Hi.
Ive read many various posts on this volume/output topic but selfishly could I keep this one upgrade specific.
I know the z3 has low headphone volume but im told the same about my s3 even though I find it ok.
Could someone who has had both compare them for me .Really want the z3 but wouldnt if it is much quiter than s3 .
Thanks .
Ps . New to forum .Apologies if in wrong place
If you have low impedence (ie 16 Ohms) headests like most earphones you won't notice it. With high impedence earphones and headphones (ie 32 Ohms) you will start getting volume issues.
Look at the impedence (in Ohms) of your headset or obviously by direct use.
Im using ajay ones which are 16ohms. So all good .
Really just after the difference between the two ,assuming same headphones used in both, so as to make it a good test.
Cheers for replying tho
Never had a S3 but I used to have the A-Jays Three and when using them with my Z1 and Z2 volume output was never an issue
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S3 headphone volume is a lot higher than Z3. All the Z's seem to have low headphone volume.
Hmmm was hoping that wasnt the case . I saw a list on phonearena that had the z3 and s3 with the same measurement of headphone output & was hoping that meant volume was comparable !
Thinking of waiting for z4 now , rumours are may have audio upgrade to deal with the low volume .
Irritated as outherwise z3 was perfect for me , but too many people hammering it for it just to be a small difference or people used to the really loud iphones.
...shame
Still have not got to test the Z3 . But managed to test a friends Z2 ( which im told is similar headphone volume to Z3 ).
And to be honest anyone thinking of upgrading from a Samsung S3 should not worry as the volume is virtually identical.
It seems that most people who find the Z2/3 too quiet have probably switched from the much louder ( too loud imo ) iphones and htc .
On a side note always wondered why so few reviews ( youtube etc..) compare new phones with the ones from 2 years ago. Most people get new handsets at the end of contract which is usually two years! But all the reviews focus on is phones that you probably dont have , I understand its to weigh up which is best but as so many aspects of these phones are purely induvidual opinion it would be good to have some point of reference at hand .
Moan over
Sony always have low volume in headphones comparing it to another brand, and i hate it! but I find that the volume in the Z3 is totally acceptable.. I use the Z2 noise cancelling headphone and the sony z3 headphone (MH-750) both sound with a prety good volume.. Whith my old Z2 -I HAVE TO- install an audio mod, because the volume was too low, but the Z3 with all stock sound with a higher volume.
Yeah its totally personal , I tried it (z2) with a set of average headphones and while I could see some people wanting more ( I did myself when I went from iphone to samsung ) im used to it now !
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Guys please recommend some good headphones or earphones for z1c.
Currently using - sennheiser - lx90 and sony stock earphones.
Requirement - A little loud ( Noise cancellation will do ) and compatible with z1c
Wasimariflone said:
Guys please recommend some good headphones or earphones for z1c.
Currently using - sennheiser - lx90 and sony stock earphones.
Requirement - A little loud ( Noise cancellation will do ) and compatible with z1c
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I'm currently use both:
Meelectronics M-Duo (dual driver, one button +mic)
Xiaomy piston (single driver, 3 buttons + mic)
And they both works like a charm also all the buttons works (vol up/down or skip track).
Before i've used also a pair of bluetooth headphones: the Jabra Revo Wireless (no problem at all and same HIGH audio fidelity)
wolf230 said:
I'm currently use both:
Meelectronics M-Duo (dual driver, one button +mic)
Xiaomy piston (single driver, 3 buttons + mic)
And they both works like a charm also all the buttons works (vol up/down or skip track).
Before i've used also a pair of bluetooth headphones: the Jabra Revo Wireless (no problem at all and same HIGH audio fidelity)
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will they work well on stock rom or i have to flash a custom rom ? and what about sony newly released Sony sth 30 earphones ?
Hello,
I've also got a pair of Xiaomi Pistons V 2.0 and they're great. They're the best inearphones I've ever had and they're a lot better than my other inearphones such as Beats by Dre Urbeats and A-Jays One Plus.
Xiaomi Pistons works out of the box without the need of flashing a kernel, and does support volume control and such.
Make sure that you order from a trusted store such as PenonAudio or Ibuygou, there are a lot of counterfeits around. All of the ones sold on ebay are counterfeits.
devstaff said:
Hello,
I've also got a pair of Xiaomi Pistons V 2.0 and they're great. They're the best inearphones I've ever had and they're a lot better than my other inearphones such as Beats by Dre Urbeats and A-Jays One Plus.
