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So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. Unlocking the bootloader is needed to flash CWM and SU. I have read many many things about NANDROID, how is NANDROID different from CWM?
So I guess my next question is: How does one remove SU? In the process of rooting and flashing CWM and ROMs I make a backup prior to going to deep... that Backup will have SU, I have unrooted, but SU is still on the phone and I cannot seem to remove it.
Another question is: where are the data files on the phone for apps like Plants vs Zombies? I would like to move them off my phone prior to root, though I'm not sure if that is possible (is it?).
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead

toonhead85 said:
So I have a I-9020A with at&t. I have rooted followed by flashing -su and roms instructions using instructions on the net. But after following that process and then going backwards (flashing stock w/ no root locking bootloader) I have realized after that I have more questions.
So first: Unlocking the Bootloader erases the phone. This process is needed to flash CWM (but not -su?). I have read many many things about NANDROID, but I have no idea what that is except a backup of a stock rom. When I power my phone off and press Vol up and power on then go to recovery I get an Android w/ a triangle with an exclamation and cant do anything at that point.
So I guess my next question is: How does one backup a stock rom (like you would using CMW) without rooting? or is there not a way and I should just except that when I root for the first time I should expect to loose everything and take off things like pics ect before hand.
The last question is: If I wanted to muck around with ICS and the source code, is it as simple as flashing the source as explained on the google site? because they make it sound rather easy.
Thanks for any and all help,
toonhead
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Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet

obsanity said:
Sounds like you should have read more.
When you open the bootloader (the lock) it will wipe your personal data off the phone (not SD storage). This just means you get it as if you just bought it from the store. There is no way around it but happens only once and you'll never have to do it again. Unless you lock it back
Once the bootloader is unlocked you can now flash a custom recovery such as CWM which will let you manage and back up your phone with whatever ROM you want/have.
Once recovery is on your device you also have to root the phone. For this you'll need a zip flashable file with the superuser apk and SU binary files. Flash it in recovery and you should be good to go.
The last step is to install a ROM of your choice. You can just run what the phone has and it will work fine and even take updates without a problem. However, every time you want to flash something you'll need to flash CWM again because the stock image flashes the default recovery on reboot. There is a file you can delete to prevent this from happening. I forgot the path so look around. However, I would recommend you flash a stock ROM which already comes loaded with good stuff and all other things are done for you Just stop by the development section and pick a ROM you like.
Naroid is just a backup.
Oh, and BTW, mocking around with ICS... I would leave that for later. First get your head around basic flashing/rooting stuff. Changing the source code requires knowledge of code and even phone hardware. I'm guessing it's not for you just yet
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i was going to write something similar. toonhead85 you should do a bit more research and reading before you start hacking on your phone. youve hearts in the right place, but youre not quite ready just yet. at least take small steps at first

A little more clarification or nandroid backups:
Nandroid is a specific type of backup of the phone's system files. I think that includes system rom and radio. I not sure if any data is included in the backup. You should make a nandroid backup of the stock rom bbefore you flash any custom roms. If something goes wrong with a rom flash or if you want to restore to a previous stock or custom rom, you can restore from the backups you have made. You create these nandroid backups by booting into recovery and selecting the backup option (I think maybe named backup and restore). Backups are usually found on your SD card, but you can copy them to your computer to save additional copies.
If you want to also backup apps, get a good backup program from the market. Two that I have used are Titanium Backup for Root and MyBackups for Root. They can backup and restore apps and data as well as system data.

Thanks for all of the amazing replys. I do know that I am not at the point where I wanna muck around in the system to much as this is my one and only phone. But I would like to at some point.
But something I wanna know is this: If in flash CWM, can I use it without root? Say to make a backup of the stock rom before flashing SU? I only ask because I am currently at work and can't test the idea.
Another question is this: I know how to get to the stock recovery, but from what I read you use the VOL UP to get the "Menu". When I push any (hardware) button I get nothing and the image being displayed is an Android with a triangle and there is an exclimation point in it. Any thoughts?

a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring

simms22 said:
a nandroid saves everything in your phone, just how it is at that moment. and when you restore it, your phone goes back to that very moment you made that nandroid backup. all your data remain. everything. its like you didnt do anything in between backing up and restoring
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and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?

toonhead85 said:
and you need root to use NANDROID? Or just an unlocked bootloader and to flash it over?
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unlocked bootloader

FANTASTIC!!! Thank you all so very much!!

simms22 said:
unlocked bootloader
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And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G

And CWM recovery.
You don't need root to backup but remember that when you reboot it will flash back to stock recovery (the triangle). You can simply repeat the adb command to flash CWM again.
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So I could flash unlock my bootloader > flash CWM > Make a backup and save it to my computer then when i reboot my phone it would automatically reflash the stock recovery? and if this is correct, then all i would need to do is flash CWM to restore the saved backup?
So here's a question, is it the action of flashing SU that keeps the phone from removing CWM and reinstalling stock recovery?

