Or should I install it on my Shield Tablet LTE?
Nope, it's still Lollipop. Google has pushed two fixes that kinda fix things but also create new problems, only one of which the Shield has gotten.
Also, if you like your current Gallery, remember to kiss it Goodbye as Lollipop uses the bloated Google+ for it. :/
Thanks for the prompt reply!
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Nope, it's still Lollipop. Google has pushed two fixes that kinda fix things but also create new problems, only one of which the Shield has gotten.
Also, if you like your current Gallery, remember to kiss it Goodbye as Lollipop uses the bloated Google+ for it. :/
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Damn, I didn't realize the gallery was gone until now. The new gallery doesn't seem to be too bad, but you're right in that it's bloated kinda.
Other than that, Lollipop seems to be an improvement over KitKat with regards to stability OP. I haven't had nearly as many issues with it. I'd say go for it.
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Damn, I didn't realize the gallery was gone until now. The new gallery doesn't seem to be too bad, but you're right in that it's bloated kinda.
Other than that, Lollipop seems to be an improvement over KitKat with regards to stability OP. I haven't had nearly as many issues with it. I'd say go for it.
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On the bright side, Nvidia actually went out of their way to compile the email app... my Nexus sorely misses that. But hey, I've been using QuickPic for a while too, which is sufficient where Gallery is meh and Google+ just hurts.
Meanwhile, I'm pretty pleased with the direction the camera and its aftereffects editing have gone. It's not Picsay (or insert favorite editor here), but it's serviceable enough to not require an extra app.
So I'm beginning to see more reasons to upgrade to 5.0.1(?).
Is the only reason not to do so because of the aesthetics of using Google Drive for image storing?
I am thinking about going back to KitKat until there is a update to Lollipop which fixes the slowdowns I and others have.
Otherwise my main problem with Lollipop is that new volume control. To change the media volume you have to go to sound settings in settings menu. It's also too easy to turn of alarm sound by mistake with the new volume/notification control.
I remember reading an article at Android Central ago where they listed all bugs/missing features/problems with Lollipop. Well worth reading before updating.
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I am thinking about going back to KitKat until there is a update to Lollipop which fixes the slowdowns I and others have.
Otherwise my main problem with Lollipop is that new volume control. To change the media volume you have to go to sound settings in settings menu. It's also too easy to turn of alarm sound by mistake with the new volume/notification control.
I remember reading an article at Android Central ago where they listed all bugs/missing features/problems with Lollipop. Well worth reading before updating.
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Too late.
Just as well, so far it seems more stable for what I'm doing. I haven't seen any of the slowdowns you and others mention.
Thanks for pointing me to the Android Central article, I'll have to see if I can't find it. Feel free to post a link if you stumble across it before I do.
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Nope, it's still Lollipop. Google has pushed two fixes that kinda fix things but also create new problems, only one of which the Shield has gotten.
Also, if you like your current Gallery, remember to kiss it Goodbye as Lollipop uses the bloated Google+ for it. :/
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Since people are complaining about the gallery going away. Here is the old one. It also installs the old camera.
https://mega.co.nz/#!CkJBlLiK!KcJGELR2ut_q1avgUGuJBfFMVGdm99RQ_JZQbPZQlGk
Just install the apk.
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I use Quickpick as a replacement for the stock KK camera and it works really well. As for upgrade to 5.0.1, poeple is complaining about battery life and some miscellaneous thing, that's why i kept 5.0
5.01 is significantly smoother... Especially when you disable HW Overlay (Force GPU rendering).. I went back to KitKat due to the wonky battery stats / life of 5.01 and KitKat was a dog in comparison --- So I went back to 5.01. ANd its butter smooth in comparison - even Chrome is significantly improved on 501. The battery life / stats are still wonky but with my clean load of everything (reflashed everything) and rooted (removed all the ATT bloat) I have to say... I am loving the tablet much much more..
So my suggestion is to load a fresh version of KitKat (1.2 Nvidia Image) then perform a clean upgrade from there...
>even Chrome
With a fresh install approaching 80MB, that's a pretty impressive benchmark.
Yeah, Lollipop elsewhere might be trouble but I think Nvidia pulled it off.
Thanks for all the feedback.
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Honestly, don't... I have been running lollipop since launch on my SHIELD LTE and now with 5.0.1, the number of minor bugs this has is simply mind bending. I have tried blaming it on pretty much everything but in truth all the stuff i use works heaps better in KitKat. Not to mention the Power drain, intermittent wifi, broken power control, rendering artefacts and so on and so forth. FYI none of this was an issue in kitkat for me and i have run it rooted and unrooted and with both locked and unlocked loader and pretty much anything i can think of, since I use EU/RoW software there is no bloating but even so i have tried removing anything and everything i could, to no improvement at all.
If you think nVidia did a good job on lollipop then i really don't want to see a bad job...
I agree... Other than performance Nvidia 2.1 (5.01 Andorid) has been a very poor quality build . However, Performance improved significantly (Antutu I gained 3k points just by going from 2.0 Nvidia to 2.1)
You can fix the artifact thing by Disabling HW overlay in Developers Options... pretty much all video glitches go away... WIFI is no better... I think they have a poor hardware design and wont be able to fix this with software. Battery Life is definitely worse and the battery stats are FUBAR. Regarding power control... I cant tell - honestly I dont see much difference when optimizing and not optimizing thus I guess they are broken.
