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Overlocking GPU??

recently i came across overlocking GPU.. in sense4a built by derefas made GPU overlocked to 220 n he mensioned that its safe.. is i dont think it wont create any problem.. some problem ll exist.. can anybody know that problem?? and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat?? n i google it but i saw that for adreno220 it clock speed would be 1.2Ghz to 1.5GHz(acc. to this site - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageon). so that rom has gpu overlocked n cpu optional, it means iguess it make some problem.. can anybody explain me pros n cons..:fingers-crossed:

shree alwaz said:
recently i came across overlocking GPU.. in sense4a built by derefas made GPU overlocked to 220 n he mensioned that its safe.. is i dont think it wont create any problem.. some problem ll exist.. can anybody know that problem?? and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat?? n i google it but i saw that for adreno220 it clock speed would be 1.2Ghz to 1.5GHz(acc. to this site - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imageon). so that rom has gpu overlocked n cpu optional, it means iguess it make some problem.. can anybody explain me pros n cons..:fingers-crossed:
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I have the same query... If it's safe then the work is remarkable:thumbup:
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arey nobody knows about this.. how can know??

All that a newbie could get.
can anybody know that problem??
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The dev's have had their phone's NAND memory fried due to overclocking the Processor. I don't have info about the GPU.
and overlocking to 220 means now we have adreno220 ?? is it like dat??
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No, it ain't like that. The chip is embedded, and can't change.
Our Chipset is MSM7225A (according to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3073&c=htc_explorer_htc_pico) and the GPU supported is Adreno 200 (enhanced) according to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)).
The Adreno 200 was said to support the following in the wikipedia site.
Adreno 200 (AMD Z430) inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.4, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw. (22M triangles/second, 133M pixels/second, clock speed up to 128 MHz).
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Even some googling didn't help in finding the clocking speed of our GPU. According to wikipedia, it supports 128 MHz.
Note that it was for the devices QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27.
But, an enhanced GPU is supported in our Chip. So, I got the following info from the Qualcomm website.
Adreno™ 200 is the first OGLES 2.0 GPU with unified shader architecture and makes maximum use of the graphics processing power of the GPU. This GPU is a leap forward in visual graphics quality from OpenGL-Es 1.x, which enables developers to implement effects that were previously a daunting task. APIs supported include OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw. The Adreno 200 delivers streaming textures to combine Video, Camera, SVG and other image surfaces with 3D graphics. It also enables concurrent CPU, DSP, Graphics, and MDP and includes a programmable function graphics pipeline.
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And, so, I summarized that an enhanced GPU, in our chip, has a normal clocking speed of around 200 MHz, and it can be overclocked. How this is done, and all the other stuff, the developers might help you. And, if its safe... I also read that overclocking a little wouldn't harm. So, I guess it's safe.
Anyways, the Pros are that you would get a little extra fps, so you could "expect" a little improvement in gaming and video playback.
The Cons... Well, anyone using an overclocked GPU for long might know.

vineethraj49 said:
The dev's have had their phone's NAND memory fried due to overclocking the Processor. I don't have info about the GPU.
No, it ain't like that. The chip is embedded, and can't change.
Our Chipset is MSM7225A (according to http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3073&c=htc_explorer_htc_pico) and the GPU supported is Adreno 200 (enhanced) according to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)).
The Adreno 200 was said to support the following in the wikipedia site.
Even some googling didn't help in finding the clocking speed of our GPU. According to wikipedia, it supports 128 MHz.
Note that it was for the devices QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27.
But, an enhanced GPU is supported in our Chip. So, I got the following info from the Qualcomm website.
And, so, I summarized that an enhanced GPU, in our chip, has a normal clocking speed of around 200 MHz, and it can be overclocked. How this is done, and all the other stuff, the developers might help you. And, if its safe... I also read that overclocking a little wouldn't harm. So, I guess it's safe.
Anyways, the Pros are that you would get a little extra fps, so you could "expect" a little improvement in gaming and video playback.
The Cons... Well, anyone using an overclocked GPU for long might know.
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yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??