You must rename the /system/etc/install-recovery.sh file or it will keep replacing the stock recovery. See this post, item 2.

[Q] Uber noob stuck and scared

So I've been reading these forums for days on end now before I touch my phone again. Is my order of things to do correct? (HTC One XL (AT&T))
1. Root
2. Supercid
3. Unlock bootloader
---Currently here---
4. Install CWM/make a backup
5. Relock bootloader
6. Flash a RUU (1.88?)
7. Unlock bootloader
8. Flash a rom
9. Enjoy
As shown above, I rooted, have su on my screen and I can get into the bootloader by vol down+power. I had a scare trying to install RUU 1.85 but I think it failed because my bootloader is unlocked?
Basically everything I do on my phone scares me now. I opened my bootloader today so I can see what stock recovery looked like. I got some weird icons that scared me. I cannot stay where I am because I cannot get OTA updates, and I cannot flash updates myself. HELP!
Thanks, people on this forum are awesome, but you all know too much to be able to write a proper noobs guide.

Valitri said:
So I've been reading these forums for days on end now before I touch my phone again. Is my order of things to do correct? (HTC One XL (AT&T))
1. Root
2. Supercid
3. Unlock bootloader
---Currently here---
4. Install CWM/make a backup
5. Relock bootloader
6. Flash a RUU (1.88?)
7. Unlock bootloader
8. Flash a rom
9. Enjoy
As shown above, I rooted, have su on my screen and I can get into the bootloader by vol down+power. I had a scare trying to install RUU 1.85 but I think it failed because my bootloader is unlocked?
Basically everything I do on my phone scares me now. I opened my bootloader today so I can see what stock recovery looked like. I got some weird icons that scared me. I cannot stay where I am because I cannot get OTA updates, and I cannot flash updates myself. HELP!
Thanks, people on this forum are awesome, but you all know too much to be able to write a proper noobs guide.
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Those steps are correct EXCEPT for 5, 6 and 7. You don't need those if you're flashing a custom rom, only if you're staying official and using an RUU. We can flash insecure boot.img files now which allow us to jump around firmware versions without blowing up. Just make sure you do a factory reset from recovery before flashing a new custom rom to prevent any weird bugs (you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps). Also, I would personally recommend flashing TWRP over CWM. It's a little more friendly in terms of UI and has a bit more functionality baked in.
Edit: And just FYI, the RUU did fail because your bootloader was unlocked. And now you know.

Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.

stnguyen09 said:
Those steps are correct EXCEPT for 5, 6 and 7. You don't need those if you're flashing a custom rom, only if you're staying official and using an RUU. We can flash insecure boot.img files now which allow us to jump around firmware versions without blowing up. Just make sure you do a factory reset from recovery before flashing a new custom rom to prevent any weird bugs (you can use Titanium Backup to backup all your apps). Also, I would personally recommend flashing TWRP over CWM. It's a little more friendly in terms of UI and has a bit more functionality baked in.
Edit: And just FYI, the RUU did fail because your bootloader was unlocked. And now you know.
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Thanks for confirming why the RUU failed. I was scared because it never said it failed or errored. I let it run for 90+ minutes and finally did a hard reset on my phone.
I downloaded Titanium but I don't understand where the backups go. How to save them or how to use them for recovery. I also don't understand how people talk about this phone having an SD card when it doesn't.
I saw TWRP and it looked like the better option but I thought a lot of the roms needed CWM to flash from. I guess I really don't fully understand how to flash a rom then.
This is so weird because I jailbroke my iPhone 3g, and tried multiple roms on my cousins Droid X a long time ago.
Easy question. If you stick with roms, any reason to ever relock the bootloader?
Thanks

Lilshaun said:
Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.
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I'm on 1.73
As the previous poster said, if I want custom roms I shouldn't even bother with the RUU? Is the RUU just a way to get the most updated factory settings because of root? Also do RUUs cancel root?

