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Moto G on AIO question

We switched from Sprint to AIO. I got the Nexus 5 and the wife got a Moto G. My wife is getting around 2 mbps down at best and it says 3g. I'm concerned it's just normal HSPA and not HSPA+. Is there a way to tell which it's on? For the record, when I turn LTE off on my nexus, I hit the data cap of 3.5-4 mbps on HSPA+.

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Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.

Rarscaryfrosty said:
Depending on which model you purchased, your Moto G may or may not support HSPA or HSPA+. If you purchase the unlocked USA GSM model, it does have HSPA+. If you bought the global model, it's strictly 3G only.
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.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.

big gulps huh? said:
.... thats a bunch of misinformation. All the models have HSPA+. The US models only show 3G on screen even when connected to HSPA+ (if you dont believe me there are several ways to check). With AIO either of the US models or the international models will work just fine (as it runs on ATT's network) the only time you really need to worry about network compatibility is if you are buying the phone to run on T-Mobile as you will need the US model instead of the Global model.
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Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.

Rarscaryfrosty said:
Ah sorry, I guess I was misinformed. I must have been confused about the model that T-Mobile requires.
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no worries. There seems to be a ton of confusion out there about this phone and which model to use. Motorola should add a chart or something on their site to clear it all up.

Just checked mine there now hspa+ and downloads of between 3.5 and 5 Mbps in my house ,other days I can get up to 9 Mbps,UK stock ROM rooted on giffgaff network,Posted screenshots of speeds that I get in my bathroom which are usually poor compared to rest of house

Mi4 in europe

I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.

toxic_garden said:
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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Where did you order your mi4 ? what website ?

directly from Xiaomi. http://www.xiaomishop.com/180-xiaomi-mi4-16gb-wcdma-smartphone-black.html

Xiaomishop is not Xiaomi, just reseller.

interesting. Didn't know that. But it seems like a trustworthy reseller anyways, as i read tons of positive remarks about them. But let's just see when (and how) my device arrives.

toxic_garden said:
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.

NeySlim said:
I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.
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great! As France and Germany use the same frequency bands, everything should be fine then. I read a few complains about bad/no reception, but it seems like this wouldn't be a general problem after all.

No problem of reception at all. I get even better signal than my old S4 Mini, and better sound quality too.

whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?

Rene_ajax said:
whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?
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it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.

FDD LTE Band 20
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?

FDD-LTE model is not available yet, you have to wait.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4/general/unlocking-basebands-mi4-t2879685
Nobody has reported success in unlocking bands on different model, likely hardware issue/impossible.

DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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I do not think that this will happen with the MI4, just more in a new model like "MI5". In Germany you can use this Band 20 with t-mobile in some areas.You can not fix this problem with an simple software update, its more linked to the hardware conditions. But you can put me right

so i got my Mi4 yesterday. 2G/3G seem to work perfectly fine.
The only thing i'm still not quite sure about is localization. I currently use .12.12 dev-Edition. Seems like giving root-Access right out of MIUI is not available in stable editions. But sadly, the localized versions (in my case: german ) seem to lack behind. Not a big deal as i'm perfectly fine using english terms in my OS, but i wonder if there is any way to tell 3rd party apps (facebook etc.) that they should use foreign languages. Any ideas?
[edit] woohoo! This one did the trick: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evanhe.locale
All 3rd party apps, that have any localization built in, now show up in german language

toxic_garden said:
it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.
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fantastic

DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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Now FDD LTE is ready

LTE Band 20
lenteenes said:
Now FDD LTE is ready
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any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?

Only 1800 And 2100
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DeMichaelis said:
any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?
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Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz

lenteenes said:
Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz
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Being that Europe has the similar bands as the U.S. will it work in the States?

T-mobile LTE in the US

I bought a z5 premium knowing it atleast supports 4g on T-mobile in the USA. Does anyone know if I can get LTE, or a radio I can flash to take advantage of LTE?
I did search and see this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/z5-hand-tmo-t3218674/page1
TMO user claims LTE but I have my APN settings in and I do not see LTE, only 4G. I'm not sure what to do next

4G == LTE, you are running an international firmware (likely UK) where LTE is branded as such. If you want LTE to show, then flash another, I recommend the CE5, which you can find somewhere around here..

sovanyio said:
4G == LTE, you are running an international firmware (likely UK) where LTE is branded as such. If you want LTE to show, then flash another, I recommend the CE5, which you can find somewhere around here..
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Ah, fantastic. I was hoping it was something simple like that. Thank you.

