SIM free in the USA? - Note Edge Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Here in the UK you can buy your phone, branded, on contract, or SIM free and unbranded from carriers and many other retailers.
In another thread, the poster said
I love my Edge and so much so I returned my att model and bought the T-Mobile version and rooted it.
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This implies to me that he couldn't get it SIM free. Is this not an option in the USA?
Excuse my ignorance, but I have often wondered how it works in the old colonies.

NineToTheSky said:
Here in the UK you can buy your phone, branded, on contract, or SIM free and unbranded from carriers and many other retailers.
In another thread, the poster said This implies to me that he couldn't get it SIM free. Is this not an option in the USA?
Excuse my ignorance, but I have often wondered how it works in the old colonies.
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Nope, Freedom isn't always free. LoL Here is the US, some carriers lock their phones, Some use CDMA (Sprint/Verizon) technology, So they won't work well on the GSM networks. They also use different bands, to make matters worse, so if you do what the person above did, there are parts of the US that don't use Tmobiles bands, so he will lose 4G LTE. AT&T made it even worse, because they have the bootloader locked and now you can't even root it and get rid of carrier apps. (At least not until some Dev figures out how to unlock it) My AT&T is carrier unlocked, there are websites that will do this for a price. So if I wanted to, I could drop another SIM carriers card in it and use it. But since I am on AT&T's Next plan, I will be paying on this phone for 30 months. (Cost the same as full price, but spread over 30 months interest free)

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Good (US?) online shops for unlocked phones?

