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Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
tourjefferson said:
Hi all,
I've got some questions regarding the phone's memory.
When I open the App Manager and I click on "Storage" it shows me that the phone has:
System Memory
Internal Memory
SD Card
Using the app "App 2 SD" my apps are transferred only from either System memory to Internal memory or vice-versa.
This App 2 SD seems not to send my apps to my EXTERNAL SD Card (where I have plenty of memory).
Could someone please explain the different between system and internal memory?
And, once and for all, how can I move/transfer ALL apps downloaded from the market to my EXTERNAL SD Card?
Can I do that manually? how?
Another app from the market? which one?
And how about the Gameloft games? is there any way to move them?
Another question is that after updating for the GB some apps seem to open themselves and they keep running on the background (i.e. Google Maps, LG Smart etc), is there anything that can be done to stop them to start?
Thanks in advance,
J
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system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
jimakos29 said:
system memory is the memory reserved for the OS and its applications. Internal memory is the rest of the phones memory that is used to store anything else (included apps you move with app2sd)
To move gameloft games to the external sd there is a thread so look it up a bit.
As for apps running themselves it is the way android works. It keeps running apps it "thinks" you might use so when you actually use them the load a lot faster. No worries there as when your phone needs the extra memory (running an HD game for example) it shuts down all apps that are not necessary. If you still want to prevent them from running you can use a task manager to freeze them but you need root.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
I have seen the thread regarding Gameloft games, but if I'm not mistaken my phone need to be rooted, which I'm not planning to do any time soon. So that thread doesn't help me to get rid of the games from my internal memory.
Also, the App 2 SD app doesn't send the apps that I have in the internal memory to the external SD. It keeps sending the apps to(or from) internal and system memory.
So, I've got an empty external SD card that I can't transfer anything there even using an app that supposed to do that.
Is there anyway that I can move the apps manually?
Regarding the apps that keep running without need, that didn't happen when I had Froyo and it seems to me that running several apps on the background can cost my battery juice, so this is not so clever.
Apps did run in background on froyo as I rooted specifically to stop some but maybe they were not doing so when you checked as they stop in certain circumstances.
As for the sd thing you are right and it sucks but for some reason lg made it so when we choose install to sd it goes to internal sd card and I have yet to find way around this though for me its not a problem as I use my actual external sd card as storage for camera app and backups instead but the internal one will fit plenty of apps on.
Dave
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I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
But won't that mean that mess up apps or cause problems, for example if you click to format or unmount external sd wont it try doing that to the internal one?
Dave
Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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Of course, you should not take out the sd or format it after the switch. If you format internal sd, it would in fact format the external sd. Flashing to a new rom wil just use the internal sd again. Just be carefull. You can copy data to your computer as backup before you try this.
I like this sofar, my downloads, photos, films and music is placed directly on the big sd now.
Peter
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All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
Dave
mistermentality said:
All my photos films and music are on external sd already and I still have four gigabytes of the internal sd card free so will stick with things as they are rather than hack it though is nice to know it is possible
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Agreed, but I don't have space lol
Anyway, found out that the problem with app running themselves on the background are worst than I first thought.
All kinds of apps seem to start themselves and keep running, that caused my phone to loose a 100% battery over the night!
Is anyone having this problem?
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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mistermentality said:
Are you sure its the apps? I had severe battery drain and had to calibrate it then let it die and recharge while off to sort it.
I also rooted and use gemini app manager to stop apps auto running.
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I'm 99% sure that the problem are the apps running.
Before, with Froyo, I didn't have this problem (apps starting themselves) and the battery was just fine.
I've realised something recently though, when I was using the app "App 2 SD" I was sending some apps to my System Memory in order to free space on Internal Memory.
What I noticed was that the apps in the System memory were the ones starting up themselves, so I moved them back to internal memory and they seem not to be starting again.
I'm keeping an eye on it because it's weird, but it's been almost one full day and my battery is doing okay, or that is what least seems to appear on my screen.
Pjedr said:
I noticed too my 32gb external card is not used by app2sd apps.
Now i swapped the cards in a configfile, and after restart i have 32gb internal sd and 8gb external so it is working.
I got this from the folloing thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1189701
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hi,
Which config file is this? Is this the config file for apps2sd or the vold.stab file? (I could no longer the thread in your link)
Thanks
I think apps auto running in background is the major bug in GB, and i also have this problem so you are not alone or the only one having this problem
I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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Bradlees said:
I continually run out of space on my blaze's internal memory.I can't sync certain things, like evernote does not have enough space to save notes. I can't do any backups because there is not enough available memory.
