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Tmo N1 on At&t, MMS question.

Quick question. (searched around and couldn't find this question.)
My girlfriend is using my old tmo n1 on att with no data plan. We have mobile data disabled and she just uses wifi for internet access.
We discovered that with mobile data turned off she can't get pictures in mms messages, even when connected to wifi. We have to turn on mobile data in order for her to get mms pictures.
On her old phone she was able to get mms messages just fine despite no data plan.
will turning on mobile data specifically when she wants to get an mms end up costing extra money despite the fact that she was able to get mms on her old phone with no data plan? (she toggles sync off before turning mobile data on in order to keep gmail from downloading messages and such while on mobile data.)
thanks in advance.

You prolly will hit other chargers

I'm curious what phone she used to use and how she got mms with no data plan cause its been like this for many years that I've used ATT. No data plan has always blocked mms messages for as long as I've known. Interesting.

maybe try calling your service provider.

You should post on the Nexus One forums, this is the Nexus S.
But in general, you do need data service for MMS. I too am curious what phone she had that didn't have mobile data and was able to receive MMS.

Sorry! totally meant to post this in Nexus One forums.
Her previous phone was a Samsung Impression. A cheesy smartphone wannabe.

False, you do NOT need to be paying for a data plan to be able to send and receive MMS. There is typically a separate APN in your device that specifically handles MMS and it does not cost anything.
The problem you can expect is that AT&T will most likely automatically add the $25 2GB data plan because the device will register as a smartphone on their network. Despite it only working on EDGE since it's a T-Mobile variant and despite her not using their data AT ALL, they WILL change her data plan unless she's on an older grandfathered plan. They did it to both of my lines when I picked up the Nexus One last January.

j.bruha said:
The problem you can expect is that AT&T will most likely automatically add the $25 2GB data plan because the device will register as a smartphone on their network. Despite it only working on EDGE since it's a T-Mobile variant and despite her not using their data AT ALL, they WILL change her data plan unless she's on an older grandfathered plan. They did it to both of my lines when I picked up the Nexus One last January.
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I'm not sure that's accurate.
AT&T does not recognize my i9000 phone at all...my account shows it as an unknown device. There's someone else here in this forum who claims he uses a non-AT&T SGS variant on AT&T with the much cheaper data for non-smart-phone plans.
It's a gamble, for sure, but not an absolute.

distortedloop said:
I'm not sure that's accurate.
AT&T does not recognize my i9000 phone at all...my account shows it as an unknown device. There's someone else here in this forum who claims he uses a non-AT&T SGS variant on AT&T with the much cheaper data for non-smart-phone plans.
It's a gamble, for sure, but not an absolute.
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It depends mostly on your plan. If you had the $10/month data before AT&T made the switch in September 2009, some customers had a "smartphone exclusion" code added to their account. Having this on your account, you could pop your SIM into any smartphone and your data plan would not be affected.
Those without the smartphone exclusion that activated a smartphone with the $10/month data plan are automatically switched if the IMEI is registered as a smartphone with AT&T. I'm not sure how extensive their list of registered devices is, but it extends beyond the devices they sell as both my T-Mobile Nexus One and later my AT&T Nexus One were both flagged, even though AT&T never sold either of them.
There has been plenty of discussion on this topic in the N1 forums since it originally came out. You are correct, it is a gamble, but not an absolute.

j.bruha said:
It depends mostly on your plan. If you had the $10/month data before AT&T made the switch in September 2009, some customers had a "smartphone exclusion" code added to their account. Having this on your account, you could pop your SIM into any smartphone and your data plan would not be affected.
Those without the smartphone exclusion that activated a smartphone with the $10/month data plan are automatically switched if the IMEI is registered as a smartphone with AT&T. I'm not sure how extensive their list of registered devices is, but it extends beyond the devices they sell as both my T-Mobile Nexus One and later my AT&T Nexus One were both flagged, even though AT&T never sold either of them.
There has been plenty of discussion on this topic in the N1 forums since it originally came out. You are correct, it is a gamble, but not an absolute.
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Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for the information guys. It will be interesting to see if her account has the data plan added on when the bill comes.

mfajmkas said:
Thanks for the information guys. It will be interesting to see if her account has the data plan added on when the bill comes.
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They will typically send you a "polite" text message letting you know it has been changed, so you shouldn't get a surprise bill. Their system does a sweep, so it also may not be applied until after her bill cycle date.

Avoid StraightTalk SIM.