Looking for a good online shop in the US that sells unlocked phones.
I know Expansys is great, but their selection of phones for the US is abysmal.
(Try finding an unlocked phone that supports US 3G! Ha!)
Any other REPUTABLE shops?
eBay is a very good choice for online shops
there is cellhut.com also, but i haven't bought anything from them.
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Cell Hut
CellHut doesn't seem to sell US 3G devices. so they are out/crap.
Huh, I think that a Google search can help you very much
nathanpc said:
Huh, I think that a Google search can help you very much
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Sadly not.
Try it.
Huh. Yeah, this is one of the times that Google doesn't help
big phone selections but you have to stop to deal with price in shop ( usaly 10-20 % down of price ) gandhiappliances http://www.gandhiappliances.com/
or popularelect http://www.popularelect.com/
www.mobilecity.com
www.xpansys.com
lakeg said:
big phone selections but you have to stop to deal with price in shop ( usaly 10-20 % down of price ) gandhiappliances http://www.gandhiappliances.com/
or popularelect http://www.popularelect.com/
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Thanks.
Too bad only that these fvcktards all sell european versions of phones which do not work with US 3G.
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/
ilgaz said:
http://www.onthegosolutions.com/
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Not bad - like how they at least declare which phones are US 3g and which aren't.
They do have the Magic and the Hero but both are overpriced by about $100.
No Acer Liquid (which is the phone I have my eye on, now that it is out)
The best place that beats any other onlines store in the US or EU that I've used is Clove.co.uk.
The reason that you're not finding ANY phones with US 3G is because no manufacturer sells any phones unlocked in the US market. (Except for a select few phones) For that try BestBuy.com or go to a Best Buy in person. They are expensive and they only support AT&T 3G.
The point is, finiding an Unlocked phone you want with US 3G will be tough. Rumors are that the Sony X10 will have T-Mo US 3G. Until Manufacturers start making Quadband 3G unlocked phones you will be stuck with edge. Right now that's the price you pay for buying a phone that the US market won't see ever (or for atleast 6 months) and not being under contract. I think that's still a deal.
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So if you really want 3G, sign another contract and get a phone from the carrier. Right now that's the only way. Don't yuo wish the US used EU's Carrier System here and their 3G bands?
Fix: Let me fix something. Looks like they need to make phones that have 5 or 6 3G Bands in order to be true 3G World phones. They would be 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
1900/2100 for Europe/Asia
850/1900 for AT&T
800/850/1900/2100 for Japan but mainly 1900/2100
and 1700/2100 for T-Mo US
900 for Australia and other.
So if you want an unlocked 3G phone make sure it has the 850/1900 bands if you have AT&T or the 1700/2100 if you use T-MO. Just because they state the phone has US 3G does not mean it will work on your carrier.
HTC Touch Freak said:
The best place that beats any other onlines store in the US or EU that I've used is Clove.co.uk.
The reason that you're not finding ANY phones with US 3G is because no manufacturer sells any phones unlocked in the US market. (Except for a select few phones) For that try BestBuy.com or go to a Best Buy in person. They are expensive and they only support AT&T 3G.
The point is, finiding an Unlocked phone you want with US 3G will be tough. Rumors are that the Sony X10 will have T-Mo US 3G. Until Manufacturers start making Quadband 3G unlocked phones you will be stuck with edge. Right now that's the price you pay for buying a phone that the US market won't see ever (or for atleast 6 months) and not being under contract. I think that's still a deal.
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So if you really want 3G, sign another contract and get a phone from the carrier. Right now that's the only way. Don't yuo wish the US used EU's Carrier System here and their 3G bands?
Fix: Let me fix something. Looks like they need to make phones that have 5 or 6 3G Bands in order to be true 3G World phones. They would be 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
1900/2100 for Europe/Asia
850/1900 for AT&T
800/850/1900/2100 for Japan but mainly 1900/2100
and 1700/2100 for T-Mo US
900 for Australia and other.
So if you want an unlocked 3G phone make sure it has the 850/1900 bands if you have AT&T or the 1700/2100 if you use T-MO. Just because they state the phone has US 3G does not mean it will work on your carrier.
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I know.
Which is why I am looking for 850/1900/2100 phones.
The primary reason (if you ask me) why you don't see many unlocked phones being sold is twofold:
1. Price
2. Most stores are fvcktards: they don't even know that they are selling a 'crippled' phone even if you point it out to them.
Good examples are the 3 phones I have been looking at recently: HTC Hero and Magic as well as the Acer A1.
The majority of stores will happily sell you a EURO phone without telling you that it won't work. The ones that have the NAM version, will sell it to you for $100-$150 'over price'.
I am even willing to give them some leeway, since Hero and Magic are carrier bound in the US and HTC might not be allowed to ship the NAM version to US stores (making it more difficult/expensive for stores to sell them [not sure if that is legal though]).
What pisses me off big time (and proves that stores are absolute fvcktards) are phones, like the Acer A1, which are not bound to a carrier and will never get sold in the US unless they are sold as unlocked phones. Those stupid dickheads at the stores can't even sell that phone with the proper model in the proper market and the morons at the manufacturers spend millions on advertising/publicity but then can't even get products into stores!
I agree ALL GSM phones should have quad-gsm and quad-3G frequencies.
So last but not least it is also the phone manufacturers fault, since they should build quad-GSM/3G phones!
coolVariable said:
I know.
Which is why I am looking for 850/1900/2100 phones.
The primary reason (if you ask me) why you don't see many unlocked phones being sold is twofold:
1. Price
2. Most stores are fvcktards: they don't even know that they are selling a 'crippled' phone even if you point it out to them.
Good examples are the 3 phones I have been looking at recently: HTC Hero and Magic as well as the Acer A1.
The majority of stores will happily sell you a EURO phone without telling you that it won't work. The ones that have the NAM version, will sell it to you for $100-$150 'over price'.
I am even willing to give them some leeway, since Hero and Magic are carrier bound in the US and HTC might not be allowed to ship the NAM version to US stores (making it more difficult/expensive for stores to sell them [not sure if that is legal though]).
What pisses me off big time (and proves that stores are absolute fvcktards) are phones, like the Acer A1, which are not bound to a carrier and will never get sold in the US unless they are sold as unlocked phones. Those stupid dickheads at the stores can't even sell that phone with the proper model in the proper market and the morons at the manufacturers spend millions on advertising/publicity but then can't even get products into stores!
I agree ALL GSM phones should have quad-gsm and quad-3G frequencies.
So last but not least it is also the phone manufacturers fault, since they should build quad-GSM/3G phones!
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I wouldn't blame the stores on anything. Yes they know they are not selling a NAM 3G compatible device but it will work on edge. It's not their fault that it only woks on edge in NA. Blame the manufacturer.
