As Nividia decided to go with a Wi-Fi Direct controller, rather than Bluetooth and as theoretically you can get Wi-Fi Direct keyboards and mice, I was wondering if anyone had tried them?
Are Wi-Fi direct keyboards and mice compatible with the Shield Tablet?
Can they be used at the same time as the controller?
Is the lag on Gamestream / Grid games acceptable with Wi-Fi Direct mice and/or keyboards or is USB-OTG the best way to go?
Has anyone found any good deals on them?
I know HP do a Wi-Fi direct mouse, but I haven't seen any Wi-Fi direct keyboards.
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Hi, I have Asus Transformer and Nokia E6.
Is any way how share internet from Nokia to TF? I tried some applications like Joico but they can make only HotSpot but TF probably cannot connet to hotspot.
I tried also some hotspots clients for android but they cannot find Joico accesspoint :-(
Any help? Can I share internet via bluetooth, wi-fi or cable? I have Revolver ROM with support USB dongle modem and it works but using Nokia would be much easier for me.
Thanks.
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I use JoikuSpot, it does pretty good job, sometimes i even gat 7.9mbps,if you didnt hack your phone there is the light version that can fully server your needs
I know this is an old thread, but I am only replying back in the sake of someone else having a similar problem.
Basically, the Asus Transformer and a lot of other Android Tablets don't support ad-hoc connections out-of-box. The Joiku creates ad-hoc connections and the only way to connect to it with an android tablet is if the wpasupplicant file is modified so that it will work with ad-hoc.
There are numerous guides out there. A simple search of "ad-hoc android tablet" will give you some great results.
Was trying to run a mhl setup with my tv, basically mhl forces me to use a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, and controller(no open usb port). The problem would be that Bluetooth interferes with my wireless N network since they all run at the same frequency....so I have wifi with a 100kbps connection at the cost of pairing any Bluetooth devices...they should have at least added 5ghz frequency to avoid extreme interference...This is a horrible setup to run OnLive since it requires 3mbps connection, or most web based apps
A connected bluetooth headset doesn't seem to affect wifi speeds for me, but then again you are using 3 bluetooth devices at the same time. You could try another wifi channel or maybe trying just one of your bluetooth devices at a time to see if one of them is misbehaving?
This is from Wikipedia on how bluetooth is supposed to avoid unnecessary interference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
" Bluetooth devices intended for use in short-range personal area networks operate from 2.4 to 2.4835 GHz. To reduce interference with other protocols that use the 2.45 GHz band, the Bluetooth protocol divides the band into 79 channels (each 1 MHz wide) and changes channels up to 1600 times per second. Newer Bluetooth versions also feature Adaptive Frequency Hopping which attempts to detect existing signals in the ISM band, such as Wi-Fi channels, and avoid them by negotiating a channel map between the communicating Bluetooth devices."
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A connected bluetooth headset doesn't seem to affect wifi speeds for me, but then again you are using 3 bluetooth devices at the same time. You could try another wifi channel or maybe trying just one of your bluetooth devices at a time to see if one of them is misbehaving?
This is from Wikipedia on how bluetooth is supposed to avoid unnecessary interference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
" Bluetooth devices intended for use in short-range personal area networks operate from 2.4 to 2.4835 GHz. To reduce interference with other protocols that use the 2.45 GHz band, the Bluetooth protocol divides the band into 79 channels (each 1 MHz wide) and changes channels up to 1600 times per second. Newer Bluetooth versions also feature Adaptive Frequency Hopping which attempts to detect existing signals in the ISM band, such as Wi-Fi channels, and avoid them by negotiating a channel map between the communicating Bluetooth devices."
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Thanks for the reply, but using a ps3 controller still produces the same issue, need to find the best channel to reduce interference.
What hat rom are you using though, maybe the way the driver in the rom I use ... isn't helping with adaptive tech
Im on CM10, worth trying it out
Had the same problems while testing with a Magic Trackpad and a bluetooth keyboard.
I can easily pair with a bluetooth keyboard and a bluetooth mouse at the same time.
Completely stock 2.31, locked and unrooted.
At the same time you use MHL and Wifi?
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At the same time you use MHL and Wifi?
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Let me think. What I can confirm to be working for me is:
1) mhl + wifi
2) bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
What I haven't tried yet is:
3) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse
4) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
Isn't it the same for you?
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Let me think. What I can confirm to be working for me is:
1) mhl + wifi
2) bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
What I haven't tried yet is:
3) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse
4) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
Isn't it the same for you?
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Just to confirm that everything works as expected, even number 3 and 4. A perfect docking station! :good:
One thought, though: MHL just mirrors the phone's screen to the monitor/TV, so the resulting resolution is actually an upscaled 960x540. Do you think it would be possible to somehow "force" the phone to render images at 1080p (or even 720p)? So that the image would exceed the phone's screen edges but on the external monitor we'd have native HD resolution!