Some of you know I have been using a pre-paid Sim Chip in my cell phone for my phone/internet service.
These past three days, my crippled data speeds have become unbearable. Time-outs caused notes to both Google Drive and Evernote to disappear into the digital ether, never to be seen or heard from again. After searching terms such as "HTC One X speeds straight talk" and "straight talk sim speeds" I began to see a pattern. People complaining of arbitrary throttling, and conflicting press releases by Tracfone Wireless and América Móvil, the parent copany of tracfone, straight talk, net10, Assure wireless, and others.
After trying the suggestions found on reputable android websites like XDA Developers and Droid FOrums I had no reliefe, and so sent an email to the corproate resolutions team at Straight talk (not the first time I've had to do this, as they tried to **** me out of at least $32 earlier this year with false advertising.)
Poor Connection Speeds
I am experiencing very poor connection speeds with my BYOP sim card. My phone is an HTC One X (ATT Version). phone number [redacted] straighttalk email registered via this account UN: [redacted]
I have set all of the APN settings to the defaults on the card and on the website.
Create a new APN with the following values:
APN Name: Straight Talk
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: http://proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
Port: 80 MMSC: http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS Proxy: 66.209.11.33 MMS
Port: 80
I have also tried variations on this APN with no luck. Other solutions tried include powercycling the phone, changing the type of default data connection, cycling the "airplane mode" on and off, cycling from 2/3G to 2G and back, updating the radio stack and baseband in my phone, and connecting to and disconnecting from a wifi network. None of these solutions has made a dent in the data speeds, which makes me fairly well certain that the problem is not with my hardware's ability to recieve signal.
At best my connection speed in Ottumwa IA is 223 kbps, and often only half that. And yet people sitting right next to me with Straight Talk phones or sim cards can easily get 1000+ kbps. The phone is not an issue, it's capable of a huge variety of frequencies and standards, and many of them are offered in my area via both ATT and Tmo towers in Ottumwa, IA. This issue has also been consistent across all of my ownership time of the SIM card. If this is a "cap" as has been widey discussed in the tech press, then it should restart with my new billing period. That has not been the case, as these slow data speeds have remained fairly consistent since I purchased the card in January, including a service lapse and reactivation.
It concerns me that I have read examinations on multiple forums and in the press from knowledgable users that there is a difference between the sim card program and the straight talk branded phones, and that users of the sim program are not only throttled, but also purposely targeted for slower speed standards in general. It is seriously affecting my usage of my phone, as in the last few days, critical apps such as Evernote and Google Drive have experienced timeouts resulting in lost data.
Straight Talk has already upset me once as a company and it took my contacting consumer advocacy groups to recieve a satisfactory resolution to that issue. The fact that I still utilize the service is a show of my good faith with it, but if these performance issues cannot be addressed, I am afraid that I will have to join many others singling the company out for criticism. Lawrence Hults
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You'll notice the specific proxy and port called out by the APN when android 2.1 or newer can easily auto-propegate these fields. It has been determined by people more knowledgable than myself that that combination of proxy and port specifically funnels SIM users to a pre-throttled branch of the network when compared with people using branded straight-talk phones.
Dear Lawrence,
We do apologize for the inconvenience this has caused you. I just checked your account on our system and found out that your data has been reduced. Furthermore, your data speed will be restored at a reduced speed 24 hours after an airtime card is added to your service end date. Should you have further questions, feel free to send us an email.
Sincerely,
Tyler
Straight Talk Wireless
Thank you for your patience, while we respond to your inquiry.
Tyler
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TLR if you ever even once go over the undisclosed cap of 1.5 gb... your connection will be throttled to >222 kbps. PERMANENTLY.
Since all of the Tracfone services under all the different names utilize the same back end, this will likely also be true of any other smart phone on a tracfone wireless service.
Then I guess I will be telling everyone I come in contact with to steer clear of any Tracfone subsidiary, as well as once again contacting the BBB and lodging another complaint. Thank you for confirming my worst suspicions about your company. This is the second time I have been baited and switched by you folks and I will not be giving this company a third chance, regardless of any offers you make to me.
Sincerely
Lawrence Hults II
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when I first signed up for the service in january, I purchased a $30 limited airtime card. when I tried to activate it, I learnd that it was "illegal" to use on the smart phone program. even though I had prior written confrimation from Straight Talk customer service that I could do just that. They then tried to keep my money for THAT card as; well as make me either eat the $14.99 I had paid for the sim card, or pay another $45 plus tax and fees for the "unlimited" card.
In fact, it's only been in the last month, after numerous complaints like mine, that they began marking on their websites and packaging that smartphones MUST use the $45 unlimited plan or higher.
So, as per my promise to this company I am passing along my experience as a warning and cautionary tale. do NOT do business with TracFone, NET10 Wireless, Straight Talk, SafeLink Wireless, Telcel América and Simple Mobile. You will be bond for nothing but tears and trouble when you need their service most and they decide you're no longer profitable enough.

Sorry to hear about all the trouble your having. I've got a BYOP StraightTalk sim too but I'm on T-Mobile's network. I've abused the heck out of my data so far but haven't noticed reduced speeds and I'm pretty sure I've gone way beyond 1.5 GB. Could this just be the case for folks on an AT&T sim?

