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Has anybody seen this
Ipad Looking Andropad
The price is pretty cheap and has HDMi output. The seller seems to have good reviews too. Unfortunately I don't have enough spare money to try this out. But if anybody here is interested
Lot of chinese companies have shown interest in ANDROID devices, so I guess this was coming.
If its running 1.6 how does it have, "Browser comes with Flash Lite version 3.1 and supports playback of SWF contents up to Flash 9 and ActionScript 2.0"
Isn't that what the Hero's browser has?
It does look like a good device though
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mommy i know whaT i want for my birthday
Nice, though it's a rip-off and I would prefer a more expensive one that really has competitive hardware to the iPad.
Not sure I want Android on a Slate, though. I think I'll wait for the HP Slate, since I want to be productive on the thing.
But I would prefer this over an ebook reader.
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You ought to go over to the Entourage site to see my new enTourage eDGe! Look it up!
Sethos II said:
But I would prefer this over an ebook reader.
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Isn't that what the Nook is for?
I recently asked a similar question!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660767
guyjack said:
You ought to go over to the Entourage site to see my new enTourage eDGe! Look it up!
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Im looking for more of a tablet,not ebook reader..i'm not a fan of the clamshell-touchscreen shape..very odd device imo..
Also you guys should check out enso-now.com they sell the 'zenPad'..its a pretty cool 5'' android tablet starting at $155, you can add gps for $25 and it has decent hardware specs..
Does anybody know anything about the Rockchip processor in it? I read somewhere that it was an ARM9 processor. That would be pretty old and slow. Wikipedia says it's based on Cortex-A8.
I am placing an order for one of these this next week. I contacted a different seller and they said that there are a few different versions. I am getting one with all the specs on that page except 4 gig nand and 512 ram. Now hopefully someone that knows alot more than I do will start releasing roms for it so I can get it running the way my G1 is.
can you please post a link/price to the one you bought? I'd love to see custom roms for these...
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i would much rather support Google than apple i hate apple
Sethos II said:
Nice, though it's a rip-off and I would prefer a more expensive one that really has competitive hardware to the iPad.
Not sure I want Android on a Slate, though. I think I'll wait for the HP Slate, since I want to be productive on the thing.
But I would prefer this over an ebook reader.
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the hard ware on the one i saw ( and want) it a 1.2ghz, sorry to bring up an old thread but has anyone got one of these thinking of getting either this the ipad rip off or the other fully white one
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I receive this tablet, that cool, but just under android 1.5. 2gb flash memory. Autonomy not very large with wifi, but with no wifi that cool. With mp3 active I listen music about 3 hours and I past 100 % to 70 %, that cool.
Now I would like to past to 1.6 or 2.1, seller says me that will arrive but when I do not know (like him...).
So if dev can give support, I take it.
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I receive this tablet, that cool, but just under android 1.5. 2gb flash memory. Autonomy not very large with wifi, but with no wifi that cool. With mp3 active I listen music about 3 hours and I past 100 % to 70 %, that cool.
Now I would like to past to 1.6 or 2.1, seller says me that will arrive but when I do not know (like him...).
So if dev can give support, I take it.
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You sound foreign. As if you are the seller of this crappy 7 inch tablet (from HK).
Are you trying to save face after another poster said that the processor was ancient?
Your also trying to see if someone will hack away and make this tablet Android 2.1.
Fat Chance.
This processor would choke on Droid 2.1.
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I put in an order for one of these yesterday, I'm definitely interested to see how well it preforms. If it is a fairly obvious process I'll crack mine open and take some shots of the internals for you guys. I'm guessing it will take about 2 weeks shipping though so don't expect anything soon.
As for getting a newer kernel onto these I would happily offer any assistance I can.
I think the biggest issues for me are
Marketplace access
Video benchmarking (bitrates and container formats)
Uniformity of these devices. These are offered by a few hundred sellers under at least 4 names hopefully they all are identical hardware wise as it will make drivers easier to write.
slaming These have a 600MHz ARM core and a 550MHz DSP for video decoding. Some sellers are adding these together and rounding up to claim a 1.2GHz clock speed. Its an old and regrettable tactic.
arashed31 This is the product page for the Rockchip 2808 en.rock-chips.com/newEbiz1/EbizPortalFG/portal/html/ProductInfoExhibit.html?ProductInfoExhibit_ProductID=c373e9216b8b10d58f7e977394a65d1d&ProductInfoExhibit_isRefreshParent=false
Sorry can't post links my account isn't verified
Also mattrb you really need to take a chill pill "You sound foreign. As if you are the seller of this crappy 7 inch tablet (from HK)." is just about the most bigoted thing I've heard this week. The guy was being helpful telling you his experiences with battery endurance and you insult him, don't be childish.