Valitri said:
Thanks for confirming why the RUU failed. I was scared because it never said it failed or errored. I let it run for 90+ minutes and finally did a hard reset on my phone.
I downloaded Titanium but I don't understand where the backups go. How to save them or how to use them for recovery. I also don't understand how people talk about this phone having an SD card when it doesn't.
I saw TWRP and it looked like the better option but I thought a lot of the roms needed CWM to flash from. I guess I really don't fully understand how to flash a rom then.
This is so weird because I jailbroke my iPhone 3g, and tried multiple roms on my cousins Droid X a long time ago.
Easy question. If you stick with roms, any reason to ever relock the bootloader?
Thanks
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1. You never need to relock the bl unless you're RUU'ing
2. TWRP and CWM do the same thing, what you can do with one you can pretty much assume you can do with the other
3. Titanium Backup (I refer to it as TiBu) stores the backup files on your phone in a Titanium Backup folder on your sd card. You use the TiBu app itself to batch restore your apps. So this mean you're gonna have to redownload it manually from the Play Store after a factory wipe. You also have the option or restoring your apps with data and also restoring system data. In my experience, restoring system data is always a bad idea and will cause weird behavior. Restoring app data also sometimes has weird consequences, depending on the app, so I usually just restore my apps without data and individually restore data to apps I know will have no issue and are a pain to set up again.
4. We refer to it as an sd card because it technically still is one, just soldered onto the board.
5. Yes, RUU will get rid of root. It returns your phone to its factory state (except it doesn't touch your user data)
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Lilshaun said:
Are you on 1.85 already? If so you are set. But if you aren't, relock the downloader by connecting your phone to your computer via USB in fastboot and typing fastboot OEM lock, upgrade to 1.85 and then unlock the bootloader once again.
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Upgrading to 1.85 isn't necessary since we can flash boot.img and jump between versions

Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.

Valitri said:
Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.
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You can have TiBu sync to a Dropbox, Google Drive, or Box account too. The scheduling feature is real nice. I have mine running the 2 default scheduled backup tasks every morning at 6am and then automatically uploading to Google Drive provided that I am plugged in and on WiFi.
I have it run every morning just in case I do something stupid during the day.
Oh and make sure to watch your internal storage space. CWM/TWRP backups take up A LOT of space, around 1GB (that's off the top of my head, I know it's around there somewhere). Manage your backups carefully, deleting ones you don't need.

you dont need to bootloader unlock before you upgrade to 1.85. just get the unlock code and then, with a locked bootloader, update RUU to 1.85. then afterwards unlock bootloader with unlock code.bin.

Valitri said:
Thank you. I will run a backup from titanium and download it to my computer. Then I will flash TWRP, then try some roms.
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Titanium is just for backing up apps not the entire phone. Sorry if you knew that, it just sounded like you didn't.
You need to flash TWRP and do a backup with it. This will backup your entire phone. In case you ever run into issues you know that you have a backup of your phone from when it was fully functional. This stays on your phone and if you ever need to restore it you do so from within TWRP.

pside15 said:
Titanium is just for backing up apps not the entire phone. Sorry if you knew that, it just sounded like you didn't.
You need to flash TWRP and do a backup with it. This will backup your entire phone. In case you ever run into issues you know that you have a backup of your phone from when it was fully functional. This stays on your phone and if you ever need to restore it you do so from within TWRP.
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Right, think of a TWRP/CWM backup as the equivalent of a Windows System Restore Point or a Mac Time Machine Backup. It's pretty much a snapshot of your system that you can jump back to in order to revert anything you did that screwed things up.

[Q] KGS1992 Utility error

This post should be inside of this thread, but I do not have 10 posts so I cannot post in the Dev forum
I own a Sensation (4G) and achieved S-OFF with HTCDev and Juopunutbear wire method. I then installed KGS1992 Utility to my desktop (wasn't working when installed in Program Files) and made sure all other windows were closed. I successfully used the utility to install 4EXT recovery. I then tried to Root and this is what happened [screenshot attached]:
On my phone it opens the recovery, opens another program (rooting tools by mike1986), and reboots my phone to the normal screen. I then hit [Enter] because the installation looked complete. The KGS1992 utility prompted me again if I'm sure the installation was completed. I hit [Enter] again but received the error:
"goto was unexpected at this time"
Am I good to go? It seems as though the installation was complete. I haven't closed the command prompt window, and haven't disconnected my phone since the incident. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
EDIT:
Just checked with a root checker app on the marketplace and it says that I do not have root.