For some reason you have just had bad service with straight talk. I've been running straight talk for the past 6 months and have never had ANY problems. One month I used about 7 gigs of data ( a rogue app) and they did throttle me for the rest of that service month to 25kbps but the minute I refilled my account the throttle was lifted and I was regularly seeing 7mbps HPSA+ again. Since then I have used 2 and 2.5 gigs and have not got any texts or calls telling me I was using too much data and I have not been throttled.
Furthermore they have advertissed that the $30 card cant be used with smartphone before last month. I knew it six month ago when I first got my sim.
And you dont even have to enter the proxy into the apn for the service to work. Been using my phone since the beginning of this year with no proxy just fine. Oh and by the way I'm extremely satisfied with the service I get. I got about a 2 dollar discount for using auto refill so for unlimited text, unlimited talk, the best coverage in the nation, and a soft limited of somewhere around 3-4 gigs of data, I would say $42.50 a month is a deal that cant be beat by ANY OTHER service provider today.

Ha, pretty funny we keep winding up in the same places. I've been with straight talk for about the same amount of time also without trouble, although slow data speeds today. Other than that I have absolutely no complaints.
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jasonwojo75 said:
Ha, pretty funny we keep winding up in the same places. I've been with straight talk for about the same amount of time also without trouble, although slow data speeds today. Other than that I have absolutely no complaints.
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Stalker!! LOL!
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Cyber stalker, get it right
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You get anywhere yet? I just got home from kids May fair and going to bed
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jasonwojo75 said:
Cyber stalker, get it right
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You get anywhere yet? I just got home from kids May fair and going to bed
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Ill take this the proper thread. We''re getting off topic here.
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sorry to hear about your troubles but I can say this least
For the past 2 to 2 and a half months I have currently been using a net10 SIM before I got my HTC One. I first jumped on the band wagon of Net10 SIM when I got Samsung Galaxy Note ( Orignal) for $200 dollars. I found the net10 sim package at my local game stop for around $15 dollars. In that package there is three SIM options : One for AT&T branded or unlocked phones; One for a T-Mobile Branded or unlocked phones; and one micro SIM for AT&T branded or unlocked phones. I paid a small fee and had my Note unlocked and used the full sized AT&T sim. Got great speeds on HSPA+ ( between 4 and 8 mbps). However when I activated the SIM on their website they notified me, albeit in the small print , that if I used an AT&T sim that at 1.5 gb of use they WOULD throttle the speed down the snail ass slow. But on the left side of the screen they announced that if the AT&T SIM users want to switch to T-Moblie service instead that they would send them a free SIM card to do so. T-Mobile blows in my town as they have no 3g ony their EDGE service which isnt worth a damn with a 4g phone. So I'm limited on the service as far as GSM is concerned . With AT&T I get the back haul 4g its not LTE but still pretty snappy. The first month my 5 year old blew threw the 1.5 gb and instead of throttling me they just cut data out completely. Then they proceed to say that if you do that and add a service card before your service end date then then it does nothing for you data speed. it has to be on or after the service end date. I waited till the day my service ended and add an "unlimited" service card. However that did nothing. It was three DAYS before I had ANY data the two more days till my speeds were on par with what they were at the begaining. So all I can say is really RESEARCH the service you want and as always learn first hand. I am currently using the micro SIM in my OneX
and so far so good. I just use wifi when and wherever I can and keep and eye on my data usage. Other than the BS at first its pretty good for what you pay.

I've personally noticed network speed decreasing with the ownership of any prepaid GMS sim card.that I've tried (h20, straight talk, simple mobile)

Straight Talk completely turned off my data. Data does not work at all, Mms doesn't work. Which is why I'm switching service providers at the end of the month. I've had no problems for about the first 2 months. Then I pay for this month's and my data is cut off. I'm not going to keep paying for something that doesn't work. My little sister has an iPhone 4 on straight talk and her data is constantly off one day then on the next.