Maybe if its highly OC'd, then...
shree alwaz said:
yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??
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If the fps increases a lot, then, gaming and video playback might improve.

shree alwaz said:
yea.. actually.. i dint understand what is mean by GPU OC.. how it ll improves the gaming performance??
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When overclocked the textures are rendered little quicker than normal clocking. It won't double the frame rate as some guy doubted. Look at the details of our CPU and gpu.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7225a&c=qualcomm_msm7225a
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Post you benchmarks!!! SD800 vs Exynos Octa

Guys be appropriate and post your benchmarks!!
I'll do mine when I get it!!!
Thanks

as I read on Android Authority, Samsung confirmed that new Exynos 5 Octa will be able to use all eight cores simultaneously after installation of a software patch...
let's wait what this will lead to :laugh:

theguardian99 said:
as I read on Android Authority, Samsung confirmed that new Exynos 5 Octa will be able to use all eight cores simultaneously after installation of a software patch...
let's wait what this will lead to :laugh:
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I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.

You will still get more results than the SD800, but it comes with a killup of features.. as recording is not possible on exynos at 4K

CLARiiON said:
I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.
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Even if the clocks are higher on the snapdragon processeor ,the octa have an a15 architecture which is faster than the snapdragon's krait 400.

My main concern is Exynos Octa core overheating & lags/freezes in it . Please do put a remark on the same, while posting Benchmarks for Octa Core .

NoteboyTech said:
You will still get more results than the SD800, but it comes with a killup of features.. as recording is not possible on exynos at 4K
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i dont think 4k really matters to people. i'm pretty sure not many people own a 4k tv/monitor. and if they do they probably would want a real camera to record it with. with OIS.

The sweet thing about the Exynos 5420 is that it uses a Mali T628 MP6 instead of the PowerVR SGX544MP3 like the 5410 used. Also sound quality should be better on the Exynos variant because it should be using a wolfston DAC. Since the Exynos one does not have LTE I will be stuck with the Snapdragon variant.
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Exynos score on antutu

Passmark benchmark anyone?
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CLARiiON said:
I don't think you will see much difference in benchmarks. Maybe bit better as the clocks are higher compared to 5410 1st-gen octa. But the biggest advantage should be batterylife. Now any task can run on any core and GTS can make use of any combination of cores to perform the task. This is lot better compared to cluster-migration technique. I am more interested in batterylife results.
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Bad Exynos 5410 is caused by CCI. It will cause lag and bad battery life. It fixed in Exynos 5420. Good battery life and good performance.
I'm hand-on S800 and Exynos 5420 version and can't find out who better.
S800 is better in graphics? Nope. The same. In benchmark, 3DMark for example, high VGA memory is used to store texture. In S800, 512MB is configurated to VGA. And in Exynos 5420, it just 320MB. (Some ram is used in LTE/HSPA baseband, touchscreen,...). Result is S800 is better in offscreen benchmark due to a lot texture is stored in ram. But in on-screen or free ram, Exynos 5420 are much better. After 3 hours of use, ram used is bumped up to 2,2-2,3GB in Exynos 5420 but i can't see any lag because free ram is 400MB but in S800 (my friend), he feel some lag, free ram only 100-200MB. Clean up ram and it will be ok.
Battery in 2 version is the same. Difference not too much to notice.
But, note 3 is just a note. We use it because we can store and note everything, not simple to benchmark it.

hiepgia said:
In benchmark, 3DMark for example, high VGA memory is used to store texture. In S800, 512MB is configurated to VGA. And in Exynos 5420, it just 320MB.
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Just to clear things up since you guys keep mentioning this: Video memory is not part of the reserved memory.
The increased memory buffers on the Snapdragon likely are going to the camera and other such things as 4K recording.