BTW a little more info about the Rockchip 2808. From the research I have done it looks like this chip is based around the arm926 core. It isn't the fastest thing out there but it gets the job done. If the Rockchip version has onchip cache it should be quite decent indeed. Supposedly this core produces 220MIPs at 200MHz in the stock configuration so we should expect roughly 660MIPs at 600MHz. For comparison a Motorola Droid is based on the Cortex A8 at 600MHz which makes about 1200MIPs. The actual iPad uses the Cortex A9 core clocked at 1Ghz and produces about 2500MIPs (surely as we are without all of apple's crappy code we will have a serious advantage ). Also I have seen a few notes about a this chip being used in some devices at 886Mhz (google the Tongfang-q5). I doubt that there are different versions of the chip produced and I doubt even more the manufacturer would be overclocking the chip without some testing that it remained reliable. Hopefully this means we can squeeze some more cycles out of these tablets. This will obviously be at the expense of battery life and to some degree longevity. But at this price who cares *lmao*.
A little update: I confirmed that the Rockchip 2808 is a licensed ARM926EJ-S derivative wwwdotarm.com/community/partners/display_product/rw/ProductId/4010/ stupid link blocking
Second update: I just started a wikipedia page for the rockchip family. Any info you can provide would be most helpful. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockchip
Let us know how well it works. I might get one just to show off ppls with ipad.
White slate
I bought the white slaie (M001) yesterday. Spent around 60 minutes on it so far. I have a few isues, but hopefully tonight I will download and insdtall updated software. For 150.00, can't complain. That is what my ereader cost me in Dec, which I will probably now sell.
is this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Slim-Tabl...t=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item3a5a793c51
the same thing you guys are talking about?
If so £70 (price & delivery) seems ludicrously cheap. At that price even if it's not brilliant it's got to be worth it right?
My wife keeps asking me what I want for Christmas, and honestly, I think I want a Tablet. I don't really know why, but I love my HTC Hero so damn much that I think I would really like a larger, more powerful version (that can play 3D games, watch movies on, etc). I have seen a bunch of relatively inexpensive Android based pads on ebay, such as the Zenithink ZT-180 as well as many other cheaply made (looking) iPad clones. I'm not above getting one of these providing they actually work and don't just fall apart immediately.
Does anyone had any experience with these devices? How is the build quality/Android implementation? Is it worth getting one, or is it really worth the enormous price for the Samsung Galaxy Tab?
Thanks in advance!
Zeb
Doublepost I realise, but just to add another note, I've just been looking at the Archos 7 Internet Tablet, and it looks really good! Android 2.2, good build quality, capacitive touch screen (rather than resistive), multi touch, accelerometer... It definitely seems to tick all of the boxes! Only downside is the lack of Android Marketplace on the device (which I have read can be kinda hacked to add this separately).
Anyone tried one of these? Definately looking like the right device for me, as a lot fo the others don't support multi-touch, or they have resistive screens, etc. Plus Archos is a brand I know and I am confident that still means something.
Any comments or suggestions?
Zeb
I was just reading a Mobile magazine that compared a TONS of PADs. The one that struck my fancy was the "KMART" brand which is a 7" Android 2.1 800mhz tablet for about $149.
Thats dirt cheap and would probably get you where you need to go quite easily. Sure it isn't Froyo 2.2, but anyone with a Nexus knows that there isn't much different between the two.
EDIT: Found the Magazine, Maximum Tech, by Maximum PC. The Kmart PAD is a rebranded GenTouch78.
800×480 color TFT touch panel screen Resistive touch
CPU: 800 Mhz
Ram: DDR2 256mb
Internal Memory: 2GB
Expansion Slots: SD/MMC card slot up to 16GB
Wi-Fi Connectivity with Full Web Browsing Capability
Supports Ebook Formats: Text, PDF, E-PUB, HTML
Supports Media Formats: MP3, WMA, FLAC, AAC
Supports most popular E-Book formats
Picture Viewer in JPEG, BMP
Video Player
Rechargeable Lithium Battery
Carrying case included
http://www.talkandroid.com/7788-k-mart-offering-gentouch78-tablet-for-150/
Its listed as $179:
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_...o=1&blockType=G1&prdNo=1&i_cntr=1287775848825
@Above: My Co-Worker has an Archos (older one I think with 1.6 on it) and I've installed the Market and Maps and stuff no problem. If I remember correctly it was just a matter of downloading the APK and installing it.
