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I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.
What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.
I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.
If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.
*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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1) unfortunately telus.
2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.
3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...
Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.
Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.
Again, tread lightly on this path.
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.
As to my actual question and as to one stated answer
"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"
If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.
Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)
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"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
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lawmakers disagree
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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forum admins disagree
"lawmakers disagree"
I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.
As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.
Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380172
Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.
I've accidentally done this on my galaxy once. Basically a rom flash corrupted the imei and i had to restore from a backup. NV backup and restore I believe its called.
Basically I want to recreate this on a One X, but it has to be reversible.
Anyone have an idea how to do this?
I am NOT attempting to flash or otherwise alter the imei, that's illegal over here. And I'm pretty sure it cant be done on these new phones either. So its completely irrelevant. I want to backup, corrupt and the restore the phones OWN imei.
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I've accidentally done this on my galaxy once. Basically a rom flash corrupted the imei and i had to restore from a backup. NV backup and restore I believe its called.
Basically I want to recreate this on a One X, but it has to be reversible.
Anyone have an idea how to do this?
I am NOT attempting to flash or otherwise alter the imei, that's illegal over here. And I'm pretty sure it cant be done on these new phones either. So its completely irrelevant. I want to backup, corrupt and the restore the phones OWN imei.
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Why so 'Genius'?
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ares93 said:
I've accidentally done this on my galaxy once. Basically a rom flash corrupted the imei and i had to restore from a backup. NV backup and restore I believe its called.
Basically I want to recreate this on a One X, but it has to be reversible.
Anyone have an idea how to do this?
I am NOT attempting to flash or otherwise alter the imei, that's illegal over here. And I'm pretty sure it cant be done on these new phones either. So its completely irrelevant. I want to backup, corrupt and the restore the phones OWN imei.
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what you need that for?v can't really understand... sorry but i don't know how to change the imei...
The phones has to stay unidentifiable for an extended period of time for various reasons. Basically, I'm hiding the identity of the phone among other identical ones. They wont be used during that time or even powered on. This will be done to four One X's. Call it an experiment.
I realize its a fine line I'm walking. But this is not against forum rules. I'm not changing anything, just backuping and restoring.
Is that similar to NV flash for the transformer sort of thing then? And accessed through some sort diagnostic mode for the tegra chipset (apx)?
Given wire tricks for snapdragons and what have you then you'd have thought that this might be the best hope for achieving s-off too wouldn't you? Stop me if I'm wrong but I've not heard of anyone being able to activate this mode for the one x yet.
Change imei you would need S-OFF then use Fastboot oem commands to change it
ares93 said:
The phones has to stay unidentifiable for an extended period of time for various reasons. Basically, I'm hiding the identity of the phone among other identical ones. They wont be used during that time or even powered on. This will be done to four One X's. Call it an experiment.
I realize its a fine line I'm walking. But this is not against forum rules. I'm not changing anything, just backuping and restoring.
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What reasons? Not been funny but it sounds to be for dodgy reasons.
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cjm1979 said:
What reasons? Not been funny but it sounds to be for dodgy reasons.
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Something with stolen phones maybe
Verstuurd van mijn HTC One X
None of the phones are stolen. As I have pointed out, i do not want to change the imei. A stolen (aka barred) phone would not suddenly start working again because you restored the imei that they barred in the first place. You need to change the imei for it to start working again, giving it back its original code does nothing aside from wasting you time.
However, one of them was used to send a so called "dead man's script" (roughly translated) to a computer in the possession of the Swedish police. Now, if they can't prove which phone it was they cant prove who did it. All they have is an imei and an unregistered sim card.
We could keep the phones away, just like we hide the CCTV footage they so desperately want, but its getting tiresome. Better to just let em find the phones and let them scratch their heads for a few weeks before they give up. Its just another dead end for them anyway. They'll never find the footage unless we want them too.
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None of the phones are stolen. As I have pointed out, i do not want to change the imei. A stolen (aka barred) phone would not suddenly start working again because you restored the imei that they barred in the first place. You need to change the imei for it to start working again, giving it back its original code does nothing aside from wasting you time.
However, one of them was used to send a so called "dead man's script" (roughly translated) to a computer in the possession of the Swedish police. Now, if they can't prove which phone it was they cant prove who did it. All they have is an imei and an unregistered sim card.
We could keep the phones away, just like we hide the CCTV footage they so desperately want, but its getting tiresome. Better to just let em find the phones and let them scratch their heads for a few weeks before they give up. Its just another dead end for them anyway. They'll never find the footage unless we want them too.
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Dead man's script? the plot thickens lol!!!!! :silly:
Sorry, whilst the rest of the thread may not be suspicious, this post certainly is!!!!
