareable!!!" and got so impatient just waiting for a page to load that I just turned off my phone. ;P
on a side note, I didn't think I used much data this past billing cycle but it said I used 44GB so far(a few days left till new cycle). I guess you just get carried away when the speed is there.
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I only get 3G inside my work. The second I walk outside I get 4G.
The 3G speed there isn't completely horrible, but yeah I feel your pain.
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I guess I forgot what it was like being on 3G(even though it wasn't that long ago)... but I was in a part of town today that apparently is still on 3G and I was like "sweet mother of god this is unbareable!!!" and got so impatient just waiting for a page to load that I just turned off my phone. ;P
on a side note, I didn't think I used much data this past billing cycle but it said I used 44GB so far(a few days left till new cycle). I guess you just get carried away when the speed is there.
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I wish. Most of where i live is still 3g. There must only be like one 4g tower in this entire city because the only area i can pick up 4g is only like three miles wide.
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sadly i have NEVER been in a 4g zone EVER
*goes to the corner to cry*
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I only get 3G inside my work. The second I walk outside I get 4G.
The 3G speed there isn't completely horrible, but yeah I feel your pain.
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Mine's the same except when I'm at home.
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Mine's the same except when I'm at home.
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Ooo that really sucks. When I first got this phone, 4g wasn't turned on in my area. The Verizon rep I talked to when buying the phone said there was a tower extremely close to my residence and that it would be turned on within the month. It was actually turned on a few days before the scheduled date, so I guess I lucked out.
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Verizon promised 4G in the "Greater Providence Area" by the end of 11/11 - considering some cities are bigger than all of Rhode Island, I've got confidence it'll be state-wide coverage
I just gotta ask....what in the world racks up 44GB in a billing cycle?
Tell me you don't stream movie after movie on a 4.3 in screen...
Before I had a fast Internet connection at work, I'd download a lot of ROMs over LTE...at 90 to 300+MB a pop, I'd be around 6GB a month or so with some other net and streaming of music, etc.
But 44GB...wow....
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I just gotta ask....what in the world racks up 44GB in a billing cycle?
Tell me you don't stream movie after movie on a 4.3 in screen...
Before I had a fast Internet connection at work, I'd download a lot of ROMs over LTE...at 90 to 300+MB a pop, I'd be around 6GB a month or so with some other net and streaming of music, etc.
But 44GB...wow....
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you'd be surprised when you do a lot of 256kbps mp3 streams, HBO Go & tethering to laptop for online gaming + steam game updates/purchases
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you'd be surprised when you do a lot of 256kbps mp3 streams, HBO Go & tethering to laptop for online gaming + steam game updates/purchases
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That's the reason for tiered data pricing...sorry.
Abuse.
Agree with me or not...but that's the facts.
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That's the reason for tiered data pricing...sorry.
Abuse.
Agree with me or not...but that's the facts.
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Not abuse if you pay for the tethering.
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That's the reason for tiered data pricing...sorry.
Abuse.
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you can proclaim 'abuse' all you want, but it's nothing that would hold up in court as it's just your personal view and not specified in legal form.
if something says 'unlimited' it basically means what it says. anyone can take that into their own meaning obviously, as you have... and I'm sure you can bring up a good arguement as to why you feel that way. technically it would be irrelevent, unfortunately.
although, since you do feel that way, what if say you have high speed internet at home... which again, is specified as unlimited. would you think it 'abuse' if you used 50GB in a month? or say you're watching HDTV and you have the TV on a lot... it's using bandwidth also... so is that ok?
Technically...you are absolutely correct.
I also scored my phone/data plan when they offered unlimited data.
To answer your question, In my area I have Comcast, Wide Open West, ATT Uverse (Which I have), and other dish providers.
NONE of them have tiered data or GB Throughput limits.
All the main mobile carriers (except Sprint) have tiered data...as a direct result of people, again...in my opinion, of pigging out at the buffet line.
There is nothing illegal about it...I agree 100%.
Just goes against my morals and ethics...and as such, abuse IMO.
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you can proclaim 'abuse' all you want, but it's nothing that would hold up in court as it's just your personal view and not specified in legal form.
if something says 'unlimited' it basically means what it says. anyone can take that into their own meaning obviously, as you have... and I'm sure you can bring up a good arguement as to why you feel that way. technically it would be irrelevent, unfortunately.
although, since you do feel that way, what if say you have high speed internet at home... which again, is specified as unlimited. would you think it 'abuse' if you used 50GB in a month? or say you're watching HDTV and you have the TV on a lot... it's using bandwidth also... so is that ok?
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Whoa, hold on buddy! Nobody said there gonna take you to court so hold off on the lawyer. He just said that is the reason Verizon is making the move to tiered data, which is true.
It is a breach of contact if you're tethering and not on a tethering plan. Simple as that.
But if you do pay the monthly fee for tethering...
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that's ok. when he gets throttled or kicked off of verizon (like sprint did when people abused customer service), then he'll be back on here crying about dial up throttled speeds.
I mostly agree with the restrictions of it being fair use and making sure everyone gets some bandwidth.
As far as land internet suppliers limiting data, comcast is doing just that from what I've heard and at&t has also started putting limits on it. So far I have not heard of TWC doing it yet, but I would guess it's coming.