I went back to KitKat and then went back to Lollipop - that tells you something right there
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Honestly, don't... I have been running lollipop since launch on my SHIELD LTE and now with 5.0.1, the number of minor bugs this has is simply mind bending. I have tried blaming it on pretty much everything but in truth all the stuff i use works heaps better in KitKat. Not to mention the Power drain, intermittent wifi, broken power control, rendering artefacts and so on and so forth. FYI none of this was an issue in kitkat for me and i have run it rooted and unrooted and with both locked and unlocked loader and pretty much anything i can think of, since I use EU/RoW software there is no bloating but even so i have tried removing anything and everything i could, to no improvement at all.
If you think nVidia did a good job on lollipop then i really don't want to see a bad job...
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If i disable the overlay i get quite bad stuttering in animations in the places i had artefacts so between two bad things... I hate redoing a good setup but I will go back to kitkat & wait a good while for nV to sort out lollipop before going back.
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I agree... Other than performance Nvidia 2.1 (5.01 Andorid) has been a very poor quality build . However, Performance improved significantly (Antutu I gained 3k points just by going from 2.0 Nvidia to 2.1)
You can fix the artifact thing by Disabling HW overlay in Developers Options... pretty much all video glitches go away... WIFI is no better... I think they have a poor hardware design and wont be able to fix this with software. Battery Life is definitely worse and the battery stats are FUBAR. Regarding power control... I cant tell - honestly I dont see much difference when optimizing and not optimizing thus I guess they are broken.
I went back to KitKat and then went back to Lollipop - that tells you something right there
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I had the memory leak issue on 5.0.0, but 5.0.1 remedied every issue I had. I have no regrets about the update (except that I'm still unhappy with how the OS handles folder permissions because app developers are taking WAY too long to adapt to it).
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I had the memory leak issue on 5.0.0, but 5.0.1 remedied every issue I had. I have no regrets about the update (except that I'm still unhappy with how the OS handles folder permissions because app developers are taking WAY too long to adapt to it).
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Similar experience here, no issues on latest firmware.
I'm running 5.0.1 and I'm having battery drainage issues and major throttling when waking the device, even if my power management settings are set for max performance. Need to wait 10-20 seconds for commands to register.
I get one day of use out of the Tablet, would have to bring up the battery day for actual on screen time. I do use Chromecast quite a bit and play a lot of Hearthstone so... a day may be correct lol.
the biggest issue for me are the slow downs and random crashes though, just painful. Nothing angers while I'm having relax time than having Hearthstone crash while I'm laying down the hurt..... oh well, just a game.
I had the lovely memory leak issue pretty recently, and my tablet is definitely running 5.0.1. The OS is mediocre generally, with the processor still doing impressive heavy lifting, but when the system grinds to a total halt and not even the Home, Back, and Recent keys are disappearing or unresponsive, it's a bummer.
How about those software keys, huh? Twice as prone to failure in tight situations. Deciding to not register touches, being frozen, disappearing, etc... a brilliant choice.
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I got rid of my prime for an Infinity and when i first got the infinity, it was flying. Fast, stable, wonderful...especially compared to the prime. After about 1.5 wks of daily use, ive been getting random lock ups and slow downs and have had to reboot or cold boot several times now. I have been very careful to not load too many apps or games and if i think an app or game is causing the problem then i immediately delete it.
I recall this happening to the Prime and am wondering if this is how its going to be with these ASUS tablets? They are so great at first then slow down and become laggy causing the user experience to sufffer greatly. Does anyone think JB is going to fix this problem?
Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.
I keep reading posts about how poor the performance is with the TF700 and I keep wondering if I'm using the same tablet?!?!
Not sure if it's the Zeus ROM or what, but I don't have any performance issues to speak of!
For those having performance issues - maybe try the Zeus ROM and see if that helps (at least until JB comes out)...
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David522d said:
Jelly Bean will make this tablet like BUDDDDER
I would wipe/factory reset
Start of fresh, JB is around the corner.
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We can only hope for the best!
I'm whipping up a list of generic complaints for when the Jellybeans are spilled.
I'm just like everyone else...scouring that play store for the one!
Been unloading a lot of stuff that I thought was groovy.
To me the tab seems the same or a bit better than it's first day in my clutches.
Finally settled on the ICS+ browser...the rest of them have features yet to me cause some frowning.
Heck I dunno...
mines started off smooth as well, then came a lot of freezes and force closings. I did a factory reset about a week ago, and its seems back to the way it originally was. Everything is fine now. I do hope JB comes soon though.
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Well, I was going to say it seems to come and go with mine but I've gotten about 10 browser not responding messages trying to reply. It started off really good when I first go it but it has gotten progressively worse since then. One thing I notice is it seems to be the ads in web pages that kill the browser. I guess that flash is causing the problem? The android browsing experience leaves a lot to be desired.
I call it the Windows XP syndrome.
XP was zippity fast on a clean install, but add a few years into it of loading it with all kinds of applications, AV changes, system restores, repairs, etc.
and you get a XP that takes a good 2-3 minutes post startup to run, and it will slow down over heavy usage.
