So the Forge TV was presented at CES and I'm pretty interested at his ability to stream game from the pc, even if it's not an high-end one. But the software use for the stream, Razer Cortex: Stream, will cost 40$ which I find pretty annoying. Let's hope that it can be install on the Nexus Player. And maybe with the introduction of this device it will give abump to the development of AndroidTV which is on the neutral. Any thoughs?
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So the Forge TV was presented at CES and I'm pretty interested at his ability to stream game from the pc, even if it's not an high-end one. But the software use for the stream, Razer Cortex: Stream, will cost 40$ which I find pretty annoying. Let's hope that it can be install on the Nexus Player. And maybe with the introduction of this device it will give abump to the development of AndroidTV which is on the neutral. Any thoughs?
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It might give it a bump, just like Sony's, Sharp's, and Phillips' TVs. Also, you can bet that Steam's streaming will work on Android TV.
I'm not interested in the Razer Cortex, though, because it will likely break due to Razer's commitment to manufacturing quality hardware.
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So the Forge TV was presented at CES and I'm pretty interested at his ability to stream game from the pc, even if it's not an high-end one. But the software use for the stream, Razer Cortex: Stream, will cost 40$ which I find pretty annoying. Let's hope that it can be install on the Nexus Player. And maybe with the introduction of this device it will give abump to the development of AndroidTV which is on the neutral. Any thoughs?
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Limelight (free on Play Store) works perfectly for streaming PC games to my TV via the Nexus Player. FYI. It taps into the Nvidia API used by the Shield devices, so you do need an Nvidia card to use it... but it works great.
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Limelight (free on Play Store) works perfectly for streaming PC games to my TV via the Nexus Player. FYI. It taps into the Nvidia API used by the Shield devices, so you do need an Nvidia card to use it... but it works great.
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I know this option but it works only with GTX cards (600 and up) and mine is a GT 750m.
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So the Forge TV was presented at CES and I'm pretty interested at his ability to stream game from the pc, even if it's not an high-end one. But the software use for the stream, Razer Cortex: Stream, will cost 40$ which I find pretty annoying. Let's hope that it can be install on the Nexus Player. And maybe with the introduction of this device it will give abump to the development of AndroidTV which is on the neutral. Any thoughs?
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I agree that the $40 price is annoying but razer is a company and unless you want them to come out with their own App store (i dont want that) then they need to make their money other ways.
$40 for Streaming Service
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
$80 for the Controller
$99 for the Device
$150 for Device and Controller
What im a bit concern with is that this is an ARM device and the Nexus Player is an Intel Device. which might cause some fragmentation. Plenty of apps that worked fine on the Ouya/Mojo/FireTV dont work on the Nexus Player. If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
Also im a bit curious with their reasoning for using a snapdragon processor instead of an Nvidia K1/X1 or going with an Intel chip espcially since Intel is one of their major investors.
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What im a bit concern with is that this is an ARM device and the Nexus Player is an Intel Device. which might cause some fragmentation. Plenty of apps that worked fine on the Ouya/Mojo/FireTV dont work on the Nexus Player.
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The majority of apps not "working" on the Nexus Player have to do more with availability (developer needs to flag it for Lollipop and/or Android TV compatibility) than x86 vs. ARM. Android's runtime handles the compatibility between x86 and ARM (hence why the ARM version of Kodi works just fine on the Nexus Player, among many other examples). Granted, there is a performance hit running ARM code on x86, but compatibility issues have largely been negated.
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Also im a bit curious with their reasoning for using a snapdragon processor instead of an Nvidia K1/X1 or going with an Intel chip espcially since Intel is one of their major investors.
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SOC cost. You're not getting a Tegra K1 box for $99, unless the OEM wants to forgo any profit. I'm willing to bet the profit margin on this box alone is fairly thin, with the majority of their profit being made up by accessories.
Sure, they could have probably sold a Tegra K1 box with 64GB of storage for about $179. However, people aren't spending more than $99 on a streaming box today. For that kind of price they want a legit console (Xbox 360 is $180/$250 retail for 4GB/500GB versions, PS3 is $200/$250 for 12GB/500GB).
And no, they can't sell a 500GB HDD-based Android TV for $250. Sony and MS sell their hardware at a well documented loss because they get a cut of EVERY game and licenced accessory sold for it. Razer isn't getting a cut of anything other than their own hardware.