Xiaomi Pistons works out of the box without the need of flashing a kernel, and does support volume control and such.
Make sure that you order from a trusted store such as PenonAudio or Ibuygou, there are a lot of counterfeits around. All of the ones sold on ebay are counterfeits.
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Where to buy them in india ?
Wasimariflone said:
Where to buy them in india ?
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You've gotta order them from Ibuygou.com or PenonAudio, they're only sold in China or online at some retailers. Ibuygou ships to India I think, but I'm not sure.
devstaff said:
You've gotta order them from Ibuygou.com or PenonAudio, they're only sold in China or online at some retailers. Ibuygou ships to India I think, but I'm not sure.
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Thanks :good:
Just to make your decision a bit harder - have you ever looked at the hippoVB's? They were my first IEMs and I never really like any others after them. What i really love is that you can change some screws in the back to adjust the amount of bass. If you get some comply foam tips with them you can hear almost nothing from the outside world
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Just to make your decision a bit harder - have you ever looked at the hippoVB's? They were my first IEMs and I never really like any others after them. What i really love is that you can change some screws in the back to adjust the amount of bass. If you get some comply foam tips with them you can hear almost nothing from the outside world
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Too many options ,
now Just recommend one of these
1-Sony sth30
2-Soundmagic e10
3-soundmagic e30
4- recommend your own which is available in india
it should be loud with bass as z1c lacks loudness
I am sorry for intruding here, but after it is often pointed out how good headphone X keeps ambient noise out, I want to ask if there are any suggestions for android-compatible quality in-ears (more buttons are better than less) that do not mute ambient sounds too much(?)
That is, I want to - of course - hear what comes from the speakers but still be able to have a little acoustic feedback from my surroundings (when I'm cycling in heavy traffic, to give just one example). I sometimes use the stock in-ears that came with the phone and don't like how I can't hear much besides what comes out of the tiny speakers (and occasionally my blood rushing and whatever funny bodily sound effects there may be).
Ordered SoundMagic E10's - Will Post a Review soon after they Come.
I got SoundMagic ES18, after i heard the awesome sound for 12 USD price ... ordered 2 extra to have backup for the backup
make sure u "burn" them a bit before listening. just play white noise sound on full vol overnight.
if you are rooted, also install the volume boost so you get more volume.
I was thinking of burning them with pink noise, could you please give me links for good burn in tracks and little more information on that
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Hey install dfx audio enhancer, worth a try, greatly improve sound quality and. Loudness a bit
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i ordered the xiaomi pistons, delivery for 1st august.
lets see if they will be the real deal
Gjole86 said:
i ordered the xiaomi pistons, delivery for 1st august.
lets see if they will be the real deal
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Soundmagic e10 , I was very disappointed. after all those reviews and awards they are nothing special, good but not great. my stock samsung inears sound louder and equal quality to them
i just got the xiaomi pistons v2 .. well the soundmagic es18 sound better to me.
using the same earplugs silicons to make sure its exact same seal in the ear.
really not impressed for the double the price of es18
Gjole86 said:
i just got the xiaomi pistons v2 .. well the soundmagic es18 sound better to me.
using the same earplugs silicons to make sure its exact same seal in the ear.
really not impressed for the double the price of es18
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Have you burned in your Pistons?
actually not, i gave them to my brother who used them for some days.
now i got em back and sound so much better than before.
still ES18 are quite close compared for the price tag.
to be sure, i will burn them today overnight with pink noise
Plz Somebody tell me a good inear earphones and headphones for my z1 compact, totally disappointed by the level of sound produced by them, way too low, Don't know why.
Currently i'm using
Sound magic ES18 (loudness ok which vanishes as bass part comes)
Razer electra ( Clear but lacks loudness )
Sony v55 ( whispering)
I'm currently planning to buy piston v2, will be there any significant change over es18.
If not is it possible to connect external sound card through otg to this ****ty phone, if yes plz tell me the name of sound dac.
Hello.
I have Z for an year already and I'm still enjoying this phone much. One BIG disadvantage was very low volume with headphones.
I have one panasonic headphone, one from sony, and that one which came with it.
Recently my gf bought Z2 and I was testing it. Incredible device. But I'm not talking about that. I tested earbuds which came with Z2.