I don't think I have an excessive amount of apps, and have put as many on the external sd card as possible. I don't have any games stored on the internal memory, nor any media save a few pictures.
If I look at the applications on the sd card(the internal card) It says I'm using 1.3gb. Just a quick tally and I hardly have more than 70mb in the size of the applications. Am I missing something? Previous phones I have used with less memory have not encountered this. Is there any screenshot or other info that may help?
Any assistance is gratefully appreciated.
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Are you on custom ROM/kernel? If so, which ROM/kernel are you using?
some questions
are you using a custom rom? do you have CWM? If you have cwm maybe a backup is on there along with titanium backups... that would eat up a gig.
Best advise is to connect it to your pc and check where all the space is being used.
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I believe by default the pictures and video files are saved to internal storage so I would check on that too.
I am using the darkknight rom build 3. Sorry for not mentioning that. But I encountered this same issue while running stock. I know the majority of the pics are on the external sd.
I do have cwm and ti on this. THese cannot be setup to use space on the external sd can they?
I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.
Try out an app called DiskUsage, it works a lot like WinDirStat for PCs.
That way you can find what's taking up a ton of data
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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It comes with a 4gb external sdcard
LiveFaster said:
I'm a little confused. I thought i read somewhere the blaze had 4gb of internal memory. Why am i only showing up with 1gb system memory. But also like 2gb usb storage but what is that?
Thanks for any help.
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It comes with 4gigs internal and 4gigs external. The internal is used for the OS and system apps. I installed GTA anniversary edition and it took up all my USB storage...then it got deleted.
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thomas.raines said:
I would suggest booting to recovery, format /cache and dalvik-cache partitions.
Fix perms, and reboot.
You stated you had low MEMORY so that leads me to believe your device is cluttered with temp and cached files which can be easily removed by doing what I stated above.
Keep in mind ladies and gents, memory is different from storage.
However, the issues you stated above could indicate a low STORAGE issue.
So, if you are having a storage problem, then you need to figure out what is taking up so much space on your device. That can usually be determined by going to settings>storage and looking at the output that is displayed.
For more advice, please let me know that it is a low MEMORY issue or a STORAGE issue.
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Sorry for not clarifying, its a storage issue. I should have been a little more exact with my posting...
Incidentally, I cleared up about half a gig by deleting the ti backup folder's contents,
You can change the location of your backups in Titanium by going to preferences-> and scroll down to 'Backup folder location'. Look next to the 'DETECT' button and that will show you the current path. It defaults to 'mnt/sdcard/TitaniumBackup'. Change it to 'mnt/sdcard/external_sd/TitaniumBackup' by pressing the back button and navigating to the right place. The removable storage (sd card) on the Blaze is the sdcard/external_sd path. That way you will still be able to have your backups.
Thanks, there was about half a gig in the ti backup folder, so this should fix my problem.
Is there a way to store apps on the external sd and still get the widgets to work? And also to free up the internal storage?
Thanks
No, sorry, widgets need to be on the internal storage to work properly.
How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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xavicivic said:
How do i get games like gta and spectral souls to install to my external?? Those games took up all the internal memory. It type suck because theres no space to cache up music from my google music library.
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Link2sd app you can force move those resource/memory hog programs
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OK so this is my problem...and need help quick BEFOOREE!!
Ok....so I've had the phone for about three months now and i'm beginning to think that this is a problem that I can't resolve on my own..meaning I might have to get a new phone...I'm running the custom ROM and have not rooted the phone.. The problem started when I tried to sedn pictures through my messages. The phone would say..Not enough memory get rid of some stuff.... so i started uninstalling apps that i really don't need. Problem didn't seem to resolve itself, so since everything is backed up to googles ( as far as contacts and apps) I did a system reset to no avail. Seems like I'm having the same problem. Now I have an 8Gb Sd card mounted in system and when I try to move apps into the Sd card it says not enough memory??? Even after system reset. So this is what it says on my storage window... System Storage 0.89GB....USB Storage ( by the way wtf is this??) 1.40 GB and then the SD card with Total space : 7.40 GB Available 7.35GB...I can't seem to move anything into the USB or Sd cards... and yes the Sd card is mounted, or so the system says.... for the sake of not throwing the phone out of the window please help!!
