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Odd Situational Question about Rooting

First of all, I apologize if this is the wrong area to ask this question. I've been to two other forums with my question and have been told to sod-off without help because I posted in the wrong section
Okay, so I bought my first android phone the other day (HTC Inspire!) and I must say, I am never going back to an iPhone ever again.
However, I am a complete and total noob to rooting (as you will find out)
I successfully rooted my phone upon receiving it (with ACE Advanced Hack Kit) and upon trying to install a custom ROM, received an error (to which I cannot seem to remember specifically what it was). I called a friend who told me to re-run the hack kit, which was a bad idea. It ended up freezing on the radio downgrading and put my phone into a bootloop.
I got it out of bootloop after a few hours of research and reset the phone back to its original settings.
Now, my question is: My phone, in HBOOT, still shows that it is "S-OFF." Would it be okay for me to run it through Ace Advanced Hack Kit again to install CWM? I tried using ROM Manager to flash it over, but rom manager is saying my phone isn't rooted at all, which confuses me. I keep getting the error "An error occurred while attempting to run privileged commands!"
Any help or advice you guys can shed would be wonderful.

Once you are s off never run the hack kit again unless you are going to reverse to s on. Your friend gave you some bad advice. Rooted and s off are not the same thing. S off allows flashing of pd98img and custom recovery. Root is an ability within the Rom you use. From your phone install superuser from the market. That will give you root and will let you install a custom recovery through Rom manager. Only install recovery with Rom manager. Don't let Rom manager install a Rom as it is buggy at best. Or you can use 4ext recovery. Once you have a custom recovery do a backup so you can restore if things go wrong. Download whatever Rom you want to use then you want to always select (within recovery) wipe data/factory reset and then wipe dalvik. This should leave you with an empty data, cache and dalvik and also erases android.secure on sd card. Once there you can install a Rom. Never use the factory reset from Rom or hboot with s off as it will really screw things up. Also almost every custom Rom has superuser and busybox installed already so you shouldn't need to install superuser again.

Gizmoe said:
Once you are s off never run the hack kit again unless you are going to reverse to s on. Your friend gave you some bad advice. Rooted and s off are not the same thing. S off allows flashing of pd98img and custom recovery. Root is an ability within the Rom you use. From your phone install superuser from the market. That will give you root and will let you install a custom recovery through Rom manager. Only install recovery with Rom manager. Don't let Rom manager install a Rom as it is buggy at best. Or you can use 4ext recovery. Once you have a custom recovery do a backup so you can restore if things go wrong. Download whatever Rom you want to use then you want to always select (within recovery) wipe data/factory reset and then wipe dalvik. This should leave you with an empty data, cache and dalvik and also erases android.secure on sd card. Once there you can install a Rom. Never use the factory reset from Rom or hboot with s off as it will really screw things up. Also almost every custom Rom has superuser and busybox installed already so you shouldn't need to install superuser again.
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I've installed SU from the play store, but when I go into ROM Manager, it is still saying superuser isn't installed, or I'm not rooted.

Actually you can use the hack kit again BUT you have to go into the optional menu and not use the main option of root.
In the optional screen their is an option to install cwr.
Or alternatively you can install cwr via a pd98img.

phyzorz said:
I've installed SU from the play store, but when I go into ROM Manager, it is still saying superuser isn't installed, or I'm not rooted.
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If you are S-OFF but flashed a RUU then you are not rooted anymore. You can do as Mardsta says and flash SU in CWM or if you are willing to flash a custom rom, just make sure that CWM recovery is installed and flash a rooted rom. The important thing is that you already are S-OFF.
Never run a non stock device....if you are already S-OFF there is no reason to re run the Hack Kit.

marsdta said:
Actually you can use the hack kit again BUT you have to go into the optional menu and not use the main option of root.
In the optional screen their is an option to install cwr.
Or alternatively you can install cwr via a pd98img.
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Ahh yes the optional menu. Been so long since I've used the hack kit I totally spaced the extra options. I rooted back when we still had to make our own gold card.

glevitan said:
If you are S-OFF but flashed a RUU then you are not rooted anymore. You can do as Mardsta says and flash SU in CWM or if you are willing to flash a custom rom, just make sure that CWM recovery is installed and flash a rooted rom. The important thing is that you already are S-OFF.
Never run a non stock device....if you are already S-OFF there is no reason to re run the Hack Kit.
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That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?