ImagioX1 said:
For some reason you have just had bad service with straight talk. I've been running straight talk for the past 6 months and have never had ANY problems. One month I used about 7 gigs of data ( a rogue app) and they did throttle me for the rest of that service month to 25kbps but the minute I refilled my account the throttle was lifted and I was regularly seeing 7mbps HPSA+ again. Since then I have used 2 and 2.5 gigs and have not got any texts or calls telling me I was using too much data and I have not been throttled.
Furthermore they have advertissed that the $30 card cant be used with smartphone before last month. I knew it six month ago when I first got my sim.
And you dont even have to enter the proxy into the apn for the service to work. Been using my phone since the beginning of this year with no proxy just fine. Oh and by the way I'm extremely satisfied with the service I get. I got about a 2 dollar discount for using auto refill so for unlimited text, unlimited talk, the best coverage in the nation, and a soft limited of somewhere around 3-4 gigs of data, I would say $42.50 a month is a deal that cant be beat by ANY OTHER service provider today.
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Same thing here.. I did get throttled once... 13 gb in 3 weeks, cable modem died and I tethered to my laptop, Netflix, Pandora, 1channel... Gotta love mhl adapter. They dropped me to like 25k a second, pure horror. After next payment boom full speed again.. sounds like the op just had a bad run
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Its posts like these that dont let me take forgranted my 5 grandfathered unlimited lines.
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Same proble
eoraptor said:
Some of you know I have been using a pre-paid Sim Chip in my cell phone for my phone/internet service.
These past three days, my crippled data speeds have become unbearable. Time-outs caused notes to both Google Drive and Evernote to disappear into the digital ether, never to be seen or heard from again. After searching terms such as "HTC One X speeds straight talk" and "straight talk sim speeds" I began to see a pattern. People complaining of arbitrary throttling, and conflicting press releases by Tracfone Wireless and América Móvil, the parent copany of tracfone, straight talk, net10, Assure wireless, and others.
After trying the suggestions found on reputable android websites like XDA Developers and Droid FOrums I had no reliefe, and so sent an email to the corproate resolutions team at Straight talk (not the first time I've had to do this, as they tried to **** me out of at least $32 earlier this year with false advertising.)
You'll notice the specific proxy and port called out by the APN when android 2.1 or newer can easily auto-propegate these fields. It has been determined by people more knowledgable than myself that that combination of proxy and port specifically funnels SIM users to a pre-throttled branch of the network when compared with people using branded straight-talk phones.
TLR if you ever even once go over the undisclosed cap of 1.5 gb... your connection will be throttled to >222 kbps. PERMANENTLY.
Since all of the Tracfone services under all the different names utilize the same back end, this will likely also be true of any other smart phone on a tracfone wireless service.
when I first signed up for the service in january, I purchased a $30 limited airtime card. when I tried to activate it, I learnd that it was "illegal" to use on the smart phone program. even though I had prior written confrimation from Straight Talk customer service that I could do just that. They then tried to keep my money for THAT card as; well as make me either eat the $14.99 I had paid for the sim card, or pay another $45 plus tax and fees for the "unlimited" card.
In fact, it's only been in the last month, after numerous complaints like mine, that they began marking on their websites and packaging that smartphones MUST use the $45 unlimited plan or higher.
So, as per my promise to this company I am passing along my experience as a warning and cautionary tale. do NOT do business with TracFone, NET10 Wireless, Straight Talk, SafeLink Wireless, Telcel América and Simple Mobile. You will be bond for nothing but tears and trouble when you need their service most and they decide you're no longer profitable enough.
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I was wondering if you fixed this problem. I have the HTC one x and have the exact same issue I have tried everything and phone still acts up. If so could you email me the solution please my email is [email protected] Thanks

Confirmed with Net10 also
Just to report same thing with me.. I had an HTC Vivid branded Att and also a Galaxy S3. I was duped into using the Net10 service and everything was fine until I flashed a different ROM on my girlfriends S3 and all the sudden I couldnt get any mobile data. I searched and re flashed roms and thought I wiped her radio. I felt like a noob for the weekend then finaly I tried puting the sim card from my Vivid into her phone and everything worked fine. I put her sim card in my phone and I couldnt get any data. Then I got heated because I just spent 2 days and nights messing with this phone, my girlfriend now thinks Im incompetent. and I never received any type of warning and new that I didnt use that much data.
Well that monday about noon I realized that I didnt have any data on my phone either. I called the worthless customer service to ask what the deal was and talked to a gentleman in India who after 30 mins told me that I reached my limit on data. I have an unlimited data plan that costs me 50.00 x2 a month. it was the 18th so a little over a half of a month I supposedly reached a limit that doesnt exist. I asked to buy more data with no luck.
Here is a company that offers unlimited but then says I reached my limit after about 2.5 weeks without any email or warning. They have no problem emailing me for dumb ****. Then I have no option to purchase more. I know that most people would say I just had a bad go. But I can assure you that this company doesnt want your business so dont give it to them.
Net10 Straight Talk Tracfone ALL THE SAME COMPANY
Use them if you want to but you will be throttled and possibly shut down. I had a smartphone that I couldnt use for a month. Im now with Tmobile and its not much better. I have no service in alot of areas that I frequent. Im not sure if any of them are worth a damn.
thoughts???