Hi
What do you intend to do with your phone? If you want to install a custom ROM, then forget about rooting. You have s-off plus 4ext recovery; and custom ROMs are normally pre-rooted.
Otherwise, try simply rooting your stock ROM with ERoot, a program for windows.
Sent from whatever isn't something to be locked at, the thing is that it is sent.

ashkan-khatar said:
Hi
What do you intend to do with your phone? If you want to install a custom ROM, then forget about rooting. You have s-off plus 4ext recovery; and custom ROMs are normally pre-rooted.
Otherwise, try simply rooting your stock ROM with ERoot, a program for windows.
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I am very new to rooting, but I've been reading threads for a while now trying to understand. And yeah, I would like to install a custom ROM.
Thank you for the help, I am fairly sure I understand now. Is my understanding right that I can go into 4EXT, make a backup of my current factory ROM, download a custom ROM, and replace factory with custom. If this is right, I'll browse for which custom ROM I want now I dislike the factory bloat.

gpops said:
I am very new to rooting, but I've been reading threads for a while now trying to understand. And yeah, I would like to install a custom ROM.
Thank you for the help, I am fairly sure I understand now. Is my understanding right that I can go into 4EXT, make a backup of my current factory ROM, download a custom ROM, and replace factory with custom. If this is right, I'll browse for which custom ROM I want now I dislike the factory bloat.
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Yeah, that's exactly the way.
Sent from whatever isn't something to be locked at, the thing is that it is sent.

[Q] So I got the OnePlus One. What next?

I was using an iphones for 3 years and learnt all about jailbreaking and unlocking and then I made a switch to android in 2013. I got myself a nexus 4 and stock android was good enough for me and I used my nexus 4 till it gave up very recently. With the nexus 4 I never really cared about rooting the phone for whatever reasons and now with the Oneplus I am very interested to start customizing it. The only problem is my knowledge on rooting phones, flashing, custom roms and kernels are 0. I don't even know what people mean by those things. Yes, a complete noob but I can learn pretty quickly and follow instructions well. So where do I start now?
Any help is appreciated.

First thing to do is unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then make a backup of your stock ROM. From there you can root your stock ROM or you can flash a custom ROM, or you can just leave it as is. But the most important thing is to unlock your bootloader now, before you really start using the device because it wipes all user data during the unlock process. I have a guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
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I was like you a couple of months back. I'll tell you this, before you start anything make sure you do a back up. That's the most important thing. From there on you can do whatever your heart desires. As my friend above has stated unlock the boot loader, install a custom recovery and you're ready to go.unlocking the boot loader will allow you to install a custom recovery. You need the custom recovery to flash zip files such as ROMs and kernels etc. I hope this helped !
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Thank you guys! That helped.

timmaaa said:
First thing to do is unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP recovery, then make a backup of your stock ROM. From there you can root your stock ROM or you can flash a custom ROM, or you can just leave it as is. But the most important thing is to unlock your bootloader now, before you really start using the device because it wipes all user data during the unlock process. I have a guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
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So I did as it said on the video by xda developers. I did everything and the phone seems to be working fine except for the fact that it isn't rooted properly. I download ROM Toolbox and it gave me a warning message saying no root access found. Then I downloaded Root Checker from playstore and verified my root and it says my phone hasn't been rooted properly.
I manually rooted my phone by using TWRP custom recovery + SuperSU.
Edit: Did a clean up within SuperSU & installed it again using google play and now it works properly. The only thing that was different this time I was prompted to install the binries which I wasn't asked to when I used TWRP to install SuperSu.

[Q] So I got the OnePlus One. What next?
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Enjoy it It's a great phone, take it easy read, read and read again BEFORE doing anything. Make sure you have the right files for the right phone. Always do a backup before doing any changes.

Bootloader Unlock and OTA

I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader (well I will eventually, it just depends on how long I can last without root), but I've forgotten, is it still possible to take OTA's after you unlock your bootloader?
Thanks

Probably not.

