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Dualing phones

I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.
What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.
I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.
If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.
*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.

Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?

THE-COPS said:
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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1) unfortunately telus.
2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.
3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...

Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.
Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.
Again, tread lightly on this path.

"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.
As to my actual question and as to one stated answer
"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"
If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.
Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)

slight22 said:
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here

defaultdotxbe said:
its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.

slight22 said:
Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
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lawmakers disagree
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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forum admins disagree

"lawmakers disagree"
I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.
As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.

Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380172
Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.

Need help wiping my phone. Secure wipe.

I need to make any information on the device unrecoverable. I need to return my S3 to the store and want no personal or professional information left on it, or recoverable from it.
Is there any way to do this?
Thanks

ancashion said:
I need to make any information on the device unrecoverable. I need to return my S3 to the store and want no personal or professional information left on it, or recoverable from it.
Is there any way to do this?
Thanks
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Go to settings- backup and reset- then click the factory data reset box.

Thank you for your reply. I understood that a factory reset left data stored on the device. Data which is recoverable if someone decided to look hard enough.
Much like a format of a sdcard. You can still recover information from the sdcard, even though the file folder says it's empty.
On a side note, I wonder if encrypting the device first with the built in app and then wiping it would make the data that much harder.
I really don't have anything I need to hide, I'm just a paranoid soul.

Your paranoia greatly exceeds the amount of effort VZW would go through to get any data off of a returned phone. All they're going to do is wipe it again (possibly wiping the efs partition as well, depending on the conditions of the return and their internal requirements) and ship it off to someone else who will care even less about what was on it before than VZW does.

AlexDeGruven said:
Your paranoia greatly exceeds the amount of effort VZW would go through to get any data off of a returned phone. All they're going to do is wipe it again (possibly wiping the efs partition as well, depending on the conditions of the return and their internal requirements) and ship it off to someone else who will care even less about what was on it before than VZW does.
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How you feel about it is irrelevant. Do not project your thoughts onto my desires. I wish to wipe my phone so no data is recoverable however paranoid it makes me seem. It is my desire to do so.

ancashion said:
How you feel about it is irrelevant. Do not project your thoughts onto my desires. I wish to wipe my phone so no data is recoverable however paranoid it makes me seem. It is my desire to do so.
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I wasn't projecting anything. I was simply stating truth. I understand you're paranoid about it, just that your paranoia exceeds the effort anyone would go through.
Whether or not it's possible (something I DIDN'T comment on) is different than whether or not it's necessary from a personal security standpoint (something that's a matter of opinion) and is different than whether or not it's likely to happen based upon effort required (something I DID comment on).

ancashion said:
Thank you for your reply. I understood that a factory reset left data stored on the device. Data which is recoverable if someone decided to look hard enough.
Much like a format of a sdcard. You can still recover information from the sdcard, even though the file folder says it's empty.
On a side note, I wonder if encrypting the device first with the built in app and then wiping it would make the data that much harder.
I really don't have anything I need to hide, I'm just a paranoid soul.
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The other option you have is to re install the stock firmware through odin. Just check off the boxes within odin that will delete and wipe everything. Lastly, hold vol up, home, and power, go into the recovery mode and wipe all data and cache. This is about as thorough as it gets.

Wow. Very rude. Guy helps you and then you comment like this.
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yeah no kidding. its almost as if he is trying to hide something or his wife is a tech .

AlexDeGruven said:
I wasn't projecting anything. I was simply stating truth. I understand you're paranoid about it, just that your paranoia exceeds the effort anyone would go through.
Whether or not it's possible (something I DIDN'T comment on) is different than whether or not it's necessary from a personal security standpoint (something that's a matter of opinion) and is different than whether or not it's likely to happen based upon effort required (something I DID comment on).
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There is no way to completely do so. Any method will result in data being recoverable, albeit expensive and time consuming to do so.

chamberc said:
There is no way to completely do so. Any method will result in data being recoverable, albeit expensive and time consuming to do so.
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Writing zeroes to every bit of the /data partition, and then a pass with 1s will completely obliterate any possibility of recovering anything.
Even without doing so, the effort in doing so is exponentially higher than the value of the data unless OP is a covert CIA agent dealing with the Iranian nuclear problem.
Anything that 99.9999999999999999999999% of the cellphone using public has isn't going to be worth more than a few bucks to anyone, and the cost of recovering data from flash memory even after a simple repartition is more than most will obtain.

