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Has there been any announcement on the ability to install apps on the external media on the TF? It seems strange that this is possible for Android 2.2, but not 3.0.
I think this is mostly due to the fluid state of the partitions of the operating system in 3.0 On 2.x the /system and /data are set sizes so to free up some some space for more apps. On 3.x if more space is needed, it alloactes more space so app2sd is not needed
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
worthless microsd
i bought the 16gb version and a 32gb microsd card thinking it would be a cheaper way to have more storage. Instead it seems the external storage doesn't serve much of a purpose leaving me a little disappointed. I assumed Android was already supporting multiple storage locations but I guess that was removed in 3.0. Ideally I would love to be able to use Gallery to sync my picasa albums but if I did that I would end up with no free space on the main drive.
Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
I know some custom ROMs for other tablets have offered optional methods for changing the mount points of internal and external storage. For example, setting the external card to mount at /sdcard and leaving internal storage for /Removable/microSD. I asked about this in dev forum last week but no takers.
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With 3.0 google finally got smart. Apps are installed to your internal memory the same as everything else. So you have 16/32GB for apps and everything else, and then you have your SD card in addition to that.
So having all that internal memory makes Apps2SD useless.
You'll see froyo apps2sd in ice cream sandwich most likely for older devices most likely, but in honeycomb it's gone.
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
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Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
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Dave
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Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
Worst case scenario: if you have root, you could replace the directory Gallery uses for the Offline photos with a symlink to a directory on the (micro)SD Card. You might need to put a ".nomedia" file in that directory (to keep the media scanner from indexing those files and thinking they should /also/ be in the gallery), but it'll work long as you leave the sdcard in whenever Gallery is open.
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I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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That's great! I always hated worrying about whether something was installed on the current SD card.
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I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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(I'm Not having a go at the above poster).
Thats all well and good but if you use Googlemaps (Navigation) with the offline maps ala Htc Desire and others You can quickly use several gig of space.
add to that Copilot maps 2.5Gb or Aura 2.2Gb and that 16Gb dosn't seem so big, lol..
I bought a 32Gb SD Card for the Dock and now know that its a waste of time as you have to manually open any music or films as they dont appear in the Gallery etc.
I also bought a 32Gb Micro SD Card for the tablet which is where I want to put Downloads and the Gallery Also the Navigation Maps. But the apps wont see the data so again why have them.
So all in all extra storage appears to be a waste of time.
Hopefully some of the Guru's here can sort this out as Its crazy to have all this available space and not be able to use it.
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
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Dave
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640kb should be enough for anybody.
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AlexTheStampede said:
640kb should be enough for anybody.
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It was, at the time!
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Dave
jjal09 said:
With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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Lordgodgeneral already answered this when you brought it up the first time, but it is simple to transfer any of your media files over to the SD card. Yes when you first download your pics they will be stored on internal memory, but you can manually move them over to the sd card and they will still be recognized by the transformer. I believe the stock file manager will work for this, but I personally use root explorer.
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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That has more to do with the app itself. If an app lets you set where it saves, it'll work.
It may be possible to have all the internal storage dedicated to apps (/data) and point /sdcard to the removable micro SD card with some fstab modifications. I'll try this tonight and see what happens.
HD GAMES????
ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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Ithink its better to loose the games if somthing damages your internal storage. I have the 32 gb Transformer and thats more than enough for games. You can not play 30 games at the same time and if you bakup your game and gamedata you can uninstal a game and install it again if you whant to play it.
I dont understand why people always ask for intstall something on Micro SD card. Intrenal storage is much faster than a card.
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So I bought 3 games on the Gameloft site because I wanted to take advantage of the buy 1 get 1 free deal. All my games except one didn't install correctly. It was Spiderman.
I downloaded and installed Spiderman, but when I go to launch it, it says that the game needs to download extra files. When I click yes the loading status comes on for a second and then I get an error.
Anyway I called Gameloft customer service and having tried some solutions, spiderman still would not download the extra files to initialize.