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As far as land internet suppliers limiting data, comcast is doing just that from what I've heard and at&t has also started putting limits on it. So far I have not heard of TWC doing it yet, but I would guess it's coming.
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Quite possible I'm sure. I don't steam/download that much so it wouldn't be a concern to me anywho...
Good point forgetful, if you're not paying for the WiFi tethering option (which, I have to be honest, I don't know if they offered that unlimited as well) your contract is void...
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Quite possible I'm sure. I don't steam/download that much so it wouldn't be a concern to me anywho...
Good point forgetful, if you're not paying for the WiFi tethering option (which, I have to be honest, I don't know if they offered that unlimited as well) your contract is void...
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I don't tether because I already have a TWC 3g/4g hotspot that I'm stuck with (contract). Not sure what the restrictions are for tethering. I can understand the occasional tether in a pinch, but 44gb to play online gaming is abuse.
I think comcast has a 250gb per month usage cap I've read about. Not sure how much data I use at home, but I also pay for 50 down speeds so hopefully I would get a higher limit than someone on the basic broadband.
So now that a substantial amount of people are on Verizon's LTE network, are people's data speeds slowing down? In August, when I got my Charge, I was getting between 15mbps to 20mbps (speedtest.net) on LTE in the Madison, WI and Milwaukee, WI areas. I just ran a few tests today and got speeds between 5mbps and 7mbps. I know this barely affects day-to-day usage (unless you download large files and torrent like I do), but I am curious as to everybody else's speeds.
Mine have slowed down slightly, but not significantly. I do notice that I will get vastly different speed-test results based on what server I'm connecting too.
my 3g plummeted to the ground my 4g whitch is 15 miles north of me i am in utah btw is down roughly between 12-14 megs a few days i saw about 16-18 but not a huge difference for me but the 3g is killing me my sprint 3g was faster whitch i thought would not be the case...
What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.
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What are you doing torrenting on LTE? Where's your home Internet connection?
I use my LTE connection but I barely use 3 GB a month. Most of the time I'm under 2 GBs.
Damn... no wonder why Verizon implemented data usage caps and gone away from Unlimited Data.
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I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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I'm seeing slowdowns, but they aren't consistent. Never below 5Mbps, but normally, I'm still 12-15.
How about not doing anything illegal?
You know that the MPAA/RIAA are on their witch hunts. It's not if, but when, they will find you and believe you me, they will find you and you better have your lawyer ready.
NetFlix? Amazon.com Music Store? Android Market? All of which allows you to consume your media in a legal way without the constant threat of a DMCA notice.
Thanks a lot, you ruined it for the rest of us who liked Unlimited Data from Verizon. Now, because of people like you we have to endure capped data plans and the ever possible chance that they will take it away from even those who have the Unlimited Data plan. Thanks a lot, at least I now know the kind of people to blame for this crap.
Psst: There are legal uses for bittorrent.
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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I live in a college dorm where if you are caught doing something illegal on the internet they take away all your computer access and ability to use the schools wifi across campus. I would rather not take that risk.
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If you don't want to take the risk then don't do it at all.
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Yes, LTE has slowed down. But, it's still really fast, faster than all other carriers where I am.
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Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Please don't open this particular can of worms again.
terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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Verizon is nothing but a company. That company is free to do whatever it thinks will result in the most profit. Now what do you think will make more money, charging customers who are with Verizon because they already have the best service more, or spending money on new towers to attract a few customers in that area?
If Verizon customers want to tell them to stop jacking up the prices, they do it with their money (like what happened to netflix).
Also, i did not ask for advice; i was just curious as to others' experience. If you want to go cry about unlimited data, go to that "100+gb /month" thread or get unlimited data as per foreversupra's thread.
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My data has gotten substantially slower...I now average about 3mbps down and 2.5 up....far cry from the 25 down I got in the summer
terrierl said:
Not for nothing, but for the amount of money we blow on cell phone plans we should all be allowed to tether for no additional cost with unlimited data plans. We pay a flat rate for home Internet use with no cap, ranging anywhere from 30-50 per month. Verizon/other carriers should increase capacity on their towers or put up more to accommodate the usage.
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I'd like to fly to Japan for $99 but it's not going to happen.
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In Memphis I get download speeds anywhere from 15-40 Mbps, and upload speeds anywhere from 4-8 Mbps. My best speed test so far was on Monday with 40.09Mbps Down and 8.1Mbps Up.
I just got on the Verizon network about five days ago, and I'm astounded at the speeds I get on 4g LTE.
the only thing that matches my LTE speeds is my FiOS wifi but even when used side by side the LTE usually smokes wifi... I'm pleased with the speeds and the fact that its unlimited and I'm not trying to screw myself or others out of it so I keep my data usage pretty conservative
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I am still happily seeing around 40 down 20 up in San Jose, CA. It's so fast that I want to get faster SD card to match that.
Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?
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Since we're discussing torrents, has anyone noticed their upload speed being significantly slower than what you can get in a speedtest? As in if you're uploading a torrent at 3 AM, you might get 100 kBytes/sec, but on speedtest.net you might get 8 megabits/sec.
Does anyone know what would cause that?
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What would you need to upload in the first place?
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