I found them ABSOLUTELY fantastic. incredibly high volume, best bass ever, best treble.
one little thing. if you want to make it work, you have to NOT plug it in phone completely. make sure you left some 0.2-0.5mm of jack outside of phone. it's not that comfortable, but headphones are worth of that (if you will not leave a bit of jack outside, you will hear only in one speaker)
MDR-NC31EM is name of it.
P.S. voice it has is REALLY good.
NorwayFun said:
Hello.
I have Z for an year already and I'm still enjoying this phone much. One BIG disadvantage was very low volume with headphones.
I have one panasonic headphone, one from sony, and that one which came with it.
Recently my gf bought Z2 and I was testing it. Incredible device. But I'm not talking about that. I tested earbuds which came with Z2.
I found them ABSOLUTELY fantastic. incredibly high volume, best bass ever, best treble.
one little thing. if you want to make it work, you have to NOT plug it in phone completely. make sure you left some 0.2-0.5mm of jack outside of phone. it's not that comfortable, but headphones are worth of that (if you will not leave a bit of jack outside, you will hear only in one speaker)
MDR-NC31EM is name of it.
P.S. voice it has is REALLY good.
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They work on Z like all others when I plug it completely, but you won't be able to use the mic or noise cancellation as the power source required for the noise-cancelling microphone is located in the earphone's connector. And volume of my old Xperia Z buds is fantastic and almost the same as with Z1 and Z2 buds (I'm a sony earbuds freak ). Better check your earbuds or phone connector.
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They work on Z like all others when I plug it completely, but you won't be able to use the mic or noise cancellation as the power source required for the noise-cancelling microphone is located in the earphone's connector. And volume of my old Xperia Z buds is fantastic and almost the same as with Z1 and Z2 buds (I'm a sony earbuds freak ). Better check your earbuds or phone connector.
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You can improve the Volume problem of your earphone by visiting this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673371
iSiddharth said:
You can improve the Volume problem of your earphone by visiting this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673371
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I don't have problem with volume level on my earbuds.
If u need better earphones...with noise cancellation...then ders senheiser cx180...til700inr..!
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Hello!
As some of you knows it already the Z2 speakers are low out of the box and even only one speaker works when the phone ring.
Do you think the Z3 will be louder with tweaks as Phonearena review is saying it's not loud enough?
Btw does the new UI has a car app?
Please post questions in the Q&A section
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Hello!
As some of you knows it already the Z2 speakers are low out of the box and even only one speaker works when the phone ring.
Do you think the Z3 will be louder with tweaks as Phonearena review is saying it's not loud enough?
Btw does the new UI has a car app?
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Hiya
Just got mine last night. The bottom speaker is the only speaker that plays when the phone rings, although it is quite loud. Texts seem quiet though. This would be better through both speakers though for sure.
Can't see a Car app on UK unlocked model.
Different with my Z3 (bought via Vodafone Germany): BOTH speakers are used for incoming call sounds; pretty decent volume.
Didn't notice a "car app"; there's Garmin navigation preinstalled - but the usual "try and NOT buy" kind. So just regard it as nonexistent, simply stick with Google Maps. And yes, Sony generously allows deinstalling Garmin navigation.
Speakers in general: Nice and clear sound, quite deep stereo effect, but a bit thin, could be louder, about the same volume as Samsung's S4.
Playing around with preamp settings does NOT help, just leads to distortions.
HORRIBLE volume via 3,5 mm connector - AS USAL, volume is FAR TOO LOW for powering anything else than that infamous earwax pullers (in-ear headphones).
For something positive: The sound via headphones connector is real fine, you won't be disappointed if it comes to audio fidelity.
this is probably done on purpose by design. sony probably figures if they enabled both speakers or made them louder it would be pretty rude when in public places.. something would agree with.. nothing more annoying than to be at a public place and hearing phones ringing at full volume . IMO these devices are already ring loud enough.. i keep mine at middle volume and is plenty loud. i think people that require louder should invest in hearing aids or perhaps clean their ears :laugh:
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this is probably done on purpose by design. sony probably figures if they enabled both speakers or made them louder it would be pretty rude when in public places.. something would agree with.. nothing more annoying than to be at a public place and hearing phones ringing at full volume . IMO these devices are already ring loud enough.. i keep mine at middle volume and is plenty loud. i think people that require louder should invest in hearing aids or perhaps clean their ears :laugh:
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Can't say limiting the ability of the phone to ring through both speakers is a design feature.