The next solution was to offer me another game, and I asked if I could get Rainbow 6 Vanguard. They texted me the link to download, and after having downloaded and installed, at the same point right after the Gameloft insignia, it says that I don't have enough external memory and to free space by deleting files.
I tried deleting as many files as I could from my 2 GB memory card and even though it says I have 2 GB available on the stock settings, within Elixir it says that my external memory has only 451 MB available.
I went to get me an 8 GB memory card hoping this would solve the problem, and still the stock settings from home menu would show I had 8 GB free, but in Elixir the external memory would still be at 400 something MBs available.
Does anyone know how to free up memory so I can run Rainbow 6 Vanguard?
Also does anyone know what's going on with Spiderman, and why I can't download the extra files that needs to be downloaded to initialize the game?
Oh and after I called Gameloft back to tell them Rainbow 6 wasn't working they let me choose another game and I got Avatar which installed fine.
I still get to keep Spiderman and Rainbow 6 for free, I just need to find a way to get them to run. Any help I'd appreciate. Thanks.
All gameloft games install on the phones internal memory they dont seem to install on the sd card. make sure you have enough internal phone memory for the games to install properly. You kill off all of the phones internal 8 gigs then your out of luck free up some internal space!
Just a shot in the dark and I could be way off base. But by chance are you sure the "External" memory you are referring to isn't the interal SD for the phone and not your actual swappable SD that you installed? If you are consistently seeing 400MB then It sounds like you've ran out of space on the interal SD storage. You should try patching your Gameloft games to run off of your 8GB SD if you haven't already. It will give you back space on the interal memory to download the rest of the files. Gameloft games can be pretty large.
I found this out the hard way when I got a little too happy with their B1G1 myself hehe. 6 games too happy and 0 space on the interal memory until I found the patch in the Optimus 2X forums to run the game off of the _External SD.
there is a workaround in the themes and apps section that lets you install gameloft games directly to your sd card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104551
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Just a shot in the dark and I could be way off base. But by chance are you sure the "External" memory you are referring to isn't the interal SD for the phone and not your actual swappable SD that you installed? If you are consistently seeing 400MB then It sounds like you've ran out of space on the interal SD storage. You should try patching your Gameloft games to run off of your 8GB SD if you haven't already. It will give you back space on the interal memory to download the rest of the files. Gameloft games can be pretty large.
I found this out the hard way when I got a little too happy with their B1G1 myself hehe. 6 games too happy and 0 space on the interal memory until I found the patch in the Optimus 2X forums to run the game off of the _External SD.
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Thanks for the response guys. I'm not sure where it's being installed, if it's on the internal or external memory, but when I move whatever applications that can be moved over to the external SD card and then try and run Rainbow 6 the amount of memory to be freed becomes higher from what was previously being asked, say from 450 MB needed to be free to 540 MB that needs to be free now.
So I'm thinking that the apps that I moved over to the external memory took up more space and that's why the number to be freed has gone up. I don't know.
I've also tried uninstalling every game that I bought hoping that it would free up memory and then I could run just that one game, Rainbow 6, but still I get the not enough space on memory card error and it tells me to delete a certain amount, right now after having reinstalled all my games along with Avatar, it's saying free up 728 MBs.
Anyway can you post a link to that patch you're talking about that's found on the Optimus 2x forums? I really wanna try this game, looks awesome.
On another note has anyone tried Spiderman on their G2x? Or are both Spiderman and Rainbow 6 incompatible with G2x?
jeffreynew23 post the link above your reply. It will tell you what to download and how to move Gameloft data to your swappable SD card to free up space on the internal SD and still play them. I moved 4 of my gameloft games to my external SD. You should move what you already have installed and working first because you will need the internal storage to first download the Game data before you patch the installer and move the files to the External storage.
Because the G2X has internal SD storage along with an External SD slot it can be confusing. By default, the internal SD storage is where your files download too. When you use the 2.2 builtin App2SD function that is also where the files go. The best way to see your interal vs external is to plug it into your PC. When you turn mass USB storage on you will get 2 USB Storage devices (instead one) which will be the Internal SD and your External SD.
by default... your gameloft files will install to the g2x internal memeory.. NOT your memory card.
