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Odd Situational Question about Rooting

First of all, I apologize if this is the wrong area to ask this question. I've been to two other forums with my question and have been told to sod-off without help because I posted in the wrong section
Okay, so I bought my first android phone the other day (HTC Inspire!) and I must say, I am never going back to an iPhone ever again.
However, I am a complete and total noob to rooting (as you will find out)
I successfully rooted my phone upon receiving it (with ACE Advanced Hack Kit) and upon trying to install a custom ROM, received an error (to which I cannot seem to remember specifically what it was). I called a friend who told me to re-run the hack kit, which was a bad idea. It ended up freezing on the radio downgrading and put my phone into a bootloop.
I got it out of bootloop after a few hours of research and reset the phone back to its original settings.
Now, my question is: My phone, in HBOOT, still shows that it is "S-OFF." Would it be okay for me to run it through Ace Advanced Hack Kit again to install CWM? I tried using ROM Manager to flash it over, but rom manager is saying my phone isn't rooted at all, which confuses me. I keep getting the error "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
Any help or advice you guys can shed would be wonderful.

Once you are s off never run the hack kit again unless you are going to reverse to s on. Your friend gave you some bad advice. Rooted and s off are not the same thing. S off allows flashing of pd98img and custom recovery. Root is an ability within the Rom you use. From your phone install superuser from the market. That will give you root and will let you install a custom recovery through Rom manager. Only install recovery with Rom manager. Don't let Rom manager install a Rom as it is buggy at best. Or you can use 4ext recovery. Once you have a custom recovery do a backup so you can restore if things go wrong. Download whatever Rom you want to use then you want to always select (within recovery) wipe data/factory reset and then wipe dalvik. This should leave you with an empty data, cache and dalvik and also erases android.secure on sd card. Once there you can install a Rom. Never use the factory reset from Rom or hboot with s off as it will really screw things up. Also almost every custom Rom has superuser and busybox installed already so you shouldn't need to install superuser again.

Gizmoe said:
Once you are s off never run the hack kit again unless you are going to reverse to s on. Your friend gave you some bad advice. Rooted and s off are not the same thing. S off allows flashing of pd98img and custom recovery. Root is an ability within the Rom you use. From your phone install superuser from the market. That will give you root and will let you install a custom recovery through Rom manager. Only install recovery with Rom manager. Don't let Rom manager install a Rom as it is buggy at best. Or you can use 4ext recovery. Once you have a custom recovery do a backup so you can restore if things go wrong. Download whatever Rom you want to use then you want to always select (within recovery) wipe data/factory reset and then wipe dalvik. This should leave you with an empty data, cache and dalvik and also erases android.secure on sd card. Once there you can install a Rom. Never use the factory reset from Rom or hboot with s off as it will really screw things up. Also almost every custom Rom has superuser and busybox installed already so you shouldn't need to install superuser again.
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I've installed SU from the play store, but when I go into ROM Manager, it is still saying superuser isn't installed, or I'm not rooted.

Actually you can use the hack kit again BUT you have to go into the optional menu and not use the main option of root.
In the optional screen their is an option to install cwr.
Or alternatively you can install cwr via a pd98img.

phyzorz said:
I've installed SU from the play store, but when I go into ROM Manager, it is still saying superuser isn't installed, or I'm not rooted.
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If you are S-OFF but flashed a RUU then you are not rooted anymore. You can do as Mardsta says and flash SU in CWM or if you are willing to flash a custom rom, just make sure that CWM recovery is installed and flash a rooted rom. The important thing is that you already are S-OFF.
Never run a non stock device....if you are already S-OFF there is no reason to re run the Hack Kit.

marsdta said:
Actually you can use the hack kit again BUT you have to go into the optional menu and not use the main option of root.
In the optional screen their is an option to install cwr.
Or alternatively you can install cwr via a pd98img.
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Ahh yes the optional menu. Been so long since I've used the hack kit I totally spaced the extra options. I rooted back when we still had to make our own gold card.

glevitan said:
If you are S-OFF but flashed a RUU then you are not rooted anymore. You can do as Mardsta says and flash SU in CWM or if you are willing to flash a custom rom, just make sure that CWM recovery is installed and flash a rooted rom. The important thing is that you already are S-OFF.
Never run a non stock device....if you are already S-OFF there is no reason to re run the Hack Kit.
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That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?