Phones like the G1, and magic you can get with US bands but they are only T-Mo US 3G bands. (I have yet to see an AT&T one Besides the phone from Rogers) I have not seen an Unlocked Hero with NAM bands. If there was one It'd be in my pocket.
Again, Most of the unlocked phones that you are seeing that have NAM 3G are either T-mobile only or AT&T only. So you still have to be catious when you buy the phone. The US sellers that sell unlocked phones are selling the exact same EU/Asian unlocked phones that the EU sites are selling. Why? Because that's all there is to sell. And typically the US sites sell the phones at a higher price because they can.
Clove.Co.UK I got my Topaz the day it came out and it cost me $520 USD shipped (From the UK to CO). Other US based sites had the phone for $580+ excluding shipping.
My final word is that we all should send E-mails to HTC Worldwide stating that we want phones with True World 3G compatibility. We refuse to buy carrier branded phones and need the extra bands for personal and buisness use when traveling abroad. Even the EU and Asain Versions should come with "World 3G" bands. They do travel to the US and having 3G work here benifits productivity. Heck even users of branded US phones travel to EU/Asia for buisness and not having their 3G effects their productivity which in turns slows down world productivity and in the end hurts the world economy because someone had to wait 40 more seconds to DL something.
HTC Touch Freak said:
I wouldn't blame the stores on anything. Yes they know they are not selling a NAM 3G compatible device but it will work on edge. It's not their fault that it only woks on edge in NA. Blame the manufacturer.
Phones like the G1, and magic you can get with US bands but they are only T-Mo US 3G bands. (I have yet to see an AT&T one Besides the phone from Rogers) I have not seen an Unlocked Hero with NAM bands. If there was one It'd be in my pocket.
Again, Most of the unlocked phones that you are seeing that have NAM 3G are either T-mobile only or AT&T only. So you still have to be catious when you buy the phone. The US sellers that sell unlocked phones are selling the exact same EU/Asian unlocked phones that the EU sites are selling. Why? Because that's all there is to sell. And typically the US sites sell the phones at a higher price because they can.
Clove.Co.UK I got my Topaz the day it came out and it cost me $520 USD shipped (From the UK to CO). Other US based sites had the phone for $580+ excluding shipping.
My final word is that we all should send E-mails to HTC Worldwide stating that we want phones with True World 3G compatibility. We refuse to buy carrier branded phones and need the extra bands for personal and buisness use when traveling abroad. Even the EU and Asain Versions should come with "World 3G" bands. They do travel to the US and having 3G work here benifits productivity. Heck even users of branded US phones travel to EU/Asia for buisness and not having their 3G effects their productivity which in turns slows down world productivity and in the end hurts the world economy because someone had to wait 40 more seconds to DL something.
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I absolutely blame the stores (as well as the manufacturers) and you should too! The HTC Magic and the HTC Hero are not only made with US 3G bands ... you can even buy them unlocked in certain stores (usually for $100-$150 more than the EU version). Do your research!
(e.g. unlocked Hero w. at&t 3G: http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1)
But it's not only phones like the Magic/Hero (which after all are sold in the US carrier bound) - the same is true for phones that are not bound to a US carrier (e.g. Acer A1, Acer F1, certain Nokia phones, ...).
There is no reason why US (online) stores (or even the manufacturers) can't sell those unlocked at full retail price.
coolVariable said:
I absolutely blame the stores (as well as the manufacturers) and you should too! The HTC Magic and the HTC Hero are not only made with US 3G bands ... you can even buy them unlocked in certain stores (usually for $100-$150 more than the EU version). Do your research!
(e.g. unlocked Hero w. at&t 3G: http://www.importgsm.com/product.php?productid=660&cat=0&page=1)
But it's not only phones like the Magic/Hero (which after all are sold in the US carrier bound) - the same is true for phones that are not bound to a US carrier (e.g. Acer A1, Acer F1, certain Nokia phones, ...).
There is no reason why US (online) stores (or even the manufacturers) can't sell those unlocked at full retail price.
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Dude Research. That is not an Unlocked Hero. That is a Branded Rogers and/or Telus Hero. Which is LOCKED. You have to buy it from Telus/Rogers Unlock it then use it on AT&T. If a store online wanted to sell it Unlocked they have a right to sell it to you for $150 more than an unlocked EU version.
Just look at the facts. This is AMERICA. The phone companies will not sell you a phone they carry and your carrier doesn't. It's called competition and Greed. They lock you in to a contract and "make" you use their phones that they want to carry.
In EU carriers don't care. I'll use US carriers as an example of how they work and we should to. I have T-Mo. I want the HD2 and only AT&T carries it. I would walk into the AT&T store and say I wan't the HD2 unlocked. I pay full price pop in my sim and go. Easy as that.
But the US carriers want you locked down. Hence the reason the companies are using different 3G bands than the rest of the world. It's stupid so don't blame the stores that just sell the phone or the manufacturers then. Blame AMERICA.
Mebe you should do the research and READ.
HTC Touch Freak said:
Dude Research. That is not an Unlocked Hero. That is a Branded Rogers and/or Telus Hero. Which is LOCKED. You have to buy it from Telus/Rogers Unlock it then use it on AT&T. If a store online wanted to sell it Unlocked they have a right to sell it to you for $150 more than an unlocked EU version.
Just look at the facts. This is AMERICA. The phone companies will not sell you a phone they carry and your carrier doesn't. It's called competition and Greed. They lock you in to a contract and "make" you use their phones that they want to carry.
In EU carriers don't care. I'll use US carriers as an example of how they work and we should to. I have T-Mo. I want the HD2 and only AT&T carries it. I would walk into the AT&T store and say I wan't the HD2 unlocked. I pay full price pop in my sim and go. Easy as that.
But the US carriers want you locked down. Hence the reason the companies are using different 3G bands than the rest of the world. It's stupid so don't blame the stores that just sell the phone or the manufacturers then. Blame AMERICA.
Mebe you should do the research and READ.
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Maybe YOU should do your research, 'tard!
http://www.negrielectronics.com/product_info.php?products_id=3036
And by the way - great argument why stores are not selling NAM versions of phones THAT AREN'T BOUND TO ANY CARRIER!!!!!!!!!
coolVariable said:
Maybe YOU should do your research, 'tard!
http://www.negrielectronics.com/product_info.php?products_id=3036
And by the way - great argument why stores are not selling NAM versions of phones THAT AREN'T BOUND TO ANY CARRIER!!!!!!!!!
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Bah ha ha ha. Alll that is, is a rogers Hero. I wouldn't be surprised if it had the Rogers logos and software on it. Heck for that much they probably flashed a stock rom and ereased the logo. Not that hard to do you know. 'TARD
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-remove-Logos-from-your-PDA--cell-phone-wit/
There are other more profesional ways to do this. Find them yourself. HTC has no Hero for the US Unlocked or locke. If they did Bestbuy would be selling it. And obviously it only has AT&T 3G which happens to be the same frequencies Rogers uses. Derrrr.