HOWEVER.. a frriendly member of the xda forums has discovered a hack that will mod your gameloft apks to install to your external sd card.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104551
Now.. to solve your 2gb sd card issue... i just so happen to own 3 8gb cards.. i only use 2... which means i have 1 lying around.... if you're interested in buying it off me for a very reasonable price PM me. OR... they're dirt cheap all over the net. if you're buying one.. I'd actually suggest you part with the $20 or so it would cost to get a 16gb... which is what i'll be doing very soon.. then I'll have TWO 8gb cards for your consideration.... LOL
Oh thanks again guys, but I've already read that and it seems complicated and tedious, also it doesn't seem stable and I don't wanna brick my phone since I'm still noob at modifying phone files and hacking.
Oh btate I also tried buying a 8 GB card yesterday to test to see if I could get more free memory that way and no go with Rainbow 6 or Spiderman, although on the LG Optimus 2x forums I see users of that model are playing Spiderman, so I'm not sure why I can't download the extra files?
Also I think it's those particular games that has errors because I just downloaded and installed Galaxy on Fire and it did ask me to download the additional files of I believe 580 something MBs and it installed fine along with Dungeon Defender.
One more thing though, I noticed when I uninstall the games then reinstall them they no longer need to download the extra files. Are they somehow left on your phone even after you uninstall the games taking up precious space and leaving traces of files?
Finally, if anyone wants to download a free movie here's a code that came with the micro SD card I bought. It's a free promo that came with the purchase and a 1 time use, so whoever wants to and does it first you score.
Just go to http://www1.movie-promo.com/PNY-US and then follow instructions and enter this code MZRJ5QR2Y5V9TNW5
I have recieved this P3113 GT2 8gb as a christmas present. I have rooted it and flashed a custom recovery but remained on official 4.0.4 firmware. When I was trying to install a few apps, a notification popped that I had low memory. My 4.59gb available space turned into 12mb in just 4 days and I haven't installed anything major except for a book reader and books totaling around 600mb.
Is there any fix to get those 4gigs back to usable memory?
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I have recieved this P3113 GT2 8gb as a christmas present. I have rooted it and flashed a custom recovery but remained on official 4.0.4 firmware. When I was trying to install a few apps, a notification popped that I had low memory. My 4.59gb available space turned into 12mb in just 4 days and I haven't installed anything major except for a book reader and books totaling around 600mb.
Is there any fix to get those 4gigs back to usable memory?
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Settings/storage, check your miscellaneous files and download files.... in fact anything that seems to have a high number next to it.
I got an 8gb version a month ago from Amazon, and i find i have to manage storage carefully. This is just one of a few things i do.
All my music is on Google play so i keep a cache and stream most of it. I have invested in a16gb memory SD, which helps as all my photos and videos go straight to my external SD.
I keep my books to a minimum only keeping the ones I'm reading on the device, and taking advantage of kindle and Google books cloud storage ( let's be honest, it takes only seconds to download books).
I also keep my apps reserved to the ones i use the most. They can always be downloaded again when you need them.
My office programs i have linked to dropbox, which upload when closed ( use that too for photos and videos.
I delete podcasts once listened to, and usually only stream these.
These few house keeping tips keep my device running smoothly and i have plenty of memory left.
Hope this helps
Have you tried moving anything over to internal? How big of external SD card do you have? If you have a large SD card, you can swap internal, and external. There is a post here in general that let's you do this. Wish I could be more helpful, maybe post a screenshot to show ur storage.
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What you need is this app : folder size chart from the Play store.
Sort the directories by size and check whats eating your mb.
The folder youre looking is sdcard.
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Well, thank you for the help but it was easier to ODIN back to stock 4.0.4
:good: to all of you!
Hi!
This is related to a Galaxy Ace 2 phone, but I posted by mistake on the general forum.
It seems I can't install/update large-ish apps using Google Play and I get an error related to insufficient storage.
The problem is that I have around 170MB available internally, plus 500MB on each SD card (internal and external) and the error shows up when trying to update Swype, Google+, Google Search, etc. (all around 15-20MB).