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The majority of apps not "working" on the Nexus Player have to do more with availability (developer needs to flag it for Lollipop and/or Android TV compatibility) than x86 vs. ARM. Android's runtime handles the compatibility between x86 and ARM (hence why the ARM version of Kodi works just fine on the Nexus Player, among many other examples). Granted, there is a performance hit running ARM code on x86, but compatibility issues have largely been negated.
SOC cost. You're not getting a Tegra K1 box for $99, unless the OEM wants to forgo any profit. I'm willing to bet the profit margin on this box alone is fairly thin, with the majority of their profit being made up by accessories.
Sure, they could have probably sold a Tegra K1 box with 64GB of storage for about $179. However, people aren't spending more than $99 on a streaming box today. For that kind of price they want a legit console (Xbox 360 is $180/$250 retail for 4GB/500GB versions, PS3 is $200/$250 for 12GB/500GB).
And no, they can't sell a 500GB HDD-based Android TV for $250. Sony and MS sell their hardware at a well documented loss because they get a cut of EVERY game and licenced accessory sold for it. Razer isn't getting a cut of anything other than their own hardware.
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Snail Games Obox will be shipping with a Tegra K1. Starting price would be $100.
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Snail Games Obox will be shipping with a Tegra K1. Starting price would be $100.
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The Obox will be available in numerous configurations, of which a Tegra K1 was one option (they fail to specify if K1 or K1 Denver, which are two different SOCs). Also, this nugget followed:
Though retail prices aren't yet available, a representative said they could range from $99 to $499 depending on the model.
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I don't see them offering their highest end SOC in their cheapest model. Do you? Also, keep in mind that they announced that this is an Android box, not an Android TV device (just a note, as this comment has no bearing on your $99 Tegra STB comment).
However, it's a possibility that they could launch in China only at a conversion rate below $99. That's EASY to do given exchange rates and the fact that Chinese OEMs rarely pay hardware/software/codec licensing costs. Or, they could pull an Ouya. Remember, Ouya shocked everyone with their $99 Tegra 3-based STB...but by the time it hit widespread availability, Tegra 4 was already in full swing. Not so impressive. I just don't see Obox having a competitive $99 hardware option at mass retail availability within 1 sales quarter of the Razer Forge TV.
In time, we'll see if you're right. I hope that you are, but suspect that you're not.
The only think appealing to me about this device is the 16gb storage, the qualcomm processor on it is lacking compared to the Intel 64 Bit processor, soon enough we'll have good app2sd and this wont be an issue
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The only think appealing to me about this device is the 16gb storage, the qualcomm processor on it is lacking compared to the Intel 64 Bit processor, soon enough we'll have good app2sd and this wont be an issue
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Really, for game streaming all the work is being done on the PC and you're just receiving a video stream. I'm not sure there will be much a difference between the 805 and intel CPU. I have the 805 on my Turbo and use limelight it works great over wifi (AC 433). I imagine it will be just as good or better over gigabit. I am curious to see how AC is implemented though. Like I said the 805 on my Turbo connects at 433mbps or if the use a better implementation at 867mbps like the NP.
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What does everyone thing about the HP TouchPad? I'm hoping it does well. It certainly has the specs and price point down. I am considering buying one to try out and compare against my Galaxy Tab when it releases.
I would have seriously considered it if it had more video playback support than Tegra2.
Specs:
TouchPad
Color: Black
Operating System: HP webOS
Display: 9.7-inch XGA capacitive, multitouch screen with an 18-bit color,1024x768 resolution display
Video formats: MPEG-4, H.263, H.264
Memory: Choose either 16GB or 32GB internal storage
Battery: Rechargeable 6300 mAh (typical battery)
Connector: Charger/microUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed
Speakers: Internal stereo speakers and Beats Audio
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-CPU APQ8060 1.2GHz
Dimensions: Width: 190mm (7.48 inches)
Height: 240mm (9.45 inches)
Thickness: 13.7mm (0.54 inches)
Weight: Approximately 740 grams (1.6 pounds)
HP WebOS isn't my thing.
Wow, there's literally no interest in this tablet.
Interested. But probably will not purchase. Web os is my favorite OS, but the lack of apps and solid hardware hurt. That might change though.
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Hmm :C
I would I've never owned any webos thingy before but i can't :C
Sorry.... Good luck with it btw C:
I'm looking forward to having a play with one. The majority of people didn't go much on the PlayBook, I quite like it except for the need to tether with a BB for e-mail.
I enjoyed WebOS thoroughly when I was using the Palm devices, and it should scale exceptionally well to a tablet, especially the multi-tasking cards. I do agree with what was said before though, lack of apps hurts.