I'm noticing....*whilst* playing around that it seems my phone thinks this USB storage is the SD card. when i check applications and see those in the SD card it shows me those on USB storage...and nothing seems to go to Sd card. I tried downloading apps2 sd and it says same thing...not enough memory...because those few appas I have are taking the whole 2 GB's of space in this invisible usb storage??? Still need help. what the hell is this usb storage and what makes it...looking around i found on the samsung forums that (You must enable USB storage to mount the SD card) i don't remerber doing this and have looked everywhere to turn it off...btw I have the phone replacement thing from T-Mobile..would rooting the phone affect that?.Since it looks to be my only option...I though doing a system reset would fix this but seems not...
in settings-storage, the sd card shows your external sd, usb storage shows the internal space and system shows the system space. this phone has very small system space. my solution was to root the phone and remove the unneeded apps and the "bloat" that tmobil gave us so kindly. you can find guides that show you what can safely be removed, or you can install a custom rom which already has been thinned out. aside from this, clearing the app data in setting-applications can recover some of the space but depending on which app you clear you may need to login to apps like facebook the next time you use that app.
the options in there will have a 'move to sd' button if the app can be moved otherwise it will be greyed out. moving any that can be moved will help.
next will be the stock messaging app that stores its info in system, consider trying out go-sms or handcent as your messaging app and they will store most info on your external sd and help save system space...
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Guess ill try rooting it. My problem seems to be that the phone thinks the Usb storage is the sd storage...and then external sd is actual sd. Sucks...cause it seemed to be a decent phone..but your tight..the bloatware is rediculous..any. smooth custom Roms u can reccomend?
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ive been using tweaked and from what ive read, dark knight is nice also... since flashing tweaked i havent gotten the memory message at all, but i do move everything that is movable to sd...
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I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
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I tried updating an app last night on my tablet, actual app is Hill Climb.
In the play store I was getting insufficient space available when I tried to update it. I checked my storage and had almost 1.5GB availble. What's going on? No way is the update of that size..
Also I am running AOKB milestone 1 rom. I am also about to order myself a 32GB SD card.
But can someone tell me what's up with this insufficient space error I get? I tried rebooting and it didn't seem to help.
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I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
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I've had that happen a couple of times with other apps. I think it's the app and not the tablet but I have no way to prove it. I don't remember the app I had that problem with but I also had plenty of space when it happened. I just tried installing Hill Climb and it installed without a hitch. FWIW, I've googled the problem and others have had the same problem.
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Thanks! Well from what I saw was is that there is apparently some sort of 'partition' for APPS? Which is not related to your overall storage, so it could depleet itself pretty quick?
I just don't know how exactly one increases this APP partition or what can be done about it? Basically the 1GB I see is meant for music/photos/videos etc.. APP installs go on a different partition all together.
Any idea about this?
I had this issue the other day, I rebooted the tab and it went away.
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
DHeffernan said:
Turns out there is an app called APP2SD that I guess takes care of this.. going to have to look into this and see what it does.
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I couldn't get it to work on my tab. My Droid X & Droid Razor Maxx both have the option to move apps to the SD card under app settings. I don't know why the Tab doesn't.
Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
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Maybe because the card is actually shown as extsdcard and the internal memory is shown as sdcard.
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What do you mean? I don't even have a SD card currently installed in the device..
In a file manager if you look under mnt in the root directory you'll see an sdcard, that's the internal memory. An SD card will show up as ExtSdCard
I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Definitely NOT "unified" there is a 2.8GB partition for installing the APP apk's into then there is the internal storage of 4.59 GB (which is most likely where the OP has the 1.5 GB free).
OP- go into your application manager under settings and look at the bottom for Device Memory, it should be x.x GB of 2.8 GB (on the 8 GB models) this is most likely the area that is low on storage, as I have added less the 100 MB of apps and I have 1.8 GB used of the 2.8 GB so I imagine if you install games and stuff it would fill up real quick.
I believe there is a thread about moving apps to the "SD card" (remember in android you have 2 "sdcards" first is labeled sdcard and is actually the internal storage and second is labeled extsdcard and is your removable microsd card if you use one).
Related threads you should read on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679037
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786014
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I think the Galaxy Tab memory structure is a unified "internal memory" area which is shared by both app installations and user data. There are no separate "app" and "user data" partitions, though there is of course a separate "system" partition.
