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The glass is been take appart from the body , just a little bit. As you know water reaallllyy love this . So after an hour of discussion with Xperia support the rma as been created and 3 days after i shipped it. The water seal as been void and the z3 is still working ! :good: 10 days later Sony send me an email : we apologize for the delay in our response. In regards your request, your case (RMA#XXXXXXXXXX / IMEI :XXXXXXXXXX ) was escalated to our repair department's attention and the response after a diagnost, will be Swap, since your device is an international version, we do not carrie the D6653. We have as a Option Black model D6603, as a replacement, meaning that this is a local variant for your device, We are wating for your approval to have your this replacement shipped to you as soon is possible, please get in contact with us any time soon to know if you approve to receive this model.
YESSS Finally the real international model , compatible with the LTE for free !
I got the same problem with my Xperia Z but i sold it anyway before reseal him .
As you can see they didn't juge the fact of the water as penetrated the device, so you can take a chance with Xperia Care Canada !
Im sorry for my bad English , my primary languages french
What is the problem then? And define 'real' international model lol
Sent from my D6653 using XDA Free mobile app
The problem so far was the back panel , the glue didn't do a good job with this one . And for the real model i mean compatible LTE in Canada and for Usa too , but this phone is the best i never seen so far !
xavierlangevin1 said:
The problem so far was the back panel , the glue didn't do a good job with this one . And for the real model i mean compatible LTE in Canada and for Usa too , but this phone is the best i never seen so far !
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The back of my D6603 feels rather elastic. It makes a clicking noise that I don't particularly like. Is this similar to the problem you had? I would be up to rma the device if need be.
xavierlangevin1 said:
The problem so far was the back panel , the glue didn't do a good job with this one . And for the real model i mean compatible LTE in Canada and for Usa too , but this phone is the best i never seen so far !
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Thats the US model then lol. The international model is the D6653
Sent from my D6653 using XDA Free mobile app
@Jumaqidi , The D6603 and the D6653 are not the 2 international version ? i think it's the D6616 the locked version of the phone ?
@xnerdx no... you should check the pressure sensor. With mine the problem i only notice it when i wash it , so after that the little piece of water indicator became red... i only open the sim & sd flaps like 10 time..
xavierlangevin1 said:
@Jumaqidi , The D6603 and the D6653 are not the 2 international version ? i think it's the D6616 the locked version of the phone ?
@xnerdx no... you should check the pressure sensor. With mine the problem i only notice it when i wash it , so after that the little piece of water indicator became red... i only open the sim & sd flaps like 10 time..
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There should only be one international variant of a phone at one time. If you search for 'sony z3 international variant', u will get d6653 as the search results.
Sent from my D6653 using XDA Free mobile app
D6603 can be considered the international version as it has the most LTE bands.
D6653 is more for some countries in Asia like India. Also Australia.
D6616 is meant for T-Mobile US only as it only has those three LTE bands.
L55 u/t is for China.
List of LTE Networks/Bands around the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
D6616 is T-Mobile US, only has LTE Bands 2,4,12
D6603 is the unlocked version in US also, it has all bands needed for AT&T & T-Mobile (except band 12 on T-Mobile)
D6603
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 [Xperia Z3 Dual]
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653 (Not LTE Compatible in US, only has LTE 5 for US)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
L55t
TD-LTE Bands 38, 39, 40, 41 (CMCC)
FDD-LTE Bands 1, 3 and 7 (roaming only)
UMTS HSPA+ Bands 1, 2, 5, 8
TD-SCDMA Bands 34, 39
L55u
TD-LTE Band 41 (China Unicom), Band 40 (roaming only)
FDD-LTE Band 3 (China Unicom), Band 1 (roaming only)
UMTS HSPA+ Bands 1, 2, 5, 8
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
After so much time , i finally receive the D6603 and surprise in the box a original new charger ! They come in the original box and a sticker swap stock was on it. That cost me an Xperia E1 during this soooo long process, but it was definitely worth it.
My gf has the Moto G 2013 (1st Edition) Global GSM xt1032. Will it work in Japan?
Here are the specs from Motorola's website:
Global GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
Requires a microSIM card (not included)
GSMareana.com claims Japan supports the following frequencies:
JAPAN
2G capabilities
3G capabilities : UMTS 800, UMTS 900, UMTS 1500, UMTS 1700, UMTS 2100
4G capabilities : LTE 850, LTE 1500, LTE 1800, LTE 2100, LTE 2500
It would appear Japan supports UMTS 900 and 2100 which the xt1032 supports so 3g should work, but I don't know if I am doing this right so I would like confirmation.
Thank you!
I've used mine with no issues for around 5months! I believe Japan uses UMTS 2100.
However, you will probably not be able to use the special mobile email that Japanese networks use.
if so, what model will work best in USA? Is the appropriate model rootable/unlockable yet?
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
D6603
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 (dual SIM)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 (32GB)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
I bought the 6603 from a US online e-tail shop and it works well with TMo.
The ones from Japan only support bands for Japan so it'll not work in the U.S
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Talking about LTE in North America below. Bare in mind that band 12 (700 mHz) is T-Mobile only, band 13 (a different 700 mHz) is Verizon only and band 17 (another 700 mHz) is AT&T only. Don't worry about anything below 4G LTE, they all work anywhere. Lacking a band that your network provider has doesn't mean you can't use 4G LTE with them, it simply means it won't be the best the provider can give (i.e. not the fastest/worse single received indoor.)
gnormal said:
if so, what model will work best in USA? Is the appropriate model rootable/unlockable yet?