phyzorz said:
That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?
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As marsdta said you can use the hack kits optional menu to flash cwm. You may have to put your phone into fastboot though to get it to recognize it. I'm not 100% on that though because I have never done it that way myself. Or you can use a pd98img.

phyzorz said:
That's the thing though. I don't have CWM installed (going to recovery in HBOOT simply yields the red error symbol). I have SU installed, but because I am not rooted, it isn't being recognized by Rom manager. I apologize for my ignorance, but how exactly do I get CWM on my phone then? Is there a program that can root and flash it without messing with the S setting?
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Gizmoe said:
As marsdta said you can use the hack kits optional menu to flash cwm. You may have to put your phone into fastboot though to get it to recognize it. I'm not 100% on that though because I have never done it that way myself. Or you can use a pd98img.
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THAT ^^^^^^

Go to Google Play store and download 4ext recovery control. I like it much better than the cwm given by ace. All you need then is a rom dev'd for inspire or dhd. If it's for dhd then you need to also flash inspiremod so the gps and branding reflect north america and inspire 4g.

[Q] Did I root correctly?

So I got my 300T a few nights ago.
It's already got Asus's JB on it.
Wanted to root to use the SwitchMe app for multiple profiles.
I was able to get the system to see fastboot, and ran all of the commands. Was able to boot to CWM and install root-signed. When I was trying to reboot, it said root was possibly lost, asked me to fix it, i said yes.
When I open up the SwitchMe app, it just keeps trying to open a SuperUser window about 7 times, and then does nothing else.
Have I done something wrong?
SuperUser just says No Apps in List.
edit: tried to update SuperUser. It says "gaining root access.....fail!". Guess I'll try to install root-signed again. Not sure how I could've messed it up the first time.
edit 2: wiped cache and dalvik, installed root-signed again, same problem. SwitchMe says I haven't granted superuser permissions. SuperUser shows no apps, is set to auto-allow root access, and fails getting root access when running binary updater.

im pretty sure you have to unlock the bootloader
and go through some crazy process before you can root with JB

My tablet was running JB when I bought it. I unlocked and still could not get my tablet to root using CWM. On top of that, CWM would not make a proper backup. I highly recommend you switching to TWRP. I did, flashed a rooted custom ROM and haven't had anymore issues.
Many people are having issues with CWM. TWRP is definitely the way to go. :good:

1 wrong section
2 root checker app(s)

Well, what I did to root my stock using TWRP was to flash the root-signed in the CWM thread, but as this didn't really got me full root, I flashed the flashable zip from here, downloaded SuperSU from market, there then chose "update binary" and then I had root
I'm pretty sure flashing the root-signed of the CWM thread wasn't needed, but if you do this steps (need to be unlocked to flash a recovery, strangely recommend TWRP 2.3.1 or 2.2.2 for 4.1 ROMs and 2.3.3 for 4.2 ROMs (as 4.2 has this sdcard/0 directions because of Multiusers, 2.3.3 uses this directories too))
So what should work:
1. unlock bootloader
2. flash CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP: CWM-SuperSU-v0.99.zip from here
3. download SuperSU from market and there update binary (don't know how it's called exactly)
4. enjoy!
if you decide to use a Custom ROM, you just need to flash the ROM in TWRP and should get Root too with the ROM (as all of them include Root afaik)

[HELP]can't reroot or flash stock recovory

so, when i rooted my N5 i wanted to see if i could use super user and not supersu, so i uninstalled it. but not how you think. i went into the supersu app and uninstalled it to add a new superuser app. i downloaded super user but it didn't work. so then i posted a thread on here asking what happened and i had the response that i need to reflash root. after watching so many videos on how to do it my N5 stays stuck in downloading and doesn't do anything. i still have an unlocked bootloader but i cant flash supersu. i assume i need to be rooted to reflash stock recovory...

To flash root, you flash the root zip from you custom recovery.

Tempest786 said:
so, when i rooted my N5 i wanted to see if i could use super user and not supersu, so i uninstalled it. but not how you think. i went into the supersu app and uninstalled it to add a new superuser app. i downloaded super user but it didn't work. so then i posted a thread on here asking what happened and i had the response that i need to reflash root. after watching so many videos on how to do it my N5 stays stuck in downloading and doesn't do anything. i still have an unlocked bootloader but i cant flash supersu. i assume i need to be rooted to reflash stock recovory...
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You need to have a custom recovery installed to flash SuperSu.
Everything you need can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...urce-guides-info-threads-linked-read-t2784527

oh, i thought i needed to be rooted or have supersu to even use a custom recovery. (in my case TWRP)

Tempest786 said:
oh, i thought i needed to be rooted or have supersu to even use a custom recovery. (in my case TWRP)
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Nope. Just for those silly "companion" apps like "TWRP manager" need root. But you don't need those. Boot into recovery manually to use it.