cannonofcourse said:
Just to report same thing with me.. I had an HTC Vivid branded Att and also a Galaxy S3. I was duped into using the Net10 service and everything was fine until I flashed a different ROM on my girlfriends S3 and all the sudden I couldnt get any mobile data. I searched and re flashed roms and thought I wiped her radio. I felt like a noob for the weekend then finaly I tried puting the sim card from my Vivid into her phone and everything worked fine. I put her sim card in my phone and I couldnt get any data. Then I got heated because I just spent 2 days and nights messing with this phone, my girlfriend now thinks Im incompetent. and I never received any type of warning and new that I didnt use that much data.
Well that monday about noon I realized that I didnt have any data on my phone either. I called the worthless customer service to ask what the deal was and talked to a gentleman in India who after 30 mins told me that I reached my limit on data. I have an unlimited data plan that costs me 50.00 x2 a month. it was the 18th so a little over a half of a month I supposedly reached a limit that doesnt exist. I asked to buy more data with no luck.
Here is a company that offers unlimited but then says I reached my limit after about 2.5 weeks without any email or warning. They have no problem emailing me for dumb ****. Then I have no option to purchase more. I know that most people would say I just had a bad go. But I can assure you that this company doesnt want your business so dont give it to them.
Net10 Straight Talk Tracfone ALL THE SAME COMPANY
Use them if you want to but you will be throttled and possibly shut down. I had a smartphone that I couldnt use for a month. Im now with Tmobile and its not much better. I have no service in alot of areas that I frequent. Im not sure if any of them are worth a damn.
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I'm going to have to change my opinion here I just paid my bill on the 1st. And on the third I was having issues sending a mms. Well knowing how much I screw with the phone I assumed it was something I did.. then I noticed when I left home and my WiFi disconnected I had no data at all... Now I'm pis**d off, call customer service after looking at my data usage.. 26mb used. I get the typical india rep that says they have no idea why. Then I ask for a supervisor and the guy says ok. I'm placed on hold only for the line to be answered by a machine telling me about high data usage.. I was like Bulls**t and called back. I get pumped to same message 4 times.. now keep in mind it's was a holiday here in the US so I had quite a few beers flowing through me. I finally called back from my wife's line and refused to give my cell number or name till I had a supervisor on the line. After tearing him a new one he reset my account and I verified I had data and at normal speeds. Then I had him give me the number to the corporate office, I called and received the message about calling back between normal business hours. I'm calling them Monday and gonna have some fun, polite but pissed attitude. I'll post the results of the call and may even record it and post that. See how it goes this time.
Only thing better than customer service is finally getting the phone number directly to the main corporate office in Florida.
I shall share :thumbup:
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i used to be an Sprint user, i was paying like $165 for 2 lines , the Internet was very slow sometimes, so i looked Information of cheaper carriers and good service and i Found Straight Talk,. that uses T-Mobile and At&t network, ( depends of your Sim Card ) so i bought 2 at&t sim cards from Ebay, like $70 dollars each, and i bought this awesome device too , and i unlocked the iphone 4s ( sprint iphone ) of my daughter with GPP and now i been using Straight Talk service $45 UNLIMITED, ( $90 dollars for both phones ) and the internet is very fast , i don't know what it is, but i guess is because i have the AT&T Straight Talk sim card . i'm very happy with this new service. :laugh:
btw, i tried this APN settings, but,...
Name: ST (or whatever you want)
APN: att.mvno
Proxy: proxy.mvno.tracfone.com
Port: 80
Username: Not set
Password: Not set
Server: Not set
MMSC: http: mmsc. cingular. com (**no spaces and no”//”**)
MMSC proxy: 66.209.11.33
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type: Not set
APN type: default,supl,mms (notice I took off the mms! This is because we’ll enter a 2nd APN for mms.)
APN protocol: IPv4
Bearer: Not specified
but my data and mms wasn't working. so i finally found the correct APN settings for my At&t sim card.
APN: tfdata
Proxy: Not set
Port: Not set
Username: Not set
Password: Not set
Server: Not set
MMSC: http://mms-tf.nt
MMSC proxy: 66.209.11.33
MMS port: 80
MCC: 310
MNC: 410
Authentication Type: Not set
APN type: default,admin,fota,supl,mms,hipri
Bearer: Not specified
And now everything works GREAT.

[Q] New Nexus 5: Which ATT MVNO Shall I get?

Greetings all!
I've been a very satisfied and loyal supporter of Ting for nearly two years now. However, I've decided to get myself a 32gb Nexus 5 from the playstore (arrives tomorrow, yaay!) with the hopes that I'll eventually be able to BYOSD to Ting. For now, I'm trying to settle on an ATT MVNO since TMO coverage is awful around here for miles.
Here is my usage on Ting:
under 100 mins
no texts (I use Google voice for SMS)
150mb average data use
I pay about 15-25ish per month depending on usage.
What I'm looking for in an ATT MVNO:
Decent Customer Service
Unliminted (or even decent amount) SMS/MMS/VOICE
Decent amount of data, say 250mb-1gb.
Reliable autopay and number porting.
No more than $40/month
I would like to port my Ting number once I feel "safe" and satisfied with the ATT MVNO.
I'm thinking of going with red pocket for now since I can get a free sim from callingmart.com with 39.99 of service. However, I'm nervous about the repeated complaints about inconsistent data throttling with Red Pocket. If I like the ATT service, I'd like to port my "real number" over to AIO because I've heard they have better CS, LTE, and a more reliable data throttle of 256kbps after the plan cap. I wish they had more LTE data (in my price range), but I can deal with the 256kpbs throttle if I breach 250mb.
I like the larger data pools of Airvoice and RP but the strange stories about having to call in to reset data or restore service are unsettling. I've never had an issue with my Ting service. Ting CS kind of spoils you.
Am I being paranoid?