AlexDeGruven said:
Writing zeroes to every bit of the /data partition, and then a pass with 1s will completely obliterate any possibility of recovering anything.
Even without doing so, the effort in doing so is exponentially higher than the value of the data unless OP is a covert CIA agent dealing with the Iranian nuclear problem.
Anything that 99.9999999999999999999999% of the cellphone using public has isn't going to be worth more than a few bucks to anyone, and the cost of recovering data from flash memory even after a simple repartition is more than most will obtain.
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Agreed. However for someone so paranoid, I don't think it was wise to mention both the CIA and Iran in the same sentence as that probably might have raised some flags somewhere. Oops..and now I've done it again.

AlexDeGruven said:
Writing zeroes to every bit of the /data partition, and then a pass with 1s will completely obliterate any possibility of recovering anything.
Even without doing so, the effort in doing so is exponentially higher than the value of the data unless OP is a covert CIA agent dealing with the Iranian nuclear problem.
Anything that 99.9999999999999999999999% of the cellphone using public has isn't going to be worth more than a few bucks to anyone, and the cost of recovering data from flash memory even after a simple repartition is more than most will obtain.
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Incorrect. It is still recoverable.

chamberc said:
Incorrect. It is still recoverable.
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Show me where data has been recovered from flash media after 2 passes.
Hell, show me where data has been recovered from flash media after just one pass.

My wife isn't a tech and I'm not hiding CIA secrets. I'm just a private person. I don't know why.
I keep a boot and nuke dvd next to my computer at all times. I take it with me on trips.
I also keep a survival kit with me at nearly all times. My jeep is basically a mobile survival kit.
Again, just a private person. I've been starting a lot of **** with Verizon lately and I have to take my phone back to them as they've deemed it DOA. I have an "in person" meeting with a manager at my local (1.5 hour drive) VZW store tomorrow.
Here's a bit of back story- Took my phone in for "in person diagnosis" since VZW tech support over the phone could do nothing over the last two weeks besides issue me new SIM cards. While I'm in there, dude ****s up my phone, refunds my money for my phone, says he's (VZW store) taken possession of said phone and supposedly gave me another one. VZW over the phone verified I am on my original phone via MEID but VZW store front wants to meet in person and view the phone directly. Meanwhile, the phone he said I was issued is missing from the stores inventory. Nobody knows where it is. To make matters worse, when they tried to contact the rep that helped me in person, he had been in a car wreck and is apparently in the hospital. I don't know if it's true or not, but, **** seems fishy about all this and I don't want to take chances. I don't keep much information on my device per-say, but it is in my email, as well as other "cloud based storage" areas. This information is sensitive to me and I don't want joe schmo getting their hands on it.
I plan on wiping the phone, but, if there was a secure way of doing it so none of my information was recoverable, by anybody at any time I would love to do it.
Alex, my apologies if you felt my comment to you was rude, but, straight up- that's how I feel. I didn't ask for peoples opinions of doing it, I asked for a "how-to." I feel like I should do it. I feel I need to cover my ass here. With everything going on, yea, my paranoia meter is off the charts. It goes back to my blackberry storm days. I received a new device from insurance. Installed Pandora and viola- all the last owners playlists popped up. Sure, it may be little information but I didn't even try. This was from a bb as well- supposedly one of the stronger secured devices of the time.
I'm considering encrypting the device via it's onboard software, then wiping it. Maybe? Not really my area here.. (provided I have one..)

OK the guy that helped you is a scumbag. tell the manager how you feel about your personal info but don't sound suspicious it may raise red flags but that tech was trying to scam the system and get a free device.IMHO it does sound fishy bit most likely just a gig trying to scam a phone and is not after your personal info. get your new device and be on your merry way. and prepared isn't paranoid.