Since App2SD works by moving files from the app partition to the data partition it has no relevant function on the Galaxy Tab.
I have no idea what causes the insufficient memory errors though. This is a common problem and the cause of much frustration for many users.
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Oh really? Well thanks for that info.. So that APP2SD app is for other types of devices?
At this point I can't re-download that Hill Climb game at all.. I've tried rebooting the device a few times now. Any other options left?
insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
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insufficient storage happened to me few times - how i fixed it: clear data and cache of Google Play Store and Google Services Framework
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How exactly do you do that?
Settings -> Apps -> scroll down till you find Google Play and Services Framework, tap on each and press clear data and cache
Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
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Okay so i had the exact same problem with the exact same game .. I had Lucky Patcher installed so i opened it and it apparently did something (sorry i m a noob at this).. it said removed some ODEX files or sumthing.. and i went to google play again and it updated just fine .. you could give it a try
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Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
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Yes.. lucky patcher is installed on mine as well. So that's gotta be it.
So you went into lucky patcher and choose the game (Hill Climb) and removed the ODEX files for it?
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That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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That odex file is how lucky patcher circumvents apps ads and copy protection. And yes if its there it wont let you reinstall.
Fyi Lucky Patcher isnt something id ask about around here. Its essentially an app for pirating and removing copy protection and here at xda we prefer to stay safe and legit.
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Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
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Ah well thanks I did not know that. I didn't even know what it does.. it was installed by a friend.
So how exactly do I undo this now? Run this ODEX remover thing within LuckyPatcher?
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If youve already uninstalled the app Lucky Patcher cant fix/remove it. You have to use a file manager and manually delete it from /data/app.
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So I have 16GB internal and a 64GB SD card. I noticed that when I go to apps and move an app to SD it doesn't move the apps data to SD. For example, Half-life is like 70ish MB but downloads 2GB of data. So when moved to SD it only moved the app 70MB to SD but 2GB of app data is still on internal storage. Is there any way to move the app data to SD as well?
I should point out I'm non-root android 5. I'd prefer not to root but if that's the only way I can I guess. I don't mind if it takes a paid app within reason but would prefer a free app if it takes an app. Thanks
I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?
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I don't know about Lollipop - haven't updated yet - and I don't know about HL2 - I don't have it - but on KitKat, for the GTA games at least, it doesn't say it's moving the data (in the app listing the amount of data on internal storage doesn't change) but when I look at the available internal storage, it does actually move most of the data. Sure that's not happening?
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Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks
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Rooted my Tablet. Found there are apps like Link2SD which can do this. However Link2SD wouldnt work for me. Followed directions and partioned/formatted card and started app, select format of 2nd partion (ext4) and reboot. After reboot app crashes and reopening prompts again. Couldnt resolve this. Any recommendations would be great. Thanks
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Use foldermount.
As stated above, foldermount works wonders, especially for a gaming tablet.
It will also fix the SD card write limits in KK and L (L has eased up, but apps need to be updated to use the new APIs, so many still can't use the SD card).
I have saved some 6 gigs with this from my internal. Now if I could get a bigger SD card. Haha.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
(Well worth buying pro).
Thanks everyone. Using folder mount and so far so good.
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First of all, sorry for my English. It is not my native language. :angel:
I'm having issues with my Redmi Note 7 Pro (rooted and running MIUI 10). I can't install any large apps from the Google Play Store or even APKs using other app stores like Qooapp or APKPure. The problem seems to pop up only when I try to install large games like Call of Duty Mobile, Vainglory, PUBG or Arena of Valor. I've been able to install other small apps and even games where the large file downloads occur INSIDE the game itself, like Dragalia Lost, Another Eden and Raid: Shadow Legends without any issues. It is only when I attempt to install a large game (usually +1gb) that I see this problem. Whenever I try installing through the Google Play Store, the download happens normally and then the installation fails silently when the download progress bar reaches 100%. And whenever I try using APKPure, for instance, I get a message saying "IO error. Not enough space available for instalation", even though I've got about 100gb of space left in my internal memory.
I've searched online and seen some people recommending clearing the cache memory of the Google Play Store app and Google Play Services, uninstalling any updates on the Google Play Store, rebooting my device, etc., since the problem could be caused by a lack of enough cache memory available to install the file, but these solutions didn't help me at all. I hope someone can help me troubleshoot and fix this issue
Thanks in advance! :good:
Was the available memory enough then?