I also experience this with Firefox in Windows 7, that browser was a beast with all those add-ons and the only browser with a true Ad-blockers, but as Firefox approach version 13, it's become a slug and can't handle many tabs.
I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.
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I have not noticed a slow down....yet. But I have disabled a lot of crap that seems to start on its own.
This device is now three weeks old or so and there is yet to find a glitch.
A little tweaking goes a long way.
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The Zeus Rom also removes a lot of bloatware, as you said, don't underestimate how bogged down your system can become with all that stuff running in the background.
Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?
No problems here. Since last update mine is rock solid stable, and performance is quite good. Had chance to use heavily at a 3 day conference and it was great though battery is not as good as my tf101. Also had my first chance to spend some solid time with an ipad2(not new one) . Utterly worthless. It was soo limited and locked down. Performance was fine but not as good as my infinity. 4x3 sucks.
I'm wondering if those with issues have one or more bad apps installed, I know it's happened to me before. They run crap in background and are not optimized.
Lots of problems here as well. I had actually typed in great detail, all the issues I have come across and the damn browser force closed so I lost everything I typed. My tablets acting up really bad, so I'm gonna end it here. This tf700 is the prime with fixed wifi and a nicer screen... please let JB fix this or its going back to Amazon.... infinity tablet #2.... there won't be a #3 if JB isn't stellar!
So disappointed with Asus...
Thats OK said:
Hmmmm....
As one of the un-knowledgeable as far as development:
Would Android being Linux (I guess) be more subject to bugs and failures because it's RAM friendly and lighthearted.
In other words since Android seems less complex would its speed versus hardware cause cross links or file IO failures more readily?
I know Windows has driven me nutz for years...always wanted to try Linux yet never have.
What exactly will JellyBean do?
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The Linux kernel isn't the problem. I would even say that Linux is more stable than Windows.
Jelly Bean has the target to make Android as smooth as iOS devices.
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JB will make only the transitions smoother, other than that, i don't think we are going to see any performance boost or at least decrease in lags and hickups. This is due to HW to some extent (imho) and yes, the crappy apps.
I can tell you right away that after removing the live wallpaper that i used as workaround for cropped wallpapers in portrait mode, my tablet is now much faster on home screens that it was before. I also went and disabled some of the Asus apps. I know there are probably some other apps that are running in the BG and should be removed, too, but i simply need them, so no options here.
It also seems that factory reset is helping for some people, so maybe i'll give it a try, too, right before the JB update.
I am still on system that came from the factory.
Of course I don't think the tablet is crap, cause it is not, it is great, but it really needs some gentle hands sometimes to get it up to speed.
There is one thing that makes me VERY angry sometimes, so angry that maybe someday the tablet will fly into the wall....
I have enabled the screenshot function of the back button. Well, sometimes, when i want to just go back, "fracking back!", it creates a screenshot, which makes a tablet even more unresponsive. Frack!
I was also having a lot of trouble at first with my Infinity. Then I did a couple of things. One, i got rid of the dual battery widget that I used all the time on my Prime; two, I deleted or disabled every unnecessary app I could find. There are a number of good forum threads that can tell you what to disable. I also settled on Apex Pro Launcher which now seems very stable after deleting dual batter widget.
Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
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Mine slowed down after a couple weeks which was very frustrating because I really liked it when I traded my Prime for it. I have moved away from Asus altogether now good luck with jellybean hope it works out for you guys
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Buh bye!
I guess i made a big ****ing mistake again, First i got the infinity then i returned it to get the note 10.1 . I was raving and writing positive reviews on that tablet as it is truly a fast tablet, no force close , stereo speaker is loud with good definition then last night i picked up my ipad3 and started browsing , after an hour i went back to my note 10.1 thats when the problem starts as i can now see the how bad 1280x800 resolution is compared to my ipad3 or infinity. So i went back and returned the note for the infinity and now...... after......... couple ....of ....days.........it was ****ing laggy and keeps on force closing browsing is started to became painfully slow , typing is not fun as i keeps on skipping letters as the touch screen is not that responsive. I want to go back to the note but i guess i dont have the guts anymore to returned it again...... Now i'm stuck.
I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........
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I think the reason why the note is faster is because of its low resolution and why the infinity is slow is because the tegra 3 is not capable enough to handle full hd.........
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Thats not the only reason, Prime was lower resolution and that device was slow too.
Loading your tablet up with craplets will slow it down.
It's pretty obvious that if it is performing like you want initially after a fresh factory reset, but then after loading it up with stuff it slows down, then it is most likely the stuff you added, not the box itself. It's just like a windows box basically, as someone else noted. Windows machines are a wreck after a while with all the little DLLs, services, drivers, etc that muck up an installation over time. I really have gotten to where I settle on just one or two go to apps in each category rather than install and leave multiple redundant apps on the machine.
I also avoid "freemium" games like the plague. Those things are like user installed malware. They leave stuff running on your machine all the time, pop notifiers, etc.