Good paper on sanitizing flash memory.
http://static.usenix.org/events/fast11/tech/full_papers/Wei.pdf

bigmook said:
OK the guy that helped you is a scumbag. tell the manager how you feel about your personal info but don't sound suspicious it may raise red flags but that tech was trying to scam the system and get a free device.IMHO it does sound fishy bit most likely just a gig trying to scam a phone and is not after your personal info. get your new device and be on your merry way. and prepared isn't paranoid.
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I agree prepared isn't paranoid but damned if that ain't what everyone calls me.
No, they aren't after my information, I'm sure of that. Every time I call Verizon's tech support they ask me if I will allow this device to be troubleshot "remotely." They *could* get whatever they wanted already.
I just don't feel comfortable doing it is all.
That Rep was an asshole. I saw the signs- just didn't put it together. His hands were trembling, he kept looking around for people behind him who could see his screen, he was quiet, really concentrating on the computer.. it was all there. Next time.

henrys01 said:
Good paper on sanitizing flash memory.
http://static.usenix.org/events/fast11/tech/full_papers/Wei.pdf
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Thanks for the link man but after the first couple paragraphs I realized I was in over my head.

ancashion said:
My wife isn't a tech and I'm not hiding CIA secrets. I'm just a private person. I don't know why.
I keep a boot and nuke dvd next to my computer at all times. I take it with me on trips.
I also keep a survival kit with me at nearly all times. My jeep is basically a mobile survival kit.
Again, just a private person. I've been starting a lot of **** with Verizon lately and I have to take my phone back to them as they've deemed it DOA. I have an "in person" meeting with a manager at my local (1.5 hour drive) VZW store tomorrow.
Here's a bit of back story- Took my phone in for "in person diagnosis" since VZW tech support over the phone could do nothing over the last two weeks besides issue me new SIM cards. While I'm in there, dude ****s up my phone, refunds my money for my phone, says he's (VZW store) taken possession of said phone and supposedly gave me another one. VZW over the phone verified I am on my original phone via MEID but VZW store front wants to meet in person and view the phone directly. Meanwhile, the phone he said I was issued is missing from the stores inventory. Nobody knows where it is. To make matters worse, when they tried to contact the rep that helped me in person, he had been in a car wreck and is apparently in the hospital. I don't know if it's true or not, but, **** seems fishy about all this and I don't want to take chances. I don't keep much information on my device per-say, but it is in my email, as well as other "cloud based storage" areas. This information is sensitive to me and I don't want joe schmo getting their hands on it.
I plan on wiping the phone, but, if there was a secure way of doing it so none of my information was recoverable, by anybody at any time I would love to do it.
Alex, my apologies if you felt my comment to you was rude, but, straight up- that's how I feel. I didn't ask for peoples opinions of doing it, I asked for a "how-to." I feel like I should do it. I feel I need to cover my ass here. With everything going on, yea, my paranoia meter is off the charts. It goes back to my blackberry storm days. I received a new device from insurance. Installed Pandora and viola- all the last owners playlists popped up. Sure, it may be little information but I didn't even try. This was from a bb as well- supposedly one of the stronger secured devices of the time.
I'm considering encrypting the device via it's onboard software, then wiping it. Maybe? Not really my area here.. (provided I have one..)
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I'd suggest that if you feel that strongly about securing your data you're going to need to go beyond just asking some folks on a forum before you really feel safe considering the steps you've taken otherwise. It is time to do some reading.
Of course you're entitled to do whatever it is you want with your device. I have to wonder:
What do you have that you feel you need to take such precautions?
What do you think folks would do with whatever it is you have?
It also seems a bit odd that taking things so far at home that you'd even use a cellular network in the US and keep data on that phone. So much on these phones auto sync to storage you have no control over and frankly just traversing these fairly insecure networks that are already well integrated with wiretapping and monitoring systems... it seems an odd choice.

Sensation's imei changed!

