MHL destroys any real desktop functionality - HTC One S

Was trying to run a mhl setup with my tv, basically mhl forces me to use a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse, and controller(no open usb port). The problem would be that Bluetooth interferes with my wireless N network since they all run at the same frequency....so I have wifi with a 100kbps connection at the cost of pairing any Bluetooth devices...they should have at least added 5ghz frequency to avoid extreme interference...This is a horrible setup to run OnLive since it requires 3mbps connection, or most web based apps

A connected bluetooth headset doesn't seem to affect wifi speeds for me, but then again you are using 3 bluetooth devices at the same time. You could try another wifi channel or maybe trying just one of your bluetooth devices at a time to see if one of them is misbehaving?
This is from Wikipedia on how bluetooth is supposed to avoid unnecessary interference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
" Bluetooth devices intended for use in short-range personal area networks operate from 2.4 to 2.4835 GHz. To reduce interference with other protocols that use the 2.45 GHz band, the Bluetooth protocol divides the band into 79 channels (each 1 MHz wide) and changes channels up to 1600 times per second. Newer Bluetooth versions also feature Adaptive Frequency Hopping which attempts to detect existing signals in the ISM band, such as Wi-Fi channels, and avoid them by negotiating a channel map between the communicating Bluetooth devices."

frdd said:
A connected bluetooth headset doesn't seem to affect wifi speeds for me, but then again you are using 3 bluetooth devices at the same time. You could try another wifi channel or maybe trying just one of your bluetooth devices at a time to see if one of them is misbehaving?
This is from Wikipedia on how bluetooth is supposed to avoid unnecessary interference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
" Bluetooth devices intended for use in short-range personal area networks operate from 2.4 to 2.4835 GHz. To reduce interference with other protocols that use the 2.45 GHz band, the Bluetooth protocol divides the band into 79 channels (each 1 MHz wide) and changes channels up to 1600 times per second. Newer Bluetooth versions also feature Adaptive Frequency Hopping which attempts to detect existing signals in the ISM band, such as Wi-Fi channels, and avoid them by negotiating a channel map between the communicating Bluetooth devices."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply, but using a ps3 controller still produces the same issue, need to find the best channel to reduce interference.

What hat rom are you using though, maybe the way the driver in the rom I use ... isn't helping with adaptive tech

Im on CM10, worth trying it out

Had the same problems while testing with a Magic Trackpad and a bluetooth keyboard.

I can easily pair with a bluetooth keyboard and a bluetooth mouse at the same time.
Completely stock 2.31, locked and unrooted.

At the same time you use MHL and Wifi?

de_annere said:
At the same time you use MHL and Wifi?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me think. What I can confirm to be working for me is:
1) mhl + wifi
2) bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
What I haven't tried yet is:
3) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse
4) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
Isn't it the same for you?

nor-ric said:
Let me think. What I can confirm to be working for me is:
1) mhl + wifi
2) bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
What I haven't tried yet is:
3) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse
4) mhl + bluetooth keyboard and mouse + wifi
Isn't it the same for you?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Up...
Just to confirm that everything works as expected, even number 3 and 4. A perfect docking station! :good:
One thought, though: MHL just mirrors the phone's screen to the monitor/TV, so the resulting resolution is actually an upscaled 960x540. Do you think it would be possible to somehow "force" the phone to render images at 1080p (or even 720p)? So that the image would exceed the phone's screen edges but on the external monitor we'd have native HD resolution!