Hey everyone! Back home, I use Touchpad from Nullar (works fantastically) to control my PC and media players when I'm in bed or on my couch. However, I am now at school, and I cannot use WiFi in my room; I can't use Touchpad anymore. Has anyone attempted PC HID control via bluetooth or USB? I tried searching with several different keywords, but I was unsuccessful.
I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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I don't think anybody has managed direct control over the USB connection yet, although we can manipulate it into a few known and pre-installed states (HID not being one of them, sorry). Bluetooth may be possible; we do have at least some access to the BT stack, although since it doesn't support HID natively either it would be quite a hack to get that working.
Are you disallowed WiFi for some reason, or do you just not have a WiFi network set up (and wow, are there really schools that still don't have WiFi in the dorms??)? A WiFi router is pretty cheap these days. Alternatively, it's possible to configure a PC's WiFi adapter to act like a WiFi access point, allowing the phoen to connect to it. I don't know for sure if Touchpad would work over that, but probably.
In theory, Touchpad should be possible over the Internet, though you'd need to open the firewall ports (whcih, depending on your school's network, might not be possible). Ot would lag, too.
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Touchpad over WiFi/internet already works. We do have WiFi in the dorms, but the routers are in the lounges (no signal in my room). The rooms have ethernet ports, which is what I use, however we aren't allowed to use a router/hotspot in our rooms because of throttling issues.
Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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Making your PC use the built-in WiFi interface as an access point is probably your best bet. Obviously, lock the network down so it's not going to have other people connecting and getting you in trouble. Do a little searching and you should find the software that does this (there are a few different ones). It was actually supposed to be a Win7 feature, but at the end it shipped half-finished. A few other developers finished it up for Microsoft.
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I tried doing this with my friend's laptop (I'll buy a dongle if this works), however my phone (SparkW) doesn't see the network, and when I type in the name manually it doesn't connect. The network was visible to another laptop though.
Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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Did you make it appear as an access point ("Infrastructure" network), or merely cause the PC to create its own peer-to-peer ("ad-hoc") network? WP7 doesn't support that latter kind, but will happily connect to the former. Also, what software did you use? If it was anything that came with Windows, or with any Windows PC, it was almost certainly ad-hoc.
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It was ad-hoc with the built in services. I'll try out connectify this weekend and post my results here.
So I am looking for ways to improve the streaming from my wifi router to SHIELD. Is there a way to set up a direct router -> shield connection, bypassing the internet, like an ad-hoc network? Failing that, would it help to open any ports on the router for port forwarding? My current issue is I can play Deadpool and castle crashers through Steam big screen mode fine, until after a few minutes there is worse and worse controller lag. Seems to happen in other games as well. Video lag actually seems not to be the problem, although it could be related. I feel like maybe there is some setting in my router that is affecting performance
Here is my setup:
win 7 pro x64
nvidia GTX Titan
wired ethernet PC<->wifi router
dual band asus RT-N66 "dark knight" router running both 2.5 and 5 ghz bands on N only
So it's not a performance issue, and basic streaming works, but the controller lag makes some games unplayable. I have tried changing wifi channels. doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Or is it mainly that these games aren't officially supported? much appreciated!
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So I am looking for ways to improve the streaming from my wifi router to SHIELD. Is there a way to set up a direct router -> shield connection, bypassing the internet, like an ad-hoc network? Failing that, would it help to open any ports on the router for port forwarding? My current issue is I can play Deadpool and castle crashers through Steam big screen mode fine, until after a few minutes there is worse and worse controller lag. Seems to happen in other games as well. Video lag actually seems not to be the problem, although it could be related. I feel like maybe there is some setting in my router that is affecting performance
Here is my setup:
win 7 pro x64
nvidia GTX Titan
wired ethernet PC<->wifi router
dual band asus RT-N66 "dark knight" router running both 2.5 and 5 ghz bands on N only
So it's not a performance issue, and basic streaming works, but the controller lag makes some games unplayable. I have tried changing wifi channels. doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Or is it mainly that these games aren't officially supported? much appreciated!
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The streaming is already direct Shield > Router > Pc, no internet involvement as you mention, only wifi and an ethernet cable. Direct Shield to PC may be possible though in theory.
You can also connect a micro USB otg adaptor to the shield and connect a USB ethernet adaptor to that if you wish to plug into the wireless router via ethernet instead. But that probably wont change anything.
I see that our phones have WiFi direct. I believe the Shield Controller connects to things with WiFi direct. I don't have a Shield controller to test, but was curious if the Shield Controller could connect to the S6.