The Archos listed in the Magazine is the Home 7 Tablet with Android 1.5... and a newer version released by the FCC called the Archos 32 with Android 2.1. No listing of it having 2.2 unless it has been updated since publication. It does say expected in October for about $150.
-800mhz A8
8gb of storage
3.2-inch 400x240 screen (yuck)
Great info! Thanks a lot! I have had a look at the Gentouch device, but the screen wasn't really what I was looking for, but then again, it is dirt cheap! Nice to hear that the Archos devices can be sideloaded easily enough, how did you find the overall build quality of the two?
what's the intended use?
You have to keep in mind that
... Gingerbread tablets will get released, soon
... Android is a mobile OS at the moment, which means not as powerful as the real Windows, thus only good for browsing the web, watching a movie, checking mails, but no work
... if you want to do some work you'll need Windows sooner or later (just take a look at Office, there are some apps for Android, like Documents to go, but it's not useful to create documents, rather view and do some minor changes
... if you want to take notes, then there is no possibility with Android at the moment. Lack of hardware (pen or keyboard), lack of software (like OneNote), lack of tools (like Handwriting recognition)
... really interesting tablets get released soon, regarding Android: Notion Ink Adam with great hardware and included software which should make their Android stand out from the android used on smartphones, regarding Windows 7: HP Slate, regarding WebOS: HP WebOS slate, regarding MeeGo: unknown
So better tell us your intended use.
If you just plan to do the same with the tablet you currently do with your smartphone, then take the cheapest tablet running Froyo.
I would use the tablet to do much the same things as I use my laptop for currently. Watching movies, listening to some music, playing the odd game and browsing the internet.
Admittedly, not having ANY productivity suite is a big downside, I hadn't thought about this really, but is there no app to remote desktop to a PC in the house? If it is possible to RDP/VNC to another PC, then this is no issue at all, if there isn't, surely one is on the way? I really don't want to pay the premium for a device powerful enough to run Windows 7 and have a lot of overhead taken by the OS, I don't think I need something as complex as a "full" OS like that. Plus I REALLY love android!
Watz up all, 1st time poster but I've been lurkin arounds these forums awhile now. The andriod pads are a geat idea for people with out the phone. I have a zio its does the job and actually does it pretty well.I would defiantley get a andriod touch pad but ONLY when there is a Ps2, N64 emulator! Like i said even my cheap zio does i all.
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PocketCloud is a great RDP app.
Still, just wait a few weeks, there aren't really great media tablets out there yet.
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Ok... I am a die hard NON apple kind of guy. My wife bought her Iphone a year ago leaving me and verizon to fend for ourselves. Then I suggested she buy a Mac book as she has been slamming windows for as long as we have been married. So, after loving angry birds on my Gtab for the past month, I thought, what a perfect gift for her (and me to compare) an IPAD would be. So I bought her one for Christmas.
I have to say, the screen really is fine. The lighter weight and the form factor is sweet too. But, to have to have an app (which they do have an app for everything many free for sure) to view most web sites in a "standard" mode such as to see video on them etc., I still can not see that. And, no add on memory and no real interface... the battle is on!
I will update you periodically as I try and see it from an Apple user perspective.
That IPS screen is very nice. Did some after Xmas shopping today and took another look at the iPad. It's the one thing that really stands out on the iPad, versus the GTab.
I know that, in time, Android tablets will catch up (Notion Ink? please don't be vaporware).
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That IPS screen is very nice. Did some after Xmas shopping today and took another look at the iPad. It's the one thing that really stands out on the iPad, versus the GTab.
I know that, in time, Android tablets will catch up (Notion Ink? please don't be vaporware).
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Hold off, since rumors of some form of USB, microsd, and additional camera functionality will not die in regard to iPad 2011 models.
I can not look at the iPad display, since I then have to reacclimate to G's dispaly. ..... ....
Man, just think of the Gtablet with at least a Galaxy Tab level display.....
Here's my guess on the iPad v2 - it will almost certainly have a camera. Makes sense for Facetime.
A USB port and / or a microSD slot would be a major shocker, so I highly doubt that would happen. It goes against the walled-garden approach that Apple loves so much.
I have been an iphone user for two years. You may heard this before but lack of flash of support equals COMPLETE FAIL as I an an avid news junkie and enjoy news clips.
Now if only Netflix and google can work out their differences and bring official support for streaming netflix to droid devices then I will be switching to droid in the spring when my phone contract is due for renewal.
PS, I have owned an apple PC and it would not run 1/5th the software that was available while the apple had software support for virtually NOTHING that I needed on the PC and couldn't get.