Still, I'll get one for a look Are you doing the same OP?
i like what i seen so far from web os we will see when get it in hands
I'm definitely interested and hope it does well! Competition is good. I am looking forward to play with it before I go out and waste $$$
It was rumored that this one would allow Android apps. Probably false, but that'd be pretty cool. I've never strayed from Android, but am a little bored with HC and how empty it can sometimes feel. Don't get me wrong, it's a great platform, just with a very beta feel to it still.
HP's WebOS is a cheap android knockoff. they're attempting to use android's popularity to sell an almost nonfunctional product, and only ignorant shmucks will fall for it.
At least, that's how I see it.
Depends on the cost
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HP's WebOS is a cheap android knockoff. they're attempting to use android's popularity to sell an almost nonfunctional product, and only ignorant shmucks will fall for it.
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While I'm happy with Honeycomb (v3.1), I believe that WebOS (purchased from Palm) may pre-dates any Android Tablet OS. Android knockoff? Unlikely. What about the other way around? Potentially.
I do think they're going after the wrong market though if they're targeting the the whole world. They need to focus on the mostly unserved enterprise market alone IMO.The iPad is limited, the Playbook is a flop, Android has fragmented Exchange / VPN support, etc and so then what's left in the Tablet space after that? Not much.
Forget the consumer HP. Realize that too few of them will choose your device over an iPad or Android Tablet. The enterprise space needs a RIM replacement, you could be that solution if only you positioned yourself as such. With those prices, who do you expect to appeal to now until your shortcomings are dealt with (if ever)? Again all my opinion. Anyone else agree?
I see the TouchPad supports a keyboard but does it also support a pointing device like HC v3.1 does?
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HP's WebOS is a cheap android knockoff. they're attempting to use android's popularity to sell an almost nonfunctional product, and only ignorant shmucks will fall for it.
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How? They look nothing alike! Even from the beginning, WebOS and Android had nothing in common aside from both being linux based.
I think webOS is great. It's just lacking apps.
I love my Xoom and can't wait to see what ICS brings
I have the Transformer and I still don't fee the need for a tablet. I just whip out the phone for casual stuff. PalmOS is nice, but no apps.
I Have a Similar Pole Here Requesting for an HP TouchPad Section!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15405942#post15405942
Not really...i saw a review, it looks like it hangs at times, the os is just too young i guess...maybe we'll see something good in the future
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Good to know.
I like the tablet a lot, it has some good stuff, but I'm kind of regretting the ARM chip inside since I can't really install much, only what is on the Microsoft store. I suppose I could wait a bit and see if apps come out. Anyone buy a Win8 Tablet with an intel processor? Which did you buy?
edit: meh, as I play, i'm liking it more. It could be great for the business world, I know my workplace would LOVE these since everything is networked. But the price is a bit much for this tablet, anyone know of any cheaper arm win 8 tablets?
RT isn't the best for a domain environment. If you like the current surface, I'd wait and see what Win 8 Pro tablets start showing up on the market. You'll find that they will be better suited for a network environment as they will have domain join and security features that the RT tablets can't provide.
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I like the tablet a lot, it has some good stuff, but I'm kind of regretting the ARM chip inside since I can't really install much, only what is on the Microsoft store. I suppose I could wait a bit and see if apps come out. Anyone buy a Win8 Tablet with an intel processor? Which did you buy?
edit: meh, as I play, i'm liking it more. It could be great for the business world, I know my workplace would LOVE these since everything is networked. But the price is a bit much for this tablet, anyone know of any cheaper arm win 8 tablets?
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I think for the most part OEM's and MS will run close together on price, so unless you hit a store sale somewhere in future, it will be standard price.
If you give it time, I am sure you will find a China made clone RT with less then legal copies, but there you run risks, and you will get no official support.
There again it could end up being a poor copy of Android with a Win 8 skin.
I hate to say it ( no pun intended), but something should surface soon
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I like the tablet a lot, it has some good stuff, but I'm kind of regretting the ARM chip inside since I can't really install much, only what is on the Microsoft store. I suppose I could wait a bit and see if apps come out. Anyone buy a Win8 Tablet with an intel processor? Which did you buy?
edit: meh, as I play, i'm liking it more. It could be great for the business world, I know my workplace would LOVE these since everything is networked. But the price is a bit much for this tablet, anyone know of any cheaper arm win 8 tablets?
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It seems like something changed on Amazon. I just watched an Amazon Prime video on the Desktop IE10 on the Surface RT. The RT version still gives the same "flash needs to be updated" as yesterday.