eoic 4g to use in europe!!!

hy. I just bought the new model sprint evo g4
but i'm in Italy.. so only now I comprehend that this model run in w-cdma
so.. what can I do? I've choosed with the stomach and not with the brain.. sigh
I read here post 8465960
that I can change the band that operates.. in order to use it in Europe.
so i'm really scared.. I lost my money in a wasted choice?
thanks in advance
ugo
Resell it unless there is a wcdma provider.... which I don.t think there is.
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ugokind said:
hy. I just bought the new model sprint evo g4
but i'm in Italy.. so only now I comprehend that this model run in w-cdma
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I'm not sure if you are talking about the Epic (post title) or Evo (actual post) but both are sprint phones that run on Sprint's cdma network, which is a lot different from wcdma and I don't think either phone can do wcdma which requires different hardware. I think Italy uses GSM (which is often combined with wcdma, but not cdma) and neither phone will work on that kind of network.
The only thing useful you can do with it is sell it to somebody in the US (or maybe Mexico, Brazil, Singapore, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, Chile, Canada, or another country that uses CDMA). Italy is 100% GSM. Europe is 99.9% GSM (100%, if you don't count any country that used to be part of what was formerly known as "Eastern Europe").
If you have any friends or family members in the US, send the phone to THEM, and have THEM sell it on eBay. As a practical matter, most Americans will be nervous about buying an Epic/Evo from someone in Europe, just because an Epic/Evo *is* so completely useless in Europe, they'll assume it was stolen, or was bought from someone in the US who owed Sprint a lot of money and got the phone's ESN blacklisted (if you owe Sprint money, they'll refuse to activate your old phone for anyone who buys it; because Sprint phones mostly work only on Sprint, and only Sprint phones work on Sprint, it makes their bill-collection effort more efficient).
ugokind said:
hy. I just bought the new model sprint evo g4
but i'm in Italy.. so only now I comprehend that this model run in w-cdma
so.. what can I do? I've choosed with the stomach and not with the brain.. sigh
I read here post 8465960
that I can change the band that operates.. in order to use it in Europe.
so i'm really scared.. I lost my money in a wasted choice?
thanks in advance
ugo
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Sell it. You would be better off with a G2 from T-Mobile for GSM compatibility.
ok
I see..
thanks to everybody for the informations..
i'll sell it asap..
sigh.. I'm sad.. auuuuu
bye
bitbang3r said:
The only thing useful you can do with it is sell it to somebody in the US (or maybe Mexico, Brazil, Singapore, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, Chile, Canada, or another country that uses CDMA). Italy is 100% GSM. Europe is 99.9% GSM (100%, if you don't count any country that used to be part of what was formerly known as "Eastern Europe").
If you have any friends or family members in the US, send the phone to THEM, and have THEM sell it on eBay. As a practical matter, most Americans will be nervous about buying an Epic/Evo from someone in Europe, just because an Epic/Evo *is* so completely useless in Europe, they'll assume it was stolen, or was bought from someone in the US who owed Sprint a lot of money and got the phone's ESN blacklisted (if you owe Sprint money, they'll refuse to activate your old phone for anyone who buys it; because Sprint phones mostly work only on Sprint, and only Sprint phones work on Sprint, it makes their bill-collection effort more efficient).
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stolen? I hope not!!
so in that case I lost my money 2 times!
If you can find Sprint's non-800 number, you can ask them to do an "ESN Check" and they'll tell you whether or not the phone is clean & can be activated.
Worst-case, if Sprint can't/won't activate the phone, you're now the owner of a very expensive wi-fi Android tablet with a small screen. The good news is that, unlike windows mobile devices, it's still useful even if you never activate it as a phone.
Alternatively, as long as you have the MSL code (you DID get the MSL code, right? That's the code that unlocks the phone), you can sell it to someone who's in a country with CDMA besides the US, Mexico, or Canada (Brazil, Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore are probably the easiest ones) for $250 and use the money to buy a high-end Android tablet from China. You'll take a loss compared to what you paid for it, but you'll ultimately end up with a better Android tablet to play with.