How to install recovery in LG G2 D80020y

Hello friends consultation
What is the best way to install the recovery on LG G2 D80020y ...?
If it's any thing and I have root access
Thanks and regards

Stump root, use brute force if the auto doesn't work. Then use autorec which will install the latest TWRP recovery for you.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2869410

thanks, just did this, needed brute force, it all worked for me.

Dr. Orange said:
Stump root, use brute force if the auto doesn't work. Then use autorec which will install the latest TWRP recovery for you.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2869410
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Thanks men:good: work for me everything perfectly, I have put my G2 CM12
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I followed this method and rooted my LG G2 D800 on the Y update, installed this Autorec, it had option to reboot into recovery or to exit.
Do we need to use this tool every time to enter recovery to flash a ROM as I chose reboot and did not see any advanced options present and nothing under developer, have not checked SU yet, if it is there, will come back and clarify the next step, as simply installing Autorec does not give me the option to reboot into recovery using the phone's main power button.
I was able to enter recovery, this Autorec installed 2.7.0.0 according to the splash screen, and the AT&T D800 is not on their list.
The TWRP manager says it is not installed, so tried CWM manager and installed CWM, it said some 5.x version installed when latest is the 6.0.4.4, downloaded an img, but been a while since pushed those onto a device and lost the knowledge..
It was within the CWM app that had option to reboot into recovery after it thought it installed properly, the TWRP was very basic and I lucked out not bricking my device using it in my opinion. I didn't see much info on flashing to CM12 and used same method as before, I see others flashing 2 times and adding kernels, some say to add SU, some say to not, a guide would rock.

sobitthen said:
Do we need to use this tool every time to enter recovery to flash a ROM as I chose reboot and did not see any advanced options present and nothing under developer, have not checked SU yet, if it is there, will come back and clarify the next step, as simply installing Autorec does not give me the option to reboot into recovery using the phone's main power button....
....so tried CWM manager and installed CWM, it said some 5.x version installed when latest is the 6.0.4.4, downloaded an img, but been a while since pushed those onto a device and lost the knowledge..
It was within the CWM app that had option to reboot into recovery after it thought it installed properly, the TWRP was very basic and I lucked out not bricking my device using it in my opinion. I didn't see much info on flashing to CM12 and used same method as before, I see others flashing 2 times and adding kernels, some say to add SU, some say to not, a guide would rock.
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The D800....y stock image does not have the option to reboot into recovery, since there wasn't a custom recovery to boot into until you installed twrp. Even still, no option unless you install a custom ROM or useYou should use TWRP anyway, better support for it on the D80x series and it has more features.

how to unroot nougat

Hi, I installed Thor v2 rom, nougat. However, i can't find a way to unroot it, whether using SuperSU unroot menu, or installing other kernel.
Upon boot, it shows samsung, but then back again to TWRP recovery, cannot go straight to OS.
Please help. I really need to unroot since i wanted to use several apps which detects root/

You need reinstall the OS via Odin

duke_dreadmoore said:
Hi, I installed Thor v2 rom, nougat. However, i can't find a way to unroot it, whether using SuperSU unroot menu, or installing other kernel.
Upon boot, it shows samsung, but then back again to TWRP recovery, cannot go straight to OS.
Please help. I really need to unroot since i wanted to use several apps which detects root/
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Flash a ROM zip. Or flash the super user uninstaller zip

godkingofcanada said:
Flash a ROM zip. Or flash the super user uninstaller zip
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Uninstaller not working. It looks like the ROM (thor v2) already modifies the boot, so it's not working without root. It's bootlooping to recovery screen. Is it?

duke_dreadmoore said:
Uninstaller not working. It looks like the ROM (thor v2) already modifies the boot, so it's not working without root. It's bootlooping to recovery screen. Is it?[/QUOToh I get it. Its pre rooted so there is no boot.IMG to revert to. I thought the su uninstaller would remove itself from the boot. Just use a different ROM bro
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