If you have the Z5 premium though, may want to head to the section for the Z5 premium, to ensure you get the right firmware.
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T-Mobile should show LTE. Go into your settings > more > internet settings (download settings for internet and MMS) and it should pull up the right APNs and show LTE. My AT&T and T-Mobile both show LTE.

crazeazn said:
T-Mobile should show LTE. Go into your settings > more > internet settings (download settings for internet and MMS) and it should pull up the right APNs and show LTE. My AT&T and T-Mobile both show LTE.
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Where did you buy your phone? If you bought it in the UK/EU, did you flash anything new to it? Phones bought there should show 4G for LTE regardness of APN and other settings because those regions don't differentiate between the two (there wasn't that "3.5G as 4G" marketing push in those regions).

chaosking121 said:
Where did you buy your phone? If you bought it in the UK/EU, did you flash anything new to it? Phones bought there should show 4G for LTE regardness of APN and other settings because those regions don't differentiate between the two (there wasn't that "3.5G as 4G" marketing push in those regions).
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I bought my Z5 Dual from eBay, I believe it had the HK firmware.

chaosking121 said:
Where did you buy your phone? If you bought it in the UK/EU, did you flash anything new to it? Phones bought there should show 4G for LTE regardness of APN and other settings because those regions don't differentiate between the two (there wasn't that "3.5G as 4G" marketing push in those regions).
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Hmm this is interesting. I bought mine from Amazon so I'm not sure how to tell which region it came from. It shipped from China. I did not root or flash anything yet.

I also have a Z5 on T-Mobile (phone came from Taiwan). I am ON LTE, but the phone shows 4G as expected. This is totally normal as others have said.

Same here I bought my Z5 on amazon it came from HK, phone shows 4g, but when running speedstest I get over 30mbps download, you can also install the LTE Discovery APP, mine shows that I am always connected to LTE band 4 mostly, sometimes it switches to LTE Band 2 or 12

sci2 said:
I also have a Z5 on T-Mobile (phone came from Taiwan). I am ON LTE, but the phone shows 4G as expected. This is totally normal as others have said.
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how weird!

Any ideas?

crazeazn said:
how weird!
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LTE = 4G in other areas the world. US Telecom screwed with the term,s since they termed HSDPA/+ as 4G, when it was 3.5G. So they had to resort to using LTE instead of 4G like the rest of the world.
That's why on international phones you see H/+ = HSDPA (meaning it's on 4G if US phones), and when it actually shows 4G, it's on LTE.

peltruquin said:
Same here I bought my Z5 on amazon it came from HK, phone shows 4g, but when running speedstest I get over 30mbps download, you can also install the LTE Discovery APP, mine shows that I am always connected to LTE band 4 mostly, sometimes it switches to LTE Band 2 or 12
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Are you on TMo US? I haven't seen my phone switch to band 12 yet, despite being in a band 12 area and getting relatively bad (~1 bar) band 4 service at my desk (which is next to a window lol) at work.

komugi said:
LTE = 4G in other areas the world. US Telecom screwed with the term,s since they termed HSDPA/+ as 4G, when it was 3.5G. So they had to resort to using LTE instead of 4G like the rest of the world.
That's why on international phones you see H/+ = HSDPA (meaning it's on 4G if US phones), and when it actually shows 4G, it's on LTE.
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No, I understand the nomenclature. I'm saying its weird that some phones are showing 4G and some are showing LTE in the US. The Z5 is not officially released here in the US so I'm wondering where the firmware difference lies from the international versions.

It doesn't matter where you are geographically. It's down to the customization of the software the device is running and there are several. I have a Z5 that is branded Vodafone from Germany and it shows 4G. Normal for Sony phones. If a user is particular about what icon shows for LTE, any European, UK, Baltic, Mediterranean etc. will show 4G. Any North, Central or South American firmware will show LTE.

augie7107 said:
It doesn't matter where you are geographically. It's down to the customization of the software the device is running and there are several. I have a Z5 that is branded Vodafone from Germany and it shows 4G. Normal for Sony phones. If a user is particular about what icon shows for LTE, any European, UK, Baltic, Mediterranean etc. will show 4G. Any North, Central or South American firmware will show LTE.
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My box/phone was unbranded and when booted showed chinese/HK as primary language but shows LTE as shown above.

Again, it is a condition of customization. Possibly there are Asian variants that use LTE in lieu of 4G. Check customization in the service menu. I have had almost every Xperia since the X1 eight years ago, prior to LTE being available. This question/discussion comes up in every forum. In my opinion, the notification symbol does not matter as long as the data speeds are there.

augie7107 said:
It doesn't matter where you are geographically. It's down to the customization of the software the device is running and there are several. I have a Z5 that is branded Vodafone from Germany and it shows 4G. Normal for Sony phones. If a user is particular about what icon shows for LTE, any European, UK, Baltic, Mediterranean etc. will show 4G. Any North, Central or South American firmware will show LTE.
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Central European firmware shows LTE

augie7107 said:
Again, it is a condition of customization. Possibly there are Asian variants that use LTE in lieu of 4G. Check customization in the service menu. I have had almost every Xperia since the X1 eight years ago, prior to LTE being available. This question/discussion comes up in every forum. In my opinion, the notification symbol does not matter as long as the data speeds are there.
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I don't think you're understanding my curiosity. I know that its related to the customization and the firmware and/or branding based on the carrier. I don't care about the speeds either since I am getting LTE speeds. What I am curious about is why it does show because it was a Chinese market phone which per my knowledge usually shows 4G. Most markets show 4G, I want to know why mine shows LTE.