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It seems like something changed on Amazon. I just watched an Amazon Prime video on the Desktop IE10 on the Surface RT. The RT version still gives the same "flash needs to be updated" as yesterday.
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Tried it again, I think it's "working". Amazon instant video has been laggy lately, and doesn't even load the video on my desktop at times. So I think it's their side, DDOS attack or server problems.
Still miss chrome/tab sync. And all my extensions. Hopefully something will come soon...
I am not having any issues so far either with the Amazon streaming vids. I need to use the prime video service more. I always forget about it.
I'm sorry but I can never figure Google out? So they seem to discontinue the device then continue to give it all the latest and greatest updates? The Nexus player fills a nitch as thou I love my Shield Android TV I really do not want to shell out the $200.00 for a second one for the bedroom. The price point at least made the Nexus Player a strong contender for the entry level customers to Android TV and offered a product which could compete with Roku and Fire TV within that $100.00 range. So for mere speculation do any of you see another product in the works to fill the empty space the current Nexus Player is leaving? The Chromecast is a nice product but surely not a replacement for the Nexus Player.
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I'm sorry but I can never figure Google out? So they seem to discontinue the device then continue to give it all the latest and greatest updates? The Nexus player fills a nitch as thou I love my Shield Android TV I really do not want to shell out the $200.00 for a second one for the bedroom. The price point at least made the Nexus Player a strong contender for the entry level customers to Android TV and offered a product which could compete with Roku and Fire TV within that $100.00 range. So for mere speculation do any of you see another product in the works to fill the empty space the current Nexus Player is leaving? The Chromecast is a nice product but surely not a replacement for the Nexus Player.
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You are basically asking for speculation on what Google plans to do with their place in the set-top-box market.
.... They will do what they must to maintain their place = new nexus player. Eventually
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Amazon Firestick works for me. Too many problems with the Nexus player freezing up.
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I'm sorry but I can never figure Google out? So they seem to discontinue the device then continue to give it all the latest and greatest updates? The Nexus player fills a nitch as thou I love my Shield Android TV I really do not want to shell out the $200.00 for a second one for the bedroom. The price point at least made the Nexus Player a strong contender for the entry level customers to Android TV and offered a product which could compete with Roku and Fire TV within that $100.00 range. So for mere speculation do any of you see another product in the works to fill the empty space the current Nexus Player is leaving? The Chromecast is a nice product but surely not a replacement for the Nexus Player.
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Fact is that there isn't a replacement. None measure up in all aspects. Some work like Amazon Fire TV/Stick and Roku. But the Nexus doesn't have limits and has long term support via Google or the Community. Full android, Xposed, Eliminating Ads*, sideloading ALL apks, latest Android version and all around future proofing makes for an experience unmatched by any other set-top box besides a Shield TV. Even the Hardware is better than the others and can handle x265. As well as OTG support for external hdd, mouse/keyboard, webcam, ethernet adapters. Even the bluetooth more open.
Part of me wants to get a 2nd NP but I already have 2 Chromecast. So I'm waiting for the 2nd Gen.
*Screw ads and the moral dilemma others claim. I pay for paid versions of every app applicable and support developers. I don't however want my content and viewing experience interrupted by other things.
I've had the Nvidia Shield K1 tablet for about two years now and it's by far one of my favorite Android devices. The build is solid, premium, and durable. The speakers are great and the display still holds its own. Even now, many years after it's original release, this tablet is a powerhouse when handling most Android apps and a joy to game on. Despite its lack of selection, I've been very pleased with the GeForce Now streaming service and I like to know that GameStream is available whenever I invest in a PC upgrade. It handles supported Android games like a champ and I'm rooted for the sole purpose of PS4 remote play, which usually runs better than on my PS Vita (and with a native controller!)
I've been waiting years for it's proper successor (since before I even bought one) and have been dealt a number of blows.
First of all, I'm extremely disappointed that Nvidia's gaming services haven't branched out to any other devices. To my knowledge, even the Pixel C doesn't support the GeForce gaming app despite running on Nvidia hardware.
I remember reading that development on the second generation of Shield tablets was halted for Nvidia to work with Nintendo on the Switch. Despite not being a huge Nintendo fan in recent years, I'd happily trade in my K1 for a Switch if it had any additional tablet functionality at all. However, my understanding is that they have yet to even add video streaming services, much less the capacity to function as a student/work laptop like my Shield does.