Related

WI-FI versus BLUETOOTH

I have just setup a wireless network in my home. Compared to bluetooth it is absolutley brilliant, I have fast internet on my laptop downstairs, wifi card in ipaq working great and it was a doddle to install, whereas bluetooth presents nightmares to configure, wont work with lots of devices, is short range and very slow. For anybody who is in 2 minds I would suggest wireless is the best by far in all ways.
Hi,
Apologies if I misunderstood you, but I think you missed the point of Bluetooth/WiFi. They really are completely different technologies.
Bluetooth is designed to be short range and lower power and to be able to communicate a multitude of devices wirelessly (i.e. keyboards, mice, GPS, headsets as well as forming mini networks). It's also not really designed to be "high speed" as in the same sort of levels of WiFi.
WiFi on the other hand is ONLY for networking and compared to Bluetooth it IS much faster as you've realised and it is designed for bigger distances, but the power drain is also considerably more as well.
That's why your device has both technologies, so that you can choose which method suits you best. Personally I use the WiFi for networking, but the Bluetooth for talking to my GPS and Handsfree. I've ran a Bluetooth network before and found them quite stable (driver/firmware versions will assist here) and they're okay in an emergency, but they're really not that speedy at all.
So wifi is limited in its capabilities? So no chance of wireless gps or wireless headsets for phones?
I wouldn't say it's limited. Wireless Fidelity is wireless networking. That's what it was designed for and that's what it does.
You do get network webcams as well as network printers etc which could directly or indirectly take advantage of WiFi, but that's about as diverse as I think it goes and even then it's not really WiFi doing the work. The devices themselves have built in network cards.
Technically you could have a headset with a built in network card/wireless tranceiver, but I think since they can already do that with Bluetooth in very small sizes/low power/low cost... I can't see a WiFi implementation happening anytime soon, if ever. More likely it'll skip WiFi and that sort of thing will go in whatever wireless technology comes out next.
But aside from possibly a headset with longer range and faster networking, what else would you want to use with a range more than 10m or needs faster speeds?
I suspect mobile phones will start including 100m Bluetooth when they work out how to get the power down, but I don't believe that'll increase the speeds. But hey I didn't write/design the spec, so who knows?
I was also quite surprised and pleased by the simplicity of setting the wireless network, on the desktop I took about 1 minute, no added software, just a couple of clicks and a reboot, on the laptop I installed the software, plugged in the card and it immediately found the network and asked me politely if I would like to use it, brilliant implementation of a superb system. I also saw an advert for a long distance network connection, 3 miles I think, that would be a cheap way of all your family using a single high speed broadband connection in the same town.
The answer is simple:
Can you use high speed WIFI for more than 3 hours with any PPC with standard battery? BT does that well.
You should compensate the high speed of connection and simplicity in configuration (not very sure about this) to the longer usage time.

[Q] Wireless LAN Problem on 2,4 GHz

I've found a quite strange problem with my wireless lan Connection on my one x.
I'm using a dual band wireless lan Access Points with two separate ssids. SSID1 is a WPA2 protected 2,4ghz Network, SSID2 is a WPA2 protected 5ghz Network.
I connected my one x to ssid1, that worked for a few months, now connecting to that 2,4ghz Network Fails (one x tries to connect every few seconds, but it fails). Connection to SSID2 on 5ghz works without any problem.
I used android revolution, but flashed 1.29 RUU and updated to 2.17 ota, it didnt change anything. CID is 169.
Are there known Hardware Problems which cause 2,4ghz to fail or is there any setting which could cause this.
I've also seen that the three sensor keys on the bottom of the device do no longer work, no reaction and not even Background light for these 3 keys.
Any idea how i could reactivate the 2,4ghz WLAN? I don't care about the sensor keys because i don't use that one x as mobile phone, it is just a nice remote control for my xbmc mediacenter and that works over WLan.

[Q] Tips for improving shield wifi streaming, including router settings?