I only noticed this when trying to use another sim card (even though i unlocked it), the imei is different to the one on the back and the box of the phone, is there anyway for me to restore or get my original imei number back. I suspect that a rom must have corrupted it.
Regards

ghostcaller said:
I only noticed this when trying to use another sim card (even though i unlocked it), the imei is different to the one on the back and the box of the phone, is there anyway for me to restore or get my original imei number back. I suspect that a rom must have corrupted it.
Regards
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Did you ever send in your Sensation to HTC for repairs? If HTC replaced your motherboard then that explains why the IMEI is different.

android1234567 said:
Did you ever send in your Sensation to HTC for repairs? If HTC replaced your motherboard then that explains why the IMEI is different.
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Nope I have never sent it. I have done a check on the current dodgy imei and it says that it is a htc one x rather than a sensation. I would seriously pay someone for sorting this mess!

A ROM did not corrupt it. That just didn't happen.
There are ways to change an IMEI, but don't ask how to do it on XDA. And don't even discuss doing it on XDA.
Changing that number is illegal and XDA does not tolerate discussion of illegal activities. It is a bannable offense on XDA.
Furthermore your IMEI number did not get accidentally changed to a valid number of another device. The amount of coincidence involved there is unfathomable. It's like picking a star in the night sky at random and having it be the one that has abundant ineligent life.
Did you buy this phone from a store? Or did you buy it from a guy in an ally in a transaction that started with "Pssst...hey buddy...you wannt buy a *wink wink* new phone?"

Oh I'm sorry Mr clever, sitting behind your of screen on the other side of the world I never knew you had unseen knowledge of my phone, and the fact that you try and say my phone is stolen a f***king joke and represents an accusing lying mind that you have, I have you know that I purchase my tech brand new, my imei did change keyboard warrior it was due to a dodgy firmware, alot of people have had the same problem I guess it's a f**ked up minded people like you who think everyone's phone is stolen. Ban me if u want I ain't taking **** from a 'law' abiding sheep who has no freedom!

ghostcaller said:
Oh I'm sorry Mr clever, sitting behind your of screen on the other side of the world I never knew you had unseen knowledge of my phone, and the fact that you try and say my phone is stolen a f***king joke and represents an accusing lying mind that you have, I have you know that I purchase my tech brand new, my imei did change keyboard warrior it was due to a dodgy firmware, alot of people have had the same problem I guess it's a f**ked up minded people like you who think everyone's phone is stolen. Ban me if u want I ain't taking **** from a 'law' abiding sheep who has no freedom!
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So now you say you know the IMEI changed due to a dodgy firmware? And you know it's that because a lot of people have had the same problem...but earlier you thought it might have been due to a ROM install?
ghostcaller said:
I only noticed this when trying to use another sim card (even though i unlocked it), the imei is different to the one on the back and the box of the phone, is there anyway for me to restore or get my original imei number back. I suspect that a rom must have corrupted it.
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There appears to be some inconsistency in your story.
If it was so well documented that you knew it was dodgy firmware, how come 12 hours ago you thought it was ROM related? What firmware did you use? Where did you get it? Where is it well documented that this is a regular problem suffered by a lot of people? Can you share these resources?
The fact is that changing the IMEI is a crime. The fact that you seem to still want to do it after being made aware that it a crime doesn't exactly convince me that you're completely trustworthy and on the level here.
Again, discussing IMEI changes is not tolerated on XDA. I just gave you a friendly warning, assuming you didn't know. Buy hey...who am I to get in the way of your little temper tantum if that's what makes you happy?

Skipjacks said:
So now you say you know the IMEI changed due to a dodgy firmware? And you know it's that because a lot of people have had the same problem...but earlier you thought it might have been due to a ROM install?
There appears to be some inconsistency in your story.
If it was so well documented that you knew it was dodgy firmware, how come 12 hours ago you thought it was ROM related? What firmware did you use? Where did you get it? Where is it well documented that this is a regular problem suffered by a lot of people? Can you share these resources?
The fact is that changing the IMEI is a crime. The fact that you seem to still want to do it after being made aware that it a crime doesn't exactly convince me that you're completely trustworthy and on the level here.
Again, discussing IMEI changes is not tolerated on XDA. I just gave you a friendly warning, assuming you didn't know. Buy hey...who am I to get in the way of your little temper tantum if that's what makes you happy?
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Hey buddy check your PM
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ghostcaller said:
Oh I'm sorry Mr clever, sitting behind your of screen on the other side of the world I never knew you had unseen knowledge of my phone, and the fact that you try and say my phone is stolen a f***king joke and represents an accusing lying mind that you have, I have you know that I purchase my tech brand new, my imei did change keyboard warrior it was due to a dodgy firmware, alot of people have had the same problem I guess it's a f**ked up minded people like you who think everyone's phone is stolen. Ban me if u want I ain't taking **** from a 'law' abiding sheep who has no freedom!
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Control your composer :what:
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

