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[Q]mms/sms problems

Title says it all...
Problems: duplicate incoming texts, forever/never downloading mms (when received with data off), and just yesterday I received a text that sent to me back in March...
As far as outgoing, other than having messages fail to send due to signal strength, I have no clue if I'm sending multiple texts or if all texts are being received. I haven't really done any testing. This problem is just really annoying and persistent.
Current Setup: Tweaked 2.2, FP1 kernel, ext4
I did a full wipe before flashing, the only thing that I can think of is that I restored mms/sms from TB. I have this problem once or twice in the past but then it always went away once I flashed a newer update or different ROM.
You guys think clearing data on the Messaging apk might help? There is also MMS Provisioning...?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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JihadSquad said:
I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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I know about data & mms (and larger sms texts), but I was hoping this wasn't thanks to VZW and instead something with my setup...
Sorry I should have clarified this a little better:
In the past, if I sent/received a mms, I would need to switch data on for it to actually download/upload. In other words, the message would just sit there until I switched data on, and then it would do it's thing. Usually, this would only take a few seconds. Now, when I try to send/receive I actually have to have data on before I send/receive, or else the message will just sit there downloading/uploading and never finish. At which point it seems to slow down my phone, until I just delete the unsent/not received message.
I hope that makes more sense.

You can go into an app like System Panel and kill Messaging to reset your "Downloading..." message. Be sure you turn data on before you relaunch the app.
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JihadSquad said:
I find that the double texts I get are problems from the other side (mostly t-mobile users). As for receiving mms with data off, you can only send/receive mms with data (no wifi).
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You've solve a mystery I've been unable to figure out for some time! I never realized mms didn't work over wifi. I could never figure out why I would sometimes get photos via txt, and sometimes not. Always thought it was stupid Verizon being...um...stupid. Why is that?
Thanks!

kvswim said:
You can go into an app like System Panel and kill Messaging to reset your "Downloading..." message. Be sure you turn data on before you relaunch the app.
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I tried the System Panel tip, and I also tried just force closing Messaging, but neither seemed to work. I eventually just re-flashed everything from scratch and my messaging issues are gone. Its weird, maybe it was just a coincidence or timing with VZW....?
Oh well, thanks for the help/responses guys.

Nexus 5 Not Sending/Receiving MMS

Hey guys,
So I just got my Nexus 5 about a week ago, and love it so far. I immediately downloaded 8sms because it seems like Hangouts is still a work in progress.. Anyway, for some reason my phone will not auto-retrieve MMS messages. I've tried changing the MMSC values within the app and restarting it, but it hasn't helped.
I usually keep Mobile Data set to off, as I'm usually at school/work and both have secure WiFi.
My old HTC Desire HD was able to automatically turn data on momentarily to receive MMS, then shut off. This was a stock feature of the phone. Is this not the case with the Nexus 5? I don't want to have to go and turn on mobile data every time a MMS notification pops up; it just seems stupid to have to.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!

Turn mobile data on!
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I guess it is a good thing to have but if every app could turn on data when they wanted and download anything then it would defeat the point of having data off. I agree with you though that in that situation it should automatically download.
With that said, some custom ROMs have this feature but it's not included in stock Android. When data is manually disabled by the user i'd expect it to stay off however for anything.

Does the automatically download mms feature not let the data turn on to download the message?
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dicecuber said:
Turn mobile data on!
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The problem is, I've tried just running around with mobile data on, and wifi on, but it still will not download the MMS messages. I have to manually turn off wifi, and then it will switch to data and download the MMS...

Try smart messenger or textra or Hangouts it could be a issue with the texting app
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I might try going to my carrier to see if there's a solution. It seems silly that a 3 year old smartphone (my old HTC) had the ability to automatically turn on/off data for MMS, but not the Nexus..

Go to your T-mobile account find where you would select a phone and choose the Nexus 5. Wait a little and restart your phone and see if it works after an hour or 2.
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yogenfruz said:
I might try going to my carrier to see if there's a solution. It seems silly that a 3 year old smartphone (my old HTC) had the ability to automatically turn on/off data for MMS, but not the Nexus..
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Were you able to find a fix to this? My texts were completely fine for the first day or two I had it while i was on wifi. But just realized today that i might of been missing out on a day or twos worth of texts when my friend asked me why i didnt respond. So i turned off my wifi and i recieved alot of texts at once.
Im currently using the default hangouts app so im not sure whats causing this.. looks like i have to turn off wifi to get and send texts.