If I uninstall some apps/games (e.g. Angry Birds, Cut the Rope) the free space goes up a bit (not much, as I keep these on the SD card) and now I'm again able to update those apps initially mentioned.
It seems just like my Ace 2 is trying to keep around 150-170MB as some sort of reserved space.
Is this normal? Should I worry that I may have a faulty phone/NAND?
I'm using the MF1 BTU ROM, stock, but I'm coming from the MB4 version in order to get the full 624MB RAM.
Thanks!
Reserved space could be system files. Overwriting those could potentially brick your system.
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Sure that u have free room?
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Sure that u have free room?
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Yes, pretty sure. I checked it via the Storage menu in System Settings and also via Titanium Backup.
Also, I'm not using any kind of script or app like Link2SD which mounts an EXT2/3/4 partition as /data. I think this excludes the possibility that free space is being incorrectly reported (but I'm not really sure).
SolGarlic said:
Hi!
This is related to a Galaxy Ace 2 phone, but I posted by mistake on the general forum.
It seems I can't install/update large-ish apps using Google Play and I get an error related to insufficient storage.
The problem is that I have around 170MB available internally, plus 500MB on each SD card (internal and external) and the error shows up when trying to update Swype, Google+, Google Search, etc. (all around 15-20MB).
If I uninstall some apps/games (e.g. Angry Birds, Cut the Rope) the free space goes up a bit (not much, as I keep these on the SD card) and now I'm again able to update those apps initially mentioned.
It seems just like my Ace 2 is trying to keep around 150-170MB as some sort of reserved space.
Is this normal? Should I worry that I may have a faulty phone/NAND?
I'm using the MF1 BTU ROM, stock, but I'm coming from the MB4 version in order to get the full 624MB RAM.
Thanks!
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Hi,
This is a very commun issue with Android, it seems that the algorithm calculating free memory isn't that efficient. The best solution is to keep more than 250MB on internal memory. And if it happens, to remove one or two apps
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Why not try to install these apps on sdcard ? It may solve your internal memory problem.
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Why not try to install these apps on sdcard ? It may solve your internal memory problem.
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That would indeed minimize the impact of the problem. However, not all apps support being moved to the external sdcard and some become a bit limited. In addition to that, even apps moved to the sdcard continue to use the dalvik cache on internal storage.
I have the same problem but i do clear the catch each time
Hey guys,
I would like to buy 16GB version, but it's on long delay on Moto site and I need to ship this phone to my nieces in Ukraine by the end of August. So I bought 8GB version from Amazon to play with it and see how it works and really love the phone. The storage is the only sour point. 8 GB just does not cut it and Moto does not allow to use SD card storage for app installation. Moving apps to SD card works only for some apps and even then most of the storage being used is Internal, so 3-4 large games and this phone would be out of storage.
Is there is a way to force apps to install fully to SD card? Root + App2SD maybe? I do not have much experience with rooting and would like to avoid it, if possible due to desire to stay on OTA updates schedule.
Any advise?
To be honest rooting is your best bet for an optimal experience. I'm using CM and this phone can move more apps of you install the smaller version of google apps if it is really a big problem your only bet is to order the 16 and wait.
Transfer app to SD Card to free up space
Currently, there seems no tool can help you to move apps to SD card to free up space, but there indeed tools can be used to transfer photos, pictures, music,videos, contacts etc. to the SD card. If you are interest in it, you can read some tutorial for help
Transferring music and photos works wonderfully. And Google Play Music as well as Google Photos supports saving files on SD Card as default which makes it even easier to manage your storage. The apps though is a huge issue. I installed yesterday Walking Dead and it ate more then 1GB of storage of the puny 3GB available out of the box. Add here the app cache as well as storage required to do OTA updates and you really will struggle to install any large apps on the phone without running in 'out of memory' error messages.
The phone is wonderful otherwise - light, bright screen with excellent auto-dimming, good speaker and even better camera, responsive, waterproof (yes, I tested ), pure Lollipop Android experience , etc. etc.