Close any apps other than Play Store or APKPure while installing those game apps. Have a try.
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Was the available memory enough then?
Close any apps other than Play Store or APKPure while installing those game apps. Have a try.
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Thanks for the reply! Sorry, this solution didn't help either. I closed every app other than the Google Play Store and tried installing COD Mobile again. I got the same problem. The download goes up to 100% and then silently fails.
I don't know if this is relevant, but when I try installing through the Play Store, the download goes up to 100% and then fails showing a message that says "Waiting for Wi-Fi," even though I am downloading from my Wi-Fi connection already. When I tap the button to download anyway, it downloads again all the way up to 100% and then fails and gets stuck at 7%. This is very confusing
If I try installing through APKPure, it'll just show the same "Not enough space available" message.
Clear the cache + Clear the data of the
Google Play Store app,
Google Services Framework,
and Google Play Services.
James_Watson said:
Clear the cache + Clear the data of the
Google Play Store app,
Google Services Framework,
and Google Play Services.
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No, that didn't work either. I got the same result, the download goes all the way up to 100% ad then fails.
Any other ideas will be greatly appreciated.
SaltyMussel said:
No, that didn't work either. I got the same result, the download goes all the way up to 100% ad then fails.
Any other ideas will be greatly appreciated.
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Can you download & install any other smaller apps from the Google Play Store?
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Can you download & install any other smaller apps from the Google Play Store?
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Yes, any other small apps I've had no issues with (the Reddit and Amazon Shopping apps are a couple of examples).
And as mentioned, even games that show as a smaller-sized file on the Play Store but include a much larger download ingame (like Raid: Shadow Legends, which shows as 92mb on the Play Store but requires a 600~800mb download on startup) have worked without any issues. It's only the large apps that fail upon installation.
SaltyMussel said:
First of all, sorry for my English. It is not my native language. :angel:
I'm having issues with my Redmi Note 7 Pro (rooted and running MIUI 10). I can't install any large apps from the Google Play Store or even APKs using other app stores like Qooapp or APKPure. The problem seems to pop up only when I try to install large games like Call of Duty Mobile, Vainglory, PUBG or Arena of Valor. I've been able to install other small apps and even games where the large file downloads occur INSIDE the game itself, like Dragalia Lost, Another Eden and Raid: Shadow Legends without any issues. It is only when I attempt to install a large game (usually +1gb) that I see this problem. Whenever I try installing through the Google Play Store, the download happens normally and then the installation fails silently when the download progress bar reaches 100%. And whenever I try using APKPure, for instance, I get a message saying "IO error. Not enough space available for instalation", even though I've got about 100gb of space left in my internal memory.
I've searched online and seen some people recommending clearing the cache memory of the Google Play Store app and Google Play Services, uninstalling any updates on the Google Play Store, rebooting my device, etc., since the problem could be caused by a lack of enough cache memory available to install the file, but these solutions didn't help me at all. I hope someone can help me troubleshoot and fix this issue
Thanks in advance! :good:
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The large games are failing because the apps are downloaded in cache and then installed in your /data partition, not your internal storage.
It doesn't matter how much internal storage space you have, what matters is how much space your /data partition has, you don't have enough space in your /data partition to install the large apps, you also might not have enough space in your cache partition to properly download and install the apps.
The reason why the apps that download additional data inside the game are working like they should is because the apps themselves are installed in /data partition and they install just fine because you have enough space in /data partition. But the additional data that is downloaded inside the game does not install to the /data partition, it is installed/stored in your Android/data folder in your internal storage, you have plenty of internal storage so it installs without conflict.
One way to get the large apps to install is to delete some of the apps that you installed to clear some space in /data partition, if you clear enough space, you can install a large app with no issue.
Or, you can try repartitioning your device to increase the size of your /data partition.
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The large games are failing because the apps are downloaded in cache and then installed in your /data partition, not your internal storage.
It doesn't matter how much internal storage space you have, what matters is how much space your /data partition has, you don't have enough space in your /data partition to install the large apps, you also might not have enough space in your cache partition to properly download and install the apps.
The reason why the apps that download additional data inside the game are working like they should is because the apps themselves are installed in /data partition and they install just fine because you have enough space in /data partition. But the additional data that is downloaded inside the game does not install to the /data partition, it is installed/stored in your Android/data folder in your internal storage, you have plenty of internal storage so it installs without conflict.