Aside from you owning a nexus 5, I think this thread belongs over at the Howard forums because it has nothing to do with the Nexus 5
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Dang, was wondering the same thing.
I'm in the same boat, but migrating from Sprint. I was hoping to hear what the community had to say on the matter of AT&T MVNOs. XDA is my trusted source. :fingers-crossed:

I would also like to see what the community here thinks on this matter. I'm currently with Sprint, was considering Republic Wireless, but when the Nexus 5 came out decided that I prefer that to the MotoX and so was looking at Ting. Hopefully they will come around to allowing a Play Store Nexus on Ting, but until then I'd sure like to get away from my $85 per month plan I have with Sprint towards something in the $20-$40 range. ATT and Sprint have decent coverage where I am, T-Mobile is not an option, unfortunately.

heroisnotdead said:
What I'm looking for in an ATT MVNO:
Decent Customer Service
Unliminted (or even decent amount) SMS/MMS/VOICE
Decent amount of data, say 250mb-1gb.
Reliable autopay and number porting.
No more than $40/month
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I would highly recommend Aio Wireless. Their $40 plan fits all of your criteria, and I've been really satisfied with them after 2 months. I currently use the $70 plan and the speeds and coverage are great. I would also recommend installing their MyAio app to keep track of data/pay/etc and their Visual Voicemail app which is really great to use. I can't comment on their Autopay feature because I like to manually pay my bills to keep track of where all of my money goes, but their payment method via app and desktop is painless and quick.

About 18 months ago, I left Sprint for Straight Talk. They have everything unlimited* for $45. You get unlimited 2.5GB of 4G (LTE & HSPA+ for at&t SIM, HSPA+ for T-Mobile SIM), then 2G until the end of the month. I only had to call them once after i ported a secondary Google Voice number to them (I couldn't add a service card online). I read that the customer service is bad, but it seemed fine to me. I usually get around 5Mbps, but sometimes its faster/slower too.

I'll second Straight Talk. I've had no problems whatsoever with them. I did have to call to activate my SIM card (the online process messed up somehow), and I had to talk to the manager as the first rep had no idea what I was talking about, but overall it's been great.

Aio wireless?

Has anyone heard of it? I know they are a sister company to att and they use their towers. But I have a sprint Nexus 5 if I switch and put their sim in my phone will it work?
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AIO is AT&T's prepaid subsidiary and yes it will work. All Nexus 5's are the same no matter where you purchased them from. There is no carrier branding or carrier locking on the N5. From what I hear, AT&T severly throttles date for AIO customers, so if data speed is important, you might want to consider T-Mobile prepaid or StraightTalk.

I use it now. As you probably know, they have a $40, $55, and a $70 plan, with data amounts of 250MB, 2GB, and 7GB, respectively. You get throttled to 2G after you hit your soft cap. Unlimited texts and minutes are included in all plans.
I've had it for 4 months now and can't complain. Their service in my area is good, and the speeds are up to snuff what what I need at least. The most data-intensive thing I do is stream "High quality" music from Pandora One, and it does that without a hitch. Can't comment on streaming video because I never do. One thing to keep in mind though, they cap your data speeds even before hitting you soft-cap. From their website:
If you run out of high speed data access in a given month, your access speeds will be reduced for the remainder of your month of service. But once your next month of service begins, you will once again have access to download speeds up to 4 Mbps on our 4G HSPA+ service or up to 8 Mbps with our LTE service.
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So no matter what, the fastest download speeds you can get is up to 4Mbps on HSPA+ and 8Mbps on LTE. Again, if that affects you then that's something to consider. It is good enough for me though.

I've used their $70 plan now for 2 months on the N5. It works fine except for at work. It's known at my work that att frequency is blocked by the buildings structure (metal walls, ceiling and metallic tinted windows) so I literally have 2 bars outside and zero signal inside. I will be switching to T-Mobile because of this. If it weren't for that I'd definitely stay.

Cool thanks for all the help. I might be getting a job at an Aio store and they have an employee plan $55 for 5gb so I was thinking if I get the job I might switch cuz sprint sucks haha
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vwgti18 said:
Cool thanks for all the help. I might be getting a job at an Aio store and they have an employee plan $55 for 5gb so I was thinking if I get the job I might switch cuz sprint sucks haha
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Heh I didn't know they even had brick and mortar Aio stores...

I switched from Verizon (had unlimited data) to AIO and have been enjoying it for 3 months now with no issues. Speeds are fast and I love it. I'm on the $55 a month plan.
I should tell you though that ATT is about to roll AIO into the Cricket brand. ATT owns Cricket now and it will be nationwide LTE just like AIO (if it's not already).