My brother and I had this same argument about a year ago where he was praising the superiority of the Mac, about a month later he embarrassingly admitted to me I was absolutely right about the Apple causing him to not have acess to most of the software out there.
At the time I bought my last Dell laptop I spec it out with the 2G Duo Core, a wireless N1 card, a Geforce mobile GT8600, a 7200spd hard drive and 2G of Ram. I went to the apple web site and spec' out the SAME configuration, it was over $1,000 MORE!
Same hardware, LESS software, nearly double the price.
Come on...how is that EVEN a contest? I have since upgraded that same laptop to Win 7 32b and it STILL runs like a champ (do you think that would have been the case with a macbook?)
By the way, my viewsonic (although a tad buggy at this time) was 25% cheaper than an ipad and the only real advantage I can see of the ipad was superior screen while it has weaker hardware, and I am 100% confident that the Droid 2.2 and coming honeycomb will equal or surpass the ipad in the coming year.
Gauntlet thrown, Apple failed.
I do love my iphone but I have physically thrown it after getting literally thousands of video errors with flash videos news sites not to mention the fact that the vast majority of "apps" are just dumb downed versions of web pages that I do not really care for (there are quite a few with functionaity for actual mobile use but many apps are just "internet for idiots". What I am saying here is that I am not impressed with "who has the most apps" I just need certain specific ones (which you can get from EITHER company pretty much).
I personally have a love/hate relationship with Apple.
My first laptop was a greyscale PowerBook, I've used all the older pre-10 iterations and I think OSX is an outstanding achievement. But iOS just burns me up and I can see that they are expanding this walled-garden mentality into their Mac products, as well. No standard external ports like USB, no external storage, nothing allowed on the device except through iTunes, no Flash just because Jobs is pissed off that Adobe dumped them for MS. I just hate that with a passion. And the iPad v1 is the culmination of everything I loathe about them.
But, it does have a really nice screen.
I am a veteran of the Windows/Mac Wars of the 90s and the one thing I learned is: If it does what you want and I can run what I want, then I don't care what you run. If you like Apple, if you like Win7, if you like Linux, if you like iOS, if you like Android, if you like webOS... then bully for you! I happen to like some of those myself, so whoop de do!
But tell me my platform sucks or try to spend 30min telling me WHY my platform sucks, well, I have better things to do, thanks.
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I Gave My iPad to my Wife
I gave my iPad to my wife to read her Kindle books on. I bought my gTablet on November 17th, and I have not missed my iPad. I am loving my gTablet, and it is just getting better and better with time. I am running TNT Lite 3.1.2 on mine. With flash, adhoc wi-fi support, and the full market, I am plenty happy. I am looking forward to the bright future of the gTablet.
Doing some research on video out on the IPAD. It has a selection of cables for composite, component and vga, but guess what? Only very few apps output to video such as movies, photos and not much else.
When I hooked up my HDMI to my dock today, EVERYTHING I saw on the screen was showing on the big screen.
roebeet said:
I personally have a love/hate relationship with Apple.
My first laptop was a greyscale PowerBook, I've used all the older pre-10 iterations and I think OSX is an outstanding achievement. But iOS just burns me up and I can see that they are expanding this walled-garden mentality into their Mac products, as well. No standard external ports like USB, no external storage, nothing allowed on the device except through iTunes, no Flash just because Jobs is pissed off that Adobe dumped them for MS. I just hate that with a passion. And the iPad v1 is the culmination of everything I loathe about them.
But, it does have a really nice screen.
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You are far more qualified than me to make this assessment but if you are only designing your OS to have functionality with very specific in house written end user software, I would think it would be EASY to achieve a tighter higher performaing OS.
Do the circumstances of how osx exsists in the first place not SIGNIFICANTLY diminish its level of "oustanding" as an achievement?
popezaphod said:
I am a veteran of the Windows/Mac Wars of the 90s and the one thing I learned is: If it does what you want and I can run what I want, then I don't care what you run. If you like Apple, if you like Win7, if you like Linux, if you like iOS, if you like Android, if you like webOS... then bully for you! I happen to like some of those myself, so whoop de do!
But tell me my platform sucks or try to spend 30min telling me WHY my platform sucks, well, I have better things to do, thanks.