An occasional reboot or cold boot might be a healthy thing to do, too, since depending on your system config, Android may not be aggressive about reclaiming memory, etc, and you don't want it to hit eMMC as hard since it is slow on the TFs.
hi everyone,
i want to ask if anyone also has experienced slowdowns and framerate hiccups in certian emulators (MD.emu, NES.emu, SNES9X EX+...) since the OTA 72 like me? I allready made a full factoryn reset with no success
Hey same trouble here, same emulators. What's sad is it just seems to be slow enough to cheapen the experience. Like you get just a few dropped frames here and there or you can turn frameskip off and get horrible sound crackling. Funny, I did the same factory reset, too. This sucks I would hate to backtrack. I was really looking forward to being able to charge and still use my usb port.
And I just did some digging around the Shield forums before posting this. We are certainly not the only ones with this issue.
DarkJoker said:
hi everyone,
i want to ask if anyone also has experienced slowdowns and framerate hiccups in certian emulators (MD.emu, NES.emu, SNES9X EX+...) since the OTA 72 like me? I allready made a full factoryn reset with no success
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Jesse L said:
Hey same trouble here, same emulators. What's sad is it just seems to be slow enough to cheapen the experience. Like you get just a few dropped frames here and there or you can turn frameskip off and get horrible sound crackling. Funny, I did the same factory reset, too. This sucks I would hate to backtrack. I was really looking forward to being able to charge and still use my usb port.
And I just did some digging around the Shield forums before posting this. We are certainly not the only ones with this issue.
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Ah Darn yea I'm experiencing barely noticeable performance changes to my emulators, although very minor like you said it does cheapen the experience to a once nearly perfect experience minus the small audio latency in android.
What version of Android is on an out of box unit? I want one just for emulators, so if I buy one at Gamestop, I will not update.
I wrote to the developer of the .emu apps Robert Broglia and got the following answer:
Hi, this is a known issue and from my testing I found 2 problems with the 4.4 update:
1. The CPU speed decreases to very low levels if you don't push any buttons on the gamepad, causing dropped frames
2. The refresh rate is now incorrectly reported as 60.03Hz when it's actually 59.94Hz causing timing issues
I reported these problems to Nvidia and they said they're looking into it. Hopefully they can fix this in the next OS update.
Now i'm hoping that Nvidia is making an update soon to get rid of these bugs/problems.
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I wrote to the developer of the .emu apps Robert Broglia and got the following answer:
Hi, this is a known issue and from my testing I found 2 problems with the 4.4 update:
1. The CPU speed decreases to very low levels if you don't push any buttons on the gamepad, causing dropped frames
2. The refresh rate is now incorrectly reported as 60.03Hz when it's actually 59.94Hz causing timing issues
I reported these problems to Nvidia and they said they're looking into it. Hopefully they can fix this in the next OS update.
Now i'm hoping that Nvidia is making an update soon to get rid of these bugs/problems.
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if nvidia will fix this I am gonna eat a cow.
Is this an Nvidia Shield issue, or a 4.4 issue for all devices?
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It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
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It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
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I dont think its possible, i tried going back to 4.3 and it bricked my shield. I didnt spend much time on it but i think once youre on 4.4 youre stuck.
updated and rooted today -no emulators lag
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- root from github works (no superuser app was installed but it works without any just fine --donno how.. ok for me! )
- SD fix from NextApp works with no issues. It was the first thing I did and Folder Mount worked ok right after then next reboot.
- mounting points changed again.. now internal is on /storage/emulated/0 and SD is at /storage/sdcard1
- no emulators lag or anything unusual.. work great as before. No difference in frame rates for android games also.. everything as before. Also didn't noticed CPU scaling differently. Same interactive governor.. no hick-ups when using only touch...
- I previously had a random screen flicker on the left side of the display, when using overlay program like cool tools (as I run it all the time)-- in all 65-67-68 builds. Now it's gone
- 99% of my apps work ok after root and sd fix. (MC3 for example was the only one that now seems unsupported and it crashes at start. And on the market is gone for the shield.)
- more polished UI, bit more fluid. Boot time slightly better (for my ~200 apps or so).
- redesigned nvidia TegraZone (now more games options );
- GRID beta now works but I only tried grid (the racing game) -and it was not controller. Onlive still a much better alternative.
- even more mature GameMapper app
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- microphone doesn't work anymore (audalyzer, widgetsoid -rec button feature, smart voice recorder, voice search.. nada!). Strange..
- a bug that previously had on all builds it's still there: a while after reboot when I press the volume button then "+" and "-" buttons do not work.
- MC3 it's not supported anymore
- now testing another bug that I previously had: no matter the video player (I have MX and BS Player), when streaming a movie from my desktop or whatever (tried from laptop also), after about an hour or so of continuous streaming.. sudden reboot... i believe it's not a temperature issues, since locally (from sdcard) the movie played for 3 hours straight with the shield wrapped in a scarf and everything was ok. Router at work also tested. The sharing method it's via file browsers like fx explorer or ES (and tried both).. no SMB mount (I don't have a different kernel with cifs.. just share from windows and then browsed to the network drive).
Your mx player bug sounds a bit specific to your setup. I havent experienced that yet, i use mx myself, and have streamed several movies from my laptop and never had a reboot with 4.3 or 4.4.