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...ria_Z3_D6603_D6633_D6643_D6653_D6616_WP_1.pdf
D6603
Most adaptable version, Band 2 & 4 work with all major US LTE network providers
Band 13 works with Verizon only while band 17 works with AT&T only
Lacks T-Mobile's band 12
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D6633 (dual SIM)
Same as above but lacks band 13 from Verizon and of course, two sims
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6643
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is probably sold in Brazil even though it has the same bands the aboves do
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
D6653
International version, but not international enough for US LTE bands. (I think it's the Asia version.)
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
TD-LTE (Band 40)
FD-LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
D6616 (32GB)
US T-Mobile version, only support T-Mobile's LTE bands
Band 12 is T-Mobile only
Band 2 & 4 work with other networks
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 2, 4, 12)
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Remember, if the phone writes "DoCoMo" or "Softbank"...instead of "SONY" on the top front area of the phone, it's built only for Japan. Avoid those! Hope that helps!
Hello everyone,
I am planning to buy a new phone, and I am considering to choose either Xperia Z5 or Xperia Z5 Dual.
For me, it is necessary to use a dual SIM phone for working purposes. But if Xperia Z5 Dual has missed some critical function, then I may consider to buy Xperia Z5 instead, just like Z3+ Dual does not support Quick Charge 2.0, that is a very important function for me.
I have searched information over the internet about these 2 phones and I found some of the information are different between different web sites.
Could somebody conclude difference between these 2 phones?
Some critical functions for me:
1. Do both phones support QC 2.0?
2. Xperia Z5 Dual supports less 4G channels? Will this affects me to use the phone in different countries?
3. Anymore other differences on hardware specification?
Hope somebody can help and sorry for my terrible English grammar.
Regards,
Henry
We have same interests also. I'll just leave my comment here so that I can get a notification.
biohazardta said:
Hello everyone,
I am planning to buy a new phone, and I am considering to choose either Xperia Z5 or Xperia Z5 Dual.
For me, it is necessary to use a dual SIM phone for working purposes. But if Xperia Z5 Dual has missed some critical function, then I may consider to buy Xperia Z5 instead, just like Z3+ Dual does not support Quick Charge 2.0, that is a very important function for me.
I have searched information over the internet about these 2 phones and I found some of the information are different between different web sites.
Could somebody conclude difference between these 2 phones?
Some critical functions for me:
1. Do both phones support QC 2.0?
2. Xperia Z5 Dual supports less 4G channels? Will this affects me to use the phone in different countries?
3. Anymore other differences on hardware specification?
Hope somebody can help and sorry for my terrible English grammar.
Regards,
Henry
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1. should do as previous xperias do
2. look up the device supported bands on Gsmarena
3. no aside the dual sim module.
@biohazardta @hustlervanz
1. Both should support QC 2.0
"When you do need topping up, Xperia Z5 Dual has Quick Charge capabilities to give you a full day of power in just 45 minutes"
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-dual/
"When you do need topping up, Xperia Z5 has Quick Charge capabilities to get you a full day of power in just 45 minutes"
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5/
2. Both have two variants. You should check out the white papers to find the right version
Single:
E6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38, 40)
E6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_E6603_E6653_WP_1.pdf
Dual:
E6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6683 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_dual_E6633_E6683_WP_1.pdf
3.
Single
LTE Cat 4 (E6603) Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 150 Mbps (download)
LTE Cat 6 (E6653) Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 300 Mbps (download)
Dual:
(For both) Only Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 150 Mbps (download)
Your English is fine!
schecter7 said:
@biohazardta @hustlervanz
1. Both should support QC 2.0
"When you do need topping up, Xperia Z5 Dual has Quick Charge capabilities to give you a full day of power in just 45 minutes"
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-dual/
"When you do need topping up, Xperia Z5 has Quick Charge capabilities to get you a full day of power in just 45 minutes"
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5/
2. Both have two variants. You should check out the white papers to find the right version
Single:
E6603 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38, 40)
E6653 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_E6603_E6653_WP_1.pdf
Dual:
E6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6683 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_dual_E6633_E6683_WP_1.pdf
3.
Single
LTE Cat 4 (E6603) Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 150 Mbps (download)
LTE Cat 6 (E6653) Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 300 Mbps (download)
Dual:
(For both) Only Up to 50 Mbps (upload), up to 150 Mbps (download)
Your English is fine!
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Dear schecter7,
Thank you so much for your detailed information, I feel comfortable to buy Z5 Dual now, thanks!
This link should be Handy Dandy...
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?&idPhone2=7537&idPhone3=7538&idPhone1=7588
Hello, Z3+ dual sim about the bands the same of z5 and support QC 2.0. This phone has heating issues. Someone know if with inminent update to Marshmalow will improve it this problem?
I say this because the device is cheaper.
Thanks
Z5 Dual Community support
I would like to know if the ROM building will be available to Dual version also?
I would go for Z5 if the custom Rom support wont be extended to the Z5Dual. This is very imp for me. If there is a custom ROM for Z5, can it easily be ported to Z5Dual?
Hi Guys, someone knows if is possible to root this device? Thank u so much!
beside these differences...
Dual tend to get less love from Sony and from Developers... Dual software updates takes longer to release than single software updates... Z3 & Z3+ for example dual versions will get the software update 1 - 3 months after single version.. I don't know if Sony changed this with Z5 or not which is unlikely...
Developers side means there's much less chance of having ROM's, mod's and even basic root... and if there's these will take longer time than single...
Hi,
All is in the title
I have a Z5 DUAL E6683, with stock ROM Customised HK. Can i flash it the same build number but for an 6633 model (Customised FR). It is also DUAL SIM.
Thanks.
From the "Xperia Z5 Dual (E6633 and E6683) white paper" :
Networks
E6633 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6683 UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)