AndreiLux said:
Just to clear things up since you guys keep mentioning this: Video memory is not part of the reserved memory.
The increased memory buffers on the Snapdragon likely are going to the camera and other such things as 4K recording.
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Hii Andrei am waiting for your wonderful kernel hope u build one perseus like u built for note 2 and s4

bhasg1007 said:
Hii Andrei am waiting for your wonderful kernel hope u build one perseus like u built for note 2 and s4
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I don't have a Note 3 and I won't get one myself.

AndreiLux said:
I don't have a Note 3 and I won't get one myself.
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Sorry to bother, but is that a confirmation that you won't be able to support Note 3 like you did Note 2? I do understand the hardware is different this time round...
Thanks!
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SD800
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Verizon LG G2 S800 Antutu score. I don't have my Note3 yet and I wanted to join in.
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Has anyone determined whether or not the S800 is a 8974 or 8974AB?

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Has anyone determined whether or not the S800 is a 8974 or 8974AB?
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This
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Single or Quad core GPU?

Hello, i bought a china phone with quad core mtk6582 cpu.
In Antutu benchmark show that cpu is - 4+4 cores - what it this? 4 cores or ?
For the GPU - Antutu say - Mali 400 MP
But i see that this MTK6582 , have mali 400 mp2 gpu - so which is correct antutu or ?
I Try with another benchmark quadrant standart - and there also show mali 400 mp as a single core.
Do you know how much cores is this gpu?
Thanks

Maybe antutu was wrong,try google it bro,maybe it can help,check it on mtk website or your phone's brand website
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Use CPU-Z app find u can find everything perfectly

honor 6 plus PE TL10

Hi! I need to know what is exact GPU spec of honor plus? Mine was Mali T624. When I search through internet for specs they say it was Mali T628 MP4?tnx!

eureka07 said:
Hi! I need to know what is exact GPU spec of honor plus? Mine was Mali T624. When I search through internet for specs they say it was Mali T628 MP4?tnx!
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It's 628 MP4, it's debated in another thread. Even if cpuz says T624.

snapdragon 636 vs 660 analysis: Adreno GPU

Hello everyone! With the launch of redmi note 5 pro and snapdragon 636 we have now a budget king. We know that 636 is based on 660 with reduced clocks for better efficiency , cpu cores being the same.What we don't know for sure is what gpu the 636 is using. We've been lead to believe that snapdragon 636 is using adreno 509 wich is a slight improvement over adreno 508 on snapdragon 630. Based on this article http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/ we know that adreno 506 and 508 is the same core , and adreno 510 and 512 is the same core with the latter being on a node shrink to 14nm from 28nm.
So adreno 506 at 600mhz has 120 gflops , adreno 508 at 800mhz has 160gflops, adreno 510 (28nm) at 600mhz has 180gflops and adreno 512 (14nm) at 800mhz has 240gflops..
Adreno 509 is supposed to have a bump of 10% improvement over adreno 508 wich is around 160gflops. This means adreno 509 should be around the mark of 175gflops, right between the adreno 508 and adreno 510. If adreno 509 is the same core as adreno 506 & and 508 that means adreno 509 needs al least + 10% on the clocks. 800mhz + 10% => goes to ~900mhz for adreno 509. Not impossible but not likely because don't forget snapdragon636 is meant to be very efficient and the increased consumption cuased by the delta of perf/clocks at 900mhz is very high. So taking the assumption that adreno 509 is the same core as 510 and 512 , for it to be around 175gflops it needs to be underclocked at around 550mhz. A 550mhz clock would need a lot less power then a smaller gpu core (506) but at a higher clock ~~900mhz.
Adreno 509 being the same core as 510 and 512 would be very beneficial to us ,making the snapdragon 636 a very friendly overclocker both on cpu cores and gpu cores.
The problem with this theory is : I don't have proof. I don't have a redmi note 5 pro ( it's not yet released globally) and there is a lack of information based on this gpu's on internet.
We need someone with the phone , time and willing to figure it out at what clock adreno 509 operates. From there we can see on wich gpu core adreno 509 is really based.

Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^

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Any news about this? On wikipedia there is some more information, but don't know if these are true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adreno
Adreno 509, 510 and 512 all have 128 ALUs.
Adreno 509: 720mhz and 14nm
Adreno 510: 600mhz and 28nm
Adreno 512: 850mhz and 14nm
So if these information are true, the Adreno 509 should be faster than the Adreno 510 + less power hungry because of 14nm.
Can anyone confirm this?^^
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However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.

ZHQzhq087 said:
However, my Redmi Note 5' Adreno 509 only gets 430Mhz under full load, so I think it's just a downclock version of Adreno 512. The performance of 509 is even better than 510, and barely produce any heat.
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That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^

Try it or die said:
That's interesting. I just searched on YouTube for some performance videos, on Antutu the phone has a SD636 and an Adreno 512, so it could be really a downclocked version. I guess we need more information^^
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if so, in the future it will be overclock adreno 509 to level 512

Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?

bbighouse said:
Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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Unfortunately, not yet. Some say that it's impossible to overclock but I dunno why..probably some higher level sources are locked or maybe some alu's are hardlocked is my guess. Does anyone here have an idea about it?

660 is a overclocked 636.

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Did we get any development on overclocking the SD636 adreno 509 to SD660 adreno 512 levels?
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We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..

Kuato said:
We nid proper frequency_table to do this, some kernel using source from 660 and bump CPU clock to 2.2Ghz for real, but not for the GPU, I hope someone could bring a new frequency_table for adreno 509 from scratch.. cuz its happen on sd435 just like simpleKernel by Luiz on Redmi 4x..
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Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!

nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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I tried his kernel with 675Mhz gpu clock and its awesome, it can run pubg with medium setup, the only issue is battery but I don't really care cuz higher performance = higher battery drain and its normal, I hope someone like them bring hardware unlock for our chipset,

The Restless Soul said:
660 is a overclocked 636.
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Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
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MikiGry said:
Actually its the opposite. 636 is a underclocked 660
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It is the same thing.

nakulp said:
Wow, I see some interesting changelogs' on that thread for redmi4x
"Overclocked BIG to 1.49GHz and LITTLE to 1.209GHz using hardware unlocks thanks to @TecnoTailsPlays for working together to do this;
-> Overclocked GPU to 610MHz again, working together with @TecnoTailsPlays (https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=6821509);"
Would be nice if some devs like him can look at the 509's frequency table too.. The performance increase could be next level!
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Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)

LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Wow.. nice bro.. we hope you make it happen
636 with Fiture of 660.. "cheers"

LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks dude!
The goal is to overclock the SD363 to match the SD660. Most importantly the GPU! The two chips perform basically the same CPU-wise, but in graphics the 660 is 30-40% more powerful, simply because it is clocked higher.

LuanHalaiko said:
Resume what you guys want, I maybe take a look if there's a source for me to access
(I'm TecnoTailsPlays, that was my old name here in XDA lol)
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Thanks man, that'd be huge! I'm ready to donate too if necessary :angel:

Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump

renoxtv said:
Yeah if someone could make the GPU clocks like Adreno 512, it would be less painful to watch the Redmi note 7 and its SD660 XD
But anyway, SD636 to SD660 kernels exist for our whyred, its just a matter of getting that adreno 512. Another info is that our GPU gets 21k antutu score and 512 gets 30k. Not important but definitely a nice bump
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Exactely!
The 636 is already a MASSIVE upgrade from the 625, specially gpu-wise (about 60%) and gettin that extra 30-40% would be magical.

But, would that stress the GPU and cpu? I have senn people talking with worry about that. And I noticed that there were many kernels with oc(I think most of custom kernels for whyred started with oc) but now I think that the only one left is kangaroo. All the others removed oc and ov. Does this mean something?