So I am looking for ways to improve the streaming from my wifi router to SHIELD. Is there a way to set up a direct router -> shield connection, bypassing the internet, like an ad-hoc network? Failing that, would it help to open any ports on the router for port forwarding? My current issue is I can play Deadpool and castle crashers through Steam big screen mode fine, until after a few minutes there is worse and worse controller lag. Seems to happen in other games as well. Video lag actually seems not to be the problem, although it could be related. I feel like maybe there is some setting in my router that is affecting performance
Here is my setup:
win 7 pro x64
nvidia GTX Titan
wired ethernet PC<->wifi router
dual band asus RT-N66 "dark knight" router running both 2.5 and 5 ghz bands on N only
So it's not a performance issue, and basic streaming works, but the controller lag makes some games unplayable. I have tried changing wifi channels. doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Or is it mainly that these games aren't officially supported? much appreciated!
Fstopdigital said:
So I am looking for ways to improve the streaming from my wifi router to SHIELD. Is there a way to set up a direct router -> shield connection, bypassing the internet, like an ad-hoc network? Failing that, would it help to open any ports on the router for port forwarding? My current issue is I can play Deadpool and castle crashers through Steam big screen mode fine, until after a few minutes there is worse and worse controller lag. Seems to happen in other games as well. Video lag actually seems not to be the problem, although it could be related. I feel like maybe there is some setting in my router that is affecting performance
Here is my setup:
win 7 pro x64
nvidia GTX Titan
wired ethernet PC<->wifi router
dual band asus RT-N66 "dark knight" router running both 2.5 and 5 ghz bands on N only
So it's not a performance issue, and basic streaming works, but the controller lag makes some games unplayable. I have tried changing wifi channels. doesn't seem to help. Any ideas? Or is it mainly that these games aren't officially supported? much appreciated!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The streaming is already direct Shield > Router > Pc, no internet involvement as you mention, only wifi and an ethernet cable. Direct Shield to PC may be possible though in theory.
You can also connect a micro USB otg adaptor to the shield and connect a USB ethernet adaptor to that if you wish to plug into the wireless router via ethernet instead. But that probably wont change anything.

nvidia shled game stream on mac pro in bootcamp stuttery.