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Fair points. Although unfortunately for all of us here, if a thing sucks it is going to suck regardless of what any individual really thinks. Suckage is an absolute and will be unaffected by all the good will of the world. Rotten meat will not become premium meat because 1000 people love it. Unfortunately this seems to be the casse with apple. In the 80s A Team and Knight Rider were top shows, just because people were watching did not make them actually good. Just because lots of people are buying Ipads does not over come the facts of an absolute and unavoidable conclusion based on the facts (listed above about ports, camera, storage devices, flash, cost, etc etc.). Its not really about convincing or anyones opinion. Its just a fact that it sucks, kind of like how the world is round (regardless of if anyone likes said fact or not).
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Ok... I am a die hard NON apple kind of guy. My wife bought her Iphone a year ago leaving me and verizon to fend for ourselves. Then I suggested she buy a Mac book as she has been slamming windows for as long as we have been married. So, after loving angry birds on my Gtab for the past month, I thought, what a perfect gift for her (and me to compare) an IPAD would be. So I bought her one for Christmas.
I have to say, the screen really is fine. The lighter weight and the form factor is sweet too. But, to have to have an app (which they do have an app for everything many free for sure) to view most web sites in a "standard" mode such as to see video on them etc., I still can not see that. And, no add on memory and no real interface... the battle is on!
I will update you periodically as I try and see it from an Apple user perspective.
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LOL, well your credibility for providing a non-bias Apple user perspective is tainted by stating you're a "die hard NON apple kind of guy". jk. My sister in law has an Ipad and I think its just a great big Ipod touch which is actually a compliment. It's so smooth and pretty to look at. Did you download skyfire on the Ipad? I heard it was out as an app. I'm curious to see how it runs on the Ipad.
Let us know.
Thanks
roebeet said:
Here's my guess on the iPad v2 - it will almost certainly have a camera. Makes sense for Facetime.
A USB port and / or a microSD slot would be a major shocker, so I highly doubt that would happen. It goes against the walled-garden approach that Apple loves so much.
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I agree, a ff camera will be on the Ipad 2. You know Apple was gonna do that anyways but decided to leave it out so people will be more likely to upgrade. That's why I'm so leary when buying apple products or any product for that matter. I want it to have my minimum requirements at least for me to consider buying it.
I also agree that it will not have expandable memory which is a shame.
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I agree, a ff camera will be on the Ipad 2. You know Apple was gonna do that anyways but decided to leave it out so people will be more likely to upgrade. That's why I'm so leary when buying apple products or any product for that matter. I want it to have my minimum requirements at least for me to consider buying it.
I also agree that it will not have expandable memory which is a shame.
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I think folks will be surprised and there will either be USB function, or micro sd options (both?). The only thing holding Apple back from complete market domination are those issues and people that hate Apple. Though Apple can do nothing for the latter, they can compromise with the former.
There should be some decent "leaks" in about a month. We shall see.........
My first computer back in the late 70's was an Apple ][. That was back in the days of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak. Even back then it was clear that the Woz only really cared about the technology and Jobs only really cared about the money. I was an avid Apple defender back then but a few years later we had Apple taken over, Woz and Jobs were out and Peter Skelly was in. Skelly had been the CEO of Pepsi Cola and his knowledge of technology consisted of being able to flip the on/off switch on lights, computers and various electrical items. Eventually he had the sense to bring Jobs back in.
Here's the problem, Jobs is glorious at design and ergonomic functionality, he is also a true technophile. He designs magnificent looking machines with super friendly GUI's that people love. But, once you get past the look of his machines you find that they offer simple AND limited functionality, and that is the very reason that the great masses love Apple machines.
Because people love the look and feel of the machines they are willing to pay bloated prices for what they see as "superior" technology when really the only thing superior is the physical design and ease of use for the technically unannointed. That is GREAT business, but lousy geekiness.
You can't knock Apple's ability to design machines that sell and make piles of money and you can't knock their success. For me, the problem is that I don't want to give them my money anymore because their machines aren't "fun".
My first priority is that my techno gadgets be functional and a close second is that they must be fun. Apple doesn't fit into that nook. Even so I did buy three Mac's a couple of years ago and found that their build quality was poor and that surprised me a lot. But in business, public perception is a bigger selling point that anything else and Apple got that right, too bad they didn't get the technical end right.
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I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.
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I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.