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It's a 4.4 issue, you get less fps in 4.4 than in 4.3 and I'm soooo pissed cause I can't use my SD card. Could you downgrade the shield back to 4.3?
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The only place I see concern about this is Shield forums. No reports of this for non Shield devices. Seems if a 4.4 issue in general for all devices, we would see a lot of folks posting, since a lot of forum dwellers notice these things. Even on non gaming type devices.
Does the Shield have 4.3 out of box and is there a way to turn off updating WITHOUT root?
Have you tried using retroarch instead of the paid ones?
I ordered one from Best Buy, since Gamestop has a no return policy. If still on 4.3 and I can stop updates without rooting, I will keep it.
I have little if any desire to play PC games on 5" display. I find the 10.6" display on my V11 Pro almost too small with Farcry, Halo and the Unreal Tournament games.
This will be a game emulator station for me.
I do love the kit kat update an all.. NVIDIA shield runs great on Stock android starting from 4.3 to kitkat, i can berely notice the difference in performance in the OS it self.. The problems arise in the emulators. Slowdowns, and sound crackling, more than the usual 1 or 2 in various emulators. Just like the other posters stated. It really does take away from the experience. Not sure if PC streaming is really effected much.. seem to run the same to me.... i only tried out real boxing for android games, that ran smooth still... haven't tried any other android game yet.... This caused me to Downgrade back to 4.3 using Shield RAM v1.0.. for those of you looking to downgrade back, hurry and get it while you can, before the develeper updates that great little Program using the latest kitkat update 72 from NVIDIA....
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I do love the kit kat update an all.. NVIDIA shield runs great on Stock android starting from 4.3 to kitkat, i can berely notice the difference in performance in the OS it self.. The problems arise in the emulators. Slowdowns, and sound crackling, more than the usual 1 or 2 in various emulators. Just like the other posters stated. It really does take away from the experience. Not sure if PC streaming is really effected much.. seem to run the same to me.... i only tried out real boxing for android games, that ran smooth still... haven't tried any other android game yet.... This caused me to Downgrade back to 4.3 using Shield RAM v1.0.. for those of you looking to downgrade back, hurry and get it while you can, before the develeper updates that great little Program using the latest kitkat update 72 from NVIDIA....
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I would like to update a to 4.3, but absolutely not to 4.4. Was hoping 4.3 was on the device out of box, but has 4.2. Emulators are my main focus, so a performance hit and the sd issues are reasons to avoid 4.4.
Google is starting to suck real bad like Apple.
Fortunately Nvidia allows you to unlock your boot loader and root your device. With root, you can fix SD card issues and stutter problems for emulators by increasing the minimum frequency when using those apps
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Fortunately Nvidia allows you to unlock your boot loader and root your device. With root, you can fix SD card issues and stutter problems for emulators by increasing the minimum frequency when using those apps
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Confirmed here.. no need to downgrade any longer.... can have the latest kit kat with no more hick ups as far as emulation and SD Card goes... thanks again
DJFresh82 said:
Confirmed here.. no need to downgrade any longer.... can have the latest kit kat with no more hick ups as far as emulation and SD Card goes... thanks again
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Would you please try the GBA.emu with Castlevania Aria of Sorrow?
Please try it with, and without changing the cpu freqs. Also w/o frame skip.
Just skip all the text, and go right into the game where you're walking to the right and killing Zombies. If it doesn't lag I'd be amazed.
I'm asking about that emu and game, because it seemed like one of the hardest hit emulators that works perfectly well before KitKat.
I downgraded some time ago to 4.3, otherwise I would try myself. But I remember that game was unplayable with KitKat, and perfect on Jellybean.
My next question is, why isn't the Shield getting better battery life? (Because we think the cpu is less aggressive in KitKat)
For me it got worse in KitKat, streaming used to be an easy 6+ hours, now the Shield almost never reaches 4.5 hours SOT when doing anything!
I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU/governor (in general) I think it's something to do with the update.
Regardless, I'm pretty happy with Jellybean. There's a few things I wish I could do, like charge and USB host at the same time, but there's really not much that KitKat actually brought to the table that you can't use with Jellybean. (remote streaming, gamepad mapper)
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Would you please try the GBA.emu with Castlevania Aria of Sorrow?
Please try it with, and without changing the cpu freqs. Also w/o frame skip.
Just skip all the text, and go right into the game where you're walking to the right and killing Zombies. If it doesn't lag I'd be amazed.
I'm asking about that emu and game, because it seemed like one of the hardest hit emulators that works perfectly well before KitKat.
I downgraded some time ago to 4.3, otherwise I would try myself. But I remember that game was unplayable with KitKat, and perfect on Jellybean.
My next question is, why isn't the Shield getting better battery life? (Because we think the cpu is less aggressive in KitKat)
For me it got worse in KitKat, streaming used to be an easy 6+ hours, now the Shield almost never reaches 4.5 hours SOT when doing anything!
I don't think it has anything to do with the CPU/governor (in general) I think it's something to do with the update.