Why shouldn't he be able to. Up until now the last four HTC devices M7, M8, M9, and 10 all received OTA updates even though the bootloader has been unlocked. There's just one new thing which startet with the change to Block-Based-OTA updates. An OTA won't install as soon as you change anything on the system partition (meaning that even mounting r/w in TWRP causes this!), due to a change in its md5 checksum.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Why shouldn't he be able to. Up until now the last four HTC devices M7, M8, M9, and 10 all received OTA updates even though the bootloader has been unlocked. There's just one new thing which startet with the change to Block-Based-OTA updates. An OTA won't install as soon as you change anything on the system partition (meaning that even mounting r/w in TWRP causes this!), due to a change in its md5 checksum.
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Wait, so if I flash magisk, I won't be able to take OTA?
Dang. If I just flash the stock recovery, will everything work, or will I have to restore to stock and take the OTA, then re-root?

When you unlock, then flash TWRP, first thing you do is Keep System Read Only. Then make a backup of System Image, boot image. When its time for OTA. restore system image, boot img and flash stock recovery. Reboot and then take OTA. You can now fastboot boot TWRP from download mode to make a backup of stock recovery(before flashing TWRP).

schmeggy929 said:
When you unlock, then flash TWRP, first thing you do is Keep System Read Only. Then make a backup of System Image, boot image. When its time for OTA. restore system image, boot img and flash stock recovery. Reboot and then take OTA. You can now fastboot boot TWRP from download mode to make a backup of stock recovery(before flashing TWRP).
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Since TWRP can flash OTAs (firmware part of OTAs needs to be flashed separately via fastboot), restoring (and backing up) stock recovery is not mandatory.

Do you think Sunshine will come to U 11 or it's un-crackable?

schmeggy929 said:
When you unlock, then flash TWRP, first thing you do is Keep System Read Only. Then make a backup of System Image, boot image. When its time for OTA. restore system image, boot img and flash stock recovery. Reboot and then take OTA. You can now fastboot boot TWRP from download mode to make a backup of stock recovery(before flashing TWRP).
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Thanks! For some reason though, when I tried to fastboot boot twrp, it would flash successfully but hang on the rebooting part. I have no idea what was going on. Pretty frustrating.

No laughing now- I'm on an old Galaxy s4 & U11 seems like my next device, VZW is too much & Sprint has a 1yr free program. I have rooted B4, & used Odin, but I got into other things & I don't recall how Fastbooting works… PLS help the once again Fastbooy noob & explain. Since the Sprint program requires you bring an already-paid-for 'bring your own phone' this is a BIG up front investment & I can't imagine going w/out Root/TitaniumBU/ or twrp to save images to pull my coals out of potential fires… TIA, oldwolf

IMHO, fastboot commands and such to get TWRP installed is waaaaaaay easier and faster than ODIN. I actually try every few phone generations to use a samsung device, but the pains of doing updates and such through odin isn't worth it to me. Pretty much you can unlock your phone through HTC.dev and then with the bootloader unlocked you can load your own recovery like TWRP. they walk you through all the steps and everything.

tacotoy, thanks for the reply; but what constitutes a FB command, & fm what program & in what status of android boot is it run? tia, oldwolf

Yeah, lost... New VZW OTA out today, but since I'm unlocked with TWRP, won't install. Trying to find the zip in the cache so that TWRP can install it, no joy so far, re-reading the TWRP thread.
Edit: Found path: /data/data/com.htc.updater/files/OTA_OCEAN_WHL_N71_SENSE90GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.11.617.4-1.11.617.3_R2_release_.zip
Fails, says system modified, even after restore to stock.

deafmetal1 said:
Yeah, lost... New VZW OTA out today, but since I'm unlocked with TWRP, won't install. Trying to find the zip in the cache so that TWRP can install it, no joy so far, re-reading the TWRP thread.
Edit: Found path: /data/data/com.htc.updater/files/OTA_OCEAN_WHL_N71_SENSE90GP_NA_Gen_Unlock_1.11.617.4-1.11.617.3_R2_release_.zip
Fails, says system modified, even after restore to stock.
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Did you check to keep system read only before restoring the backup?

oldwolf613 said:
tacotoy, thanks for the reply; but what constitutes a FB command, & fm what program & in what status of android boot is it run? tia, oldwolf
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just google Minimal ADB and Fastboot. Download the lastest and place all your zips and images in that folder. It is a standalone program easy and pain free.

Schmeggy929, thanks, that's easy enuf, but since this is gonna be (hopefully) my 'bring your phone'
to Sprint to get the free years worth of service- it's gotta be bought outright & while it's a good investment, I cannot afford to brick it & I'd rather look like a noob again than NOT ask…

I just used the latest RUU that OBJ posted in the Collection Post. This time I'll make sure to do the initial TWRP recovery in read-only... HTC noob...