I also have this demand. My old HTC phone(Incredible S, flashed with CM rom) was able to automatically turn data on momentarily to receive MMS, then shut off. I haven't change the carrier. So, it's the 4.4 problem

Still no fix for this. I also noticed that if a MMS message is to be received, but mobile data on the N5 is off, 8sms will constantly try to fetch it, unsuccessfully... This causes a notable battery drain and even had 8sms as the top battery usage when checking battery stats. I guess in a way, it's a way to see if you have an MMS message incoming, but still... Really wish data would just auto on/off when the device detected a MMS incoming/outgoing.

yogenfruz said:
Still no fix for this. I also noticed that if a MMS message is to be received, but mobile data on the N5 is off, 8sms will constantly try to fetch it, unsuccessfully... This causes a notable battery drain and even had 8sms as the top battery usage when checking battery stats. I guess in a way, it's a way to see if you have an MMS message incoming, but still... Really wish data would just auto on/off when the device detected a MMS incoming/outgoing.
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I also use 8SMS. I don't know if this will solve your problem, but basically, the problem I had, was that if I were to send a text that was over 160 characters, the old messaging app on my S3, would automatically convert it to an MMS (which I think most phones do). For some reason, this was disabled in 8SMS.
The way to fix that, is to go into 8SMS settings, and find the option that says "Convert long sms to mms" and switch it to "1".
This worked for me, I had a slightly different problem then you are describing, but perhaps this could be a fix for you as well?
I hope that helps, if not, well, maybe it'll help someone else!

I use CM and the option to enable data to download MMS is not included yet. However i have no problem downloading MMS while connected to 3G. As long as your APN has MMS in the APN Types field it should automatically use that connection instead to get MMS.
I didn't have this issue on stock either (4.4) so maybe it's a carrier thing?

for me the problem is when I'm connected to a WiFi network the phone automatically turns off wifi to download the message and then never re-enables wifi turn it back on I understand that MMS must be downloaded through the carrier network but if I remember correctly it wasn't until recently that I wasn't able to have wifi and download message at the same time.
Nexus 5 Android 4.4.4, Tmobile: when at home my cellular has 1 bar (LTE). If wifi is connected, outgoing MMS does not succeed. I get notifications for incoming MMS, but it asks to "download" the message which fails. The moment I disconnect wifi in the same spot (literally without moving), MMS resumes working both for incoming and outgoing communications. Connecting wifi again causes it to fail.
I do remember a time that the phone was able to enable both connections at the same time to download an MMS and then subsequently keep everything else that I do on the phone through the wifi network.
The only thing I don't know for sure is whether it is a third party messenger problem for a phone problem carrier problem orAndroid bug

I also just realized that I bumped a very old post my apologies if I did not read enough to find a solution amongst other threads.
But any help would be great

[Q] MMS Not Working?

I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???

bigdanc123 said:
I've had my Nexus 5 for about two weeks now. I've just tried sending a Picture Message for the first time with this phone, but it keeps failing?
I'm on a Vodafone 4G contract, but I'm at home so I'm connected to my WiFi. I've tried downloading ChompSMS which is what I used to use on my previous phone, but it still failed. I've also tried 8SMS which resembles the original Android Messaging App, but no joy?
I've just tried disabling WiFi, and it managed to send the message?!
What's going on? Do I really need to disable WiFi every time I want to send MMS???
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you need network data connection to send mms, not wifi. mms go through your carrier, thats why they charge for it. if you could send mms over wifi, they couldnt charge you for it.

You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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lauterm said:
You shouldn't need to disable WiFi to send SMS. That's really strange.
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mms not sms

simms22 said:
mms not sms
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I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.

mikebeatrice said:
I'm sure he typo'd. Either way, you shouldn't have to disable wifi to send MMS. Yes.. you need a data connection to the carrier, but that doesn't mean you should have to disable wifi to do it... I'm waiting for my N5 to show up and have been browsing around here in the mean time... If this is true, then it's definitely a bug as it hasn't affected any other android device I've had from android 2.0 through 4.3. I frequently send MMS while on wifi and it's smart enough to route it through mobile data in the background.
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I've had loads of Android devices too, and this is the first time this has happened. When your phone turns up, please try it and let me know?

i am the one that is wrong here, it should send the mms even though wifi is connected. i tried earlier, and it didnt send(turned out that person changed their number). so i tried again, a different number, and it sent.