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I picked the gtab because I like to customize the gtab and try different Roms. I am very happy with mine using vegan tab. Flash has been a big bonus. The screen works surprisingly well. Sure, its not perfect, but this gtab has some power and is 400 bucks less than xoom. If you like out of the box OS and don't like to tinker, then get the 16GB iPad from best buy for $399. Battery life on the gtab is awesome. I wake up at 4am and use it throughout the day and heavy use by evening. I will have several hours left on the battery when I go to bed around 9pm. Try Office depot, as many have them in stock to play with. Good luck.
androidmonkey said:
I came across this old thread while researching the GTablet. The only thing that is really holding me back from buying one is the screen. The videos I see on Youtube make the screen look really bad, especially one that has a side by side comparison of the Gtablet vs Ipad. Since the GTablet has been out for awhile now, are those who own it still happy? I need to find a B&M store that has one so I can check it out, I really wish it had an IPS screen like the iPad though. I dont get why somebody doesnt come out with a killer Android tablet that can really compete with the iPad.
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So I was having the same issues before I picked up the gtablet, and having used it for a few days, the screen isn't really that bad. I also love the more widescreen aspect of it vs the ipad allows for better media watching. But it does mean you have to dive more into the device and its setup (custom roms, etc) and if that is daunting to you then I would skip the gtablet.
No issues with geek stuff like flashing ROMs. Ive been an Android user since the G1, member here on xda since then. I currently have a SGS Vibrant, rooted with Bionix.
So, what would you compare the screen to? I have a nearby Office Depot, will try to check it out tomorrow. Is the GTablet the best thing going right now? From the specs, it seems so. One last thing, what are you using to protect it? Screen protector? Case?
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No issues with geek stuff like flashing ROMs. Ive been an Android user since the G1, member here on xda since then. I currently have a SGS Vibrant, rooted with Bionix.
So, what would you compare the screen to? I have a nearby Office Depot, will try to check it out tomorrow. Is the GTablet the best thing going right now? From the specs, it seems so. One last thing, what are you using to protect it? Screen protector? Case?
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With the newest official and unofficial VS update, you may not need to use an alternative ROM.
I would compare the screen directly to a netbook screen. It is by no means imho as horrid as some would have you think, but it's not for everyone. Some people feel you should be able to see what's on the phone/tablet screens while they sit flat on a desk and you're in a chair - while I think it's nice to be able to, I certainly don't think it's necessary to enjoy it and this is just something again, imo vendors have used to inflate the cost of these devices beyond their 'real' practical value. "why is our tablet $800 when so and so is selling one with the same internals for $300? well, have you SEEEEEN our screen? BIG difference!" yeah, you get my drift.
Spec-wise, I think it's a toss-up between the GTablet and it's siblings (interpad, hanspree tablet, malata zpad, avent vega, etc.) or the Notion Ink Adam. As you probably know, the iPad is pretty nice but it's def. lacking in terms of (imo, again) certain little details where the GTablet and other Android devices with similar specs excel and you would have to either learn to live in Apple's walled garden or do some 'techie' stuff in order to jailbreak anyway. Is it the BEST right now? I don't know - probably not. It was released in Nov. 2010, there's bound to be something with similar specs and a 'better' screen by now, if not then yeah it's probably the best VALUE for what you get as of right now.
I would have got her an ipad too.
Don't get me wrong I love my gtab, but I exhaust so much time modifying and fixing my own one. I don't mind that for myself but stuffed if I'm gonna spend my entire free time fixing someone elses tablet. Ipad can't do as much but in return I don't have to ever look at it or maintain it hence freeing up my spare time.
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap? it's off brand for things i buy usually, but I've seen generally good reviews. I've also been looking at the Transformer and the Xoom. Thank you all for the help.
considering that you can get one on Ebay for under $250, I would say yes, it's most definitely worth it.
Even with Froyo roms, it's a very useful tablet that will probably do the things that you want it to do. Yes, the screen angles are not ideal, but they are acceptable (in my opinion)
Put it this way, is buying a transformer, or Xoom for almost twice as much going to be just as useless when the newest tablets come out for Christmas?
I believe that it's a question of perception. What do you want to use it for?
and who knows, when Ice Cream Sandwich gets released, it may be easier to port to the G-Tablet than Honeycomb.
Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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Well the transformer is only $150 more.. ill look up a comparison between the two. That was the other one I am still honestly considering
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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I guess my point was, is the transformer going to be just as obsolete when the new tablets arrive? Nvidea is releasing a new tegra platform, that will basically make anything running on a tegra2 old hat. This would include the Xoom, Transformer, Iconia, as well as the G-Tablet, Adam, Vega, etc. These things depreciate faster than a car driven off the dealer's lot. Originally what, $450 when they were released? I bought mine for $300 (with a few extras) on Ebay. now they are retailing for $250 in Woot deals and Tiger Direct, while used ones on Ebay are plummeting down to nearly $200. When the new Tegra devices are released, I suspect that a G-tablet can be bought for $100 used.