Regardless, I'm pretty happy with Jellybean. There's a few things I wish I could do, like charge and USB host at the same time, but there's really not much that KitKat actually brought to the table that you can't use with Jellybean. (remote streaming, gamepad mapper)
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Hello, I feel your pain with the battery life after updating to kit kat.. i tried out Castlavania: Aria of Sorrow without any CPU cpu freqs changes and setting frameskip to 0.. I personally use my!boy.. but tried out the emu.gba, it's running smooth to me.. no frame skips what so ever.. My shield is Rooted with the SDFix.. Maybe that has something to do with it.. not sure.. but it runs smooth for me.. I won't reccomend to update to kit kat and it doesn't work out for you.. If your comfortable with Jelly bean, stick with that.. I downgraded from KitKat originally also, and went back to jellybean 4.3, that's what originally came with my shield when i baught it from Game stop.. I knew there would be some devs and talented other users that would fix these emulation issues with kitkat..
As far as the battery life goes.. I don't know the answer to that as of now... It does seem like it's an NVIDIA problem IMO also.. but I could be wrong about that one.. Just do what your comfortable with.. stay with Jellybean if everything is working the way it should for you... If you decide to update back to KitKat.. I suggest you root, and use the SDFIX app from the app store.. along with SET CPU for emus with the slow downs that eikast suggested (thanks again for that).. for now until NVIDIA releases another update for the shield... not sure how long that would be though....
Post your experience with Lollipop on the Note 3; things you like, things that are different, problems you have had, solutions you have found., so that others can benefit.
I've tried two ROMS based on the leak, echoes and flex. I really like many of the features, but I have reverted back to KitKat for now.
It seems many of the TV-watching applications, such as Disney XD, Cartoon Network, etc. do not support Lollipop yet. For me, they crash on video playback. I ran into at least one game, Crossy Road, that crashes too.
I also had a strange issue with WIFI. I could connect to my 2.4 Ghz band just fine, but could not even see the 5Ghz access point. After I reverted to KitKat it was fine.
When ROMS based on the official release for my region come out, I will try again
@burtcom is it possible to revert back from lollipop?
Can you root it? What about xposed framework?
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@burtcom is it possible to revert back from lollipop?
Can you root it? What about xposed framework?
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Yes -- I ran into a few problems but I managed it.
Essentially I downloaded a KitKat rom from Sammobile, then flashed with Odin. I ran into an issue with the flash, and had to reflash with a PIT file.
That gave me a stock KitKat, which I then had to root by flashing CF-Auto-Root-hlte-hltexx
Finally I flashed philz_touch_6.13.0 for recovery
Took all morning yesterday. I found a few threads on XDA which helped a lot, I'll see if I can dig them up.
I flashed the leak and other than the odd bit of stutter it's been as solid, if not more than kitkat.
One of my favourite new features is the trusted devices. I keep my phone pin locked but I can now set it so I can just swipe to unlock if my smart watch or Bluetooth hands free is connected. I walk out of range and it pin locks again.
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xposed will not work with Lollipop, unfortunately.
I liked it so far but until Sammy release the source code then we are limited with mods. The leak is solid with some expected bugs but with more releases it will surpass kit Kat very quickly. ..
I went back kit Kat though just cause no official room is our yet and I like xposed framework mods. ...
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I am very happy and have been since the first leak. Encountered no issues whatsoever, experiencing much better battery life, and other than a fee complaints (white menus etc) it's a solid improvement that makes this feel like a new and improved phone.
I do miss Xposed, but I mainly used it for battery tweaks and notification bar shading, which Lollipop resolves for me anyway.
I've been using Echoe ROM for the past month and I'm very pleased with it.
For me battery life is better than it was with Kitkat, Touchwiz works properly and I've not gone back to Nova.
There are a few things you need to get used to like interruptions, but all in all its an improvement over Kitkat.
As soon as some of the apps catch up with Lollipop it will be perfect.
hi thinking to try lollipop, so what is the most stable rom and less bugs?
I installed the leak on 1st release and found it awesome much better than KK.
However once I got my LG G Watch R for Xmas it was a total disaster
My watch would not stay paired for love nor money rendering it almost useless as a smart watch
I would go back to lollipop in a heartbeat if it worked with my watch ok.
Long story short.
Pros:
+ the thing is DAMN fast.
+ me gusta material design.
+ yes, better battery life.
+ the insane multitasking added from the Note 4. It's like that the Alt+Tab has an Alt+Tab.
Cons:
- WHAT THE **** IS WITH ALL THAT WHITE ON AN AMOLED SCREEN
- Did I mention the white all over the place? And the cyan? That color scheme can make me poke my eyes out just for s**ts and giggles. Don't mistake me, I like the design, but the color scheme is hideous.
- While overall navigation, opening apps and the such, IS fast, Recent Apps can have a bit of an odd delay.
- No Xposed yet. :/ Well, rovo89 warned us we might have to wait.
Also, I must commend Samsung with the Troll OEM of the year award for updating the N900 and the I9500 to Lollipop before any of the Note 4 variants.
P.S. I also hope to all gods that Samsung f***ing implemented Ultra Power Saving Mode that doesn't need a mod to be made available. Such a mode should be made available for any device with an OLED screen.
to all who flashed official 5.0 (XXUEBOA6) by odin, can you check your bootloader version? thank you so much.
Installed the BLN8 which ran fantastic, but what the hole is wrong with the battery usage??? It drane 20% an hour, just laying in my pocket!