ghostcaller said:
Oh I'm sorry Mr clever, sitting behind your of screen on the other side of the world I never knew you had unseen knowledge of my phone, and the fact that you try and say my phone is stolen a f***king joke and represents an accusing lying mind that you have, I have you know that I purchase my tech brand new, my imei did change keyboard warrior it was due to a dodgy firmware, alot of people have had the same problem I guess it's a f**ked up minded people like you who think everyone's phone is stolen. Ban me if u want I ain't taking **** from a 'law' abiding sheep who has no freedom!
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OK, time to relax. There is no need for this sort of out burst, if you feel action is required please report it, we will handle it.
The instructions you have been given are correct. The changing of IMEI numbers is not allowed on XDA as this information can be used by people who trade in stolen phones. Now i am not saying you are involved in this in any way, but unless you have a backup of your IMEI number, we will be unable to help you here on XDA. Sorry we cannot help you further, but we cannot aide in the breaking of the law.
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Help with lost IMEI on fake Lenovo S850c clone

Greetings everyone,
I have an issue i have been trying to combat for a full week now, so i am now based on your expertise to resolve my situation. I have a friend who has bought a fake lenovo clone with the model code S850c. Because the firmware it shipped with was fulled to the brim with bloatware and popups, he asked me to flash another ROM using SP Flash tool. Since it is not a legit model, i only found a couple of ROMS which actually worked.
In between firmware flashes, i had to do a "Format all and flash", which also resulted in the IMEI numbers originally binded with the phone to be deleted. However, I am not able to restore them, because i ommited writing them down before flashing the phone. As a result, the phone recongnises the SIM card but is unable to register to any network. Naturally, i went into engineering mode and punched in the 2 IMEI numbers located under the battery(it is dual SIM), but they must be invalid, since the phone will still not register and imei.info cannot recongnise them.
As a last resort, i also tried to input IMEI numbers from old working phones i have in my drawer, but i still experience the same behaviour. Is there any way to find the original IMEI numbers again or i am doomed? Also, with known working IMEI failed to work?

Only ways xda will advise is to restore a backup that should have been made or to return it to the oem.
Messing with the imei in anyway is illegal in most countries so the above is the only ways xda allows to be talked about.

Thanks for the tip, but I can provide proof that my statements are true and the devices are not stolen, if that is required. I am by no means a thief, i just want to correct a mistake i made in the first place.
In addition, what i asked is about another way to retrieve the IMEI that ORIGINALLY came with the device in order to restore it, without having a backup beforehand. As i mentioned before, the ones under the battery are NOT blacklisted, they are simply fake ones.
With that said, i understand and respect XDA's rules and policies.

DarksonDAP said:
Thanks for the tip, but I can provide proof that my statements are true and the devices are not stolen, if that is required. I am by no means a thief, i just want to correct a mistake i made in the first place.
In addition, what i asked is about another way to retrieve the IMEI that ORIGINALLY came with the device in order to restore it, without having a backup beforehand. As i mentioned before, the ones under the battery are NOT blacklisted, they are simply fake ones.
With that said, i understand and respect XDA's rules and policies.
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I am sure you can. That wasn't a question really. The biggest issue is that any of the tools that might even help you are illegal so you understand the hard place xda is in. Your issue will be most likely the fact that it is a knock off which will mean that it doesn't have a valid imei to begin with. See if you can track down a stock OS for it in another site. (you won't find one here) and see if flashing it will bring it back. Other then that I would send it back and get it replaced but to be honest, with clones you are best off not touching them.

ok i see, thank you so much for your help! I hope i did not sound agressive in my reply, but i was really desperate for a solution
Best regards!