phyzorz said:
That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?
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As marsdta said you can use the hack kits optional menu to flash cwm. You may have to put your phone into fastboot though to get it to recognize it. I'm not 100% on that though because I have never done it that way myself. Or you can use a pd98img.

phyzorz said:
That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?
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Gizmoe said:
As marsdta said you can use the hack kits optional menu to flash cwm. You may have to put your phone into fastboot though to get it to recognize it. I'm not 100% on that though because I have never done it that way myself. Or you can use a pd98img.
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THAT ^^^^^^

Go to Google Play store and download 4ext recovery control. I like it much better than the cwm given by ace. All you need then is a rom dev'd for inspire or dhd. If it's for dhd then you need to also flash inspiremod so the gps and branding reflect north america and inspire 4g.

[Q] Did I root correctly?

So I got my 300T a few nights ago.
It's already got Asus's JB on it.
Wanted to root to use the SwitchMe app for multiple profiles.
I was able to get the system to see fastboot, and ran all of the commands. Was able to boot to CWM and install root-signed. When I was trying to reboot, it said root was possibly lost, asked me to fix it, i said yes.
When I open up the SwitchMe app, it just keeps trying to open a SuperUser window about 7 times, and then does nothing else.
Have I done something wrong?
SuperUser just says No Apps in List.
edit: tried to update SuperUser. It says "gaining root access.....fail!". Guess I'll try to install root-signed again. Not sure how I could've messed it up the first time.
edit 2: wiped cache and dalvik, installed root-signed again, same problem. SwitchMe says I haven't granted superuser permissions. SuperUser shows no apps, is set to auto-allow root access, and fails getting root access when running binary updater.

im pretty sure you have to unlock the bootloader
and go through some crazy process before you can root with JB

My tablet was running JB when I bought it. I unlocked and still could not get my tablet to root using CWM. On top of that, CWM would not make a proper backup. I highly recommend you switching to TWRP. I did, flashed a rooted custom ROM and haven't had anymore issues.
Many people are having issues with CWM. TWRP is definitely the way to go. :good:

1 wrong section
2 root checker app(s)

Well, what I did to root my stock using TWRP was to flash the root-signed in the CWM thread, but as this didn't really got me full root, I flashed the flashable zip from here, downloaded SuperSU from market, there then chose "update binary" and then I had root
I'm pretty sure flashing the root-signed of the CWM thread wasn't needed, but if you do this steps (need to be unlocked to flash a recovery, strangely recommend TWRP 2.3.1 or 2.2.2 for 4.1 ROMs and 2.3.3 for 4.2 ROMs (as 4.2 has this sdcard/0 directions because of Multiusers, 2.3.3 uses this directories too))
So what should work:
1. unlock bootloader
2. flash CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: CWM-SuperSU-v0.99.zip from here
3. download SuperSU from market and there update binary (don't know how it's called exactly)
4. enjoy!
if you decide to use a Custom ROM, you just need to flash the ROM in TWRP and should get Root too with the ROM (as all of them include Root afaik)

Update Rooted Nexus

I am new to this. I have a rooted nexus 5. It is stock rooted with TRWP recovery. I don't have a custom ROM. When the newest update is available, am I safe to update?

ILowry282 said:
I am new to this. I have a rooted nexus 5. It is stock rooted with TRWP recovery. I don't have a custom ROM. When the newest update is available, am I safe to update?
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Since your post was made today, and the update was released yesterday I'm assuming you are thinking that you will be getting the update over the air? You won't. When you have a custom recovery (TWRP) you won't get OTA's.
But don't be disheartened, not in the LEAST. Unless you've removed or altered the default system apps (you would know if you did) all you have to do is download the update to your phone, boot into TWRP, flash the update, and let the phone reboot.
Due to how the OTA updates are rolled out, even if you had not loaded a custom recovery onto your phone, you might not have had it pushed to you for a couple of weeks.
Read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217
From what you have described you are "scenario 2". Proceed directly to step B. Like many people, I was also step B. It is easier than making toast.

So if I update that way will I lose my data and root? Also do I unzip the file or flash the zip file?

ILowry282 said:
So if I update that way will I lose my data and root? Also do I unzip the file or flash the zip file?
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1. If you flash a custom ROM via TWRP it is generally recommended you do a clean wipe beforehand (and before doing that, obviously create a backup). There are cases where you can go straight to flashing without wiping, which is called a dirty flash. Although this is used when you're flashing an updated version of the ROM you're currently running. Following instructions under Section B won't cause you to lose data.
2. You won't lose root because ROMs will generally take this into account. However, if you do happen to lose root, just download and flash SuperSU and you're back on track.
3. Just flash the zip file.