Installed CM12 which is awesome, but waiting for a stable Sammy firmware so I can get my S-view functionality back.
Memory Leak and Lags
Can anyone of u who have installed Lollipop confirm that you never experience lags or memory leak after few days usage (continuously without restart) ?
i cant flash philz touch recovery.
flashed rom
flashed cwm
then flashed philz touch
everything is normal for this step.
but when i reboot phone im trying to boot in recovery it boot in stock recovery.
i tried flash supersu stuck on samsung logo.
anyone solve this problems?
Edit : problems are solved
Thanks for making this separate thread:
I am very new to Android devices, Note 3 is my 2nd device.. earlier device Lava IRIS died within a week (it was a very old handset)
Used BB a lot and tried apple as well.
My experience with lollipop as a layman.
Pros:
1. Application loading is bit faster comparatively.. consumes little less battery especially with large apps.
2. Using internet related applications, (playing online games consumes less battery with improved performance)
3. Device gets charged more quickly..
From 0% to 100% in less then a hour. (using official cables)
Cons:
1. The white menus everywhere (too disturbing for eyes, if there is no way to change this. I will get to Kitkat again). I really hate this new interface.
2. Weird brightness issue, its too dim sometimes and gets fixed automatically.. (disabling auto brightness and making it run on 10) wont give that brightness when you are standing on road under sun.. cannot view mobile properly like reading messages etc under sun.
3. Massive battery drain.. not sure when/where its happening..
a. Idle mode consumes lot of battery.
b. Use same old Background applications I suppose, which ran normal on Kitkat mite be consuming more battery now..
4. It takes almost double time to hold home key to kill all recent apps..
5. Device gets charged way too slow (when using unofficial cables from chines mobile phones etc.)
Will share more as comes to mind..
Power button menu
I flashed the Russian ROM without factory reset. Overall it's working fine so far.
WTF with this new power button menu ?!! .. I won't go into the hassle of the missing Silent mode for favor of Priority ... but do I have to unlock the device each time to change the sound mode ?!! ... Who's this idiot in Samsung who came up with this ?!!!
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I flashed the Russian ROM without factory reset. Overall it's working fine so far.
WTF with this new power button menu ?!! .. I won't go into the hassle of the missing Silent mode for favor of Priority ... but do I have to unlock the device each time to change the sound mode ?!! ... Who's this idiot in Samsung who came up with this ?!!!
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That's really sad. I liked to hold power button and get to mute or vibration mode.
Gone now or ca;not find the best thing
I like Lollipop.
Yes, there are a few Xposed modules, that I do miss sometimes, but I still prefer Lollipop.
The design is nice, white color on that AMOLED screen isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The color in notification area and settings isn't the nicest, but I can live with it. Isn't too much of a problem for me to go and edit it.
Battery life is far superior than on KitKat (honestly, I tried - downgraded to KitKat, ran in same configuration for 1 day, battery life was a lot worse)
Performance-wise I can see some improvement as well (yay for Android Runtime).
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5th day since I had last restart, no issues with that.
Hi there, If I flash it with Odin , will I lose all installed software and configurations?
Also I have Knox Status: 1 .... Does it matter for this kind of flashing?
I don't have that much time to upgrade and then having to install every single app and setup wifi etc..
Thanks!
If not I will just flash it straight away.
Hi everyone,
So i've tried 2 lolipop roms now (currently on the resurrection remix) and i'm experiencing very slow performance on all of them. Typical scenario i'm in an app (lets say chrome) i hit the center home button and then the app drawer button; its taking forever to show the apps and sometimes i will just get a black screen. Just earlier i went into settings and after clicking something it took a few seconds to actually register. I dont remember experiencing this slowness on kitkat or jellybean for that matter. Is it just me?
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Hi everyone,
So i've tried 2 lolipop roms now (currently on the resurrection remix) and i'm experiencing very slow performance on all of them. Typical scenario i'm in an app (lets say chrome) i hit the center home button and then the app drawer button; its taking forever to show the apps and sometimes i will just get a black screen. Just earlier i went into settings and after clicking something it took a few seconds to actually register. I dont remember experiencing this slowness on kitkat or jellybean for that matter. Is it just me?
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No you are not.
I am experiencing the same and i am thinking everyone is experiencing this.
I would guess it's a Ram problem, cause thats the reason for all performance problems i had on this Phone, it has always been Ram/Ram-Management.
Take a look at the develpoment Page of CM12.
On the last Pages it seems like C has found a way to make this Rom really really Snappy, but he is still in testing.
Let's hope he will publish it soon.
Greetz Esok44
Check this rom, it's the fastest Lollipop rom I tried for now http://www.droidrzr.com/topic/61544-rom502aosp-aod-dark-updated-03-20-15
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Check this rom, it's the fastest Lollipop rom I tried for now http://www.droidrzr.com/topic/61544-rom502aosp-aod-dark-updated-03-20-15
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its as good as the CM versions were a month or so ago. It seems the lollipop performance has dropped off lately as they've added in additional features. I'm on that rom right now because another one became unusable, but its got the same issues as other LP roms, namely multi-tasking and occasional awful performance (but yes, its probably the best of the bunch right now today as far as current roms go).