Can i enable usb debugging on a locked phone or otherwise unlock it?

HI, my stepmoms brother recently passed away and she is asking me if there is any way to unlock his phone. She wants to extract the photos and check the messages for anything pertaining to his death. The sim card was empty
We dont have his samsung account and cant unlock it that way. The USB Debugging is turned off and the phone is not rooted.
Is there anyway to turn on ADB via recovery mode or anything like that? iOS had tons of lockscreen bypasses years ago, are there any for android? Thanks very much

No.
You need a data recovery specialist. Not sure if they can with a screen lock or not... probably not.
That be your best shot.
My thought is if he wanted it to be accessible he wouldn't have locked it...

blackhawk said:
No.
You need a data recovery specialist. Not sure if they can with a screen lock or not... probably not.
That be your best shot.
My thought is if he wanted it to be accessible he wouldn't have locked it...
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I lock my phone so my kids don't see a dirty pic or something. When I'm dead I probably won't have time to unlock it and I hope someone would help my family.
I used software back In the day to recover **** on a locked I phone 5 that my stepson forgot his info to. It wasn't complete data but got alot of photos back and scrambled texts. Obviously it's not a good idea of there's sensitive info but he was young and the phone was done for.
It advertised android but this was 4 years ago. It was sold under the guise of parental control/monitoring. Recovery.

Ry4n83 said:
I lock my phone so my kids don't see a dirty pic or something. When I'm dead I probably won't have time to unlock it and I hope someone would help my family.
I used software back In the day to recover **** on a locked I phone 5 that my stepson forgot his info to. It wasn't complete data but got alot of photos back and scrambled texts. Obviously it's not a good idea of there's sensitive info but he was young and the phone was done for.
It advertised android but this was 4 years ago. It was sold under the guise of parental control/monitoring. Recovery.
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You're point?
If the data is important than amateur attempts can complicate recovery or make it impossible if it is possible at all.
Even if recovered the file structure is destroyed which has far reaching consequences and limitations.
When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
As for kids maybe you need to be more of an open book or get use to the fact the book maybe locked till the end of time.
My original thought on the matter stands, the owner wanted it for their eyes only.

blackhawk said:
You're point?
If the data is important than amateur attempts can complicate recovery or make it impossible if it is possible at all.
Even if recovered the file structure is destroyed which has far reaching consequences and limitations.
When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
As for kids maybe you need to be more of an open book or get use to the fact the book maybe locked till the end of time.
My original thought on the matter stands, the owner wanted it for their eyes only.
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Man I was just trying to give them a glimmer of hope. I wasnt trying to claim your ethical stance isn't on point. Hell alot of devices require a lock to use stuff. So if by chance there are special photos maybe there's still a chance. I wasn't trying to be right or wrong just that it was possible at one point. Sorry my intent wasn't a disagreement just felt some sympathy for the situation. Have a good one.

Ry4n83 said:
Man I was just trying to give them a glimmer of hope. I wasnt trying to claim your ethical stance isn't on point. Hell alot of devices require a lock to use stuff. So if by chance there are special photos maybe there's still a chance. I wasn't trying to be right or wrong just that it was possible at one point. Sorry my intent wasn't a disagreement just felt some sympathy for the situation. Have a good one.
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Point is you're likely to do more damage than good if you don't know what you're doing.
Simply booting up the device risks overwriting the deleted data. It's unassigned disk space now, free for system use. A hands on recovery expert is the OP's best shot.
I wuv philosophical debates; you opened that door.
In reality we have no clue who this online OP is or who's phone it was. My empathy tends to go to whoever locked the device.
When I lock something it's with the intent I will be unlocking it. Unless I give someone the key as well...

blackhawk said:
When you lock, encrypt or otherwise password a device, the person most likely to get locked out is you.
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Totally agree with this.

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My grandchilds all got a cheap phone with NO Internet access, only for calling. So it's granted they can't access stuff what isn't good for their mind.