Canadian Nexus S: Unlocked?

For any of you who have bought a Nexus S *in Canada* from any of the carriers - Bell, Telus, Rogers, Fido, Koodo, Virgin, Mobilicity, Wind, Videotron...
Can you confirm that your phone came SIM-unlocked out of the box? Or does anyone have signs of a carrier lock?
all Nexus phones are unlocked
AllGamer said:
all Nexus phones are unlocked
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We'd like to hope so. But I am asking owners of these specific models, bought from CDN carriers, to confirm that fact once and for all.
it will be in violation of the google / nexus brand if they locked
google will not let telcos tarnish their image
Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
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Actually when Nexus one was sold by videotron and Mobilicity they were locked.
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Nope they weren't - it was confirmed that the Mobi N1 came unlocked. Don't know about Videotron's, but I presume the same.
Still, Bell/Telus/Rogers just don't seem like the kind of companies to allow themselves to sell something without a SIM lock. Which is why I'm asking about the NS.
I can personally confirm the Telus NS is unlocked (sim) using both a virgin and Rogers Sim.
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Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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dinan said:
Was told repeatedly by the Telus salesman that the phone was locked. He allowed me to try my sim and it got a signal so I'm pretty sure ALL nexus S phones are unlocked despite what Rogers/Telus/Bell are claiming. They just automatically respond "the phone is locked" because they're trained sheep.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
sal14m said:
I can confirm that the Nexus I purchased today at Future Shop on Rogers was completely unlocked.
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Where are you that you could buy one already today?
bfksc said:
Where are you that you could buy one already today?
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Thinking the same thing. I was thinking of grabbing one today to play with over the weekend.
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I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
Matridom said:
I got mine last night from a Telus store. It's unlocked.
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I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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And they've probably been told to spew that disinformation so people will buy from their own carrier rather than somewhere else at a cheaper price, and to prevent users from travelling with a prepaid SIM card.
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You can't buy from robelus without either a multi-year contract or severely over-inflated prices, and you can't buy from anyone else without paying full price up front. Nobody loses a dime by buying from the wrong carrier.... except for the carrier who lost the sale.
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Don't be so biased...the AWS version is only useful to those on 1700/AWS band, so obviously it's the one to get if you're with Wind or the others. If you're with Bell or the others then the obvious choice is the NAM version. And the 850/1900/NAM version also works in Europe just like the AWS version as both have 2100 radios.
dhkr234 said:
Note about these phones... as I understand it, there are TWO versions being sold in Canada... the AWS version (sold by Wind, Mobilicity, Videotron), and the PCS version (sold by robelus). It is BETTER TO BUY THE AWS VERSION!!! The PCS version will NOT WORK with Wind, Mobilicity, or Videotron. The AWS version will only not work with BELUS, it will work with everything else.
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Talk about misinformation...
Weird I went to 2 Future Shops in Oakville, I think there are only 2 here, and both tried to sell me a Nexus unlocked. So no aggro here
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Having been a Fido customer on my AWS Nexus One for several months before Vancouver's first AWS carrier launched... I would not wish on any phone geek the torture of owning a an awesome new "superphone" that feels so snappy and delightful in so many ways... but can't access the 3G speeds they're already paying for.
Buy the phone that matches your carrier's frequencies. There are plenty of these to go around. If you switch to another carrier, trade it. Or hold out for something like the LG G2X which will be quad-band UMTS 850/AWS/1900/2100 *and* dual-core.
bfksc said:
I stopped by a local Telus store last night hoping to play with a demo, but they claimed they didn't have any and no demo. The manager told me they won't have any available for sale until April 15th. I then stopped by a BestBuy and they didn't have a demo and was told they don't have any stock but would sell me one outright from Telus stock if they had it. Futureshop has some, but they said they don't have the outright/no contract SKU in their system (bogus info as they want a contract sale). Other carriers are not selling until next week, even if they have stock.
This really is a messy launch...I don't mind waiting but the complete lack of dissemination of information, inconsistent sales information, and staggered launch dates is not very flattering for Google. And I can only imagine how customers will react to this sloppiness.
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When i went in on Thursday night, I was told the same thing. They had stock, but it was not in the system. This is true for consumers. Fortunately, I'm a corporate customer and a quick call to my sales rep got everything sorted out, turns out the business sku's ARE in the system. After about 1/2 hour, i walked out of the store with my phone.
I hope you where not the guy behind me who was told "No, you can't have one" by the sales rep while i was unboxing mine. I felt really bad for that guy.
Also keep in mind that not all telus stores are the same. Look in your phone book for Telus and go to one of those stores, not on of the "Telus by XXXXX". When you get into a store owned and operated by Telus, you can get a lot more done.