What I mean, is why not save the $150 now, to put toward a better tablet down the line...The g-tablet will at least give you a less expensive introduction to the android tablet world, while still being a quite useful tool.
I would just hate to see somebody spend more money on a similar tablet that will cause them buyers remorse in 3 months or so. Of course, if you have the cash to burn, then go ahead and buy what you really want...for most people, that's an iPad...jk
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Wow. Very excellent explanation. I see now. Yes I will probably soon be purchasing the g tab!
PS: screw the ipad
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this).
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Honeycomb is not completely functional on the gtab (as of now). It is missing the Honeycomb specific drivers from Nvidia (aka full hardware acceleration, high def video).
If you really care about Honeycomb you should get the transformer IMO.
Although, I am quite happy with froyo based ROMs
Others are right in saying that quad core Tegra 3s are around the corner, Tegra 2 prices might drop by the end of the year. Given how Nvidia and Viewsonic acted regarding the gtab, I foresee support for Tegra 2s dropping drastically as newer hardware gets released.
Yeah the almost fully functioning honeycomb on here is fine for me. Should be ordering my g tab this week!
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Hello, I wrote a quick review for some guys that I work with. I am sure there are many reviews of the gtablet, but...
Here are my conclusions so far;
This thing is about the same size as the Xoom, and thicker than the IPAD. It is definitely not as sexy.
The screen is OK. It is not a high quality screen like you find on the other devices.
The processor is great, and the memory is sufficient. Things move pretty quick.
The ROM out of the box REALLY sucked. I was hoping to just deal with it, but Google had not approved the tablet so there were NO Google apps at all. Not acceptable. It took me a couple of hours to learn (last night till around 1:00am), but I replaced the stock ROM with a hacked ROM with everything I wanted.
This thing is really just a big Android phone with no phone or GPS.
I loaded up my Sony Reader software, downloaded all of my books, and then imported them into a DRM capable reader that is better.
Although there are some ROMs that support Gingerbread screens, I think I will stick with this 2.2 (or is it 2.3) Android feel.
What will I use it for?
Reading ebooks, PDFs (Scientific American, Maximum PC)
Google apps – maps, search
Kayak, hotels.com apps
Games (mostly for the kids) – I got Android Market to work
Web Browsing / some forum reading (via Tapatalk)
Personal email reading and contacts (no work email will be set up)
Maybe occasional Skype and Gotomeeting (camera sucks, so mostly audio)
News and weather
Of course, with the exception of reading the ebooks, I would always use the Macbook Pro if it were available.
So the speed and memory makes this all possible, but the experience (screen, size, build) is not equivalent to the expensive tablets.
Biggest complaints?
No GPS
Screen is not easy to see at an angle
I needed to root the thing to make it useful, which means I now need to stay on top of that and update it manually
The 10.1 device is a bit bigger / bulkier than I expected – the weight is the same as the ipad I believe.
I “can” watch videos on it (even 1080p), but moving the files would be a drag… it uses a microSD card that I would need to pop ion an adapter, or I could use the USB connection. Maybe I can find a way to do it with wifi or Bluetooth.
No USB charging… WTF??? It comes with a separate adapter that has to plug into the wall…
The screen is a 1024x600 which is similar to most pads, but it is really inferior to the Macbook Pro, and there is just something that is “fuzzy” about it.
Biggest positives?
Cheap - $269 delivered (no tax or shipping)
Fast
Should do what I want…
Next Steps…
See how much I actually use it for anything other than ebooks. If I do end up needing it more than I think, I would consider the Asus Transformer or something else new in the next year or so.
Hope this helps,
R
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hello, I've been recently looking at tablets. I want something pretty decently nice, with honeycomb (which you can put on this), and just generally nice specs. But my real question is, is this thing a piece of complete crap?
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The screen is complete crap.
You should look hard for something with a better screen around $300-$350. If you can find it, get it.
And I *like* my Gtab - but its really just for kicking around and messing with roms and android. The screen really is killer bad unless you use it only at night, head on
Honeycomb works, and works well, as well as you could hope for unsupported xda rom hacking - ie, no netflix, no Hardware acceleration, occasional stand on your head workarounds, and the possibility of sudden death... well, ok, not that last one.
Bottom line: if you can find it for $100-$200, and want to play with roms, and tweak, and screw with it a lot to get it to be as good as a $400 one except for the horrible screen that cannot be fixed, YES, this is your tablet.
If you want a tablet to take out of the box and use, with rom updates from the manufacturer, and a screen you can read ebooks off of, this is NOT your tablet. Even for free.
So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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For $400, I'd say yeah.