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Dead man's script? the plot thickens lol!!!!! :silly:
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LOL !!!
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exocetdj said:
Dead man's script? the plot thickens lol!!!!! :silly:
Sorry, whilst the rest of the thread may not be suspicious, this post certainly is!!!!
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A dead man's script is a direct translation, its probably called something else in English. Basically its remote access corruption software. Its disrupts a computer system and destroys information on the drives. In conjunction with encryption, it makes it pretty much impossible to recover anything from a computer. Its not illegal to use since the computer is private property, it is however considered tampering with evidence and/or obstruction of justice since the targeted computer is in the possession of the police. Which is funny because I filled the drives with hello kitty videos before they confiscated it.
I have CCTV footage of a couple of coppers literally beating the **** out of a bloke. They want that footage to go away. Frankly this entire matter has been settled, the hard drive with the footage is currently in the UK, well outside their jurisdiction. I just enjoy taunting them.
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A dead man's script is a direct translation, its probably called something else in English. Basically its remote access corruption software. Its disrupts a computer system and destroys information on the drives. In conjunction with encryption, it makes it pretty much impossible to recover anything from a computer. Its not illegal to use since the computer is private property, it is however considered tampering with evidence and/or obstruction of justice since the targeted computer is in the possession of the police. Which is funny because I filled the drives with hello kitty videos before they confiscated it.
I have CCTV footage of a couple of coppers literally beating the **** out of a bloke. They want that footage to go away. Frankly this entire matter has been settled, the hard drive with the footage is currently in the UK, well outside their jurisdiction. I just enjoy taunting them.
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Oh right, fair enough, whilst most peeps on here dont stand for anything illegal, its even worse when police are up to this sort of sh#t! Thats pretty heavy stuff man! Fair play on this! :good:
Hello kitty vids a good touch too ha ha!!!!
So you want us to help you tamper with evidence? That sounds more illegal than changing your imei...
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Changing the imei is illegal in most contries so therefore it's against the Xda rules
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Sounds like you need a portable emp device. Always wanted a portable emp device and brainwave disruptor.
A way to send a targetted ota similar to how cableco updates modem might work if you had that sort of information. Most of the info you need wont be found here.
Most of the changing imei info ive found in past was for non-smartphones.
How many times must I say so. I do NOT, NOT and NOT want to change the imei. I want to corrupt it and then be able to restore it. The original Imei, not another one. Another imei would serve no purpose since the phones are completely legal. I've performed imei changes before, and it not the same thing.
As for imei changes on smartphones, its possible if you know how. But that is beside the point since its agaisnt the FR here on xda. Please do not get into this, I already have a mod breathing down my neck.
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Please do not get into this, I already have a mod breathing down my neck.
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And I wonder why...
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How many times must I say so. I do NOT, NOT and NOT want to change the imei. I want to corrupt it and then be able to restore it. The original Imei, not another one. Another imei would serve no purpose since the phones are completely legal. I've performed imei changes before, and it not the same thing.
As for imei changes on smartphones, its possible if you know how. But that is beside the point since its agaisnt the FR here on xda. Please do not get into this, I already have a mod breathing down my neck.
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Corrupting it is changing it, so therefore it's illegal
I will say if one did some research or just got nosey with a hex editor you could learn more about the device
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He wants to do this for learning purposes. Basically learning how to fix corrupt imei by messing it up then repair it. Thats what i gathered from his posts. I'm not even sure he has the evita anyways though.
Greetings everyone,
I have an issue i have been trying to combat for a full week now, so i am now based on your expertise to resolve my situation. I have a friend who has bought a fake lenovo clone with the model code S850c. Because the firmware it shipped with was fulled to the brim with bloatware and popups, he asked me to flash another ROM using SP Flash tool. Since it is not a legit model, i only found a couple of ROMS which actually worked.
In between firmware flashes, i had to do a "Format all and flash", which also resulted in the IMEI numbers originally binded with the phone to be deleted. However, I am not able to restore them, because i ommited writing them down before flashing the phone. As a result, the phone recongnises the SIM card but is unable to register to any network. Naturally, i went into engineering mode and punched in the 2 IMEI numbers located under the battery(it is dual SIM), but they must be invalid, since the phone will still not register and imei.info cannot recongnise them.
As a last resort, i also tried to input IMEI numbers from old working phones i have in my drawer, but i still experience the same behaviour. Is there any way to find the original IMEI numbers again or i am doomed? Also, with known working IMEI failed to work?
Only ways xda will advise is to restore a backup that should have been made or to return it to the oem.
Messing with the imei in anyway is illegal in most countries so the above is the only ways xda allows to be talked about.