One way to get the large apps to install is to delete some of the apps that you installed to clear some space in /data partition, if you clear enough space, you can install a large app with no issue.
Or, you can try repartitioning your device to increase the size of your /data partition.
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Thanks for the reply. I tried deleting a bunch of apps and ended up getting rid of about 2gb worth of data. Unfortunately, that still didn't do the trick I could delete some more, but those are apps I'd actually like to keep.
Do you know how this repartitioning process works? Is it complicated to do? I'm a little bit scared of messing with the flash memory of the phone, it was actually a (more knowledgeable) friend of mine who rooted the phone for me. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
Edit: I started looking a little bit into this and I read somewhere that perhaps getting an SD card and moving the data of some other apps from the data partition to the SD card partition might release enough space for the large apps to install without issues. Does this sound at all feasible? That would free me from having to mess with things that could potentially brick my phone.
SaltyMussel said:
Thanks for the reply. I tried deleting a bunch of apps and ended up getting rid of about 2gb worth of data. Unfortunately, that still didn't do the trick I could delete some more, but those are apps I'd actually like to keep.
Do you know how this repartitioning process works? Is it complicated to do? I'm a little bit scared of messing with the flash memory of the phone, it was actually a (more knowledgeable) friend of mine who rooted the phone for me. Any guidance will be greatly appreciated.
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I believe the Magisk framework has a module that can do that for you, I'm not familiar with how it used though.
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I believe the Magisk framework has a module that can do that for you, I'm not familiar with how it used though.
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I haven't been able to find anything about a Magisk module that would help me do that. I'll keep looking though. Also, any clue if the SD card idea I mentioned earlier would be a fix at all? Or that isn't really how this works?
SaltyMussel said:
I haven't been able to find anything about a Magisk module that would help me do that. I'll keep looking though. Also, any clue if the SD card idea I mentioned earlier would be a fix at all? Or that isn't really how this works?
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Actually, it is possible to install your apps directly to external sdcard, the drawback to that is you sacrifice a bit of performance because running apps from external is slower than if the app was internally installed.
Another possible option is to use the Adoptable Storage option, it is designed to format your external memory as internal memory so that the device sees internal and external as one continuous "drive", so to speak. I wouldn't recommend using Adoptable Storage though because if the external sdcard gets corrupted it results in a non-working device that has to be recovered and you'll most likely lose your saved data.
Finding a mod that allows installing your apps to external is the better, safer option. It might be a bit slower than installing to internal, but it's easier to fix issues if something goes wrong.
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Actually, it is possible to install your apps directly to external sdcard, the drawback to that is you sacrifice a bit of performance because running apps from external is slower than if the app was internally installed.
Another possible option is to use the Adoptable Storage option, it is designed to format your external memory as internal memory so that the device sees internal and external as one continuous "drive", so to speak. I wouldn't recommend using Adoptable Storage though because if the external sdcard gets corrupted it results in a non-working device that has to be recovered and you'll most likely lose your saved data.
Finding a mod that allows installing your apps to external is the better, safer option. It might be a bit slower than installing to internal, but it's easier to fix issues if something goes wrong.
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Thanks a lot for the guidance. I'll look more into both the SD memory option and the repartitioning option and I'll post another message once I find the solution (hopefully soon). Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder what could've caused this. Is this a problem that all devices have? Or could it be linked to the rooting process?
Regardless, thanks again for the help.
SaltyMussel said:
Thanks a lot for the guidance. I'll look more into both the SD memory option and the repartitioning option and I'll post another message once I find the solution (hopefully soon). Nonetheless, I can't help but wonder what could've caused this. Is this a problem that all devices have? Or could it be linked to the rooting process?
Regardless, thanks again for the help.
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I can't say for certain, things are different from one device to the next, you never know what kind of bugs are gonna happen.
Android is inconsistent, you could have different devices experiencing the same issue but they may not have the same cause. There can also be an issue that has a known solution on "this" device or "this" android version but the same solution doesn't work on "that" device or "that" android version. As they say, your mileage may vary.
Try asking in your device specific forum if there is one here for your device, or, try asking in another thread for this device that deals with rooting or a thread that deals with a similar issue to yours. You may get better answers from members that own the same device or members that have experienced the same issue.
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