I'm seriously considering dropping back to KK
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its as good as the CM versions were a month or so ago. It seems the lollipop performance has dropped off lately as they've added in additional features. I'm on that rom right now because another one became unusable, but its got the same issues as other LP roms, namely multi-tasking and occasional awful performance (but yes, its probably the best of the bunch right now today as far as current roms go).
I'm seriously considering dropping back to KK
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The memory leaks are to blame. Its not even device specific. They are trying to work on it. Word is CM12.1 should fix it, but i've heard mixed reviews on that. But yes, CM11 might be the best bet.
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5.1 fixes this
I just installed 5.1 by epinter and I have to say it runs amazingly fast, smooth and stable.
Everything that bugged me out is gone.
You can keep Whatsapp, Chrome and Maps in Memory - it's just awesome.
It's also very snappy and apps start a lot faster.
And keep in mind this is the first attempt at porting 5.1.
Did I mention the battery lasts almost 50% longer as well at my first day of usage?
I'm usually first in line to update firmware, but when Lollipop first launched I decided to wait until a stable custom ROM was released, and in retrospect, I'm glad I did because from what I've seen and heard, Lollipop has been a big bust.
Now I am getting a little antsy to update, but reading about the 5.1.1 gives me no confidence. Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues? Can anyone attest to this? Should I just stay with KK? Are the custom ROM's any better or do they suffer from the same issues as stock ROM? I'm really disappointed with Google on this. They came out touting this and that about Lollipop, and it seems they've fallen flat on all those promises.
Stay with KitKat. 5.1.1 fixed/improved the memleak, that's it. It's still not as fast as 4.4.4. There are also issues with flashlight, camera, bounce scrolling, etc.
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Apparently the Nexus 5 still suffers from laggy performance, battery drain, and other performance issues?
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It's impossible to generalise this statement because our usage and setup is all different.
You also have to remember that the internet is for complaining, and you won't hear about or read equivalent posts with little or no issues...
My view: take a nandroid backup of your current setup. Full wipe and flash one of the latest ROMs and test for yourself.
If you discover any of these issues, then restore. If you like what you discover: win!
There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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"If it ain't broken, don't fix it ".
4.4.4 works great. Why mess with it? What's so much better with LP? Save yourself the aggravation.
My 2 cents.
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Google ain't listening yo
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Google ain't listening yo
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You got that right. ?
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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You got that right.
Shame on Google. But we're the customers, and the customer is always right.
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Nah, that's a myth. Always has been.
Anyways, thanks for the input everyone. I think I will try dual-booting Lollipop, or whatever we call it on Android
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Lollipop is working perfectly for me
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
Lollipop has more eye-candy to offer while performing a lot faster. The whole OS looks more refined by now and ART is a huge step in comparison to Dalvik.
Ofc some Apps might not work on Lollipop yet but I think you would miss out a lot since Android 5.1.1 ( Stock ROM ) is the fastest update I´ve ever tried.
Just downgraded 2 of my N5's to KK.
My wife hated it and I like Xposed too much.
Now that Xposed is working in 5.1.1 I will probably upgrade and give it a try again.
I keep a 3rd N5 on Kitkat and use multiRom to experiment.
5.1.1 is fast and looks good but IMHO its not as stable as KK, at least not yet anyway, i went back to KK on sunday and it was like getting my phone back, feels more solid and battery life is much better, you very well may regret upgrading.
Lolipop for me became an excercise in searching for wakelocks and trying to diagnose leaks and what was draining the phone, with Kitkat theres no hassle, it just works by itself, the way in should.
edit: i also found the signal coverage patchy on Lolipop, phone would take ages searching for a signal if it lost it,
other complaints i had were mystery battery drains and maps stalling when driving, basic stuff really.
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There is no reason to use KitKat only ( I know some guys will use Xposed as a reason ).
Lollipop has never been terrible, laggy or buggy as hell. I know that some guys have complained but some users don´t know how to handle a device.
They install every App available ( no matter if they need it or not ), collect every game ( no matter if some of these games are considered to be Malware eg. Mother of My** ).
Every system might be throttled down with 500+ Apps active and using their push notifications like there´s no tomorrow.
I never ever had any trouble with Lollipop and would never ever want to move back for good to KitKat only.
I use KitKat 4.4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 on my Nexus 7 ( 2013 ) with Multirom but use Lollipop most the time. KitKat is just for testing purposes only if some App I really want to use, would fail to start on Lollipop.
You could try the same and use Multirom for Nexus 5. This way you can use both OS and sooner or later, maybe remove Kitkat and stick to Lollipop+ only
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I think this is the best answer and prospect of the whole Kitkat vs Lollipop talk. I never had any problem when i was running the latest Lollipop and custom roms. Saying that Lollipop isn't stable is just saying "you are ****" to the google developers. I mean they are the best engineering and programmers in the World.
I am really glad that i bought Nexus 5 from Samsung flagship phones because i could really dig up the community of android and indie developers providing something for the community. Hell, i even bought Galaxy Nexus after i realized Nexus line phones aren't that bad.
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What do you find about it that's better than kitkat? Just want to know.
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It feels snappier, I think the upgrade uses less resources