I have the $55 plan and service has been great, LTE at home, work and the commute. Streaming music and tethering works fine. Customer service has also been great as they helped me with the APN settings, which should be posted on their website, but are not. Some negatives are the slow ping on speed tests, a few second delay for the connection on phone calls and the Cricket factor.
Sprint and T-mobile signals are non-existent at work, so my options were limited.

what's the speed of the throttle
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I just got off phone and online chat with AIO customer service... It is the worst, they couldn't get mms to work on my Note 2 and made me power cycle thinking it would work. I am done and want to warn everyone I can.
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I considered the $55 AIO plan when I got my nexus 5, but ultimately went with the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan instead. Same amount of data, essentially the same price, same AT&T network, and no throttling of speeds.
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I too have AIO, after finding out they don't allow VPN on cellular data I'm probably going to switch to AT&T Go Phone after I get my free month unless one of the other "unlimited" prepaid carriers that uses AT&T towers supports VPN usage. I don't often go over the 2GB amount, but I did about 1/3 of the time on VZW with unlimited, part of that was tethering due to slow hotel internet and stupidly fast LTE and unlimited data. So guess I'll put in chat sessions with tech support to find out if VPN is supported over cellular data before I commit.
Also, going to chime in and mention that it took me about 10 minutes of back and forth with tech support on the phone to get them to understand what my problem was. Also, setting up SMS was slightly annoying as they didn't tell me the exact correct thing to put into the phone. However, I simply had to click "Refresh" then "Update" for the SMSC(?) number to self populate and then work fine. Prior to that I had MMS working fine both ways (after inputting the APN settings from around the web and now their site).
I'd consider T-mo but I go to many rural areas where they simply don't have coverage for work and would like to be able to stay in touch.

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I too have AIO, after finding out they don't allow VPN on cellular data I'm probably going to switch to AT&T Go Phone after I get my free month unless one of the other "unlimited" prepaid carriers that uses AT&T towers supports VPN usage. I don't often go over the 2GB amount, but I did about 1/3 of the time on VZW with unlimited, part of that was tethering due to slow hotel internet and stupidly fast LTE and unlimited data. So guess I'll put in chat sessions with tech support to find out if VPN is supported over cellular data before I commit.
Also, going to chime in and mention that it took me about 10 minutes of back and forth with tech support on the phone to get them to understand what my problem was. Also, setting up SMS was slightly annoying as they didn't tell me the exact correct thing to put into the phone. However, I simply had to click "Refresh" then "Update" for the SMSC(?) number to self populate and then work fine. Prior to that I had MMS working fine both ways (after inputting the APN settings from around the web and now their site).
I'd consider T-mo but I go to many rural areas where they simply don't have coverage for work and would like to be able to stay in touch.
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Have you found any that will allow VPN? I'm on Straight talk ATT currently and it does not allow VPN either.

I cannot speak to what AIO's actual policy is on VPN traffic but I can say that I've been on their network for almost 2 months now and have had no issues using VPNs. Perhaps they just have not caught it yet but so far so good. YMMV.
Edit: So I've been looking through their terms and can't find anything specifically mentioning VPNs or tunnels but they do have some pretty standard clauses about only using your data connection for approved activities. This certainly gives them the right to block types of traffic they don't approve of but it doesn't mean they are actively policing it either. Would love to find a more solid answer on this.
Data Services  Permitted Uses
Aio provides wireless data and messaging Services, including, but not limited to, features that may be used with Data Services and wireless content and applications (Data Services). Our Data Services are intended to be used for the following permitted activities: (a) web browsing; (b) email; (c) intranet access; (d) uploading and downloading applications and content to and from the Internet; and (e) using applications and content without excessively contributing to network congestion. You agree that Aio may engage in any reasonable network management practice and that you will use Aios Data Services only for these permitted activities.
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Well, the one rep I spoke to on the phone said they didn't allow it. I will try talking to a chat tech when I'm home again and can test it. I know I have the VPN working because I can connect over Wi-Fi (not at home) and it works perfectly. I've tried to connect over cellular at home, and on the road, never worked. I've got all the APN settings correct and SMS working, so I don't believe it to be a configuration issue.

Looking for info/advice on the i535 (flashed to verizon prepaid)

I broke my current phone "optimus zone" and i am looking for a new phone so i decided to get the galaxy s3 well im on verizon prepaid so i need a galaxy s3 that will work on prepaid verizonm and i need it to be rooted so i can use as a hotspot. i did some research and found that the i535 can be flashed to verizon prepaid "I Think" and it can also be rooted.
so i did some looking on ebay and found 3 things
1 i535 verizon unlocked - i looked at what a unlocked phone was and found out it just means it can be used with any compatable service provider. Can this be used with verizon and if so how?
2 i535 verizon - If i got this one can it be flashed to verizon prepaid? Can it get 4g on prepaid?
3 i710 sprint - i already ordered a sprint flashed to verizon prepaid one and found out u needed add on apps to use the sms and it cant get 4g so im woundering , if the' i535 verizon would be a better choice. i would have to learn to flash but thats no big deal.. i havent recieved the one i ordered yet but when i do i think im going to return it...
I have looked all over and can not figure out if the verizon i535 will get 4g after its flashed to verizon prepaid and i havent found out 100% that it can be flashed to verizon prepaid. Im posative it can be rooted i think lol. Or can i buy a unlocked i535 and use it on verizon prepaid somehow, easier than learning to flash???