Overall I'm upset to see the decline of Android tablets in general. From the Nexus 7 to the Nvidia Shield, $200-400 tablets were finally proving to be capable devices when the market dried up. Now Google seems to be confirming the death of Android tablets by replacing them with overpriced and under-delivering Chrome OS devices, which I have no affinity for.
Now that my Shield is starting to show it's age, where do I turn for a quality portable gaming device with web and app functionality? My options seem to be:
a) Buy a Switch, enjoy the games, hope for an update that adds more media and web functionality
b) Pixel C from eBay (does anyone own both of these devices that can offer a comparison, especially when it comes to gaming?)
c) Something way overpriced like a Surface Pro or iPad (which isn't gonna happen anytime soon but seems closest to what I'm looking for in the current market)
Are there any alternatives that I'm overlooking? Thanks!
I've been struggling with this myself - what tablet to get next. I'm not necessarily in a hurry to replace my Shield right away. But something snappier (more current gen processor) would be nice. And I have a few hairline cracks in the screen, which aren't always too noticeable, but obviously a replacement is due at some point. But what? There really isn't much out there. The gaming aspect of the Shield is cool. Although I have to admit I don't use it as much as I thought I would. Gaming is probably not deal breaker for me; but rather I use a tablet mainly for media consumption and general web browsing.
My thoughts on the options you listed, plus some of my own:
- I dislike the Apple ecosystem, as they seem more bent on telling folks what they want; instead of listening to, and actually giving them what they want.
- Pixel C is too old to invest in. Not any newer then the Shield. And I loathe to spend good money on old tech. Form what I understand, the Pixel C is retired and basically end of life (EOL) as far as Google is concerned. So again, a bad choice to put your money.
- MS Surface looks nice. But too expensive for what I use a tablet for (mostly media consumption, web browsing).
- Huawei seems to be one of the few companies committed to making Android tablets with a decent build quality. The M3 looks like a nice tablet, from a build quality aspect. But reviews comment that the processor performance, while fine for media consumption, is lackluster with games. The upcoming refreshed version M5 (they are supposedly skipping M4 since "4" is a bad luck number in Chinese culture) looks to improve the CPU performance. But the lack of a headphone jack is both puzzling for a tablet, and probably a deal breaker for me.
- Samsung Tab S3 looks nice, but very expensive still ($450, released at $600) and probably due from a refresh soon. Although that price point, might scare me away from it's successor! As it did for the S3 when it came out.
- ASUS Zenpad 3S gets good reviews in some places as the best (or at least, one of the best) Android tablet you can get right now. Build quality, while nice looking, is apparently not quite up to par (a little "creaky") with iPad or maybe Huawei. But it has a great screen, and decent processor performance. Again, we are probably due for a refresh (released Aug 2016). So I'm hesitant to spend money on something from almost 2 years ago.
- Apple dropped prices on the iPad to $329 (32 GB) version last year (and same for this years version). It's a great value for a high quality tablet. As mentioned, I'm not going to switch to the iOS ecosystem. But Android tablet makers may (probably) be forced to match quality and price, and that may be a good thing for us. Releasing a tablet like the Zenpad for $300, with slightly questionable build quality is probably not going to cut it. On a similar note, a new Samsung (S4?) without much more functionality than an iPad, selling for $600 is not justified, either.
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I've been struggling with this myself - what tablet to get next. I'm not necessarily in a hurry to replace my Shield right away. But something snappier (more current gen processor) would be nice. And I have a few hairline cracks in the screen, which aren't always too noticeable, but obviously a replacement is due at some point. But what? There really isn't much out there. The gaming aspect of the Shield is cool. Although I have to admit I don't use it as much as I thought I would. Gaming is probably not deal breaker for me; but rather I use a tablet mainly for media consumption and general web browsing.
My thoughts on the options you listed, plus some of my own:
- I dislike the Apple ecosystem, as they seem more bent on telling folks what they want; instead of listening to, and actually giving them what they want.
- Pixel C is too old to invest in. Not any newer then the Shield. And I loathe to spend good money on old tech. Form what I understand, the Pixel C is retired and basically end of life (EOL) as far as Google is concerned. So again, a bad choice to put your money.
- MS Surface looks nice. But too expensive for what I use a tablet for (mostly media consumption, web browsing).
- Huawei seems to be one of the few companies committed to making Android tablets with a decent build quality. The M3 looks like a nice tablet, from a build quality aspect. But reviews comment that the processor performance is a bit spotty. And the lack of a headphone jack is both puzzling for a tablet, and probably a deal breaker for me.