Better screen, 1Kx800 resolution, 2x the ram. Yeah, looks like that's all worth $120.
Oh... and a GPS too.
Oh, and Honeycomb 3.1 from Asus. Plus lots of XDA love it seems.
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So should I just get the transformer? Ah so many decisions!
Well I'm literally about to go to fry electronics and ill test out some there. Thanks !
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I think the main question is what you want the tablet for or what to do with it.
A cheap $250-300 laptop has so much more computing power and practical use than any tablet...just a bit bulkier.
The tablet market will have much more offerings and better with faster cpus and such..just have to wait a bit.
I bought my gtab from woot 4/2011 for $275. I have installed several ROMs on it. They all are pretty good with their own pluses and minuses.
I'm currently on Flashback 5.4 HC: it looks nice and works well. Gmail, Talk - w/o video; G-Voice, Maps, Lattitude, Earth etc all work. You Tube works; a bunch of games works. The big screen is better than the phone size screen. Nice quick weather apps. Nice calendar.
What it cannot do is replace the screen and functionality of my desktop for real work.
If you can find a cheap Gtab and play with ROM's, flashing, androids quirks etc - jsut for the fun of it, then get a gtab. Fully flashable with great recovery process. Almost 99.99% Non-brickable. Get a used one for play and test.
If you want a decent a functional tablet w/o hassle, get an I-pad2.
I have read many complaints about the viewing angle of the screen, but I have had my tablet for months and I have no complaints. It has replaced my planner for work and is great for watching movies, not sharing with my neighbor.
This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?
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This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?
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Huh?? What the heck are you smoking? "Yet to be lunched" Tegra 3? It's been out for a while. Also, how is the apple GPU "twice as powerful" as the 5-core Tegra?
FYI, the Asus Transformer Prime TF700 has a 1920x1200 IPS display and the lovely Tegra. The screen is absolutely lovely, and the 3D games are to die for. Worldwide launch will be in June, but a few of us lucky guys who bought the TF201 (and thus are already enjoying Tegra 3 goodness) also get to play with the newest toys...
Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels
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Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
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Good time to get started!
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iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels
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Well, Apple is well known for massive massive massive fluff (or blatant lies) in their presentations. In all likelihood they took one specific game/graphic app and specifically optimized the heck out of it, then tested it against a Tegra 3 system which ran an un-optimized game.
Yeah, the resolution is nice, but I can assure you the competition is not waiting.
The IPS panel on the TF701 is stunning. Perfect color rendition, viewing angles like mad, etc. Plus it's a wide display which is nicer for watching movies, and it's a lot lighter than the new iPad (which needs to lay off the Krispy Kremes)
The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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Yup, I agree. Some people may say "android phone and iPad for best of both worlds".
Personally, I prefer android on both for easy synch, google cloud services, etc. It all depend on which ecosystem you prefer to be tied in to - some people may prefer iCloud, etc.
Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad.
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I would not say that.
But it is true that now a new benchmark has been set. And I personally believe that this time, for the first time, the price that the iPad is selling at is justified by the impressing hardware. How many times have we said "I can find better at a cheaper price"? Now OEMs will have to struggle a little. Not only they will have to compete with iPad's hardware, but also with its price. Which, I repeat, now really seems something like... competitive.
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Agee in part outside of the w8 thing which is a joke. Happy to see more options but I have yet to see a windows op system on a mobile device I could stomach
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Lol?
I like the new ipad, but i just cant stand iOS and it lack of customization.
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The screen resolution is pretty good and I imagine the Android tablets will be 1080p capable this year. Thats not copying Apple, screen resolutions are always getting better over time. Most tablets have pretty poor screen densities when compared with phones. The Asus Transformer resolution of 1920x1200 sounds like a good one since it will fit 1920x1080 video fine with extra room for the ICS buttons below.
I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.
hype
I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.
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I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Windows 8 might be a big tablet hit, it also might die out from the heavy competition... They might just be a bit too late.
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I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.
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Install Windows 8 on one of your computers and give it a go. For me, it was a giant disappointment.
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For me too, but when Windows 8 reaches tablets, we'll surely start to see a mixture between tablet apps and Windows applications. It WILL be expensive though. I think I'll get the iPad
I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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Problem is when you start adding stuff like keyboards,mice and desktop OS-like features you may as well get an ultra portable laptop that does those things much better than a tablet.
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I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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I agree, but apps like OneNote and Google Docs on Android and iOS are slowly adding to the productivity-abilities of tablets and phones.
Tablets are mostly gimmics, but they sure are very cool ones?
I will let you all know, my company is giving us all iPads next month for work.