ILowry282 said:
So if I update that way will I lose my data and root? Also do I unzip the file or flash the zip file?
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The first part of the reply above is certainly correct, (the rest is also, but I'm just speaking to the first part of it) but I feel it is just going to confuse you.
You did not flash a custom ROM, you flashed a custom RECOVERY. Two different things. When you copy the update onto your phone, in the form that exists in the thread I linked earlier, it is not an entire image. It is an UPDATE to the stock image, which you are already using. As for your concern of losing root, it shouldn't be a concern. As was mentioned in the reply above mentioned, while you are in recovery you can simply just flash SU again.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet the file to flash SU is still on your phone.
As for me personally, I happened to have unlocked the pro version of SU (because why not...it's only $2.50 and I like the app) and just toggled the "survival mode" option. But even if I had not, it would have been a very small thing to loading SU again.
In short, don't worry about losing root. When you first rooted this phone, most of the steps involved were not in rooting the phone, but in unlocking the bootloader. Loading this update has nothing to do with that, so in your case, since you didn't flash a custom ROM (Such as CyanogenMod) and you didn't make any modifications to the system apps...quite literally all you have to do is copy the stuff onto your phone, load into TWRP, fire up the update, and either fire up SU, or have survival mode already enabled, and reboot the phone.
(and no, you don't have to unzip the file pasted in the thread, just copy it directly) The instructions in that thread are really simple, and that's probably giving you a bit of pause, but seriously, it really is that simple in your case, as it was mine.

So I updated but lost root. How do I flash SU?

ILowry282 said:
So I updated but lost root. How do I flash SU?
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Do you still have custom recovery cwm or twrp? If so download su zip from either of those posts and flash in recovery if not you can flash recovery with adb or flashify and then flash su zip.
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Worked perfect. Thanks

Root is gone after flashing stock kernel

I need help, I can't get root access back after flashing stock kernel...
Actually the first time that phone boots I got root but is gone after reboot
I already tried re-flashing SuperSU lastest version, but nothing works...
Any idea?
Maybe need a full wipe, but I dont want to lose all my apps data/savegames, and I can't back up anything cause titanium back up needs root

Hello,
i can help you:
1. Install Supersu from play Store
2. Launch it and install binaries via normal way.
This should work.
TheCrazyLex

Don't install from the playstore, eventually it gives binary errors and that is if it can install binaries the normal way.
That said, download this ( https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567719420 ) and flash it through recovery as if it was a rom.
You're done.

badjoras said:
Don't install from the playstore, eventually it gives binary errors and that is if it can install binaries the normal way.
That said, download this ( https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23578570567719420 ) and flash it through recovery as if it was a rom.
You're done.
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He did try to install it via Recovery.
I said to install it from Play Store, so it is right

how to unroot nougat

Hi, I installed Thor v2 rom, nougat. However, i can't find a way to unroot it, whether using SuperSU unroot menu, or installing other kernel.
Upon boot, it shows samsung, but then back again to TWRP recovery, cannot go straight to OS.
Please help. I really need to unroot since i wanted to use several apps which detects root/

You need reinstall the OS via Odin

duke_dreadmoore said:
Hi, I installed Thor v2 rom, nougat. However, i can't find a way to unroot it, whether using SuperSU unroot menu, or installing other kernel.
Upon boot, it shows samsung, but then back again to TWRP recovery, cannot go straight to OS.
Please help. I really need to unroot since i wanted to use several apps which detects root/
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Flash a ROM zip. Or flash the super user uninstaller zip

godkingofcanada said:
Flash a ROM zip. Or flash the super user uninstaller zip
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Uninstaller not working. It looks like the ROM (thor v2) already modifies the boot, so it's not working without root. It's bootlooping to recovery screen. Is it?

duke_dreadmoore said:
Uninstaller not working. It looks like the ROM (thor v2) already modifies the boot, so it's not working without root. It's bootlooping to recovery screen. Is it?[/QUOToh I get it. Its pre rooted so there is no boot.IMG to revert to. I thought the su uninstaller would remove itself from the boot. Just use a different ROM bro
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