- Samsung Tab S3 looks nice, but very expensive still ($450, released at $600) and probably due from a refresh soon. Although that price point, might scare me away from it's successor! As it did for the S3 when it came out.
- ASUS Zenpad 3S gets good reviews in some places as the best (or at least, one of the best) Android tablet you can get right now. Build quality, while nice looking, is apparently not quite up to par (a little "creaky") with iPad or maybe Huawei. But it has a great screen, and decent processor performance. Again, we are probably due for a refresh (released Aug 2016). So I'm hesitant to spend money on something from almost 2 years ago.
- Apple dropped prices on the iPad to $329 (32 GB) version last year (and same for this years version). It's a great value for a high quality tablet. As mentioned, I'm not going to switch to the iOS ecosystem. But Android tablet makers may (probably) be forced to match quality and price, and that may be a good thing for us. Releasing a tablet like the Zenpad for $300, with slightly questionable build quality is probably not going to cut it. On a similar note, a new Samsung (S4?) without much more functionality than an iPad, selling for $600 is not justified, either.
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I appreciate your feedback and agree with most of it, all of the competition is too old or way overpriced. Samsung is getting there, their phones look a lot nicer and their software skins are less obnoxious but their tablets look totally stuck in the past. ASUS and Huawei have been viable alternatives but never seemed to quite hit the mark. As an Android fanboy, I love the Pixel C but ultimately couldn't pull the trigger for the exact reasons you listed. Apple has a dictative and overly minimalist approach but that being said...
I actually jumped the shark a couple days ago and bought a 10.5" iPad Pro w/ the Apple Pencil! The price is fair and the device is definitely high quality. It's taking more getting used to than I thought but the note-taking is fantastic and the fact that is has Civ 6 is a big deal for me haha. Apparently it even has PS4 Remote Play apps which I have yet to try.
I think Android is more friendly and intuitive but I have a new appreciation for Apple's design and hardware. However, the app stores are a lot more similar than I thought. For some reason I expected more selection on iOS especially in exclusive games. In general, the "Top Charts" are very similar between iOS & Android and most iOS exclusive apps are paid for. The platform really seems built for someone that also has an iPhone, Homepod, Apple TV and Mac which I have none of (this is my first and only Apple device). Despite small complaints and frustrations, it's just a really pretty device that handles my needs very well once I identify a workflow.
Overall, it was a really foreign choice for me to make. I've had Windows PCs my whole life and have been on the Android train since the OG Droid. I still might return this model for the newer & cheaper 2018 iPad. If a new Pixel tablet were to drop tomorrow, I'm sure I'd trade for it in a heartbeat. But given the current tablet market, I'm happy with this investment.
Pretty much in the same boat. The shield is still very usable for what I want and need it to do (chess, chrome, youtube and pdf reading) but sooner or later it eventually will have to be replaced. Also, the major reason I started using it as a media consumption device are all the ram problems so little by little I got rid of most of the stuff (including google apps lol!) and ended up using it for its nice screen and speakers and not its strong chip, but I would be so happy if we were to ever see a follow up to the shield tablet (sadly that's not happening). Heck, I would pay double the price of the K1. It seems that android tablets are slowly losing to apple (of course I'm not talking about premium ultra expensive samsung tabs). One last hope for android tablets could be the Mi pad 4 from xiaomi when it releases and that's it. Though, there is this new tablet os google is working on, so maybe that will be enough to spark more interest in tablets once again so we can survive one more tablet generation
The issue is nvidia decided that tablet market was not strong enough and that they would not put out a replacement for our tablets. Unfortunately that is much the consensus for cheaper/under 9 in.
I would really like to see a x1 or x2 based tablet with oled 4k screen...
Nah... it's called the Nintendo Switch... nVidia is selling plenty of mobile chips without the headaches of their own tablet.
Hi Guys Just wanted to let you know you can check out geforce now which is currently in beta, It'll let you play any game, in any device
Mac
PC
Android(soon)
The cloud gaming service works like OnLive but way better, now is free play all you want. If you want to get in you need a beta key, If you don't have one you can get one on ebay, a seller probably has a few left.
I tried this since getting access this month and it's awesome, pretty cool, you can also plug in peripherals and controllers are supported, At least 25Mbps to play.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/mac-pc/
This is the cheapest seller I could find
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For the Android version, this is specifically targeted at 120FPS screen and large tablets with big screens, there is a back end support for controllers, peripherals, as well as a bluetooth devices.