Thanks for the tip, but I can provide proof that my statements are true and the devices are not stolen, if that is required. I am by no means a thief, i just want to correct a mistake i made in the first place.
In addition, what i asked is about another way to retrieve the IMEI that ORIGINALLY came with the device in order to restore it, without having a backup beforehand. As i mentioned before, the ones under the battery are NOT blacklisted, they are simply fake ones.
With that said, i understand and respect XDA's rules and policies.
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Thanks for the tip, but I can provide proof that my statements are true and the devices are not stolen, if that is required. I am by no means a thief, i just want to correct a mistake i made in the first place.
In addition, what i asked is about another way to retrieve the IMEI that ORIGINALLY came with the device in order to restore it, without having a backup beforehand. As i mentioned before, the ones under the battery are NOT blacklisted, they are simply fake ones.
With that said, i understand and respect XDA's rules and policies.
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I am sure you can. That wasn't a question really. The biggest issue is that any of the tools that might even help you are illegal so you understand the hard place xda is in. Your issue will be most likely the fact that it is a knock off which will mean that it doesn't have a valid imei to begin with. See if you can track down a stock OS for it in another site. (you won't find one here) and see if flashing it will bring it back. Other then that I would send it back and get it replaced but to be honest, with clones you are best off not touching them.
ok i see, thank you so much for your help! I hope i did not sound agressive in my reply, but i was really desperate for a solution
Best regards!
Hey there,
A friend of mine purchased SG A52 4G from a dishonest re-seller who, by an odd quirk of fate, failed to mention it had originally been bought from a telecom provider on hire purchase. As you may presume the original buyer is not likely to pay the installments and as such my pal runs the risk of the deviced being blocked on a per-IMEI basis.
Do you by any chance know if there's any way around it and if so how to go about it? Should installing a custom ROM before the device gets blocked do the trick?
Return it or pay it off.
First off you misread my thread as I'm not a buyer..
There's no way to return the device as the dishonest seller has disappeared into thin air. Well, thanks for the very sage advice of paying it off. I'm ever so sure that if you bought a device and had already paid and it cost you a pretty penny then you would be willing to pay someone else's installments and pay for it twice. That helps! Thanks.
Altering the imei is illegal.
You'll get no help here to do that.
No sarcastic thanks needed... this was your own doing. Those are your two options.
Altering the imei or installing custom roms that render your warranty invalid are illegal yet there so many threads in this community describing the processes in detail . Hence the sarcastic thanks - apologies if I offended anyone - I didn't mean to do so.
And just for context and for the record - the phone was bought by a not-so-tech-savvy and gullible person but I'll just explain to her she can basically throw the device away and come to terms with losing something in the order of 200 quid.
Custom roms aren't illegal, they aren't supported by some manufacturers
IMEI change and legality, mods please read
Good afternoon mods, I'm sorry but I had to open a thread about this topic again. It's absolutely not illegal to change your IMEI in most of the world. For instance, it's completely legal in the entirety of the US (see...
forum.xda-developers.com
The device COULD be blocked. Doesn't mean that it WILL be blocked. You can't change IMEI, it is not legal to do so. If the phone does get locked, tell your friend to go to the telecom shop and tell them exactly what happened! That would be the best solution.
Good afternoon, I've had the fortune of someone stealing my phone at an internet cafe. They did the whole hard reset (I think) because it's not coming up on Where's my device?, I was wondering is there any software out there that can track the IMEI number because I'm pretty sure the individual that took it knows enough to pull the SIM card out and reformat the phone but not enough that the IMEI number can be traced or am I SOL?
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Thanks, just for future reference is there some kind of rom that I could hide in the phone that can track it? Kinda like an added level of security outside of my Google account?
You're welcome.
Unless your in a secure area the phone should never leave your hands except when in your pocket. Never set it down.
Don't "flash" the phone around strangers unless absolutely necessary... keep a low profile with it.
Always be aware of your surroundings and of the people.
Robbers tend to look for easy targets, don't be easy.
Any particular reason I need to do surveys on that second link?
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Good afternoon, I've had the fortune of someone stealing my phone at an internet cafe. They did the whole hard reset (I think) because it's not coming up on Where's my device?, I was wondering is there any software out there that can track the IMEI number because I'm pretty sure the individual that took it knows enough to pull the SIM card out and reformat the phone but not enough that the IMEI number can be traced or am I SOL?
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Hi. Did you later find your phone? Same thing happened to me. I want to recover it.
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Hi. Did you later find your phone? Same thing happened to me. I want to recover it.
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Nope I gave up, if there's anyway I could get my hands on some IMEI tracking software I would've given it some more effort, good luck...cops don't seem to care.