[Q] Quick question about the Inspire in Germany

Hey all, sorry this is a noob question, but I am a U.S. soldier who is to be stationed in Germany for 3 years on Thursday. Originally I was going to wait until I got over there to get a phone, but after seeing the prices compared to what I can get here I decided against it, and my buddy told me about buying phones here in the U.S. and unlocking them to put on German networks.
Well my question is if I buy the HTC Inspire 4G from AT&T without a plan, how would I go about getting the Unlock code (cheapest way possible) and would it be 100% certain to work over there as it's quadband and takes SIM cards?
yes it will work in germany. just call ATT and tell them you are going overseas for a while, and you need the unlock code. if you have been with ATT longer than 3 months, and dont have late payments, they will provide the unlock code to you.
when you get over there, just pop in your local sim card. the phone will only work with GSM 2G for voice and data, no 3G, but do you really care either way?
Being a soldier on a deployment will make them much more receptive to giving the unlock code, too. But yes, as the previous poster said, EDGE only. It will be worth the difference IMHO to get a local european phone so you can have 3G access. The good thing is any country will work, find one with lower taxes (especially VAT) and that could very much help, if it is within reason to go to one.
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New S4 for $330...Seems A Bargain

Just read on Androidpolice Cricket are offering a $200 rebate on the s4. So similar price to the Nexus 4
www.androidpolice.com/2013/06/08/de...laxy-s-iii-and-htc-one-sv-via-mail-in-rebate/
And there are great deals on other phones too. www.mycricket.com/cell-phones?cm_sp=hero-_-423-_-OOF_1
Sorry if this has already been posted
Almost jumped at the offer...but then I remembered Cricket wireless is a CDMA carrier and I want to use T-Mobile, so unless they're selling a factory unlocked phone it would be pointless for me to buy it.
Suchomimus said:
Almost jumped at the offer...but then I remembered Cricket wireless is a CDMA carrier and I want to use T-Mobile, so unless they're selling a factory unlocked phone it would be pointless for me to buy it.
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I'm in UK so don't know the differences you have over there.....wish it was that price over here though
Can that be trusted? Seems too cheap.
villapark75 said:
I'm in UK so don't know the differences you have over there.....wish it was that price over here though
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CDMA is typically for US LTE vands. It's what Verizon/Sprint use, and basically it means the phone won't work on GSM netowrks (T-Mobile/AT&T). It's far more restrictive, and you can't just pop in a SIM card and use the phone as you wish.
frrlod said:
Can that be trusted? Seems too cheap.
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There seems to be a couple of catches.
-The fine print says that you need to make two auto-bill payments to Cricket wireless, which depending on the plan you pick, is $70-100. It also means you must be on Cricket wireless service for 45 days before you can cancel and use the phone on another carrier, which if it's a CDMA phone, means no T-Mobile/AT&T.
-The rebate offer could be several months before you get it in the mail.

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