Hello recently bought a 2008 mac pro and installed windows bootcamp onto it so that I can switch between windows 7 and osx mavericks whenever I want. I installed a PC GTX 680 into it which works like a dream.
I installed Geforce experience and optimized all my games.
When I go into the compatability list it says I have all the pre requisites to stream a game.
I the turn on the shield, it recognises all my games and when I choose one it loads on my PC straight away.
Unfortunatly as soon as game starts it's a stuttery mess and usually shuts down saying "cannot connect to PC"
Very odd. Went into my windows firewall settings but all nvidia game streaming stuff is ticked.
Currently here are my specs
Mac pro 2008 3.1 eight core xeon 2.8ghz cpu
KFA2 GTX 680 2gb DDR5 gpu Nvidia Driver 337.50
10GB DDR2 memory
SKY HUB router (new white one) model Wireless N
Nvidia Shield fully updated.
Not sure where problem is...
I'm having the same issues with my PC and a GTX770.
It's the connection.
I plugged a wifi stick in, set it up as ad-hoc, enabled the gaming/multimedia environment driver flag, disabled powersaving and now it's all fine.
nex86 said:
I'm having the same issues with my PC and a GTX770.
It's the connection.
I plugged a wifi stick in, set it up as ad-hoc, enabled the gaming/multimedia environment driver flag, disabled powersaving and now it's all fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Blimey sounds elaborate. I have disabled power saving in windows already in the power plan settings. how do you enable the gaming/multimedia environment driver flag?
go into the device manager, choose your wifi adapter -> properties, the flags should be there in the advance tab but it depends on your driver.
nex86 said:
go into the device manager, choose your wifi adapter -> properties, the flags should be there in the advance tab but it depends on your driver.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah I see. Assuming it's under network adapters there is a driver but no option for multimedia/gaming to be enabled which is a shame. Might have look into wifi dongles then (
Ok so I disabled the wireless airport mini card via control panel/network connections
I then plugged in the TP-Link USB wifi dongle. Connected to the internet (works fine).
I then started gamestream and tried to play several games. BORDERLANDS 2 and Max Payne 3. Both were stuttery messes that kept shutting down.
I then loaded up Skyrim and for some odd reason the graphic settings were all stupidly low but it seemed to run fine then?!
Very odd. Any ideas on what the problem is. I can stream my Vita onto PS4 via my router with no issues whatsoever but the shiled is a juddery, crashy mess.
I also have an Alienware M17X R3 with a 680M card installed. I tested it out on that and it seems much smoother. Doesn't shut down on start up and is reasonable. still slightly stuttery but not game breaking.
You need wireless G at the very minimum to stream games. It is similar to playing a LAN game over wireless and you get lag and your player skips around. It is the same concept streaming the game as you are actually playing on the PC but viewing the video feed and controlling it from the Shield. A butt load of data is going back and fourth. Really it would not hurt to have wireless N if you do not.
I have wireless N router and bot the dongle, airport extreme card and the netgear have wireless N.
N is fine, theyre backward compatible to both G and B.
u sure you updated both nvidia driver and GeForce Experience?
otherwise I can just think that there is another wifi network that is interrupting yours.
nex86 said:
N is fine, theyre backward compatible to both G and B.
u sure you updated both nvidia driver and GeForce Experience?
otherwise I can just think that there is another wifi network that is interrupting yours.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Was wondering the same thing so I attached an ethernet cable from the mac to the router to get as honest a signal as possible. It seemed to work a bit better, played max payne 3 for about 10 minutes before it started to stutter and crash again. Very odd, might be CPU or even the router but cannot tell at this moment in time.
My mac is about 2 1/2 metres away from the router with no walls between them s
Is there a way to directly stream from PC to shield without need to go through router to check?
Here's the router I'm using. It should be good enough!
http://m.shop.sky.com/mt/www.sky.co...-hub/?un_jtt_v_cookiecheck=on&un_jtt_redirect
Key Features: 802.11bgn 2.4GHz WiFi; Integrated DSL modem; 4x 10/100 Ethernet ports; WEP, WPA/WPA2 & WPS security
Manufacturer: Sky
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/sky-hub_Peripheral_review#vIZzLlhmBatWDgC5.99
Been looking into replacing it with the newer Sky hub SR102 router. Here are it's specs, seem pretty much the same except it's a little bit more ready for fibre optic broadband
Wireless:
• 2.4GHz 802.11n standard, backwards compatible with 802.11 b/g standards
• 2×2 MIMO with internal antennas, 144Mbps maximum data transmission rate
• Smart Signal Selection – automatically and dynamically selects optimum wireless channel
• Wi-Fi Alliance certified
Ok I bought an Asus DSL N66U which has dual band 2.4ghz and 5ghz signals. Its maximum is 450Mbps but it's still stuttery and poor signal. The nvidia shield cuts out after a little while. Am wondering where the problem is. It can't be the router!
Ok so this is a thing...
Theres an advanced settings option on the Nvidia Shield for gamestream settings. It can allow you to adjust the max FPS 60 or 30, and the bit rate. There are two options - one for wifi and the other for ethernet connections. I changed FPS to 30 and it's much smoother now.
If you have stutter issues it may help
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...onsole-mode-and-gamestream-advanced-settings/

Ethernet, LTE, WiFi Simultaneously

I am using an app called Speedify on my Galaxy S8+ which enabled me to use LTE Data and Wifi at the same time which bonds both connections together to get faster Data Downloads and Uploads. It also works with Ethernet but when I plug in Ethernet to the S8, it disconnects my Wifi. Is there anyways to keep Wifi and Ethernet at the same time?
Me too
cinnabarcorp said:
I am using an app called Speedify on my Galaxy S8+ which enabled me to use LTE Data and Wifi at the same time which bonds both connections together to get faster Data Downloads and Uploads. It also works with Ethernet but when I plug in Ethernet to the S8, it disconnects my Wifi. Is there anyways to keep Wifi and Ethernet at the same time?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have researched this isssue but found no solution. In fact I created a new thread on this yesterday. I’m not trying to use LTE but I’m trying to use WiFi and Ethernet (over USB) and have found that the WiFi connection is taken down whenever I connect Ethernet. This is (or was) purposeful behavior in Android back in 2014. I found a post on StackExchange telling how to modify Java code (or *.smali file) to disable the preferred, default network behavior, however, the Java source code has so drastically changed since then (to Android 7) that I cannot see how to make the equivalent change today.

Categories

Resources