I'm going to keep looking to see if anyone sorts the sound coming out of one speaker as this is the culprit I think.
Edit: I actually think having both speakers playing would allow them to reduce the volume in both, allowing for less distortion and a nice sounding ringtone.
Im currently test driving the IPhone 6...yes don't bash me this is my first iPhone...I'll like to know if the speaker output on the Z3 is as loud as the iPhone 6?
I just own z3 I can tell speaker very low.I owned z1 z2 before. same kind **** Sony don't improve anything
shook187 said:
Im currently test driving the IPhone 6...yes don't bash me this is my first iPhone...I'll like to know if the speaker output on the Z3 is as loud as the iPhone 6?
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The iPhone 6 speaker is louder, but since it's always facing the wrong direction, the louder speaker doesn't always translate to more sound reaching your ears. Your hand often covers the speaker as you hold it as well.
It's plenty loud, maybe not as good as HTC M8 levels in terms of clarity at full volume but pretty close.
Speaker tests from GSMArena. Look for stats in a table in the middle of the page in each link.
http://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_6-review-1141p7.php
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p6.php
Hi everybody I am coming from HTC one m8 thus sound guality is very important for me. I tried z3 at 4 different stores. Only at 1 of them the top speaker didn't crackle badly playing just the songs which the walkman app has preloaded. What is the deal with the top speaker? Does it do the same for you? I was very dissapointed because after reading many reviews of the z3, (none of them reports such a problem), I thought it could be my next phone...
morfini said:
Hi everybody I am coming from HTC one m8 thus sound guality is very important for me. I tried z3 at 4 different stores. Only at 1 of them the top speaker didn't crackle badly playing just the songs which the walkman app has preloaded. What is the deal with the top speaker? Does it do the same for you? I was very dissapointed because after reading many reviews of the z3, (none of them reports such a problem), I thought it could be my next phone...
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I have heard this from others as well, mine seems balanced though. I made my dad get a M8, it does sound slightly better than the Z3.
Coming back to your Z3 return it and test the new one before keeping, if you are getting from a carrier. My sister's GS4 had a yellow tint screen at the top so I took her to T-Mobile and they let here test out other brand new GS4s before replacing hers. Go and do the same!
morfini said:
Hi everybody I am coming from HTC one m8 thus sound guality is very important for me. I tried z3 at 4 different stores. Only at 1 of them the top speaker didn't crackle badly playing just the songs which the walkman app has preloaded. What is the deal with the top speaker? Does it do the same for you? I was very dissapointed because after reading many reviews of the z3, (none of them reports such a problem), I thought it could be my next phone...
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I have the same problem in though its a software problem but I think hardware related top speaker crackle for me on some songs a bit and it's have much more bass than the bottom speaker
Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
Ryland:good:
ynrozturk said:
I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
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I had the same problem on my Oneplus 3T so I do not think it is hardware related. (I was playing pokemon GO while listening to music)
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Yep, Exynos version.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
Ryland:good:
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Thanks for your input. I know where you're coming from because I think the same. I'm a musician so audio is kind of a big part of my life. I don't buy a phone expecting it to have the power of my DAC's or amps at home - but I want it to be decent at least. The S8's isn't decent - far from it. I've thrown a number of headphones and IEM's at it and it still performs poorly - because the DAC inside is poor. It really is that quite simple. I don't expect it to run my Beyerdynamic T1's or anything, lol. But I do expect it to run my IEM Shure or Sennheisers at least decently, which it doesn't.
I also agree about the camera part. While I do appreciate a good camera in my phone, when I go out to take pictures I would much rather have my Sony A7RII with me, along with some Zeiss glass.
Ironic that once it was the Exynos versions (Note 3) that had premium audio (Wolfson DAC) while the Snapdragon phones languished. Now it seems it's the exact opposite, lots of complaints from the Exynos crowd and nothing but praise from the Snapdragon set. I personally have the US ATT version (SD835 + Aqstic DAC) and the sound quality is superb, both with full custom Shure SE-535Vs and Sennheiser HD-700s (directly driven from the phone). Definitely a step up from my S7E.
For reference I'm also a musician with a pretty good idea of what real instruments sound like (9ft Concert Grand in my living room).