FRD-L04 European band support

Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!

I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/

marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.

AllieKitty said:
Hi all, I ordered a 32 GB Pearl White (presumably FRD-L04) on Amazon's Black Friday sale, I live in the UK, had it shipped to a friend in the US. According to hihonor, the phone should support all the US and UK bands. According to FrequencyCheck, only the 64GB (FRD-L14) US model supports the European bands 3 and 20. Which is correct? If the phone I ordered won't support 3 and 20, I may as well return it now.
Thanks!
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marko207 said:
I also bought Honor 8. Only difference is that US version is single sim and much more LTE bands. According to official site it should support that bands.
I finded here specifications for all versions: http://www.smartphonerankings.com/huawei-honor-8-frd-l04/
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AllieKitty said:
Yes, I believe FrequencyCheck is wrong, but it claims the European bands 3 and 20 are only supported in FRD-L14 (the 64 GB version) and not in FRD-L04. Hopefully this is untrue.
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Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!

connorhiller said:
Hey guys, can you update on this?
I'm studying abroad in England for 5 months and I have this exact model of the Honor 8, and wanted to know if I can get a reliable 4G LTE connection while I'm in England... I'm going to get a plan with Vodafone, EE, or O2 when I get there. If you could let me know, I'd really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance!
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Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc

CronaMell said:
Check a website called "will my phone work..." (Search in google) and input phone, model...etc
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I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net

connorhiller said:
I tried that, but, unfortunately the particular model sold at Best Buy and Amazon isn't an option on willmyphonework.net
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then, you'll have to test it by yourself

CronaMell said:
then, you'll have to test it by yourself
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That's why I'm asking the 2 people who commented in this thread, they live in the UK and can tell me for sure.

Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..

I bought the FRD-L09 model while I was overseas and I live in the USA, the salesperson assured me it would work on 4G here but it definitely doesn't... If you still have the FRD-L04 model would you be willing to trade? Mine is the blue 32G model and it is basically new, I bought it about a month ago. I love the phone but only having 3G is killing me...

Nyssa1104 said:
Here you go here is a list for radio bands compatibility list for Honor FDR04 /14 /01 AND 14 for use in UK with most of the providers..
www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/K0BOsOx/huawei-honor-8-dual-sim-lte-a-frd-l04/united-kingdom
You can select any country by the way.. If I were you op for Virgin mobile or Plusnet both run off EE but have better signal and deals to the overs..
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Thanks for this, but as someone stated above, I think Frequency Check is wrong here. According to Huawei Customer Care team on Amazon, the supports bands 3, 7, and 20 which are used for LTE in the UK, while Frequency Check doesn't have those.
I have posted a picture of both Huawei's listed network frequencies compared to Frequency Check's.

I never even knew that Honor released a single SIM variant of the Honor 8. I thought all Honor 8's were dual SIMs.

I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.

AllieKitty said:
I can confirm Frequency check is wrong. I'm not back in the UK yet but I'm getting LTE on SoftBank in Japan. A warning - this model follows the American practice of calling 3G "4G". Only "4G LTE" actually means 4G.
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Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.

connorhiller said:
Awesome. Thanks, this is very relieving for me! Loving the phone so far... Had to put Nova Launcher on it but that's OK. I'm quite confident it will work in the UK now.
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Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).

Bobomo said:
Did you have any luck? I will be traveling with this and am trying to figure out the discrepancy between Honors specs and Frequency Check (and also the FCC testing report).
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I think it's because not every country use every bands so Honor indicates only bands used for specific country.
I make an example: Band 20 could be used in USA but not in UK so indicates on UK version it have Band 20 is useless for UK's people

New pixel 4aDE

Hello to all guys.
I just bought my new pixel 4a last day.
I living in Greece, my network show me LTE and no 4G. I know that LTE technology is like 4G. I will have any problem with my internet connection? Or quality speaking in my calls?
Can I flash any other firmware to change the internet bands?
Or I can't do anything about this !

If you get LTE, then you should be fine.

JohnC said:
If you get LTE, then you should be fine.
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I check the map of all LTE country's and Greece is inside of this country's.
So yeah I believe that's is fine.
Ty for responding to my thread.