Just sign up with Page Plus. They've been offering Verizon 4G LTE for a month now
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I can't get survice with anyone but verizon i dout page will work in my area. And I'm not really really consurned about 4g i just hate to have a sprint phone that only gets 3g if the same phone on another carrier can get 4g... but i just need to know yes pr no can the i535 be flashed to prepaid verizon?? And if it can it be used on 4g or only 3g like the sprint one after flash... i live in a rural area and i bairley get signal as it is... i hear that this page plus provider uses verizon towers.. i don't understand does that mean it will get the exact same signal as verizon prepaid cuz that's thr ONLY provider i can use.. pleas let me knoq if the i535 can be flashed to prepaid verizon and can it get 4g yes or no please let me know I'm without a phone and really need to know what to do... i feel like i made a mistake buying the sprint one...
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If they're truly Verizon towers I'd say page plus should work fine. I was told however by a guy with a local shop (I live in the boonies), that because we have so many towers around here that are owned by a regional carrier appalacian wireless that have an agreement with Big Red, that page plus would Roam more whereas Selectel wouldn't. Now, I don't know if the guy was telling the truth or not. I do know from Selectel's website that if you sign someone up to selectel and that person continues to use Selectel and re-ups through the website or whereever, the original person who signed you up gets a cut of the profits. Page Plus may not offer such a deal, so I don't actually know 100% either way. I'm looking to find something cheaper than Big Red myself. I have two phones with them at the moment with a bill of 105.00 or 107.00 but with only 250Mb of data and 1GB free for a year. I can get by with little to no data, I really don't use much, but I'd like to have it available should I need to go out of town and use the internet or use navigation which I suspect would drink the data. I know you can pre download maps with many apps these days though.
Let me know what you find out. I have the Verizon sch-i535 sgs3 with a broken power button but otherwise it's a good phone. Still does what I need it to, and development hasn't stopped yet, it's still going pretty strong on the aosp side..
Edit: I recently had my phone flashed to selectel wireless. If you have a cdma phone you can do the activation from their website. However, I think it must be a phone without a sim such as a DX or DX2. a cdma only phone. I had to take my s3 to a local selectel dealer who did the flash and got me on selectel. I went with selectel because it will roam on the regional towers in my area albiet voice and texting only not data. So, when roaming I won't have data. Pageplus from what I've read on both their site and another forum will roam but they will charge you quite a bit to do so. If you don't have the issue of roaming like I do and are near verizon towers all the time, I'd probably go with another MVNO.
I tried tracfone BYOP with my DX2 and spent a small fortune in service and gas going from here to there trying to get it activated. First they said to go to a town about 25min away from home. I did this and no dice. I called them twice using a wifi app (hangouts) and spent about 4 hours in this town trying to get the activation to work to no avail. I called again from home and was told to go to another town about an hour away. The next day I did just that. They had me dial *22891 *22801 this time activation went smooth and I was able to use data and make and receive calls perfectly. If I had known this in the closer town it would have worked there but the rep never told me that. To top things off when I got home I had no service at all. Zip None. When I called I was told that a BYOP android phone would not roam on the regional towers although a feature phone would. I was also told incorrectly I believe that if I had purchased an android tracfone from a local store that it would roam. This too from what I've read is incorrect. No android tracfone will roam on regional towers, they will only work on genuine verizon towers. I was hoping to purchase the moto e from ebay with a 400min card which tripled to 1200 min for 99 bucks. This would have been a great deal since the 400 min card alone is around 90. I never did find out the entire truth about roaming with tracfone android phones. But from what I read on the other forum and another site dedicated to tracfones, that they would not roam period. What a freaking ripoff. The same goes for a lot of other MVNO's they simply won't roam. Even Verizon perpaid phones won't work on any towers other than verizon. Again, this came from someone who supposedly had experience with this.
The bottom line is beware of MVNO's if you require roaming. Straight talk may or may not work I do not know if they roam or not. But either way selectel was cheaper. Granted it sucks that I can't get data when roaming but at least I can make and receive calls and texts. At least SMS. I haven't tried MMS and I'm guessing it won't work due to it requiring data. Remember your results may vary and I'd certainly like to hear from others who use a MVNO that is Verizon based. Or even MVNO that is ATT based ATT's coverage map says there's coverage in my area, and i know there is across the stateline where I live. A friend used to have an ATT phone a few years back and he had zero service when he crossed the line by about a half a mile, probably out of range of the ATT tower. He now has NET10 using ATT and has the same coverage.
Good luck and keep me posted please on this.
Thanks

I don't wunt page plus i need to be able to use on verizons prepayed network... can the i535 be flashed to prepayed verizon.. or is there some way to use a verizon sim to get prepayed please let me know thank you
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