MMS Over Wifi

In an effort to squeeze a little extra battery life from my phone I setup a tasker profile to disable mobile data when on Wifi.
Unfortunately, that means I can't get MMS messages when on Wifi. I'm using hangouts, but don't think it's hangouts specific. Any one know if there's a way to make this work? Thanks.

I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.

rand0m_insanity said:
I think you should keep mobile data on anyway, as Android prioritizes Wifi over data. So when connected to Wifi, data is simply disconnected, but not disabled. So sending MMS is still possible even while connected via wifi.
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Yeah, I don't disagree. The problem is for about 15 hours a week I'm in a place where I have abysmal cell coverage. When I'm there my battery goes to crap, I was hoping this would help with it.

Google voice hangout works fine over MMS

frigidazzi said:
Google voice hangout works fine over MMS
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The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.

rbrenart said:
The problem is you can't send receive MMS over Wifi, for some reason it has to use the cellular data.
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With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.

frigidazzi said:
With Google voice you can. I do it all the time. Only use air plane mode with Wi-Fi at work and usually at home... But I'm assuming you aren't using Google voice.
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Ah, I see what you're saying... no, only using Google Voice for voicemail. I must admit, I never did really figure that product out completely.

Nextplus
I use next plus for WiFi text, gives you a separate phone number as well

It depends, I don't use hangouts I use stock sms and MMS sent to my number requires data from the provider, stored on their servers till the image expires, or log into my account to view the image
Are the people sending you these images use hangouts and are logged in?, assuming it will send via Google's services
With 5.1.1 there seems to be a bug with WiFi and data cross over, if I have both on, sometimes data stays on instead of wifi while the phone is sleeping at home, then it switches over when display is on,another reason why I don't leave it on.

It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.

rbrenart said:
It's not about images, it's about MMS for group text messages. And some use hangouts and some do not. Some use android, some use iphone.
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Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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EvilKittyCupcake said:
Hmm.. It should be fine, then.
I tested it with a friend who is on Android. We disabled our mobile data and we could send MMS group messages.
(From Hangouts to Hangouts, no SMS involved. I cannot text using it, anyway, being on iPhone).
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I suggest any one who wants to try for themselves test then, because on my setup I would not get the MMS. It may have been due to emoticons or something else I'm not thinking of, but I clearly remember the separate SMS from my wife asking why I was ignoring everyone on the group text

[Q] MMS & other questions

Greetings,
My son has a Nexus 5 that I recently rooted for him. He is running the stock 6.0 rom. He is having times when he can not receive MMS messages. It will just sit there downloading. This was a problem before he was rooted. I had him try messenger instead of hangouts & that worked for a while but started again yesterday. After I rebooted, it seemed to work for now. Any thoughts? He also has a similar problem downloading torrents. Sometimes it works & sometimes nothing will work. Would going to a different rom help? Maybe Pure Nexus or CM13. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Pat Callaghan

The obvious thing would be the settings. Have you checked the MMS settings with your carrier's website? And (unless I'm badly mistaken) MMS works on data (in the UK at least), so it needs to be switched on to allow the phone to receive MMS messages.
Or do you mean that it's intermittent ("He is having times when he can not receive MMS messages"), in which case it may just be the signal?

dahawthorne said:
The obvious thing would be the settings. Have you checked the MMS settings with your carrier's website? And (unless I'm badly mistaken) MMS works on data (in the UK at least), so it needs to be switched on to allow the phone to receive MMS messages.
Or do you mean that it's intermittent ("He is having times when he can not receive MMS messages"), in which case it may just be the signal?
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I checked the setting to make sure he can receive MMS. Also, data is on & working. As far as the signal strength, if it was low would not all SMS & MMS not be received?
Pat

Pat, I'm an end-user as I guess you are, so I can't talk sensibly about the technicalities. I do know from experience that SMS and MMS are separate functions - you can receive SMSs any time that you have a signal, but if your MMS settings aren't perfectly configured you don't get the messages. On a number of occasions I've had a pop-up saying "You have an MMS message" but it wasn't downloaded until I specifically enabled data (even though wifi was already enabled).
Actually, that last sentence raises a question in my own head. If both wifi and data are on, Android will prefer wifi - I wonder if it actually disables data, or would an MMS still arrive even though wifi is overriding data? Maybe somebody who knows what they're talking about can help us both...
You didn't answer my question about whether it's intermittent. Has the phone ever received MMS? If so, when did it stop? If it has never received them, I would really double-check your carrier website and look particularly for different advice - my own UK provider's forum has a number of pages, and there are several different MMS configurations, all of them claiming to be the definitive settings...